[Q] Would this help cm Android 4.4 development for Nook ? - Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was going through the Kindle fire android development forum and I found a new Kit Kat rom posted over there.
As per my understanding, the main hurdle in Kit Kat development for Nook HD and HD+ is the availability of TI OMAP drivers. (correct me if I am wrong)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543481
Would ^ help development of a Kit Kat based rom for our Nooks ?
Or am I being too optimistic.
I would love to hear what others think about that.

It depends on whether our great developer @verygreen has the time to work on it or not.
Anyway, I am very happy with cm10.2 right now. Everything is fast and smooth. Wifi has been fixed. Trim issue finally settled down.
But more rom would be better

laofan said:
It depends on whether our great developer @verygreen has the time to work on it or not.
Anyway, I am very happy with cm10.2 right now. Everything is fast and smooth. Wifi has been fixed. Trim issue finally settled down.
But more rom would be better
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Yup. CM 10 is smooth and stable enough, thanks to the developers here !!
However, it would be nice to have the features of Kitkat on our nooks which would make it lag free ( as per the advertising !! )
This is a bit out of place, but, you mentioned that the trim issue has been settled. Has it been settled for the nooks that have a faulty memory controller as well ?
I looked through the forums but couldn't find a reliable solution to the problem. Could you direct me to the correct thread ?

chrono_trigger said:
Yup. CM 10 is smooth and stable enough, thanks to the developers here !!
However, it would be nice to have the features of Kitkat on our nooks which would make it lag free ( as per the advertising !! )
This is a bit out of place, but, you mentioned that the trim issue has been settled. Has it been settled for the nooks that have a faulty memory controller as well ?
I looked through the forums but couldn't find a reliable solution to the problem. Could you direct me to the correct thread ?
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No if you have a device with faulty memory don't run trim. A few people are doing it but until hey have done it for several months there is not enough data to say this is fixed. If you have plenty of money or an extended warranty feel free to try it out otherwise you could lose your device.

jpisini is Correct.
@chrono_trigger you need to find out if your nook has the faulty chip.
Here is the thread you could read
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2528009
If you have time, read the Cm10.2 thread.. The 05 chip is a faulty one.
if you happen to have the faulty one, do not run trim. I have a 06 chip but I don't run trim or flash trim kernel by myself.
Because my device is fast enough and I could not tell there is any bad lag in daily usage.
If you experience very bad lags wit your nook HD+, you could do a backup, run into CWM and restore the backup. Some people suggest it could be a good alternative to go

@jpisini Yes, I do have the Nook HD+ with the faulty emmc. I run trim only once in a while by flashing CM 10.2 with the lagfix kernel now. I have decided not to migrate to CM 10.2 now since I am pretty happy with CM 10.1.3.
@laofan I would be happy to help in CM 11 development for Nook in anyway I can. I have never developed a rom on my own before. However, I am sure it would be a great learning experience, regardless of its outcome.
Thank you for your replies !!!

laofan said:
It depends on whether our great developer @verygreen has the time to work on it or not.
Anyway, I am very happy with cm10.2 right now. Everything is fast and smooth. Wifi has been fixed. Trim issue finally settled down.
But more rom would be better
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To my experience KitKat is possibly the greatest move Google ever did towards better performance. 4.3/CM10.2 supposed to be such a move too, but KitKat (4.4) does not compare it's many time better/faster. Wherever I have installed it (in old devices of mine I mean) it almost universally solved the memory issues for the most part finally making the devices usable (I even have one with less than 300 megs total running great with Kitkat, before it was a lagfest, or shall I say a freakshow).
Our Nooks suffer from low memory (among other things), as long as OMAP chips are bad overclockers we're not going to get more performance out of hardware at least we can get it though software and in all honesty I can't wait for 4.4 to come to our devices, it's one of the slowest 2012 (relatively) high profile devices (our nooks) sadly, kitkat may change this. It can't come any sooner me thinks...

Stevethegreat said:
To my experience KitKat is possibly the greatest move Google ever did towards better performance. 4.3/CM10.2 supposed to be such a move too, but KitKat (4.4) does not compare it's many time better/faster. Wherever I have installed it (in old devices of mine I mean) it almost universally solved the memory issues for the most part finally making the devices usable (I even have one with less than 300 megs total running great with Kitkat, before it was a lagfest, or shall I say a freakshow).
Our Nooks suffer from low memory (among other things), as long as OMAP chips are bad overclockers we're not going to get more performance out of hardware at least we can get it though software and in all honesty I can't wait for 4.4 to come to our devices, it's one of the slowest 2012 (relatively) high profile devices (our nooks) sadly, kitkat may change this. It can't come any sooner me thinks...
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cm10.2 is coming to the stable version soon. cm11 is not far away. I am as excited as you are!
let's see more creativity

Yes, Cm 10.2 stable release is just round the corner.
Cyanogenmod is almost lag-free. However, I do experience some lag in scrolling in applications like playstore and soundcloud etc. Would a Kit kat upgrade make the applications lag free as well ?

