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[Q] Do I really need CM10.1?

I just bought a Nook HD+ today because of the great sale B&N is having. Once I heard that it had a microSD expansion slot AND the latest B&N operating system included the Google Play store and Google apps, I was in.
Of course, the big drawback is B&N's tweaked user interface. I used it for a few minutes and thought: "Ugh. I guess I should go look up how to flash CyanogenMod 10.1 on this puppy."
But then I thought, wait a sec... with the Google Play store, I can download my favorite launcher (Go Launcher EX) and make this thing behave like my other tablets without flashing anything!!!
So, compared to using the B&N OS and a custom launcher, what would be the advantages of loading CM10.1 on it?

You could always follow the procedure to backup your stock install and give CM a test run to see how you would like it. If it turns out you don't, flash back your stock installation.

Or install an sd version of cm10.1 which would only work if the sd card was inserted. Then if you didn't like cm10.1 then you could take the sd out and the default nook os would be fine.
Personally I think cm10.1 is miles better. It is nicer looking and is so much less restrictive.
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30%-40% better Web browsing performance based on HTML5 benchmark. Overall better performance and less lag.

stumark said:
Or install an sd version of cm10.1 which would only work if the sd card was inserted. Then if you didn't like cm10.1 then you could take the sd out and the default nook os would be fine.
Personally I think cm10.1 is miles better. It is nicer looking and is so much less restrictive.
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The only issue with this being you can't get a good idea of the performance, where as if you actually installed it on the Nook you can. Granted for the faint of heart the SD install would be your best bet.

Performance is still good on sd. I haven't noticed that much improvement on emmc but I don't do much browsing. I can't see many people screaming about the benefits of keeping the stock ROM.
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It's kinda funny. I only lasted 3 days on the stock ROM, even with GO Launcher EX. I just couldn't resist the CM10.1 allure.
I have to say that this was the easiest switch over from a stock ROM to an aftermarket ROM that I've ever done, and that includes a bunch of devices: Samsung Galaxy Tab, Galaxy Tab 7.7, Dell Streak 7, HTC Thunderbolt, HTC Droid Eris, and Motorola RAZR MAXX.
I wish they were all that easy to switch over. The RAZR MAXX was a b!tch.
Big kudos to verygreen, leapinlar and anyone else I've missed for a great experience and great ROM.

I first got it and tried just running NOVA Launcher.. but it's MUCH better running CM10.1... I did the internal way of modding it.. It was very easy.. basically make an SD boot card, put about 4 files to flash (GAPPS, SuperUser, CWM or TWRP, and CM10.1) - boom, done.. I got one for myself, my brother got one, and my girlfriend. Once the SD card was made (use a SanDisk, I had trouble with Patriot) it only took about 5 minutes to do.
EDIT: Oh yeah, it seems very stable, my girlfriend had a random reboot 2 nights in a row, and started freaking out. I told her it was fine.

Dual boot sd card
Definitely go with the hybrid sd card from bokbokan. It gives you Cyanoboot, so you can easily go back and forth between stock and CM10.1. Does not mess with your stock install, so if you don't like CM10.1 all you would really have to do is take out your sd card or reformat it.
To tell you the truth though, I booted CM10.1 for the first time about 10 days ago, and I haven't been in the stock ROM for about 9 days now. If you want a B&N Tablet, stick with stock. If you want an Android Tablet, go with CM10.1. Nova Launcher puts the icing on the cake.

Best "light" reliable ROM for the NOOK HD+?

Alright so I know there are many many topics on custom roms for the Nook HD+.
Some of the instructions for installing the rom seems so complicated. Is there any step by step guides to follow or youtube videos on how to install it on to the Nook HD+?
Thanks in advance!!!

Follow emote's instructions in the first post of this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500
Sent from my HD+ Running CM 10.1 from emmc

#1 - REGISTER your Nook with B&N, BEFORE you remove the old software.
Well, there's this "Dummies" guide for EMMC that will COMPLETELY remove the Stock B&N software, then there's the "Hybrid/SD Card" method , that will keep the B&N stock and add a dual boot option with CM 10.1.
CyanogenMod 10.1 is based on Gogle's Jelly Bean OS for mobile devices, modified to run on a number of devices, including our Nook HD/HD+.
I'm using the Nightly CM 10.1, and it runs better than the stock software, there are other ROM available, but I've never tried them so I can't offer any opinion on them.
Following the Dummies guide by e.mote, is simple and straight forward, read the instructions, then read them again, download the required tools and software and you'll be running CM10.1 in a few minutes.
Good Luck, and enjoy your improved tablet!

