Hello,
Nice to see an active community for the Nook HD+. I'm seeing them here in the UK for £70-80 refurbished and wondered if it's still worth buying one? I'm most specifically looking for a tablet that can comfortably display sheet music in portrait orientation (I will never get an iPad, it's Android all the way for me). The Nook HD+ still seems to be one of the only larger screened Android tabs with a comfortable display ratio for portrait, aside from the Nexus 9, but that is way expensive for my budget.
Anyone comment on the above? I'm particularly interested if you have used a Nook HD+ to display sheet music successfully. Also, anyone think there is a better large screen tab for under £100 at the moment? Obviously the cons of the Nook HD+ are the propriety charger, lack of cameras (thought that really isn't an issue for me) and lack of GPS and the other things taken for granted on other tabs. But I can't seem to find anything under £100 that comes close to the Nook's display. 9" full HD is pretty impressive for that price. Everything else I've seen has really poor resolution, or a smaller screen (or both).
The large circa 2000x1200 display of the nook is good so I think you have the best value for your use, as the other weakness ie procesor and graphics accellertion won't effect your music.
I use my look for web reading, comics and pdf manual reading and its excellant for that.
Just be aware that the Nook OS is 3 generations behind and likely won't support many recently written apps. To make it fully functional you'll have to install a custom ROM. If you do that it's probably the best value in an Android tablet.
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lmacmil said:
Just be aware that the Nook OS is 3 generations behind and likely won't support many recently written apps. To make it fully functional you'll have to install a custom ROM. If you do that it's probably the best value in an Android tablet.
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Yup, definitely wouldn't consider it without CM11, but I can't find anything else that comes close to matching the screen size and quality for £80. My finger is hovering over the payment button... [emoji2]
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If you do that it's probably the best value in an Android tablet.
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+1.
The Nook HD+ running CM11 is my favorite amongst all my tablets which include the Google Nexus and Samsung Note. Prior to the HD+my favorite tablet was the Nook Tablet running CM10/11. It's too bad that BN got out of the tablet hardware business.
digixmax said:
+1.
The Nook HD+ running CM11 is my favorite amongst all my tablets which include the Google Nexus and Samsung Note. Prior to the HD+my favorite tablet was the Nook Tablet running CM10/11. It's too bad that BN got out of the tablet hardware business.
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Great, you've sold me.
Next question is, which is the most stable, CM10 final stable build, CM11 (and if so, the latest nightly or the M12 snapshot) or SlimKat? I use SlimKat on my Galaxy S4 and love it's layout and features. I've posted a question on the SlimKat thread here, as 9.0 is the latest stable but the build for the Nook seems to be 8.12...
Oops, just realised the above post might come across as a "which ROM is better" request which are (quite rightly) frowned upon in these parts. It's more which is the most stable. My sense from reading here is that it's CM11...
gordonthegopher said:
Oops, just realised the above post might come across as a "which ROM is better" request which are (quite rightly) frowned upon in these parts. It's more which is the most stable. My sense from reading here is that it's CM11...
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The most stable is CM10.1.3.
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It's more which is the most stable. My sense from reading here is that it's CM11...
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Here are some data points for you. My wife has the HD+ and runs 10.1.3. She mostly surfs the web and watches movies but will occasionally look at Yelp or Facebook and run a few other apps. I have an HD which was running 10.2.1 until yesterday. I had no issues on 10.2.1. Yesterday I installed CM11 snapshot M12. I have only used email, Chrome, FB and a weather app. So far, so good. The only hiccup installing CM11 was that I couldn't backup to or install from the external SD card. Had to do both from internal storage but other than that it went smoothly.
Thanks guys. I'm think gonna start on CM11 M12, prefer to be on KitKat. I saw a YouTube video saying bluetooth causes lag on CM11, is this still the case? And is there the same problem on CM11?
