I recently bought an SP and I love it except for the ff problems i've encountered so far:
- Walkman app, stops playing after a while, specifically when I'm multitasking. Walkman + Instagram etc.
- Swiftkey Keyboard sometimes doesn't show. Needs to re enable at Language and Input section.
- Poor VGA front cam. (which I'm aware of, prior to buying this device, so it's ok)
Basically, upon researching, SP somehow have poor RAM management and kills apps when RAM is somehow low. I wish we could define apps that SP won't kill, and it'll be fine!
Yes ram management is really bad in SP.. Someone will say free RAM is waste RAM.. But thats not true in my experience.. If u have low ram means ur running apps will close automatically... So free ram is not waste ram at always
Just try to root ur SP and freez some unwanted apps
Can you unlock the bootloader? Try CyanogenMod
Yeah in cm based roms we get a ram of 841 mb and in stock based roms only 766mb
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I'm not talking about how much RAM does it say it has, Its about how it is managed.
Yep. CM based roms will giv better ram management and performance than Stock based rom.. If u dont care about the beauty of the Stock or stock based custom roms means try CM
Browsing heavy sites in xperia sp is Big pain specially when you will need keyboard It will never come up.
I am using greenify also but still problem happens
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ashis.kyal said:
Browsing heavy sites in xperia sp is Big pain specially when you will need keyboard It will never come up.
I am using greenify also but still problem happens
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The keyboard disappearing seems to be another bug Sony need to fix, as this happens even with the stock one, sometimes
Hope the 4.3 update fixes this and the lockscreen bug, plus better ram management
Regards
raziel123 said:
The keyboard disappearing seems to be another bug Sony need to fix, as this happens even with the stock one, sometimes
Hope the 4.3 update fixes this and the lockscreen bug, plus better ram management
Regards
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I think that the Ram management will be fixed only in 4.4 update kitkat as It is optimized For less Ram also.
And maybe wakeup bug will be fixed in coming 4.3
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It's funny that of all the apps that can be forced close, it chosed Walkman and Keyboard. I'm ok if they forced close Facebook and Chrome all they want but the first two. lol
ashis.kyal said:
I think that the Ram management will be fixed only in 4.4 update kitkat as It is optimized For less Ram also.
And maybe wakeup bug will be fixed in coming 4.3
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No, it can be fixed already in 4.3. This problem is not due to android version but to Sony developers mistakes. It seems they have forgotten to make some apps like keyboard or music unkillable. The problem never happens on any jelly bean Rom without Sony UI.
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It's funny that of all the apps that can be forced close, it chosed Walkman and Keyboard. I'm ok if they forced close Facebook and Chrome all they want but the first two. lol
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Actually they are force closed too but you don't really see it. Android kills background apps to free memory for foreground app. Music and keyboard are special apps that you also use when they are in background ( keyboard seems foreground but I think it's just an illusion, the real foreground app is the one you are writing in) and that's why we notice it and it's annoying.
You can notice that Facebook or chrome are also killed in background because when you switch app and come back to them they have to reload, they are not at the state they were when you left them (most of the time for heavy apps).
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I have been using stock Rom rooted jellybean for sometime. But one thing really annoy me. It's that,if I use screen filter,music player and browser together at the same time. It close the screen filter and music player after sometime browsing the web. Is this about ram issue? I have tried super charge the service jar to die hard..but the launcher still reload quite often ..any idea?
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Try delet blotware via titanium backup, because it seems to RAM problem....
Im now using walkman, facebook and gmail, and also writting this post via XDA app and noone is killed.
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Mind show me the list of bloatware?I'm still not familiar with Sony software since I came from htc.. Thought I only disable it in setting..like Twitter..
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Do you have root? Or better unlocked BL? Then you can install CWM and any.rom (there are many stockbased too with delered Blotware)
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Do you have root? Or better unlocked BL? Then you can install CWM and any.rom (there are many stockbased too with delered Blotware)
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I already stated that i have root....bl unlocked too.. I prefer stock...as it's the most stable of all..but not sure which bloatware to delete.. Is this cause by minfree values?