Which ovation emmc do I download there are so many?!
And also which NookHDplus-bootable-CWM?
I am so confused, there are so many to download I am not even sure I even have the right files or not.

Mitsuya Cider said:
Which ovation emmc do I download there are so many?!
And also which NookHDplus-bootable-CWM?
I am so confused, there are so many to download I am not even sure I even have the right files or not.
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The "Dummies Guide" thread has a step by step guide with the files listed, and the tools needed to use them. You will almost always want the latest files, except for the ones labeled "Experimental" - those are often for the people who WANT to test and understand they MIGHT cause crashes and have major bugs.
e.mote did an awesome job of organizing the steps and files needed, I would not be able to provide and better or easier guide.
The file names are above the links, look for the files of the same name.
EMMC - NIGHTLY is 20130812, these are built every night, hence the name. I'm using the first official nightly without any problems - 20130809.
CWM - NookHDplus-bootable-CWM-6028-for-stock-4GB-rev4-(05.15.13).zip - is the file you want.
Hope this helps a little.

I use Carbon (b11). the only rom I installed. Works like a charm. No problems.

wktra said:
I use Carbon (b11). the only rom I installed. Works like a charm. No problems.
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I have to second this Carbon works great. I do also have a boot-able CM10.1 SD card just so I can mix things up but I spend 95% of my time in Carbon.

Is the emmc faster than sd?
dagem said:
#1 - REGISTER your Nook with B&N, BEFORE you remove the old software.
Well, there's this "Dummies" guide for EMMC that will COMPLETELY remove the Stock B&N software, then there's the "Hybrid/SD Card" method , that will keep the B&N stock and add a dual boot option with CM 10.1.
CyanogenMod 10.1 is based on Gogle's Jelly Bean OS for mobile devices, modified to run on a number of devices, including our Nook HD/HD+.
I'm using the Nightly CM 10.1, and it runs better than the stock software, there are other ROM available, but I've never tried them so I can't offer any opinion on them.
Following the Dummies guide by e.mote, is simple and straight forward, read the instructions, then read them again, download the required tools and software and you'll be running CM10.1 in a few minutes.
Good Luck, and enjoy your improved tablet!
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Is installing CM10.1 on the emmc faster than sd?
I have an sd bootable cm10.1 is use now and it lags about the speed of a 2010 phone.
I also haven't updated since may, but its just so slow that nobody in my family can bear its "laggyness"

QuatroQuatro said:
Is installing CM10.1 on the emmc faster than sd?
I have an sd bootable cm10.1 is use now and it lags about the speed of a 2010 phone.
I also haven't updated since may, but its just so slow that nobody in my family can bear its "laggyness"
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Depends on the SD you are using. It can be faster. And that ROM is old so a newer one could be faster.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

QuatroQuatro said:
Is installing CM10.1 on the emmc faster than sd?
I have an sd bootable cm10.1 is use now and it lags about the speed of a 2010 phone.
I also haven't updated since may, but its just so slow that nobody in my family can bear its "laggyness"
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I've only used the EMMC method, it seemed to be the easiest way, since I didn't care for the B&N software. I can't tell much (if any) of a speed difference from 20130711 Unofficial, to the 20130809 Nightly I'm using now, but I doubt there have been THAT many changes that would boost or slow speed in that time frame.
I've also NEVER felt like it was lagging or slow, but this is my first tablet and I didn't expect it to run like my Asus Intel I5 laptop, it does boot much faster however.