chrono_trigger said:
Yes, Cm 10.2 stable release is just round the corner.
Cyanogenmod is almost lag-free. However, I do experience some lag in scrolling in applications like playstore and soundcloud etc. Would a Kit kat upgrade make the applications lag free as well ?
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I think so.
For now maybe you could try different settings in I/O scheduler and Processor( in Performance settings)
I set cpu governer tointeractive, with frequency 800~1500
I/O is deadline

laofan said:
I think so.
For now maybe you could try different settings in I/O scheduler and Processor( in Performance settings)
I set cpu governer tointeractive, with frequency 800~1500
I/O is deadline
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Thanks for the tip !! It does make my Nook function smmothly in general. However, the lag in the mentioned applications is still present. Perhaps that has something to do with the applications themselves.
However, what is the impact of setting the minimum frequency at 800 Mhz on the battery backup ?

@chrono_trigger
maybe it would consume more battery drain on 800 than lower ones, but I could hardly notice it on my device.
I usually charge it over night, while most of the time it could last two days with medium usage.
You could also try turn down your screen brightness , and if not in use turn off wifi. They are using much mooooooooore battery then the 800 cpu.

All right !!

I also would love 4.4 on the nook HD to go with my nexus 5. I've been spoiled now and may dump it for a nexus 7 otherwise...
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reignlight said:
I also would love 4.4 on the nook HD to go with my nexus 5. I've been spoiled now and may dump it for a nexus 7 otherwise...
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Oh, I'm pretty sure we will have it. Verygreen just has to get some free time from his job to devote to it.
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leapinlar said:
Oh, I'm pretty sure we will have it. Verygreen just has to get some free time from his job to devote to it.
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I can hardly wait! I've got KK on my Atrix HD and it finally made it usable memory wise. I need the same on my Nook, lag pisses me off to no end and I want immersive mode with this beautiful screen. Immersive mode is probably my favorite feature.

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Has development for nook color stopped?

I can't find a dev thread that has been updated for a while.. I know cm7 still gets worked on, but with such stable builds of gingerbread and so many people with a nook color, I would think there would be some sort of custom roms still in development.
I know plenty of other devices that don't have anything but gingerbread, and they still have plenty of customized roms kernels and tweaks coming out. Have the devs moved on to newer, bigger, better devices?
I want a new phone, some phones coming out offer features I think will make them worth the investment, but no tablet that is out offers enough where I would dump my nook.. but part of what I want in any device is to squeeze out everything you can. The og Droid is still being pushed to limits, and I see this device in the same category. Worthy of being pushed far beyond anything before it.
I read at article about the nook color 2 coming out this month, whether it is true or not isn't the issue.. I'm just trying to figure out if people have given up on this one. Since I doubt that the NC2 will allow customization like this one has, I hope people here will again decide the device is worth pushing..
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Cm7 is updated nightly. Gingerbread is as far as we can go because google will not release the source code. Once ICS is released we will get a port of that.
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Silentbtdeadly said:
I can't find a dev thread that has been updated for a while.. I know cm7 still gets worked on, but with such stable builds of gingerbread and so many people with a nook color, I would think there would be some sort of custom roms still in development.
I know plenty of other devices that don't have anything but gingerbread, and they still have plenty of customized roms kernels and tweaks coming out. Have the devs moved on to newer, bigger, better devices?
I want a new phone, some phones coming out offer features I think will make them worth the investment, but no tablet that is out offers enough where I would dump my nook.. but part of what I want in any device is to squeeze out everything you can. The og Droid is still being pushed to limits, and I see this device in the same category. Worthy of being pushed far beyond anything before it.
