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[Q] Nook HD+ best rom for me, help!

I'm new to this but I understand the root & flash process.
I just need some help selecting & locating a rom for my nook hd.
I don't like the Barnes & noble os as it seems a little laggy.
Therefore I'd like to replace if with a proper android rom but I get confused with what the difference between stock & cm10 is.
I just want a stable android rom that's fast for browsing & will play netflix well.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks

Stock ROM is the default Barnes & Noble operating system, the one you're using now. The term "stock" is used to describe this ROM, as it's the default ROM that comes installed with the Nook.
There are other ROMs available, so that you can customise your Nook. The one I would recommend, so that you can comfortably just use Android on a daily basis without worrying about anything else is CyanogenMod 10.1.3 (stable). This is a stable ROM, and ready for daily use without worrying about anything else. That's CyanogenMod (CM) 10.1.3. Do NOT install CyanogenMod 10.2, as this is a nightly version and not ready for daily use. You can install CM10.2 if you desire, but don't expect it to be perfect; there may be few issues and problems here and there.
Installing CyanogenMod 10.1.3 runs Android version 4.2.2, so that's Jelly Bean. CM10.2 runs Android 4.3 (however, this isn't stable yet). Here's a beginners guide to installing CyanogenMod for your Nook: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500
All the best, if you require any assistance, feel free to reply back.

For what it's worth, performance on my Nook HD+ with CyanogenMod 10.1.3 is absolute garbage. 10x worse than stock B&N ROM, everything lags to hell and back. Even scrolling the damn app menu lags, and I'm constantly seeing "<Insert App Name Here> isn't responding. Do you want to close it?" Everything, even the system idle process. I don't know what to advise as there seems to be no general consensus as to what's the best ROM, everything's under development, the only ROM listed under Original Android Development (which I'm hoping is as close as possible to stock) doesn't work.

rpop said:
For what it's worth, performance on my Nook HD+ with CyanogenMod 10.1.3 is absolute garbage. 10x worse than stock B&N ROM, everything lags to hell and back. Even scrolling the damn app menu lags, and I'm constantly seeing "<Insert App Name Here> isn't responding. Do you want to close it?" Everything, even the system idle process. I don't know what to advise as there seems to be no general consensus as to what's the best ROM, everything's under development, the only ROM listed under Original Android Development (which I'm hoping is as close as possible to stock) doesn't work.
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My experience wasn't like that at all. While I wouldn't say it was blistering, it did seem on par or better than the Stock ROM. swiping was just a smidge laggy using Nova Prime.
I went on to Carbon and while it has a very nice feature set, it seems a good bit LAGGIER than the previous ROMs. I've been told that SlimBean runs nicely though, so I'm going to play with Carbon a little more but likely go on to that one when I decide to flash again.

I should expand a bit on my experience.
Performance was great the first half day, very speedy, better than stock ROM. By the end of the day it got a little slower than stock, a day or two later it was already pretty bad, noticeably slower, a week later absolutely terrible. It's as if performance degrades with time. I've tried reflashing it and now it sucks from the very beginning. If you find yourself trying CyanogenMod 10.1.3 stable and it still works great a week later, let me know--maybe I need to send mine in for a warranty swap.