I'm using a SanDisk class4 16gb with not to many apps installed. Does everybody's hd+ running CM emmc work like it was a nexus 7?
This lag just makes turning on a computer faster to browse with
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QuatroQuatro said:
I'm using a SanDisk class4 16gb with not to many apps installed. Does everybody's hd+ running CM emmc work like it was a nexus 7?
This lag just makes turning on a computer faster to browse with
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I don't surf much on my Nook the 1920x1200 @ 9" is too tough on my eyes and I've got a ssd in my desktop so it boots fast enough to look something up quick.
It will however stream a 1080 HD movie from my PC without stuttering, I watched Lucky Number Sleven the other day without a glitch. It plays PVZ, Cut the Rope (too many to count), Angry Birds (too many to count), etc, etc.. for me it's a movie player with light gaming machine. I can surf Reddit with Reddit News Free without lag, so it's also a "toilet reader" kinda thing too.
Maybe my expectations were lower since it was my first tablet, and I only watch movies and play light games. that it feel so nice. I really didn't expect to be blown away by it's abilities, and was more than pleasantly surprised. I'm actually thinking of grabbing a second one since my wife and/or daughter always seems to be on it.

QuatroQuatro said:
I'm using a SanDisk class4 16gb with not to many apps installed. Does everybody's hd+ running CM emmc work like it was a nexus 7?
This lag just makes turning on a computer faster to browse with
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I don't have a Nexus 7 to compare against, but my wife has a Galaxy Tab 10.1 (rooted, running JB from December 2012). The Nook HD+ running CM10.1 (verygreen's build from late July on EMMC) is a better experience. I use her tablet occasionally, and things just aren't as snappy. Plus it doesn't have a micro-sd card to expand storage.
The HD+ has noticeable higher resolution and loads apps faster. Also, for some reason, the RedFin (real estate) app on her Tab will come to a halt after about 15 minutes of use (pictures stop loading, gets the spinning circle). Need to kill the app and restart. On the HD+, it appears to run indefinitely.
I never ran a CM10.1 build on the sd card so I can't comment of the difference in performance.
Hope this helps...

I'm a newbie to the rooting community. Since CM officially started supporting HD+ and has been releasing "nightly" versions, which, as someone earlier stated are literally nightly releases, does it mean the current 2013-08-14 release is not the final one and we can expect more in the coming days?
Also, do the new releases mean more stablitity or fixed glitches? If so, by when can we expect a stable and reliable ROM from CM?

tweeked xperia rom for nook hd+
I have just changed from cm11 to the tweeked xperia Carbon rom . What a difference no fc apps it is extremely smooth and a pleasure to use. Highly recommended.

I use cm11 nightly and just manually strip the heck out of it using an app remover as well as change some folder permissions to disable any logging
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I'm a newbie to the rooting community. Since CM officially started supporting HD+ and has been releasing "nightly" versions, which, as someone earlier stated are literally nightly releases, does it mean the current 2013-08-14 release is not the final one and we can expect more in the coming days?
Also, do the new releases mean more stablitity or fixed glitches? If so, by when can we expect a stable and reliable ROM from CM?
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This is a quote from a cm forum admin, he explains by tter than I ever could,
"Stable is after all the features desired by the CM devs have been put in and the code has been tested. Snapshots (M builds) are builds done roughly once a month that has had some testing to make sure things are mostly working and released to the public. These are the first builds that allow official bug reports on the project manager site, https://jira.cyanogenmod.org. Nightlies are automated builds that are built, well, every night. There is no human interaction with these and they are largely there just to see if the code added throughout the day will compile. As far as the devs are concerned, there are no bad builds with the nightlies, because if it doesn't build, that is news to let them know that something is screwed up in the code. They don't accept any bug reports on these builds.
Generally, the nightly builds, while extremely experimental and considered bleeding-edge, tend to be relatively stable and mostly bug-free. Many people use the nightlies as their so-called daily-driver, meaning that any bugs that they may have aren't so severe that they want to switch to a different version. For my Nexus 4, as soon as I got it I switched to a nightly build and haven't had any bugs pop up.
Also, all builds are full builds, so if you switch to a nightly, you aren't required to flash every single nightly. You can do it as you see fit. I've been known sometimes to flash a build every day, but then I've gone a month in between updating. Just grab the latest version you want to flash and flash that one. "

[Q] Leave Well Enough Alone (Finally)???

At the risk of sounding a touch naive, I feel compelled to ask the following.
Having owned an original 7 inch Nook that I fully converted to 4.1 and now the very satisfied owner of an HD+ that I fully converted to 4.2.2 some time ago, is there any "real world" advantage to moving up to 4.4 with the following considerations:
1. Under a fully transformed eMMc 4.2.2, I am experiencing no operational problems or issues.
2. My primary use for the HD+ is reading using both the Nook and Kindle apps, occasionally watching movies using the MX Player app, using a small handful of other apps primarily for current events and weather, email, and using the larger screen to view digital photos taken on my trips.
Under 4.2.2, it handles all of the above with few, if any, real hiccups.
If my actual day-to-day usage remains as above, will 4.4 really offer any substantive changes?
With that said, have I finally arrived at the "leave well enough alone" time in my ongoing transformations and updates?
Thanks in advance for any relevant comments and/or advice.