I read at article about the nook color 2 coming out this month, whether it is true or not isn't the issue.. I'm just trying to figure out if people have given up on this one. Since I doubt that the NC2 will allow customization like this one has, I hope people here will again decide the device is worth pushing..
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The NC was so easy to root and so ultimately capable that the Devs are basically "done" with it. I mean honestly what more do you think they can do? It already does everything that the device is capable of. Anything left is just minor stuff, the tablet itself is simply perfect(or as perfect as it can be with the hardware it has). I feel like that, more than anything, is probably why there are fewer updates now.
Landara said:
The NC was so easy to root and so ultimately capable that the Devs are basically "done" with it. I mean honestly what more do you think they can do? It already does everything that the device is capable of. Anything left is just minor stuff, the tablet itself is simply perfect(or as perfect as it can be with the hardware it has). I feel like that, more than anything, is probably why there are fewer updates now.
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I'm already perfectly satisfied with mine but I'm still holding out hope that they might be able to eek out better video performance somehow.
I hope Nook Color 2 will be lighter in weight than the current version. I wish BNN can bump the hardware specs without adjusting the price for the next version
henhowc said:
I'm already perfectly satisfied with mine but I'm still holding out hope that they might be able to eek out better video performance somehow.
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We are limited to the capabilities of the hardware. Any other development must be in software. We already reached the near limits on both.
I'm sure that people are hard at work getting CM7 etc on other platforms (HP Touchpad) at the moment. When Ice Cream Sandwich is released, I'm sure that the NC will be in the loop for CM8.
Landara said:
The NC was so easy to root and so ultimately capable that the Devs are basically "done" with it. I mean honestly what more do you think they can do? It already does everything that the device is capable of. Anything left is just minor stuff, the tablet itself is simply perfect(or as perfect as it can be with the hardware it has). I feel like that, more than anything, is probably why there are fewer updates now.
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Most other devices are in a similar place, where they have gingerbread working as fully as possible, but that doesn't mean there isn't more they could do to make it awesome. Custom apps, different tweaks, changing the default ui in some way.. I don't see these other devices getting totally abandoned as if there is nothing more they could do. Cm7 is far from the best custom experience, it is simply the latest stable os.
Miui, with all of its flaws IMO(I like everything but the iPhone ish launcher), is certainly a better platform in some ways, but cm7 also has its own perks. If I saw a ron that combined the best features of both then I would say there isn't much left to do besides customize it..
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I am still holding out hope for movement on running non-Android OS natively, such as Ubuntu or Meebo. Still a pretty wide open pasture on that front.
With the impending release of ics
I would imagine people's enthusiasm for gingerbread has waned.
Also dedicated tablets are cheap and more functional. I only use my Nc as a dedicated reader and use my tablet for web surfing and such.
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8 GB is a little in the low end to run most Linux distros these days.
Also I think you can make a Meego micro sd card.
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SCrid2000 said:
8 GB is a little in the low end to run most Linux distros these days.
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Oh? My Kubuntu setup fits neatly within 5 GiB. Debian would use even less space.
inportb said:
Oh? My Kubuntu setup fits neatly within 5 GiB. Debian would use even less space.
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I didn't say it wouldn't fit, I said it's a little on the low end.
BTW, for Kubuntu:
Required Recommended
Processor 1 GHz (x86) Better than 1 GHz (x86)
Memory 384 MB 1 GB
Hard drive capacity 4 GB[33] 10 GB[33]
Video card VGA @ 640x480 VGA @ 1024x768
And Fedora:
Minimum system requirements
6GB free disk space
2GB of RAM.
And Ubuntu:
1 GHz x86 processor (Pentium 4 or better)
512 MiB of system memory (RAM)
5 GB of hard-drive space
Graphics card and monitor capable of 800x600
Either a CD/DVD drive or a USB port (or both)
So yeah, it'll fit, but it's still on the low end if you want a graphical interface.