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I should expand a bit on my experience.
Performance was great the first half day, very speedy, better than stock ROM. By the end of the day it got a little slower than stock, a day or two later it was already pretty bad, noticeably slower, a week later absolutely terrible. It's as if performance degrades with time. I've tried reflashing it and now it sucks from the very beginning. If you find yourself trying CyanogenMod 10.1.3 stable and it still works great a week later, let me know--maybe I need to send mine in for a warranty swap.
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Hi, I have been running 10.2 nightly for awhile now and have my tablet running several hours a day surfing Web, watching movies, reading, etc. and I have not had any of the lag or slowdown that you mention. I have had no random reboots or any trouble, I think it performs better than stock rom.
I am very happy with this setup.
So I hope this helps you some.
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rpop said:
I should expand a bit on my experience.
Performance was great the first half day, very speedy, better than stock ROM. By the end of the day it got a little slower than stock, a day or two later it was already pretty bad, noticeably slower, a week later absolutely terrible. It's as if performance degrades with time. I've tried reflashing it and now it sucks from the very beginning. If you find yourself trying CyanogenMod 10.1.3 stable and it still works great a week later, let me know--maybe I need to send mine in for a warranty swap.
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It is not CM10.1.3, it is your device being hit with the need for trim. Your stock would act the same way. Read in the CM10.2 thread.
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Oh my god, you're right! I have to admit I noticed the TRIM issue when I first installed CyanogenMod (hard to miss, it's at the top in big red letters ). I realized it's a perfect match for the performance degradation I'd been seeing, but I dismissed it as a possible cause out of a naive belief that there's no way a manufacturer could ship something that crippled. I thought surely it would have been caught during testing. I also didn't want to read a 100+ page thread to figure out exactly what the issue is when the search was broken. I've taken a few hours and caught up on the thread now... I guess if it looks like cheese, and smells like cheese... it's gotta be cheese.
I've got MAG2GA & 0x000015 memory chips, looks like my only option is to brick it and do a warranty swap I'm curious as to how the other people above reported good experiences; are you guys purposely installing builds with TRIM enabled because you know have good memory chips? Seems to me almost every ROM around here has it purposely disabled. Either that or you've barely used the internal flash memory.
I guess the first recommendation for Kido44 would be to figure out what kind of memory you have, so you know if you can install a kernel with TRIM enabled. The degradation in performance without it is so bad, I want to fling it at the wall. I guess it might not be noticeable right away for you if all you're planning on doing is some light web browsing and Netflix viewing, but you'll run into it at some point and weep. I suspect you're already getting there if the stock ROM is starting to lag a little bit.
As always, thanks to leapinlar for pointing me in the right direction

I've been happy with CM 10.1 for a while, ran really stable without any major hiccups, but the lag got so bad due to the lack of trim that I decided to take the plunge and risk installing 10.2 Milestone 1 with a trim-enabled kernel. I also have a bad emmc chip but I'm willing to risk it.
It's not what I'd recommend for everyone, but that's my experience.

episode96 said:
I've been happy with CM 10.1 for a while, ran really stable without any major hiccups, but the lag got so bad due to the lack of trim that I decided to take the plunge and risk installing 10.2 Milestone 1 with a trim-enabled kernel. I also have a bad emmc chip but I'm willing to risk it.
It's not what I'd recommend for everyone, but that's my experience.
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Carbon B11 + cm10.1.3 kernel has been working well on my HD+ for a while. It's almost as fast as the trimmed cm10.2 but without the fault risk.

jamus28 said:
Carbon B11 + cm10.1.3 kernel has been working well on my HD+ for a while. It's almost as fast as the trimmed cm10.2 but without the fault risk.
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Not sure I understand. Won't it get slow eventually because of the lack of trim?

Sure, but it was still usable after several weeks.

I like Slimrom for the most part and observedly better than CM 10.1.3 on my nook hd+. Seems faster and more responsive, and if you use Puffin browser, it seems like it's 2x faster compared to stock browser (that's just my imo, ymmv). Anyway, I've tested only 3 roms so far, slim, cm, and carbon, so my question is, are there any roms that you guys recommended on the hd+ that can maybe compare with slim? Slim doesn't seem to be officially supported.

Installing 3rd party ROM is really necessary?

My NOOK HD+ currently runs stock ROM and so far I don't encounter any issues. I was wondering how the improvement is if installing CM10.X or CyanogenMod 10.X on my NOOK. They are almost the same, a little better or huge difference? Thanks for any feedback or suggestion.

If you are happy with stock than just stick with it. It's not a HUGE improvement but the UI does seem smoother and apps seem to open a bit snappier. A lot more options open up with mods/ exposed framework/ more app options in the play store. It's kind of subjective though. I sometimes miss the Stock launcher but I'm happy with all the optional mods and stuff.
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felacio said:
If you are happy with stock than just stick with it. It's not a HUGE improvement but the UI does seem smoother and apps seem to open a bit snappier. A lot more options open up with mods/ exposed framework/ more app options in the play store. It's kind of subjective though. I sometimes miss the Stock launcher but I'm happy with all the optional mods and stuff.
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Thank you for your feedback.
In fact, I am interested in installing the CM10.3 on my NOOK HD+. However, I was told by a BN agent that the unit will definitely lose the warranty if I go for it. If it is not a huge improvement, is it worthy of taking the risk?