I'm just going to assume you are talking about CM10.1 (4.2) and CM11 (4.4).
CM11 is still a Nightly, so i would not recommend it as you want to use your HD+ for normal activities and not to experiment with.
To me, CM10.2 (4.3) ist the most stable version, but if you don't encounter any problem with 10.1, then there is no real need to upgrade IMO.

If everything is working I would let it ride. If you do decide to move forward make a backup so you can go back.

I'm in kind of the same boat. I've been using the Xperia tweaked Carbon ROM which is 4.2.2 and have yet to see a real compelling reason to move from it. My desire to constantly flash something and try new roms is outweighed by my desire to have a stable, useful device.
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Thanks.
"My desire to constantly flash something and try new roms is outweighed by my desire to have a stable, useful device." Could not have phrased it better myself. Have definitely reached the point where experimenting, rooting, fully transforming, etc. no longer works as its own stimulant in the face of a very stable, reliable, eMMc conversion that works the way I (currently) need it to. Now if Amazon would bring out an 8.9 inch version of the DX that I have with a touchscreen and back light...hmm!

I started with various CM11 nightly builds, then "downgraded" to CM10.2 and now am happier. Various apps I had problems with are now working. I miss a few minor things like no transparent status bar and soft buttons not hiding in some apps, but I prefer the stability. I may try CM11 later at some point.

Hmm... Your mileage may vary...
I have been upgrading my Nook HD+ steadily until verygreen's 1/18 build of CM11. I have installed the pa_gapps-modular-full-4.4.2-20140111-signed gapps package. I have access to just about everything I need on the Google Play store, Amazon Store, 1mobile store. It is solid. Doesn't reboot without reason. And except for a couple of non-standard apps, everything runs smooth and good. I couldn't be happier with this version of KitKat and I like it a lot better than JellyBean, and my battery life is very good, even when running intensive games or using WiFi heavily.
Is there a real reason to upgrade? That is a personal preference. I would say yes, as my experience has been so good. Even the upgrade process was fairly painless using verygreen's instructions. Just had to load a new CWM, reboot into it and flash the new rom and gapps and I was on my way. Fair to say, I haven't been upgrading to every new nightly that comes out. Viewing the changelogs, I don't see any obvious reason to do so, and so I am waiting for any changes that verygreen deems necessary to flash.
That's my two-pence worth of opinion. I hope that helps alleviate any fears you might have for upgrading.

Thanks to all for your replies and comments. Looks like I will stay put with 10.1/4.2.2 for the time being as all is "really" well!

Nook HD+ user experience compared to more recent devices?

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I'm trying to figure out if I should keep this tablet (it's on the way), because I don't know if I can deal with any (extreme or consistent) lagginess after having newer devices. Are you able to go from flagships like snapdragon 8xx's or ipads to this device without getting annoyed with its performance? I decided on getting this because it is certainly the best 9 in tablet for the money. I've had many 7-8in tablets with very good specs, but no larger tablets like this, and I cannot afford to spend that much.
Also, I'd appreciate if someone could make a youtube video with a good version of lollipop running on it to demonstrate how it performs. I know there are videos on older CM version, but there are none with lollipop.

Let's put it this way, the nook is not a galaxy tab s... and never will be.
Those that expect tab s performance will be disappointed...
That said, I think we're finally getting some, more or less, stable ROMs.
At this point the nook is considered to be dated technology.
I expect to upgrade to something better in a year or two myself.
Though I do still love my nook.