I have exactly the same problem. System kills many apps when I'm using them. And I have deleted all useless bloatware. I guess I will have to reflash stock JB... You should try the same.
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I already stated that i have root....bl unlocked too.. I prefer stock...as it's the most stable of all..but not sure which bloatware to delete.. Is this cause by minfree values?
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Yes, it's caused by lmk minfree values.
It looks like the pure stock fw is not so stable.
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Yes, it's caused by lmk minfree values.
It looks like the pure stock fw is not so stable.
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Or maybe it's a problem in adj value? I dun think stock value was that high..
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Both. Adj tells to lmk what kind of apps to kill and minfree tells when to kill. With our phone (800MB available), we are always out of memory. Settings/apps/running value is a joke. It only tells how much memory is available if you kill apps that can theoretically be killed.
Most of user apps are using adj around 8-12. With lmk values in stock fw, these are killed very often.
This is what I found. But this memory thing is much more complicated (heap size, overcommiting, garbage collector, and who knows what else).
And I think, when the memory is divided into 3 blocks like we have, it also cannot be good.
Because of that all, Z already has 2GB.
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Both. Adj tells to lmk what kind of apps to kill and minfree tells when to kill. With our phone (800MB available), we are always out of memory. Settings/apps/running value is a joke. It only tells how much memory is available if you kill apps that can theoretically be killed.
Most of user apps are using adj around 8-12. With lmk values in stock fw, these are killed very often.
This is what I found. But this memory thing is much more complicated (heap size, overcommiting, garbage collector, and who knows what else).
And I think, when the memory is divided into 3 blocks like we have, it also cannot be good.
Because of that all, Z already has 2GB.
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I saw the vm heapsize in my v was 256m and heapsize limit is 64m..so the only solution is change the minfree?
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I don't know about any other solution.
Use android tweaker(paid app) or pimp my rom beta(free) to set up better multitasking
After I supercharge the rom, I use die hard launcher... Then things turn out like this
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I dont own this device but i might pick one up soon however i would like to know weather the homescreen lag on xperia z still exists. Many reviewer complain about it but they are running old software versions i guess. So espacially after 4.2 update is there still any lag? And if yes how does it look like if you are running a custom kernel? I really hope there is a way to fix that because i dont want to see it.
I have not experienced any lags continuosly with my homescreen on 4.2.2, but sometimes it i see 1 minimal lag when playing with the homescreen for 2mins or so. compared to Samsung galaxy s4, that s4(my friends device) lags far more than my xperia on 4.2.2.
Yes there are kernels that can even improve the smoothness of the homescreens, but I would suggest you to try another launcher like novalauncher, that never lags at all!
Then it also depends on was apps are running in the background like Facebook etc
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I have not experienced any lags continuosly with my homescreen on 4.2.2, but sometimes it i see 1 minimal lag when playing with the homescreen for 2mins or so. compared to Samsung galaxy s4, that s4(my friends device) lags far more than my xperia on 4.2.2.
Yes there are kernels that can even improve the smoothness of the homescreens, but I would suggest you to try another launcher like novalauncher, that never lags at all!
Then it also depends on was apps are running in the background like Facebook etc
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Definitely less lags than 4.1.2 , super fast
Absolutely no lag when using new honami launcher. a little when using stock 4.2.2 launcher
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Just a simple poll to find out the general opinion of Xperia SP users here. Answer and leave any comments :highfive:
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Just a simple poll to find out the general opinion of Xperia SP users here. Answer and leave any comments :highfive:
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Will decide it after 4.3 update...but till now very satisfied with everything except the camera and wifi
The bad wifi range is very annoying also the broken auto brightness.
Hopefully 4.3 can bring improvements
It is a pretty good device seeing as I came from xperia arc which it had it's faults like low internal memory, small amount of ram.