Personally, a custom CM10.2.1 (Android 4.3) build by @Jon Lee has been exceptionally stable for me with F2FS for /data and /cache partitions. No lag, no bugs, extreme stability and exceptional battery life.
Link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58382663&postcount=148
Can anyone give me a summary as to why F2FS is better than Ext4? I'd never heard of F2FS before I started looking on here for Nook HD+ advice.
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Great, you've sold me.
Next question is, which is the most stable, CM10 final stable build, CM11 (and if so, the latest nightly or the M12 snapshot) or SlimKat? I use SlimKat on my Galaxy S4 and love it's layout and features. I've posted a question on the SlimKat thread here, as 9.0 is the latest stable but the build for the Nook seems to be 8.12...
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I've been running CM11 (snapshot builds) for nearly a year now, it's been very stable for my use of the tablet -- email, news and web surfing, occasional Hulu/Netflix streaming.
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Can anyone give me a summary as to why F2FS is better than Ext4? I'd never heard of F2FS before I started looking on here for Nook HD+ advice.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2697069
Well, I've gone for the latest M12 snapshot of CM11 with ext4 and ART. Haven't played too much so far, but very happy with the Nook HD+ overall. The screen is fantastic! Perfect for my main usage as a sheet music display (we make so many tweaks in rehearsals I was ripping through paper in no time! 9" 3:2 is just about big enough to read in portrait mode and this way we only have to print right before a gig. Savin' me some trees!)
Thanks for everybody's advice.
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Alright so I know there are many many topics on custom roms for the Nook HD+.
Some of the instructions for installing the rom seems so complicated. Is there any step by step guides to follow or youtube videos on how to install it on to the Nook HD+?
Thanks in advance!!!
Follow emote's instructions in the first post of this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500
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#1 - REGISTER your Nook with B&N, BEFORE you remove the old software.
Well, there's this "Dummies" guide for EMMC that will COMPLETELY remove the Stock B&N software, then there's the "Hybrid/SD Card" method , that will keep the B&N stock and add a dual boot option with CM 10.1.
CyanogenMod 10.1 is based on Gogle's Jelly Bean OS for mobile devices, modified to run on a number of devices, including our Nook HD/HD+.
I'm using the Nightly CM 10.1, and it runs better than the stock software, there are other ROM available, but I've never tried them so I can't offer any opinion on them.
Following the Dummies guide by e.mote, is simple and straight forward, read the instructions, then read them again, download the required tools and software and you'll be running CM10.1 in a few minutes.
Good Luck, and enjoy your improved tablet!
Which ovation emmc do I download there are so many?!
And also which NookHDplus-bootable-CWM?
I am so confused, there are so many to download I am not even sure I even have the right files or not.
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Which ovation emmc do I download there are so many?!
And also which NookHDplus-bootable-CWM?
I am so confused, there are so many to download I am not even sure I even have the right files or not.
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The "Dummies Guide" thread has a step by step guide with the files listed, and the tools needed to use them. You will almost always want the latest files, except for the ones labeled "Experimental" - those are often for the people who WANT to test and understand they MIGHT cause crashes and have major bugs.
e.mote did an awesome job of organizing the steps and files needed, I would not be able to provide and better or easier guide.
The file names are above the links, look for the files of the same name.
EMMC - NIGHTLY is 20130812, these are built every night, hence the name. I'm using the first official nightly without any problems - 20130809.
CWM - NookHDplus-bootable-CWM-6028-for-stock-4GB-rev4-(05.15.13).zip - is the file you want.
Hope this helps a little.
I use Carbon (b11). the only rom I installed. Works like a charm. No problems.
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I use Carbon (b11). the only rom I installed. Works like a charm. No problems.
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I have to second this Carbon works great. I do also have a boot-able CM10.1 SD card just so I can mix things up but I spend 95% of my time in Carbon.
Is the emmc faster than sd?
dagem said:
#1 - REGISTER your Nook with B&N, BEFORE you remove the old software.