I installed 10.2.1, and my browser crashes constantly. I am going to try some other ROMS, but this device can be VERY frustrating for web browsing.
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edit: with custom roms of course
I'm trying to figure out if I should keep this tablet (it's on the way), because I don't know if I can deal with any (extreme or consistent) lagginess after having newer devices. Are you able to go from flagships like snapdragon 8xx's or ipads to this device without getting annoyed with its performance? I decided on getting this because it is certainly the best 9 in tablet for the money. I've had many 7-8in tablets with very good specs, but no larger tablets like this, and I cannot afford to spend that much.
Also, I'd appreciate if someone could make a youtube video with a good version of lollipop running on it to demonstrate how it performs. I know there are videos on older CM version, but there are none with lollipop.
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I installed Jon's latest kernel and was pretty impressed. However, between the low memory and slow cpu, it's too hard downgrading for the sake of a 9 inch screen. I currently have a Lenovo s8-50 and it wasn't too much more than this refurbished Nook at $150. If I ended up buying this a couple years ago, I'd probably be satisfied with how far it's come.
woneil said:
I installed 10.2.1, and my browser crashes constantly. I am going to try some other ROMS, but this device can be VERY frustrating for web browsing.
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You should try Jon's yellow kernel. Chrome was working quite well for me.

lolwatpear said:
I installed Jon's latest kernel and was pretty impressed. However, between the low memory and slow cpu, it's too hard downgrading for the sake of a 9 inch screen. I currently have a Lenovo s8-50 and it wasn't too much more than this refurbished Nook at $150. If I ended up buying this a couple years ago, I'd probably be satisfied with how far its come.
You should try Jon's yellow kernel. Chrome was working quite well for me.
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I just installed CM11, and am testing it for my needs right now.

I installed a CM11 nightly. Still having occasional browser crashes and lagginess of back and N buttons. I did not install java or flash as suggested by kokercy, and that seems to improve browser stability. Desdpite its problems, CM11 still seems better than stock, to me.

I have a stock HD+ and have been considering trying the CM 11 rom. After reading some posts, it seems like it might be better to just stick with the stock rom. If anyone has any advice in this regard, I'd really appreciate it.

m4p said:
I have a stock HD+ and have been considering trying the CM 11 rom. After reading some posts, it seems like it might be better to just stick with the stock rom. If anyone has any advice in this regard, I'd really appreciate it.
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I endured frequent browser crashes on CM11, but CM12 has been more stable, surprising to say. Not 100% bug-free, but certainly less aggravating.

m4p said:
I have a stock HD+ and have been considering trying the CM 11 rom. After reading some posts, it seems like it might be better to just stick with the stock rom. If anyone has any advice in this regard, I'd really appreciate it.
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I highly recommend flashing CM 11 or 12. Compared to stock, it is miles ahead imo. You get a fully open android tablet, fully customizable, no BN bloatware that you will never use. I could go on but I have noticed a significant improvement in speed and battery life plus I have always been a fan of open, customizable software.

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I highly recommend flashing CM 11 or 12. Compared to stock, it is miles ahead imo. You get a fully open android tablet, fully customizable, no BN bloatware that you will never use. I could go on but I have noticed a significant improvement in speed and battery life plus I have always been a fan of open, customizable software.
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Thanks very much for the reply. The battery life on mine is terrible, so if battery life could be improved, sounds like flashing is in order. I have another question, I've read through the threads on SD cards and what is best, but those threads are now sort of old. So just wondering for this tablet, any input on which would work better, Class 4 or Class 10?

m4p said:
Thanks very much for the reply. The battery life on mine is terrible, so if battery life could be improved, sounds like flashing is in order. I have another question, I've read through the threads on SD cards and what is best, but those threads are now sort of old. So just wondering for this tablet, any input on which would work better, Class 4 or Class 10?
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The class of the card only matters if you want to run the ROM from the SD. That is not done much anymore, most run the ROM on internal memory. If that is the case and you only use the SD for media files, class does not matter. However, if you do want to run the ROM from SD, class 4 is still better.
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The class of the card only matters if you want to run the ROM from the SD. That is not done much anymore, most run the ROM on internal memory. If that is the case and you only use the SD for media files, class does not matter. However, if you do want to run the ROM from SD, class 4 is still better.
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Class 4 has been better in my experience. Getting the nook hd+ to boot from the SD card to install recovery worked better at least.

leapinlar said:
The class of the card only matters if you want to run the ROM from the SD. That is not done much anymore, most run the ROM on internal memory. If that is the case and you only use the SD for media files, class does not matter. However, if you do want to run the ROM from SD, class 4 is still better.
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Thanks, Leapinlar, much appreciated. I'm going to flash it so it runs off the internal memory and then use the SD for media files. I have a Sandisk 32gb 10 class card in there now using for storage.