[Q] Nook HD+ best rom for me, help!

I'm new to this but I understand the root & flash process.
I just need some help selecting & locating a rom for my nook hd.
I don't like the Barnes & noble os as it seems a little laggy.
Therefore I'd like to replace if with a proper android rom but I get confused with what the difference between stock & cm10 is.
I just want a stable android rom that's fast for browsing & will play netflix well.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
Stock ROM is the default Barnes & Noble operating system, the one you're using now. The term "stock" is used to describe this ROM, as it's the default ROM that comes installed with the Nook.
There are other ROMs available, so that you can customise your Nook. The one I would recommend, so that you can comfortably just use Android on a daily basis without worrying about anything else is CyanogenMod 10.1.3 (stable). This is a stable ROM, and ready for daily use without worrying about anything else. That's CyanogenMod (CM) 10.1.3. Do NOT install CyanogenMod 10.2, as this is a nightly version and not ready for daily use. You can install CM10.2 if you desire, but don't expect it to be perfect; there may be few issues and problems here and there.
Installing CyanogenMod 10.1.3 runs Android version 4.2.2, so that's Jelly Bean. CM10.2 runs Android 4.3 (however, this isn't stable yet). Here's a beginners guide to installing CyanogenMod for your Nook: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500
All the best, if you require any assistance, feel free to reply back.
For what it's worth, performance on my Nook HD+ with CyanogenMod 10.1.3 is absolute garbage. 10x worse than stock B&N ROM, everything lags to hell and back. Even scrolling the damn app menu lags, and I'm constantly seeing "<Insert App Name Here> isn't responding. Do you want to close it?" Everything, even the system idle process. I don't know what to advise as there seems to be no general consensus as to what's the best ROM, everything's under development, the only ROM listed under Original Android Development (which I'm hoping is as close as possible to stock) doesn't work.
rpop said:
For what it's worth, performance on my Nook HD+ with CyanogenMod 10.1.3 is absolute garbage. 10x worse than stock B&N ROM, everything lags to hell and back. Even scrolling the damn app menu lags, and I'm constantly seeing "<Insert App Name Here> isn't responding. Do you want to close it?" Everything, even the system idle process. I don't know what to advise as there seems to be no general consensus as to what's the best ROM, everything's under development, the only ROM listed under Original Android Development (which I'm hoping is as close as possible to stock) doesn't work.
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My experience wasn't like that at all. While I wouldn't say it was blistering, it did seem on par or better than the Stock ROM. swiping was just a smidge laggy using Nova Prime.
I went on to Carbon and while it has a very nice feature set, it seems a good bit LAGGIER than the previous ROMs. I've been told that SlimBean runs nicely though, so I'm going to play with Carbon a little more but likely go on to that one when I decide to flash again.
I should expand a bit on my experience.
Performance was great the first half day, very speedy, better than stock ROM. By the end of the day it got a little slower than stock, a day or two later it was already pretty bad, noticeably slower, a week later absolutely terrible. It's as if performance degrades with time. I've tried reflashing it and now it sucks from the very beginning. If you find yourself trying CyanogenMod 10.1.3 stable and it still works great a week later, let me know--maybe I need to send mine in for a warranty swap.
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I should expand a bit on my experience.
Performance was great the first half day, very speedy, better than stock ROM. By the end of the day it got a little slower than stock, a day or two later it was already pretty bad, noticeably slower, a week later absolutely terrible. It's as if performance degrades with time. I've tried reflashing it and now it sucks from the very beginning. If you find yourself trying CyanogenMod 10.1.3 stable and it still works great a week later, let me know--maybe I need to send mine in for a warranty swap.
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Hi, I have been running 10.2 nightly for awhile now and have my tablet running several hours a day surfing Web, watching movies, reading, etc. and I have not had any of the lag or slowdown that you mention. I have had no random reboots or any trouble, I think it performs better than stock rom.
I am very happy with this setup.
So I hope this helps you some.
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rpop said:
I should expand a bit on my experience.
Performance was great the first half day, very speedy, better than stock ROM. By the end of the day it got a little slower than stock, a day or two later it was already pretty bad, noticeably slower, a week later absolutely terrible. It's as if performance degrades with time. I've tried reflashing it and now it sucks from the very beginning. If you find yourself trying CyanogenMod 10.1.3 stable and it still works great a week later, let me know--maybe I need to send mine in for a warranty swap.
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It is not CM10.1.3, it is your device being hit with the need for trim. Your stock would act the same way. Read in the CM10.2 thread.
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Oh my god, you're right! I have to admit I noticed the TRIM issue when I first installed CyanogenMod (hard to miss, it's at the top in big red letters ). I realized it's a perfect match for the performance degradation I'd been seeing, but I dismissed it as a possible cause out of a naive belief that there's no way a manufacturer could ship something that crippled. I thought surely it would have been caught during testing. I also didn't want to read a 100+ page thread to figure out exactly what the issue is when the search was broken. I've taken a few hours and caught up on the thread now... I guess if it looks like cheese, and smells like cheese... it's gotta be cheese.
I've got MAG2GA & 0x000015 memory chips, looks like my only option is to brick it and do a warranty swap I'm curious as to how the other people above reported good experiences; are you guys purposely installing builds with TRIM enabled because you know have good memory chips? Seems to me almost every ROM around here has it purposely disabled. Either that or you've barely used the internal flash memory.
I guess the first recommendation for Kido44 would be to figure out what kind of memory you have, so you know if you can install a kernel with TRIM enabled. The degradation in performance without it is so bad, I want to fling it at the wall. I guess it might not be noticeable right away for you if all you're planning on doing is some light web browsing and Netflix viewing, but you'll run into it at some point and weep. I suspect you're already getting there if the stock ROM is starting to lag a little bit.
As always, thanks to leapinlar for pointing me in the right direction
I've been happy with CM 10.1 for a while, ran really stable without any major hiccups, but the lag got so bad due to the lack of trim that I decided to take the plunge and risk installing 10.2 Milestone 1 with a trim-enabled kernel. I also have a bad emmc chip but I'm willing to risk it.
It's not what I'd recommend for everyone, but that's my experience.
episode96 said:
I've been happy with CM 10.1 for a while, ran really stable without any major hiccups, but the lag got so bad due to the lack of trim that I decided to take the plunge and risk installing 10.2 Milestone 1 with a trim-enabled kernel. I also have a bad emmc chip but I'm willing to risk it.
It's not what I'd recommend for everyone, but that's my experience.
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Carbon B11 + cm10.1.3 kernel has been working well on my HD+ for a while. It's almost as fast as the trimmed cm10.2 but without the fault risk.
jamus28 said:
Carbon B11 + cm10.1.3 kernel has been working well on my HD+ for a while. It's almost as fast as the trimmed cm10.2 but without the fault risk.
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Not sure I understand. Won't it get slow eventually because of the lack of trim?
Sure, but it was still usable after several weeks.
I like Slimrom for the most part and observedly better than CM 10.1.3 on my nook hd+. Seems faster and more responsive, and if you use Puffin browser, it seems like it's 2x faster compared to stock browser (that's just my imo, ymmv). Anyway, I've tested only 3 roms so far, slim, cm, and carbon, so my question is, are there any roms that you guys recommended on the hd+ that can maybe compare with slim? Slim doesn't seem to be officially supported.