Well, there's this "Dummies" guide for EMMC that will COMPLETELY remove the Stock B&N software, then there's the "Hybrid/SD Card" method , that will keep the B&N stock and add a dual boot option with CM 10.1.
CyanogenMod 10.1 is based on Gogle's Jelly Bean OS for mobile devices, modified to run on a number of devices, including our Nook HD/HD+.
I'm using the Nightly CM 10.1, and it runs better than the stock software, there are other ROM available, but I've never tried them so I can't offer any opinion on them.
Following the Dummies guide by e.mote, is simple and straight forward, read the instructions, then read them again, download the required tools and software and you'll be running CM10.1 in a few minutes.
Good Luck, and enjoy your improved tablet!
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Is installing CM10.1 on the emmc faster than sd?
I have an sd bootable cm10.1 is use now and it lags about the speed of a 2010 phone.
I also haven't updated since may, but its just so slow that nobody in my family can bear its "laggyness"
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Is installing CM10.1 on the emmc faster than sd?
I have an sd bootable cm10.1 is use now and it lags about the speed of a 2010 phone.
I also haven't updated since may, but its just so slow that nobody in my family can bear its "laggyness"
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Depends on the SD you are using. It can be faster. And that ROM is old so a newer one could be faster.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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Is installing CM10.1 on the emmc faster than sd?
I have an sd bootable cm10.1 is use now and it lags about the speed of a 2010 phone.
I also haven't updated since may, but its just so slow that nobody in my family can bear its "laggyness"
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I've only used the EMMC method, it seemed to be the easiest way, since I didn't care for the B&N software. I can't tell much (if any) of a speed difference from 20130711 Unofficial, to the 20130809 Nightly I'm using now, but I doubt there have been THAT many changes that would boost or slow speed in that time frame.
I've also NEVER felt like it was lagging or slow, but this is my first tablet and I didn't expect it to run like my Asus Intel I5 laptop, it does boot much faster however.
I'm using a SanDisk class4 16gb with not to many apps installed. Does everybody's hd+ running CM emmc work like it was a nexus 7?
This lag just makes turning on a computer faster to browse with
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I'm using a SanDisk class4 16gb with not to many apps installed. Does everybody's hd+ running CM emmc work like it was a nexus 7?
This lag just makes turning on a computer faster to browse with
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I don't surf much on my Nook the 1920x1200 @ 9" is too tough on my eyes and I've got a ssd in my desktop so it boots fast enough to look something up quick.
It will however stream a 1080 HD movie from my PC without stuttering, I watched Lucky Number Sleven the other day without a glitch. It plays PVZ, Cut the Rope (too many to count), Angry Birds (too many to count), etc, etc.. for me it's a movie player with light gaming machine. I can surf Reddit with Reddit News Free without lag, so it's also a "toilet reader" kinda thing too.
Maybe my expectations were lower since it was my first tablet, and I only watch movies and play light games. that it feel so nice. I really didn't expect to be blown away by it's abilities, and was more than pleasantly surprised. I'm actually thinking of grabbing a second one since my wife and/or daughter always seems to be on it.
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I'm using a SanDisk class4 16gb with not to many apps installed. Does everybody's hd+ running CM emmc work like it was a nexus 7?
This lag just makes turning on a computer faster to browse with
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I don't have a Nexus 7 to compare against, but my wife has a Galaxy Tab 10.1 (rooted, running JB from December 2012). The Nook HD+ running CM10.1 (verygreen's build from late July on EMMC) is a better experience. I use her tablet occasionally, and things just aren't as snappy. Plus it doesn't have a micro-sd card to expand storage.
The HD+ has noticeable higher resolution and loads apps faster. Also, for some reason, the RedFin (real estate) app on her Tab will come to a halt after about 15 minutes of use (pictures stop loading, gets the spinning circle). Need to kill the app and restart. On the HD+, it appears to run indefinitely.