If you do an SD install I don't see it voiding your warranty. That way you can try it out, but I think you would.get better performance with an EMMC install. Someone else correct me if I'm wrong on that one.
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Emmc is definitely better performance wise over SD but SD lets you use both with no issues. So it is worth it to try that one first and see if you like it.
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I got mine with the intent of keeping it stock. It took me about two minutes of frustration in the Play Store to change my mind.

I much rather prefer CyanogenMod 10.1.3 , stable. Although version 2.10 + of stock ROM isn't bad either, since it now bundles Google Play Store by default. When Nook's initially released, they didn't have Google Play, so I installed CyanogenMod; and after that, I've stuck with it.
I believe my father (the person I gave the Nook to) prefers CyanogenMod too; as he now gets the full Android experience. On newer Nooks, I believe performance isn't as good as stock; but this varies for different models, most people report greater performance on CM. Using CyanogenMod 10.1.3 also updates you to 4.2.2 Jelly Bean, whereas stock ROM uses Android 4.0.4 ICS.
It's true however, that if you install CyanogenMod your warranty is void. Of course, you could still go ahead and install CM, but when you want a warranty on your Nook, just reinstall stock ROM; or others have suggested, you could install CM on an SD card. Also as stated, CM on SD card isn't as great performance, if it was installed on your internal storage (EMMC).
It's completely your choice, but if you're happy/more than satisfied with stock ROM, I'd stay with it. If you want more from your tablet, and are willing to forsake your current interface on your tablet, you could install CyanogenMod.
All I can is, it's completely your choice, haha. All the best.

I think it also depends on whether you use other Android devices. Two friends bought Nook HD+'s, - one of them has another Android device - so I put CM10.1 on it. The other person isn't as tech savvy, and doesn't use any other Android devices, so I left it at stock.

I primarily use the Nook HD+ for watching movies and TV episodes using Netflix. I tried CM 10.1 but the audio lagged noticeably behind the video so I went back to stock which doesn't have the Netflix audio lag issue. Just my experience. Your experience may differ.
Most other apps under CM 10.1 ran very well.

What got me to flip to CyanogenMod was that there's no way to tell stock Nook OS to permit the installation of 3rd-party apps the way there is in vanilla Android—and I had bought a lot of games through the Humble Indie Bundle.
So I installed CyanogenMod 10.1 and never looked back. Haven't regretted it, either. The tablet is altogether more useful and versatile as a vanilla Android device. Haven't noticed any lag problems with Netflix or any other online video either.

If you can do everything you want with stock, you should probably just leave it.
But if you are going to do it I too would recommend 10.1.3, 10.2 is not as smooth in my opinion
and a few less things work properly.
Netflix runs perfectly on my HD+ with 10.1.3 (non official mid july build)

Robotech_Master said:
What got me to flip to CyanogenMod was that there's no way to tell stock Nook OS to permit the installation of 3rd-party apps the way there is in vanilla Android—and I had bought a lot of games through the Humble Indie Bundle.
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There is a way to permit installation of 3rd party apps. Go to my HD/HD+ CWM thread linked in my signature and make a bootable CWM SD and flash my enable unknown sources zip.
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leapinlar said:
There is a way to permit installation of 3rd party apps. Go to my HD/HD+ CWM thread linked in my signature and make a bootable CWM SD and flash my enable unknown sources zip.
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Nice to know, but if I was going to go to that much trouble I'd just enable stock Android anyway. After having used Android a while already, the Nook launcher drove me nuts.

Installing custom software opens up a lot of customization to your nook, it gives you the opportunity to make the device your own in the sense of modifying it however you wish for your own convenience.
I suggest you do not touch the internal emmc, the Nook has the amazing advantage of booting from the SD card which I use. If you use a bootable SD card you'll keep your warranty(I think) while having the freedom of CM on your device, best of both worlds.
I've been using SD card 10.1 for a while now on a class 4 sdcard, it's very functional and there is small to almost no lag while using it. You might experience some lag while opening an app because it's being loaded from the sdcard into the ram, although it happens for a couple of seconds before getting backt o speed.

[Q] Leave Well Enough Alone (Finally)???