[Q] When do we need to use the TRIM kernel?

I have been using cm 10.1 stable for about two month and just try cm10.2 M1 yesterday.
There are lost of discussion about trim issues in the cm 10.2 thread. But I still could not tell what is trim and whether we need a trim kernel?
There is a wiki CM page discuss about it:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/EMMC_Bugs
But I am not familiar about computing and even though I get my EMMC as:
MAG2GA
0x000015
06
11/2012
I still have not idea do I need to use the trim kernel or not.
Thank you very much
If you don't know what it is, then you should not be using it.
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laofan said:
I have been using cm 10.1 stable for about two month and just try cm10.2 M1 yesterday.
There are lost of discussion about trim issues in the cm 10.2 thread. But I still could not tell what is trim and whether we need a trim kernel?
There is a wiki CM page discuss about it:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/EMMC_Bugs
But I am not familiar about computing and even though I get my EMMC as:
MAG2GA
0x000015
06
11/2012
I still have not idea do I need to use the trim kernel or not.
Thank you very much
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Trim is a useful feature that speeds up your solid state drive and increase its life. However, when it was first introduced in August, a number of users reported their tablets being bricked by the trim feature. Verygreen then disabled trim altogether from the kernel. Since some users have safe emmc , the trim-enabled kernel has been reintroduced with some new safeguards. Your emmc is one of the faulty ones and can be bricked by this kernel so it is probably better to wait and see what others say about the new kernel before trying it yourself.
got it. Thanks. @excalibar001
I have tried the trim kernel and cm10.2 M1. so far so good.
But your advice and information does give me an alert and I think I would stay with the non-trim kernel. At least I did not see any noticable improvement after Trimfix.
laofan,
I am on 10.1.3 stable and got the notification about the 10.2 M1.
How did you go about your update? Was it from within 10.1.3 or via CWM and adding Gapps?
Are there any noticeable improvements?
Thanks!
excalibar001 said:
Trim is a useful feature that speeds up your solid state drive and increase its life. However, when it was first introduced in August, a number of users reported their tablets being bricked by the trim feature. Verygreen then disabled trim altogether from the kernel. Since some users have safe emmc , the trim-enabled kernel has been reintroduced with some new safeguards. Your emmc is one of the faulty ones and can be bricked by this kernel so it is probably better to wait and see what others say about the new kernel before trying it yourself.
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Hi, in the app eMMC check, it reports my 16gb HD+ as:
Type: MAG2GA
Date: 11/2012
FwRev: 0x06
It also says "Sane chip."
Does that mean if I were to ever use the trim feature on a custom ROM, my chip is safe? Or is it one of the faulty ones?
Also, I do not have any serious lag or stuttering on my HD+ using rooted stock. Navigation is slightly less smooth than on my Nook HD (also on tooted stock), but the difference is not significant to me nor is it like night and day. However, internal memory on my HD+ is only about 40% full. Will lag issues eventually crop up and are they dependent on how full internal memory is?
TIA.
metropolitans said:
Hi, in the app eMMC check, it reports my 16gb HD+ as:
Type: MAG2GA
Date: 11/2012
FwRev: 0x06
It also says "Sane chip."
Does that mean if I were to ever use the trim feature on a custom ROM, my chip is safe? Or is it one of the faulty ones?
Also, I do not have any serious lag or stuttering on my HD+ using rooted stock. Navigation is slightly less smooth than on my Nook HD (also on tooted stock), but the difference is not significant to me nor is it like night and day. However, internal memory on my HD+ is only about 40% full. Will lag issues eventually crop up and are they dependent on how full internal memory is?
TIA.
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Ignore the sane chip message. The app is for some other device and use it just to identify your chip. This particular chip has reported problems with the trim kernel. A few brave souls are currently trying the new trim kernel on this chip. If I were you, I would sit and wait to see if they would brick their devices or not.
josim said:
laofan,
I am on 10.1.3 stable and got the notification about the 10.2 M1.
How did you go about your update? Was it from within 10.1.3 or via CWM and adding Gapps?
Are there any noticeable improvements?
Thanks!
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You have to do it from CWM and install the new gapps as well. Recommended method is installing after a factory restore, but I dirty installed it on 10.1 and everything worked just fine.
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I just saw Trim for the first time a couple of hours ago.
I'm running the rooted stock ROM... 4.1.2 on a Note 2, N7100 with Perseus kernel.
I never saw it before and I know that it wasn't there yesterday and I said like... WTF is this doing on my phone until I did a couple of searches.
I still don't know how I got it.
excalibar001 said:
Ignore the sane chip message. The app is for some other device and use it just to identify your chip. This particular chip has reported problems with the trim kernel. A few brave souls are currently trying the new trim kernel on this chip. If I were you, I would sit and wait to see if they would brick their devices or not.
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Thanks.
I have no current issues with lag but I've only had my HD+ a couple of weeks now. If the issue crops up on the future, is there a fix for stock ROM? I am on 2.1.1 stock and currently prefer to stay on it. I assume Evergreen's trim fix is just for the CM custom ROMs? I took a look at the 10.2 thread and it appears that fix is working.
I've had my HD for a few months now and also see no significant lag issues. Is it possible B&N addressed the lag issue with their 2.1.1 firmware update?
rhyang said:
If you don't know what it is, then you should not be using it.
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I hope this isn't hypocritical and I'm really only saying this because you're a new-ish low-post user but the question that was asked was a very good question. Trim is valuable for anyone.
Ultimately what I'm saying is your comment added literally nothing of value.
Good question and thank you to the folks who answered; I was unclear on some of this stuff too.
brashmadcap said:
I hope this isn't hypocritical
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It is. I saw the OP's statement that he was 'new to computing' and didn't want to see him brick his device.
There really isn't anything in this thread that you can't glean from the 10.2 thread in Android development, not to mention just googling 'trim'. Some people just aren't willing to do their own research.
And I'm a low-post user with pride -- I have a full-time job and a life.
Cheers, and good luck to you.
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TBF though, this thread is the first time I've fully understood trim, & I've read all the 10.2 thread, there's just so much in there with so many people commenting & asking questions, most of whom are more advanced users, that it's hard to gather the basics easily, & I've experience with rooting & custom roms using my sgs2.
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Ignore the sane chip message. The app is for some other device and use it just to identify your chip. This particular chip has reported problems with the trim kernel. A few brave souls are currently trying the new trim kernel on this chip. If I were you, I would sit and wait to see if they would brick their devices or not.
You have to do it from CWM and install the new gapps as well. Recommended method is installing after a factory restore, but I dirty installed it on 10.1 and everything worked just fine.
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Thanks excalabar001!
Did CWM, a reset, gaaps and this thing is running smoother than ever!
Josim