I never ran a CM10.1 build on the sd card so I can't comment of the difference in performance.
Hope this helps...
I'm a newbie to the rooting community. Since CM officially started supporting HD+ and has been releasing "nightly" versions, which, as someone earlier stated are literally nightly releases, does it mean the current 2013-08-14 release is not the final one and we can expect more in the coming days?
Also, do the new releases mean more stablitity or fixed glitches? If so, by when can we expect a stable and reliable ROM from CM?
tweeked xperia rom for nook hd+
I have just changed from cm11 to the tweeked xperia Carbon rom . What a difference no fc apps it is extremely smooth and a pleasure to use. Highly recommended.
I use cm11 nightly and just manually strip the heck out of it using an app remover as well as change some folder permissions to disable any logging
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I'm a newbie to the rooting community. Since CM officially started supporting HD+ and has been releasing "nightly" versions, which, as someone earlier stated are literally nightly releases, does it mean the current 2013-08-14 release is not the final one and we can expect more in the coming days?
Also, do the new releases mean more stablitity or fixed glitches? If so, by when can we expect a stable and reliable ROM from CM?
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This is a quote from a cm forum admin, he explains by tter than I ever could,
"Stable is after all the features desired by the CM devs have been put in and the code has been tested. Snapshots (M builds) are builds done roughly once a month that has had some testing to make sure things are mostly working and released to the public. These are the first builds that allow official bug reports on the project manager site, https://jira.cyanogenmod.org. Nightlies are automated builds that are built, well, every night. There is no human interaction with these and they are largely there just to see if the code added throughout the day will compile. As far as the devs are concerned, there are no bad builds with the nightlies, because if it doesn't build, that is news to let them know that something is screwed up in the code. They don't accept any bug reports on these builds.
Generally, the nightly builds, while extremely experimental and considered bleeding-edge, tend to be relatively stable and mostly bug-free. Many people use the nightlies as their so-called daily-driver, meaning that any bugs that they may have aren't so severe that they want to switch to a different version. For my Nexus 4, as soon as I got it I switched to a nightly build and haven't had any bugs pop up.
Also, all builds are full builds, so if you switch to a nightly, you aren't required to flash every single nightly. You can do it as you see fit. I've been known sometimes to flash a build every day, but then I've gone a month in between updating. Just grab the latest version you want to flash and flash that one. "
I was going through the Kindle fire android development forum and I found a new Kit Kat rom posted over there.
As per my understanding, the main hurdle in Kit Kat development for Nook HD and HD+ is the availability of TI OMAP drivers. (correct me if I am wrong)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543481
Would ^ help development of a Kit Kat based rom for our Nooks ?
Or am I being too optimistic.
I would love to hear what others think about that.
It depends on whether our great developer @verygreen has the time to work on it or not.
Anyway, I am very happy with cm10.2 right now. Everything is fast and smooth. Wifi has been fixed. Trim issue finally settled down.
But more rom would be better
laofan said:
It depends on whether our great developer @verygreen has the time to work on it or not.
Anyway, I am very happy with cm10.2 right now. Everything is fast and smooth. Wifi has been fixed. Trim issue finally settled down.
But more rom would be better
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Yup. CM 10 is smooth and stable enough, thanks to the developers here !!
However, it would be nice to have the features of Kitkat on our nooks which would make it lag free ( as per the advertising !! )
This is a bit out of place, but, you mentioned that the trim issue has been settled. Has it been settled for the nooks that have a faulty memory controller as well ?
I looked through the forums but couldn't find a reliable solution to the problem. Could you direct me to the correct thread ?
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Yup. CM 10 is smooth and stable enough, thanks to the developers here !!
However, it would be nice to have the features of Kitkat on our nooks which would make it lag free ( as per the advertising !! )
This is a bit out of place, but, you mentioned that the trim issue has been settled. Has it been settled for the nooks that have a faulty memory controller as well ?