At the risk of sounding a touch naive, I feel compelled to ask the following.
Having owned an original 7 inch Nook that I fully converted to 4.1 and now the very satisfied owner of an HD+ that I fully converted to 4.2.2 some time ago, is there any "real world" advantage to moving up to 4.4 with the following considerations:
1. Under a fully transformed eMMc 4.2.2, I am experiencing no operational problems or issues.
2. My primary use for the HD+ is reading using both the Nook and Kindle apps, occasionally watching movies using the MX Player app, using a small handful of other apps primarily for current events and weather, email, and using the larger screen to view digital photos taken on my trips.
Under 4.2.2, it handles all of the above with few, if any, real hiccups.
If my actual day-to-day usage remains as above, will 4.4 really offer any substantive changes?
With that said, have I finally arrived at the "leave well enough alone" time in my ongoing transformations and updates?
Thanks in advance for any relevant comments and/or advice.

I'm just going to assume you are talking about CM10.1 (4.2) and CM11 (4.4).
CM11 is still a Nightly, so i would not recommend it as you want to use your HD+ for normal activities and not to experiment with.
To me, CM10.2 (4.3) ist the most stable version, but if you don't encounter any problem with 10.1, then there is no real need to upgrade IMO.

If everything is working I would let it ride. If you do decide to move forward make a backup so you can go back.

I'm in kind of the same boat. I've been using the Xperia tweaked Carbon ROM which is 4.2.2 and have yet to see a real compelling reason to move from it. My desire to constantly flash something and try new roms is outweighed by my desire to have a stable, useful device.
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Thanks.
"My desire to constantly flash something and try new roms is outweighed by my desire to have a stable, useful device." Could not have phrased it better myself. Have definitely reached the point where experimenting, rooting, fully transforming, etc. no longer works as its own stimulant in the face of a very stable, reliable, eMMc conversion that works the way I (currently) need it to. Now if Amazon would bring out an 8.9 inch version of the DX that I have with a touchscreen and back light...hmm!

I started with various CM11 nightly builds, then "downgraded" to CM10.2 and now am happier. Various apps I had problems with are now working. I miss a few minor things like no transparent status bar and soft buttons not hiding in some apps, but I prefer the stability. I may try CM11 later at some point.

Hmm... Your mileage may vary...
I have been upgrading my Nook HD+ steadily until verygreen's 1/18 build of CM11. I have installed the pa_gapps-modular-full-4.4.2-20140111-signed gapps package. I have access to just about everything I need on the Google Play store, Amazon Store, 1mobile store. It is solid. Doesn't reboot without reason. And except for a couple of non-standard apps, everything runs smooth and good. I couldn't be happier with this version of KitKat and I like it a lot better than JellyBean, and my battery life is very good, even when running intensive games or using WiFi heavily.
Is there a real reason to upgrade? That is a personal preference. I would say yes, as my experience has been so good. Even the upgrade process was fairly painless using verygreen's instructions. Just had to load a new CWM, reboot into it and flash the new rom and gapps and I was on my way. Fair to say, I haven't been upgrading to every new nightly that comes out. Viewing the changelogs, I don't see any obvious reason to do so, and so I am waiting for any changes that verygreen deems necessary to flash.
That's my two-pence worth of opinion. I hope that helps alleviate any fears you might have for upgrading.

Thanks to all for your replies and comments. Looks like I will stay put with 10.1/4.2.2 for the time being as all is "really" well!

[Q] Nook HD+ still worth buying in 2015?

Hello,
Nice to see an active community for the Nook HD+. I'm seeing them here in the UK for £70-80 refurbished and wondered if it's still worth buying one? I'm most specifically looking for a tablet that can comfortably display sheet music in portrait orientation (I will never get an iPad, it's Android all the way for me). The Nook HD+ still seems to be one of the only larger screened Android tabs with a comfortable display ratio for portrait, aside from the Nexus 9, but that is way expensive for my budget.
Anyone comment on the above? I'm particularly interested if you have used a Nook HD+ to display sheet music successfully. Also, anyone think there is a better large screen tab for under £100 at the moment? Obviously the cons of the Nook HD+ are the propriety charger, lack of cameras (thought that really isn't an issue for me) and lack of GPS and the other things taken for granted on other tabs. But I can't seem to find anything under £100 that comes close to the Nook's display. 9" full HD is pretty impressive for that price. Everything else I've seen has really poor resolution, or a smaller screen (or both).