How to get the most out of my Nook

Hey guys, been using cryogen on my nook for years now, and while I personally believe that it is much faster than stock, it always seems to eventually bog down, and run slow. While there might be an issue with apps or something else I'm doing wrong that keeps slowing down my nook that's not the MAIN purpose of this forum. I'm looking for the best build and settings to get the most out of my nook. Currently i'm running a recent nightly build with CM11, but was thinking about switching to snapshot for a more stable release. There are two things I want to know before doing this:
1. what is the fastest and most stable build available? I've heard in forums about a liquidsmooth build, slim builds, and obviously used nightlys but which is the best? Also CM10 or CM11 does it matter which?
2. What is the best settings for max performance? On nightly I can use the governor to up the CPU, and I know there's a ram setting, but what about the I/O scheduler? whats the optimal setting for this? Also whats the best map performance settings AND what is the best settings for performance/battery for when i'm not playing games but maybe just web browsing.
ONE FINAL NOTE:
There was a time where I enjoyed spending a week tweaking roms and trying to make experimental roms work but now I don't have time. SO what I'm looking for is a STABLE rom that doesn't need much tweaking and can simple be installed through CWM, and either the basic settings to max performance, or a third party program that will do it for me.
PS: these forums have been good to me these past years so I want to also shout out to everyone that contributes and say thank you.
Others may have differing opinions but I have tried all ROMs available and they all have their ups and downs. The nook hd + is a serviceable tablet and well worth what I paid for it but I have given up on the idea of finding a perfect configuration. My nook performs well enough at the moment to prevent my cheap nature from buying another tab.
That being said I am getting my son a nvidia shield tablet for Christmas so he will have to share
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Others may have differing opinions but I have tried all ROMs available and they all have their ups and downs. The nook hd + is a serviceable tablet and well worth what I paid for it but I have given up on the idea of finding a perfect configuration. My nook performs well enough at the moment to prevent my cheap nature from buying another tab.
That being said I am getting my son a nvidia shield tablet for Christmas so he will have to share
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I whole-heartedly agree with everything you said.
Except for the part about sharing your son's Christmas present. Good luck with that!
Better than nothing
Given that the first two reply were utterly useless I figured I would post what I have found so far. . . A rom called SlimKat is the fastest rom for the nook hd+ I personally have found. I was hoping that others would post USEFUL information to this forum reguarding other ROMS rather than just stating that the nook is limited (which everyone that owns one already knows hints why were are here in the first place). But if you too are looking for a fast rom try here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nook-hd/development/rom-dev-slimkat-4-4-4-build-8-1-t2894247/page6
I've yet to tweak it, so i'm not sure if there is a govenor on there or a way to improve how the RAM is used. And I still have no clue what an I/O scheduler does, but I didn't see one on this rom.
Useless, honest, whatever
Try mokee in original android development section. Nightlies are active, pretty stable , and it is interesting. Yes it is in Chinese at first but you can change language
I like slim kat but I get freezes when streaming videos for long periods.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761812
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Useless, honest, whatever
Try mokee in original android development section. Nightlies are active, pretty stable , and it is interesting. Yes it is in Chinese at first but you can change language
I like slim kat but I get freezes when streaming videos for long periods.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761812
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That's probably fixed in the LiquidSmooth F2FS version (Pg. 5 of the LS thread), as it uses different PVR source. FWIW.
I actually find asking to be a moot point.
The roms will act differently according to your needs and uses. One rom may work well for someone and not well for another who's use of it constantly goes up against a bug or other problem. Or maybe you just won't like it.
Short story, just do a full recovery backup of what you currently use and then try the others. When you like one try it for a week. If you dislike it just restore the full backup of your choice - if you make full backups of each of them you can go back to any quite fast just the way you left it.
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The roms will act differently according to your needs and uses.
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And hardware (revisions). Take two identical tabs, install identical ROMs using identical methods, and get two different results. One crashes and reboots, the other never does. On a third the battery life suffers or the WifFi misbehaves.
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Short story, just do a full recovery backup of what you currently use and then try the others. When you like one try it for a week. If you dislike it just restore the full backup of your choice - if you make full backups of each of them you can go back to any quite fast just the way you left it.
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And of course, be prepared to restart and repeat the entire process. Because sooner or later you're going to install something that will sour the milk. Or you just like doing it because it's just so much fun!
jb0756: I've tried them all. The variables are staggering. It's amazing these things work as well as they do.
mcord11758 said it best. The HD+ is ... "serviceable."
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Or you just like doing it because it's just so much fun!
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If its not up your alley then don't go there. There are things in the ocean and a breeze in the air.