I looked through the forums but couldn't find a reliable solution to the problem. Could you direct me to the correct thread ?
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No if you have a device with faulty memory don't run trim. A few people are doing it but until hey have done it for several months there is not enough data to say this is fixed. If you have plenty of money or an extended warranty feel free to try it out otherwise you could lose your device.
jpisini is Correct.
@chrono_trigger you need to find out if your nook has the faulty chip.
Here is the thread you could read
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2528009
If you have time, read the Cm10.2 thread.. The 05 chip is a faulty one.
if you happen to have the faulty one, do not run trim. I have a 06 chip but I don't run trim or flash trim kernel by myself.
Because my device is fast enough and I could not tell there is any bad lag in daily usage.
If you experience very bad lags wit your nook HD+, you could do a backup, run into CWM and restore the backup. Some people suggest it could be a good alternative to go
@jpisini Yes, I do have the Nook HD+ with the faulty emmc. I run trim only once in a while by flashing CM 10.2 with the lagfix kernel now. I have decided not to migrate to CM 10.2 now since I am pretty happy with CM 10.1.3.
@laofan I would be happy to help in CM 11 development for Nook in anyway I can. I have never developed a rom on my own before. However, I am sure it would be a great learning experience, regardless of its outcome.
Thank you for your replies !!!
laofan said:
It depends on whether our great developer @verygreen has the time to work on it or not.
Anyway, I am very happy with cm10.2 right now. Everything is fast and smooth. Wifi has been fixed. Trim issue finally settled down.
But more rom would be better
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To my experience KitKat is possibly the greatest move Google ever did towards better performance. 4.3/CM10.2 supposed to be such a move too, but KitKat (4.4) does not compare it's many time better/faster. Wherever I have installed it (in old devices of mine I mean) it almost universally solved the memory issues for the most part finally making the devices usable (I even have one with less than 300 megs total running great with Kitkat, before it was a lagfest, or shall I say a freakshow).
Our Nooks suffer from low memory (among other things), as long as OMAP chips are bad overclockers we're not going to get more performance out of hardware at least we can get it though software and in all honesty I can't wait for 4.4 to come to our devices, it's one of the slowest 2012 (relatively) high profile devices (our nooks) sadly, kitkat may change this. It can't come any sooner me thinks...
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To my experience KitKat is possibly the greatest move Google ever did towards better performance. 4.3/CM10.2 supposed to be such a move too, but KitKat (4.4) does not compare it's many time better/faster. Wherever I have installed it (in old devices of mine I mean) it almost universally solved the memory issues for the most part finally making the devices usable (I even have one with less than 300 megs total running great with Kitkat, before it was a lagfest, or shall I say a freakshow).
Our Nooks suffer from low memory (among other things), as long as OMAP chips are bad overclockers we're not going to get more performance out of hardware at least we can get it though software and in all honesty I can't wait for 4.4 to come to our devices, it's one of the slowest 2012 (relatively) high profile devices (our nooks) sadly, kitkat may change this. It can't come any sooner me thinks...
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cm10.2 is coming to the stable version soon. cm11 is not far away. I am as excited as you are!
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Yes, Cm 10.2 stable release is just round the corner.
Cyanogenmod is almost lag-free. However, I do experience some lag in scrolling in applications like playstore and soundcloud etc. Would a Kit kat upgrade make the applications lag free as well ?
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Yes, Cm 10.2 stable release is just round the corner.
Cyanogenmod is almost lag-free. However, I do experience some lag in scrolling in applications like playstore and soundcloud etc. Would a Kit kat upgrade make the applications lag free as well ?
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I think so.
For now maybe you could try different settings in I/O scheduler and Processor( in Performance settings)
I set cpu governer tointeractive, with frequency 800~1500
I/O is deadline
laofan said:
I think so.