Best install for HD+ 4.3 too many versions for dummy

trying to install 4.3 or higher so new health watch will work. There is so many versions I am confused (which is easy to do) what IS CM 10.2 ? is this the version I need or do I need to use something else and what is the best version of Roms to use. I hope this is not too confusing if so it is because I am confused. Would some one please help me out.
cutting to the chase:
I need 4.3 or higher on my nook HD+.
Thanks

Retired
New age electronics a little fuzzy for me. The install for dummies has the cm11 file site closed.
Is there a newbie install guide for the most stable rom install ? Sorry if my terminology is incorrect. I would like to use a site that has all of the parts needed listed and can be down loaded. I need at least 4.3 or higher. As you can tell I am very new at this and would appreciate any help.
From reading yesterday it looks like cm 10.1.3 is the most stable or is there anew one on the scene.
Careful one

carefulone said:
New age electronics a little fuzzy for me. The install for dummies has the cm11 file site closed.
Is there a newbie install guide for the most stable rom install ? Sorry if my terminology is incorrect. I would like to use a site that has all of the parts needed listed and can be down loaded. I need at least 4.3 or higher. As you can tell I am very new at this and would appreciate any help.
From reading yesterday it looks like cm 10.1.3 is the most stable or is there anew one on the scene.
Careful one
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I still think cm10.1.3 is best.
What do you mean the install for dummies has cm11 file site closed? Do you mean my install for dummies thread? The links there still work.
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I see that you still prefer 10.1.3, leapinlar, just curious as to why. I mean I ask because I know 4.4 brings things that should be useful especially TRIM for our older NHD hardware which it should certainly benefit from. I just got an 8GB NHD (I have a 32GB microSD for expansion as well) from a pawn shop several hours ago for $10 (had 2.1 on it, then upgraded to 2.2.1 and it seems to work fine overall) and it's got no issues. My Wife and I communicate using YIM (Yahoo Instant Messenger) and that won't work on the NHD (it's a Yahoo issue, not the NHD) so we're migrating over to using Hangouts which is fine as well.
But now that we have two NHDs I can goof off with mine. She's had one for a few years that I get to play with on occasion, I put CM11 on it a long time ago and it's been fine but tonight I made a backup of mine after a complete de-registration (from the previous owner) so it was clean as a whistle, then I simply restored that backup to hers so now we have to "almost" factory-fresh 2.2.1 NHDs to work with.
I remember when we first got the NHD back in late 2013 the stock software was crap and laggy which is why I pushed CM on it as soon as I could (CM10, then later on CM11). Obviously I want to eek out the best performance I can from this device even in spite of the age so, again, I'm curious to why you prefer 10.1.3 - I'm at a point right now where I'd like to install a custom ROM since I can do more experimentation with my NHD that I just got for $10 than the Wife's, so I'm just "on the market" one could say to see what the options are.
I can't tolerate Lollipop so I won't be going anywhere near Android 5.x or CM12 for any reason; I prefer Android 4.4.x at this point but even after all this time CM still doesn't have a stable CM11 build and at this point I doubt it'll ever happen so, since 10.1.3 appears as a stable option I'm considering it.
I'm guessing you run your 10.1.3 from the eMMC and not SD card, but I don't think I've ever seen you say which way you do things. And just to ask: any issues on your NHD with 10.1.3 that you'd care to mention, anything at all? Everything runs smooth and great, etc? Do you use a custom kernel with any tweaks/governors/etc? If you can answer here, awesome, if not that's fine, perhaps the info is someplace buried in another thread which I need to look for.
You've got vastly more experience with the NHD than I do and your guides and your assistance with these devices (and the Nook Color and Tablet as well) are invaluable resources here so thanks for your continuing efforts.
I'm just looking to get the best performance/battery life/etc from this Nook HD, like most anyone I suppose, so any suggestions are very welcome, indeed.