Best install for HD+ 4.3 too many versions for dummy

trying to install 4.3 or higher so new health watch will work. There is so many versions I am confused (which is easy to do) what IS CM 10.2 ? is this the version I need or do I need to use something else and what is the best version of Roms to use. I hope this is not too confusing if so it is because I am confused. Would some one please help me out.
cutting to the chase:
I need 4.3 or higher on my nook HD+.
Thanks
Retired
New age electronics a little fuzzy for me. The install for dummies has the cm11 file site closed.
Is there a newbie install guide for the most stable rom install ? Sorry if my terminology is incorrect. I would like to use a site that has all of the parts needed listed and can be down loaded. I need at least 4.3 or higher. As you can tell I am very new at this and would appreciate any help.
From reading yesterday it looks like cm 10.1.3 is the most stable or is there anew one on the scene.
Careful one
carefulone said:
New age electronics a little fuzzy for me. The install for dummies has the cm11 file site closed.
Is there a newbie install guide for the most stable rom install ? Sorry if my terminology is incorrect. I would like to use a site that has all of the parts needed listed and can be down loaded. I need at least 4.3 or higher. As you can tell I am very new at this and would appreciate any help.
From reading yesterday it looks like cm 10.1.3 is the most stable or is there anew one on the scene.
Careful one
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I still think cm10.1.3 is best.
What do you mean the install for dummies has cm11 file site closed? Do you mean my install for dummies thread? The links there still work.
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I see that you still prefer 10.1.3, leapinlar, just curious as to why. I mean I ask because I know 4.4 brings things that should be useful especially TRIM for our older NHD hardware which it should certainly benefit from. I just got an 8GB NHD (I have a 32GB microSD for expansion as well) from a pawn shop several hours ago for $10 (had 2.1 on it, then upgraded to 2.2.1 and it seems to work fine overall) and it's got no issues. My Wife and I communicate using YIM (Yahoo Instant Messenger) and that won't work on the NHD (it's a Yahoo issue, not the NHD) so we're migrating over to using Hangouts which is fine as well.
But now that we have two NHDs I can goof off with mine. She's had one for a few years that I get to play with on occasion, I put CM11 on it a long time ago and it's been fine but tonight I made a backup of mine after a complete de-registration (from the previous owner) so it was clean as a whistle, then I simply restored that backup to hers so now we have to "almost" factory-fresh 2.2.1 NHDs to work with.
I remember when we first got the NHD back in late 2013 the stock software was crap and laggy which is why I pushed CM on it as soon as I could (CM10, then later on CM11). Obviously I want to eek out the best performance I can from this device even in spite of the age so, again, I'm curious to why you prefer 10.1.3 - I'm at a point right now where I'd like to install a custom ROM since I can do more experimentation with my NHD that I just got for $10 than the Wife's, so I'm just "on the market" one could say to see what the options are.
I can't tolerate Lollipop so I won't be going anywhere near Android 5.x or CM12 for any reason; I prefer Android 4.4.x at this point but even after all this time CM still doesn't have a stable CM11 build and at this point I doubt it'll ever happen so, since 10.1.3 appears as a stable option I'm considering it.
I'm guessing you run your 10.1.3 from the eMMC and not SD card, but I don't think I've ever seen you say which way you do things. And just to ask: any issues on your NHD with 10.1.3 that you'd care to mention, anything at all? Everything runs smooth and great, etc? Do you use a custom kernel with any tweaks/governors/etc? If you can answer here, awesome, if not that's fine, perhaps the info is someplace buried in another thread which I need to look for.
You've got vastly more experience with the NHD than I do and your guides and your assistance with these devices (and the Nook Color and Tablet as well) are invaluable resources here so thanks for your continuing efforts.
I'm just looking to get the best performance/battery life/etc from this Nook HD, like most anyone I suppose, so any suggestions are very welcome, indeed.
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I see that you still prefer 10.1.3, leapinlar, just curious as to why. I mean I ask because I know 4.4 brings things that should be useful especially TRIM for our older NHD hardware which it should certainly benefit from. I just got an 8GB NHD (I have a 32GB microSD for expansion as well) from a pawn shop several hours ago for $10 (had 2.1 on it, then upgraded to 2.2.1 and it seems to work fine overall) and it's got no issues. My Wife and I communicate using YIM (Yahoo Instant Messenger) and that won't work on the NHD (it's a Yahoo issue, not the NHD) so we're migrating over to using Hangouts which is fine as well.