For now maybe you could try different settings in I/O scheduler and Processor( in Performance settings)
I set cpu governer tointeractive, with frequency 800~1500
I/O is deadline
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Thanks for the tip !! It does make my Nook function smmothly in general. However, the lag in the mentioned applications is still present. Perhaps that has something to do with the applications themselves.
However, what is the impact of setting the minimum frequency at 800 Mhz on the battery backup ?
@chrono_trigger
maybe it would consume more battery drain on 800 than lower ones, but I could hardly notice it on my device.
I usually charge it over night, while most of the time it could last two days with medium usage.
You could also try turn down your screen brightness , and if not in use turn off wifi. They are using much mooooooooore battery then the 800 cpu.
All right !!
I also would love 4.4 on the nook HD to go with my nexus 5. I've been spoiled now and may dump it for a nexus 7 otherwise...
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I also would love 4.4 on the nook HD to go with my nexus 5. I've been spoiled now and may dump it for a nexus 7 otherwise...
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Oh, I'm pretty sure we will have it. Verygreen just has to get some free time from his job to devote to it.
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Oh, I'm pretty sure we will have it. Verygreen just has to get some free time from his job to devote to it.
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I can hardly wait! I've got KK on my Atrix HD and it finally made it usable memory wise. I need the same on my Nook, lag pisses me off to no end and I want immersive mode with this beautiful screen. Immersive mode is probably my favorite feature.
At the risk of sounding a touch naive, I feel compelled to ask the following.
Having owned an original 7 inch Nook that I fully converted to 4.1 and now the very satisfied owner of an HD+ that I fully converted to 4.2.2 some time ago, is there any "real world" advantage to moving up to 4.4 with the following considerations:
1. Under a fully transformed eMMc 4.2.2, I am experiencing no operational problems or issues.
2. My primary use for the HD+ is reading using both the Nook and Kindle apps, occasionally watching movies using the MX Player app, using a small handful of other apps primarily for current events and weather, email, and using the larger screen to view digital photos taken on my trips.
Under 4.2.2, it handles all of the above with few, if any, real hiccups.
If my actual day-to-day usage remains as above, will 4.4 really offer any substantive changes?
With that said, have I finally arrived at the "leave well enough alone" time in my ongoing transformations and updates?
Thanks in advance for any relevant comments and/or advice.
I'm just going to assume you are talking about CM10.1 (4.2) and CM11 (4.4).
CM11 is still a Nightly, so i would not recommend it as you want to use your HD+ for normal activities and not to experiment with.
To me, CM10.2 (4.3) ist the most stable version, but if you don't encounter any problem with 10.1, then there is no real need to upgrade IMO.
If everything is working I would let it ride. If you do decide to move forward make a backup so you can go back.
I'm in kind of the same boat. I've been using the Xperia tweaked Carbon ROM which is 4.2.2 and have yet to see a real compelling reason to move from it. My desire to constantly flash something and try new roms is outweighed by my desire to have a stable, useful device.
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Thanks.
"My desire to constantly flash something and try new roms is outweighed by my desire to have a stable, useful device." Could not have phrased it better myself. Have definitely reached the point where experimenting, rooting, fully transforming, etc. no longer works as its own stimulant in the face of a very stable, reliable, eMMc conversion that works the way I (currently) need it to. Now if Amazon would bring out an 8.9 inch version of the DX that I have with a touchscreen and back light...hmm!
I started with various CM11 nightly builds, then "downgraded" to CM10.2 and now am happier. Various apps I had problems with are now working. I miss a few minor things like no transparent status bar and soft buttons not hiding in some apps, but I prefer the stability. I may try CM11 later at some point.
Hmm... Your mileage may vary...
I have been upgrading my Nook HD+ steadily until verygreen's 1/18 build of CM11. I have installed the pa_gapps-modular-full-4.4.2-20140111-signed gapps package. I have access to just about everything I need on the Google Play store, Amazon Store, 1mobile store. It is solid. Doesn't reboot without reason. And except for a couple of non-standard apps, everything runs smooth and good. I couldn't be happier with this version of KitKat and I like it a lot better than JellyBean, and my battery life is very good, even when running intensive games or using WiFi heavily.