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I see that you still prefer 10.1.3, leapinlar, just curious as to why. I mean I ask because I know 4.4 brings things that should be useful especially TRIM for our older NHD hardware which it should certainly benefit from. I just got an 8GB NHD (I have a 32GB microSD for expansion as well) from a pawn shop several hours ago for $10 (had 2.1 on it, then upgraded to 2.2.1 and it seems to work fine overall) and it's got no issues. My Wife and I communicate using YIM (Yahoo Instant Messenger) and that won't work on the NHD (it's a Yahoo issue, not the NHD) so we're migrating over to using Hangouts which is fine as well.
But now that we have two NHDs I can goof off with mine. She's had one for a few years that I get to play with on occasion, I put CM11 on it a long time ago and it's been fine but tonight I made a backup of mine after a complete de-registration (from the previous owner) so it was clean as a whistle, then I simply restored that backup to hers so now we have to "almost" factory-fresh 2.2.1 NHDs to work with.
I remember when we first got the NHD back in late 2013 the stock software was crap and laggy which is why I pushed CM on it as soon as I could (CM10, then later on CM11). Obviously I want to eek out the best performance I can from this device even in spite of the age so, again, I'm curious to why you prefer 10.1.3 - I'm at a point right now where I'd like to install a custom ROM since I can do more experimentation with my NHD that I just got for $10 than the Wife's, so I'm just "on the market" one could say to see what the options are.
I can't tolerate Lollipop so I won't be going anywhere near Android 5.x or CM12 for any reason; I prefer Android 4.4.x at this point but even after all this time CM still doesn't have a stable CM11 build and at this point I doubt it'll ever happen so, since 10.1.3 appears as a stable option I'm considering it.
I'm guessing you run your 10.1.3 from the eMMC and not SD card, but I don't think I've ever seen you say which way you do things. And just to ask: any issues on your NHD with 10.1.3 that you'd care to mention, anything at all? Everything runs smooth and great, etc? Do you use a custom kernel with any tweaks/governors/etc? If you can answer here, awesome, if not that's fine, perhaps the info is someplace buried in another thread which I need to look for.
You've got vastly more experience with the NHD than I do and your guides and your assistance with these devices (and the Nook Color and Tablet as well) are invaluable resources here so thanks for your continuing efforts.
I'm just looking to get the best performance/battery life/etc from this Nook HD, like most anyone I suppose, so any suggestions are very welcome, indeed.
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I prefer 10.1.3 because I have never had one issue with it. I tried 10.2 while it was still in nightlies and had issues so moved back. Now that 10.2.1 is stable it may be ok. I tried Jon Lee's 10.2 with the tweaked kernel and found it unstable.
And I do run from emmc, but have run from SD with no issues using a good SD.
I recommend against 11 for the HD+ for the very reason you tout it, TRIM. I have seen a lot of HD+ get bricked by TRIM even though the kernel is supposed to be fixed to prevent that. It is just certain models of HD+, others seem safe. I have not heard of any HD's getting bricked though.
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Just tried CM11 (the 8-13 Nightly) and was somewhat disappointed in some aspects; I have a bunch of content on the Google Play Movies & TV side of things and that app won't play any videos at all on CM11, not sure what the issue is and I'm not interested in bothering with it so I'm rolling back to pure stock 2.2.1 for the time being.
I most likely will give 10.1.3 a shot, it can't hurt I suppose and I figure it'll be pretty snappy all around.
Any idea if there are any custom kernels that might function on that (meaning 10.1.3) to allow for more options for tweaking things (governors and I/O, etc)? I'll do more research but for now as stated I'll stick with pure stock since it seems to work ok.
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br0adband said:
Just tried CM11 (the 8-13 Nightly) and was somewhat disappointed in some aspects; I have a bunch of content on the Google Play Movies & TV side of things and that app won't play any videos at all on CM11, not sure what the issue is and I'm not interested in bothering with it so I'm rolling back to pure stock 2.2.1 for the time being.
I most likely will give 10.1.3 a shot, it can't hurt I suppose and I figure it'll be pretty snappy all around.
Any idea if there are any custom kernels that might function on that (meaning 10.1.3) to allow for more options for tweaking things (governors and I/O, etc)? I'll do more research but for now as stated I'll stick with pure stock since it seems to work ok.
Thanks for the response...
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Yes, I think the yellow kernel by Jon Lee has a 10.1.3 version. But I found it unstable.
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I also need to know which ROM is best for 4.3+. I have an android wear watch I need to pair. Should I use cm 10.2 or 11? Which ROM of the better cm should I use? Much obliged for your help and assistance.

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