The large circa 2000x1200 display of the nook is good so I think you have the best value for your use, as the other weakness ie procesor and graphics accellertion won't effect your music.
I use my look for web reading, comics and pdf manual reading and its excellant for that.

Just be aware that the Nook OS is 3 generations behind and likely won't support many recently written apps. To make it fully functional you'll have to install a custom ROM. If you do that it's probably the best value in an Android tablet.
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lmacmil said:
Just be aware that the Nook OS is 3 generations behind and likely won't support many recently written apps. To make it fully functional you'll have to install a custom ROM. If you do that it's probably the best value in an Android tablet.
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Yup, definitely wouldn't consider it without CM11, but I can't find anything else that comes close to matching the screen size and quality for £80. My finger is hovering over the payment button... [emoji2]

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If you do that it's probably the best value in an Android tablet.
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+1.
The Nook HD+ running CM11 is my favorite amongst all my tablets which include the Google Nexus and Samsung Note. Prior to the HD+my favorite tablet was the Nook Tablet running CM10/11. It's too bad that BN got out of the tablet hardware business.

digixmax said:
+1.
The Nook HD+ running CM11 is my favorite amongst all my tablets which include the Google Nexus and Samsung Note. Prior to the HD+my favorite tablet was the Nook Tablet running CM10/11. It's too bad that BN got out of the tablet hardware business.
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Great, you've sold me.
Next question is, which is the most stable, CM10 final stable build, CM11 (and if so, the latest nightly or the M12 snapshot) or SlimKat? I use SlimKat on my Galaxy S4 and love it's layout and features. I've posted a question on the SlimKat thread here, as 9.0 is the latest stable but the build for the Nook seems to be 8.12...

Oops, just realised the above post might come across as a "which ROM is better" request which are (quite rightly) frowned upon in these parts. It's more which is the most stable. My sense from reading here is that it's CM11...

gordonthegopher said:
Oops, just realised the above post might come across as a "which ROM is better" request which are (quite rightly) frowned upon in these parts. It's more which is the most stable. My sense from reading here is that it's CM11...
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The most stable is CM10.1.3.
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It's more which is the most stable. My sense from reading here is that it's CM11...
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Here are some data points for you. My wife has the HD+ and runs 10.1.3. She mostly surfs the web and watches movies but will occasionally look at Yelp or Facebook and run a few other apps. I have an HD which was running 10.2.1 until yesterday. I had no issues on 10.2.1. Yesterday I installed CM11 snapshot M12. I have only used email, Chrome, FB and a weather app. So far, so good. The only hiccup installing CM11 was that I couldn't backup to or install from the external SD card. Had to do both from internal storage but other than that it went smoothly.

Thanks guys. I'm think gonna start on CM11 M12, prefer to be on KitKat. I saw a YouTube video saying bluetooth causes lag on CM11, is this still the case? And is there the same problem on CM11?

Personally, a custom CM10.2.1 (Android 4.3) build by @Jon Lee has been exceptionally stable for me with F2FS for /data and /cache partitions. No lag, no bugs, extreme stability and exceptional battery life.
Link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58382663&postcount=148

Can anyone give me a summary as to why F2FS is better than Ext4? I'd never heard of F2FS before I started looking on here for Nook HD+ advice.

gordonthegopher said:
Great, you've sold me.
Next question is, which is the most stable, CM10 final stable build, CM11 (and if so, the latest nightly or the M12 snapshot) or SlimKat? I use SlimKat on my Galaxy S4 and love it's layout and features. I've posted a question on the SlimKat thread here, as 9.0 is the latest stable but the build for the Nook seems to be 8.12...
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I've been running CM11 (snapshot builds) for nearly a year now, it's been very stable for my use of the tablet -- email, news and web surfing, occasional Hulu/Netflix streaming.
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Can anyone give me a summary as to why F2FS is better than Ext4? I'd never heard of F2FS before I started looking on here for Nook HD+ advice.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2697069

Well, I've gone for the latest M12 snapshot of CM11 with ext4 and ART. Haven't played too much so far, but very happy with the Nook HD+ overall. The screen is fantastic! Perfect for my main usage as a sheet music display (we make so many tweaks in rehearsals I was ripping through paper in no time! 9" 3:2 is just about big enough to read in portrait mode and this way we only have to print right before a gig. Savin' me some trees!)
Thanks for everybody's advice.