Is there a real reason to upgrade? That is a personal preference. I would say yes, as my experience has been so good. Even the upgrade process was fairly painless using verygreen's instructions. Just had to load a new CWM, reboot into it and flash the new rom and gapps and I was on my way. Fair to say, I haven't been upgrading to every new nightly that comes out. Viewing the changelogs, I don't see any obvious reason to do so, and so I am waiting for any changes that verygreen deems necessary to flash.
That's my two-pence worth of opinion. I hope that helps alleviate any fears you might have for upgrading.
Thanks to all for your replies and comments. Looks like I will stay put with 10.1/4.2.2 for the time being as all is "really" well!
Hello,
I guess I this is going to be another cheesy 'which one is the best ROM' but not really The Nook HD+ has it in its concept to be barebone - I love the fact that it doesn't have a camera or GPS, but just a nice display for reading colourful books and magazines. I am almost about to say that I don't care about youtube and facebook too P
So here is the question - my intention is to read PDFs with pictures, books, magazines. I don't care if I run kitkat or lollipop or JB or HC on it... the only thing that matters is that it runs my reading apps as smooth as possible. - Which version and ROM can offer that? I already noticed on youtube that 10.2 ROMs run much smoother than CM11...
Thank you folks
Unless those videos are based off of [cm11] m12 they're void.
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Unless those videos are based off of [cm11] m12 they're void.
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what do you mean?
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I think he means the videos you saw may be early builds and he now thinks M11 is now faster. But I like CM10.1.3. It is fast and stable. If you look in the dev section there are pared down versions of CM that I know nothing about.
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Pretty much =) The M12 version of CM11 was smoother and better [for me] than any other cm11 build before it. Which should make videos of earlier builds invalid. They would need to be based off the latest builds for a true represenation of cm11 today.
I don't watch many videos but Chrome doesn't work well for me on my HD with CM11M12. It closes and sends me back to my home screen at random quite frequently. When I restart it it is on the webpage I left but it's quite annoying.
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I'm trying to figure out if I should keep this tablet (it's on the way), because I don't know if I can deal with any (extreme or consistent) lagginess after having newer devices. Are you able to go from flagships like snapdragon 8xx's or ipads to this device without getting annoyed with its performance? I decided on getting this because it is certainly the best 9 in tablet for the money. I've had many 7-8in tablets with very good specs, but no larger tablets like this, and I cannot afford to spend that much.
Also, I'd appreciate if someone could make a youtube video with a good version of lollipop running on it to demonstrate how it performs. I know there are videos on older CM version, but there are none with lollipop.
Let's put it this way, the nook is not a galaxy tab s... and never will be.
Those that expect tab s performance will be disappointed...
That said, I think we're finally getting some, more or less, stable ROMs.
At this point the nook is considered to be dated technology.
I expect to upgrade to something better in a year or two myself.
Though I do still love my nook.
I installed 10.2.1, and my browser crashes constantly. I am going to try some other ROMS, but this device can be VERY frustrating for web browsing.
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edit: with custom roms of course
I'm trying to figure out if I should keep this tablet (it's on the way), because I don't know if I can deal with any (extreme or consistent) lagginess after having newer devices. Are you able to go from flagships like snapdragon 8xx's or ipads to this device without getting annoyed with its performance? I decided on getting this because it is certainly the best 9 in tablet for the money. I've had many 7-8in tablets with very good specs, but no larger tablets like this, and I cannot afford to spend that much.
Also, I'd appreciate if someone could make a youtube video with a good version of lollipop running on it to demonstrate how it performs. I know there are videos on older CM version, but there are none with lollipop.