For me the Sp had decent specs like all phones it has problems. Which phone don't? WiFi, camera, could be better, will see if new update fixed anything
satisfied except for the RAM issue.
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Being my first expensive smartphone i am satisfied with the phone expect following issues:
>CAmera
>Flat Surface touch Prob.
>RAM Management problem
ashis.kyal said:
Being my first expensive smartphone i am satisfied with the phone expect following issues:
>CAmera
>Flat Surface touch Prob.
>RAM Management problem
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Not my first phone but I agree
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Best phone I ever had I don't have any problems and my RAM management is good and the phone is very fast
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Everything awsome................ except wifi lux sensor. Camera n ram management......
Is the wifi dorp issues due to the aluminum frame?... Where is the antenna located on our devices???
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Rasik199 said:
Everything awsome................ except wifi lux sensor. Camera n ram management......
Is the wifi dorp issues due to the aluminum frame?... Where is the antenna located on our devices???
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Not facing any wifi drop problem after using Some fix mentioned in thread.
Btw root is needed
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Oh ok kinda hoping for the best with the new update..... If still not resolved will root n try the fix
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I am happy, altho there are some small bugs I can live with them
satisfied, but annoyed with:
bad camera (i seldom snap pics though)
bad ram management (walkman fc, keyboard fc, launcher redraws quite often)
touch screen sometimes loses sensitivity (leaving glove-mode switched on solves this, glove-mode doesn't need to be activated)
no led indicator in stamina mode (wth)
wifi seems weak (tbh i think it's fine, just the signal not showing true strength)
Highly Satisfied.
What I love:
-Impressive UI, It was my first Xperia Since I've been using Galaxy before. Xperia UI is MUCH better.
-Smoothness
-I love the LED illumination lights.. (But I wish it was like before that i can customize the color for some contacts even New Message or Unread.)
-Gaming Experience..
-Fast data connection..
-Good battery Life..
-Updates..
-And of Course Active Developers of this phone. )
Downsides but i can live with it:
-Camera.
-Wifi Range.
Overall.. I am Highy satisfied with my XSP C5303 experience. )
I'm stuck on deciding what to do next.
I'm having issues playing Injustice on my SP on the stock Rom. It randomly pauses or closes fully back to home while playing. I have 3 options I think; Do I tweak this Rom with supercharger script or something. Or do I install a custom Rom like eXistenZ and hope that performs better. Or do I just wait for official 4.3 update and then hope memory management is better?
What would you guys suggest? I'm still new to my Xperia SP.
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If I were you, I would wait for the android 4.3 and If the ram management sucks too I would go for cyanogenmod.
Go to CM 11, the best choice you have!
The thing that's putting me off CM is the loss of Sony stuff like stamina mode and im guessing no walkman and gallery light effects.
I like all the little gimmicks haha
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donk165 said:
The thing that's putting me off CM is the loss of Sony stuff like stamina mode and im guessing no walkman and gallery light effects.
I like all the little gimmicks haha
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thats the only reason i got a launcher instead
I think I'm going to try a script to maybe sort out memory management, and then when 4.3 comes, I'll remove the tweaks, relock bootloader and then install the new official update. When that will come is another story
Gonna keep watching the thread in general about the update
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I use miui and use all media apps from Sony with no bugs. Xda thanks
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Hello i have a problem with my phone.... it lags a bit.When in Chrome ,Facebook app or using Swiftkey keyboard and pretty much every app the phone is a bit laggy.
I used Usermon to track the cpu usage and i say some random spikes.
I do not know where these spikes and the lag come from ... is there any way to create a log of cpu usage per app ???
Thank you.
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Also my phone:
Crystal PA 4,4,2 Custom Rom
The kernel that came with the Rom
UBL
Rooted
Thanks again
Normal because Facebook, Chrome and the keyboard are pretty heavy applications to use..
Nothing to worry about
yeah but the thing is that never happened before despite having the phone loaded with apps...
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