Best install for HD+ 4.3 too many versions for dummy

trying to install 4.3 or higher so new health watch will work. There is so many versions I am confused (which is easy to do) what IS CM 10.2 ? is this the version I need or do I need to use something else and what is the best version of Roms to use. I hope this is not too confusing if so it is because I am confused. Would some one please help me out.
cutting to the chase:
I need 4.3 or higher on my nook HD+.
Thanks

Retired
New age electronics a little fuzzy for me. The install for dummies has the cm11 file site closed.
Is there a newbie install guide for the most stable rom install ? Sorry if my terminology is incorrect. I would like to use a site that has all of the parts needed listed and can be down loaded. I need at least 4.3 or higher. As you can tell I am very new at this and would appreciate any help.
From reading yesterday it looks like cm 10.1.3 is the most stable or is there anew one on the scene.
Careful one

carefulone said:
New age electronics a little fuzzy for me. The install for dummies has the cm11 file site closed.
Is there a newbie install guide for the most stable rom install ? Sorry if my terminology is incorrect. I would like to use a site that has all of the parts needed listed and can be down loaded. I need at least 4.3 or higher. As you can tell I am very new at this and would appreciate any help.
From reading yesterday it looks like cm 10.1.3 is the most stable or is there anew one on the scene.
Careful one
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I still think cm10.1.3 is best.
What do you mean the install for dummies has cm11 file site closed? Do you mean my install for dummies thread? The links there still work.
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I see that you still prefer 10.1.3, leapinlar, just curious as to why. I mean I ask because I know 4.4 brings things that should be useful especially TRIM for our older NHD hardware which it should certainly benefit from. I just got an 8GB NHD (I have a 32GB microSD for expansion as well) from a pawn shop several hours ago for $10 (had 2.1 on it, then upgraded to 2.2.1 and it seems to work fine overall) and it's got no issues. My Wife and I communicate using YIM (Yahoo Instant Messenger) and that won't work on the NHD (it's a Yahoo issue, not the NHD) so we're migrating over to using Hangouts which is fine as well.
But now that we have two NHDs I can goof off with mine. She's had one for a few years that I get to play with on occasion, I put CM11 on it a long time ago and it's been fine but tonight I made a backup of mine after a complete de-registration (from the previous owner) so it was clean as a whistle, then I simply restored that backup to hers so now we have to "almost" factory-fresh 2.2.1 NHDs to work with.
I remember when we first got the NHD back in late 2013 the stock software was crap and laggy which is why I pushed CM on it as soon as I could (CM10, then later on CM11). Obviously I want to eek out the best performance I can from this device even in spite of the age so, again, I'm curious to why you prefer 10.1.3 - I'm at a point right now where I'd like to install a custom ROM since I can do more experimentation with my NHD that I just got for $10 than the Wife's, so I'm just "on the market" one could say to see what the options are.
I can't tolerate Lollipop so I won't be going anywhere near Android 5.x or CM12 for any reason; I prefer Android 4.4.x at this point but even after all this time CM still doesn't have a stable CM11 build and at this point I doubt it'll ever happen so, since 10.1.3 appears as a stable option I'm considering it.
I'm guessing you run your 10.1.3 from the eMMC and not SD card, but I don't think I've ever seen you say which way you do things. And just to ask: any issues on your NHD with 10.1.3 that you'd care to mention, anything at all? Everything runs smooth and great, etc? Do you use a custom kernel with any tweaks/governors/etc? If you can answer here, awesome, if not that's fine, perhaps the info is someplace buried in another thread which I need to look for.
You've got vastly more experience with the NHD than I do and your guides and your assistance with these devices (and the Nook Color and Tablet as well) are invaluable resources here so thanks for your continuing efforts.
I'm just looking to get the best performance/battery life/etc from this Nook HD, like most anyone I suppose, so any suggestions are very welcome, indeed.