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I installed Jon's latest kernel and was pretty impressed. However, between the low memory and slow cpu, it's too hard downgrading for the sake of a 9 inch screen. I currently have a Lenovo s8-50 and it wasn't too much more than this refurbished Nook at $150. If I ended up buying this a couple years ago, I'd probably be satisfied with how far it's come.
woneil said:
I installed 10.2.1, and my browser crashes constantly. I am going to try some other ROMS, but this device can be VERY frustrating for web browsing.
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You should try Jon's yellow kernel. Chrome was working quite well for me.
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I installed Jon's latest kernel and was pretty impressed. However, between the low memory and slow cpu, it's too hard downgrading for the sake of a 9 inch screen. I currently have a Lenovo s8-50 and it wasn't too much more than this refurbished Nook at $150. If I ended up buying this a couple years ago, I'd probably be satisfied with how far its come.
You should try Jon's yellow kernel. Chrome was working quite well for me.
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I just installed CM11, and am testing it for my needs right now.
I installed a CM11 nightly. Still having occasional browser crashes and lagginess of back and N buttons. I did not install java or flash as suggested by kokercy, and that seems to improve browser stability. Desdpite its problems, CM11 still seems better than stock, to me.
I have a stock HD+ and have been considering trying the CM 11 rom. After reading some posts, it seems like it might be better to just stick with the stock rom. If anyone has any advice in this regard, I'd really appreciate it.
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I have a stock HD+ and have been considering trying the CM 11 rom. After reading some posts, it seems like it might be better to just stick with the stock rom. If anyone has any advice in this regard, I'd really appreciate it.
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I endured frequent browser crashes on CM11, but CM12 has been more stable, surprising to say. Not 100% bug-free, but certainly less aggravating.
m4p said:
I have a stock HD+ and have been considering trying the CM 11 rom. After reading some posts, it seems like it might be better to just stick with the stock rom. If anyone has any advice in this regard, I'd really appreciate it.
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I highly recommend flashing CM 11 or 12. Compared to stock, it is miles ahead imo. You get a fully open android tablet, fully customizable, no BN bloatware that you will never use. I could go on but I have noticed a significant improvement in speed and battery life plus I have always been a fan of open, customizable software.
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I highly recommend flashing CM 11 or 12. Compared to stock, it is miles ahead imo. You get a fully open android tablet, fully customizable, no BN bloatware that you will never use. I could go on but I have noticed a significant improvement in speed and battery life plus I have always been a fan of open, customizable software.
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Thanks very much for the reply. The battery life on mine is terrible, so if battery life could be improved, sounds like flashing is in order. I have another question, I've read through the threads on SD cards and what is best, but those threads are now sort of old. So just wondering for this tablet, any input on which would work better, Class 4 or Class 10?
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Thanks very much for the reply. The battery life on mine is terrible, so if battery life could be improved, sounds like flashing is in order. I have another question, I've read through the threads on SD cards and what is best, but those threads are now sort of old. So just wondering for this tablet, any input on which would work better, Class 4 or Class 10?
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The class of the card only matters if you want to run the ROM from the SD. That is not done much anymore, most run the ROM on internal memory. If that is the case and you only use the SD for media files, class does not matter. However, if you do want to run the ROM from SD, class 4 is still better.
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The class of the card only matters if you want to run the ROM from the SD. That is not done much anymore, most run the ROM on internal memory. If that is the case and you only use the SD for media files, class does not matter. However, if you do want to run the ROM from SD, class 4 is still better.
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Class 4 has been better in my experience. Getting the nook hd+ to boot from the SD card to install recovery worked better at least.
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The class of the card only matters if you want to run the ROM from the SD. That is not done much anymore, most run the ROM on internal memory. If that is the case and you only use the SD for media files, class does not matter. However, if you do want to run the ROM from SD, class 4 is still better.
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Thanks, Leapinlar, much appreciated. I'm going to flash it so it runs off the internal memory and then use the SD for media files. I have a Sandisk 32gb 10 class card in there now using for storage.