But now that we have two NHDs I can goof off with mine. She's had one for a few years that I get to play with on occasion, I put CM11 on it a long time ago and it's been fine but tonight I made a backup of mine after a complete de-registration (from the previous owner) so it was clean as a whistle, then I simply restored that backup to hers so now we have to "almost" factory-fresh 2.2.1 NHDs to work with.
I remember when we first got the NHD back in late 2013 the stock software was crap and laggy which is why I pushed CM on it as soon as I could (CM10, then later on CM11). Obviously I want to eek out the best performance I can from this device even in spite of the age so, again, I'm curious to why you prefer 10.1.3 - I'm at a point right now where I'd like to install a custom ROM since I can do more experimentation with my NHD that I just got for $10 than the Wife's, so I'm just "on the market" one could say to see what the options are.
I can't tolerate Lollipop so I won't be going anywhere near Android 5.x or CM12 for any reason; I prefer Android 4.4.x at this point but even after all this time CM still doesn't have a stable CM11 build and at this point I doubt it'll ever happen so, since 10.1.3 appears as a stable option I'm considering it.
I'm guessing you run your 10.1.3 from the eMMC and not SD card, but I don't think I've ever seen you say which way you do things. And just to ask: any issues on your NHD with 10.1.3 that you'd care to mention, anything at all? Everything runs smooth and great, etc? Do you use a custom kernel with any tweaks/governors/etc? If you can answer here, awesome, if not that's fine, perhaps the info is someplace buried in another thread which I need to look for.
You've got vastly more experience with the NHD than I do and your guides and your assistance with these devices (and the Nook Color and Tablet as well) are invaluable resources here so thanks for your continuing efforts.
I'm just looking to get the best performance/battery life/etc from this Nook HD, like most anyone I suppose, so any suggestions are very welcome, indeed.
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I prefer 10.1.3 because I have never had one issue with it. I tried 10.2 while it was still in nightlies and had issues so moved back. Now that 10.2.1 is stable it may be ok. I tried Jon Lee's 10.2 with the tweaked kernel and found it unstable.
And I do run from emmc, but have run from SD with no issues using a good SD.
I recommend against 11 for the HD+ for the very reason you tout it, TRIM. I have seen a lot of HD+ get bricked by TRIM even though the kernel is supposed to be fixed to prevent that. It is just certain models of HD+, others seem safe. I have not heard of any HD's getting bricked though.
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Just tried CM11 (the 8-13 Nightly) and was somewhat disappointed in some aspects; I have a bunch of content on the Google Play Movies & TV side of things and that app won't play any videos at all on CM11, not sure what the issue is and I'm not interested in bothering with it so I'm rolling back to pure stock 2.2.1 for the time being.
I most likely will give 10.1.3 a shot, it can't hurt I suppose and I figure it'll be pretty snappy all around.
Any idea if there are any custom kernels that might function on that (meaning 10.1.3) to allow for more options for tweaking things (governors and I/O, etc)? I'll do more research but for now as stated I'll stick with pure stock since it seems to work ok.
Thanks for the response...
br0adband said:
Just tried CM11 (the 8-13 Nightly) and was somewhat disappointed in some aspects; I have a bunch of content on the Google Play Movies & TV side of things and that app won't play any videos at all on CM11, not sure what the issue is and I'm not interested in bothering with it so I'm rolling back to pure stock 2.2.1 for the time being.
I most likely will give 10.1.3 a shot, it can't hurt I suppose and I figure it'll be pretty snappy all around.
Any idea if there are any custom kernels that might function on that (meaning 10.1.3) to allow for more options for tweaking things (governors and I/O, etc)? I'll do more research but for now as stated I'll stick with pure stock since it seems to work ok.
Thanks for the response...
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Yes, I think the yellow kernel by Jon Lee has a 10.1.3 version. But I found it unstable.
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I also need to know which ROM is best for 4.3+. I have an android wear watch I need to pair. Should I use cm 10.2 or 11? Which ROM of the better cm should I use? Much obliged for your help and assistance.
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