br0adband said:
I see that you still prefer 10.1.3, leapinlar, just curious as to why. I mean I ask because I know 4.4 brings things that should be useful especially TRIM for our older NHD hardware which it should certainly benefit from. I just got an 8GB NHD (I have a 32GB microSD for expansion as well) from a pawn shop several hours ago for $10 (had 2.1 on it, then upgraded to 2.2.1 and it seems to work fine overall) and it's got no issues. My Wife and I communicate using YIM (Yahoo Instant Messenger) and that won't work on the NHD (it's a Yahoo issue, not the NHD) so we're migrating over to using Hangouts which is fine as well.
But now that we have two NHDs I can goof off with mine. She's had one for a few years that I get to play with on occasion, I put CM11 on it a long time ago and it's been fine but tonight I made a backup of mine after a complete de-registration (from the previous owner) so it was clean as a whistle, then I simply restored that backup to hers so now we have to "almost" factory-fresh 2.2.1 NHDs to work with.
I remember when we first got the NHD back in late 2013 the stock software was crap and laggy which is why I pushed CM on it as soon as I could (CM10, then later on CM11). Obviously I want to eek out the best performance I can from this device even in spite of the age so, again, I'm curious to why you prefer 10.1.3 - I'm at a point right now where I'd like to install a custom ROM since I can do more experimentation with my NHD that I just got for $10 than the Wife's, so I'm just "on the market" one could say to see what the options are.
I can't tolerate Lollipop so I won't be going anywhere near Android 5.x or CM12 for any reason; I prefer Android 4.4.x at this point but even after all this time CM still doesn't have a stable CM11 build and at this point I doubt it'll ever happen so, since 10.1.3 appears as a stable option I'm considering it.
I'm guessing you run your 10.1.3 from the eMMC and not SD card, but I don't think I've ever seen you say which way you do things. And just to ask: any issues on your NHD with 10.1.3 that you'd care to mention, anything at all? Everything runs smooth and great, etc? Do you use a custom kernel with any tweaks/governors/etc? If you can answer here, awesome, if not that's fine, perhaps the info is someplace buried in another thread which I need to look for.
You've got vastly more experience with the NHD than I do and your guides and your assistance with these devices (and the Nook Color and Tablet as well) are invaluable resources here so thanks for your continuing efforts.
I'm just looking to get the best performance/battery life/etc from this Nook HD, like most anyone I suppose, so any suggestions are very welcome, indeed.
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I prefer 10.1.3 because I have never had one issue with it. I tried 10.2 while it was still in nightlies and had issues so moved back. Now that 10.2.1 is stable it may be ok. I tried Jon Lee's 10.2 with the tweaked kernel and found it unstable.
And I do run from emmc, but have run from SD with no issues using a good SD.
I recommend against 11 for the HD+ for the very reason you tout it, TRIM. I have seen a lot of HD+ get bricked by TRIM even though the kernel is supposed to be fixed to prevent that. It is just certain models of HD+, others seem safe. I have not heard of any HD's getting bricked though.
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Just tried CM11 (the 8-13 Nightly) and was somewhat disappointed in some aspects; I have a bunch of content on the Google Play Movies & TV side of things and that app won't play any videos at all on CM11, not sure what the issue is and I'm not interested in bothering with it so I'm rolling back to pure stock 2.2.1 for the time being.
I most likely will give 10.1.3 a shot, it can't hurt I suppose and I figure it'll be pretty snappy all around.
Any idea if there are any custom kernels that might function on that (meaning 10.1.3) to allow for more options for tweaking things (governors and I/O, etc)? I'll do more research but for now as stated I'll stick with pure stock since it seems to work ok.
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Just tried CM11 (the 8-13 Nightly) and was somewhat disappointed in some aspects; I have a bunch of content on the Google Play Movies & TV side of things and that app won't play any videos at all on CM11, not sure what the issue is and I'm not interested in bothering with it so I'm rolling back to pure stock 2.2.1 for the time being.
I most likely will give 10.1.3 a shot, it can't hurt I suppose and I figure it'll be pretty snappy all around.
Any idea if there are any custom kernels that might function on that (meaning 10.1.3) to allow for more options for tweaking things (governors and I/O, etc)? I'll do more research but for now as stated I'll stick with pure stock since it seems to work ok.
Thanks for the response...
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Yes, I think the yellow kernel by Jon Lee has a 10.1.3 version. But I found it unstable.
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I also need to know which ROM is best for 4.3+. I have an android wear watch I need to pair. Should I use cm 10.2 or 11? Which ROM of the better cm should I use? Much obliged for your help and assistance.

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