Hello guys,
I just got my Chromecast, and not knowing about this forum and section before I got it, yes its updated and what not, so from what i have learned so far, my hands are tied for now.
I came recently from being an Apple user/abuser, and android is still new to me.
That said, im not a complete newb to using a pc.
Point of this thread is, I have chromecast, and since I am unable to play anything i want with my phone, i was looking to stream Show box, but as of now since Allcast isnt supported for Chromecast, that wont happen.
So i installed chrome browser and hit up veetle.com. That worked fine, for a few hours. Suddenly it started to disconnect, turns out, its because i have the streaming set to 720p, soon as i set it to 480p, not a single crash.
Why is this??
On a side note, if theres a way for me to stream from a player on my LG G2, dont hold back on teaching me, i am a newb as far as it goes for android.
Pierre3400 said:
So i installed chrome browser and hit up veetle.com. That worked fine, for a few hours. Suddenly it started to disconnect, turns out, its because i have the streaming set to 720p, soon as i set it to 480p, not a single crash.
Why is this??
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Do you have any other CPU- and/or network-based tasks that run automatically? For example automatic backup or the like?
Chrome browser tab casting is dependent on both network bandwidth and CPU power. Essentially what's happening is an image of what's on your tab is being taken, compressed, then sent over the network to Chromecast - all numerous times per-second. This can take a good amount of CPU horsepower, especially at higher resolutions. It also requires that your network not have much lag.
While YouTube and other content already exists and therefore can be cached-ahead (buffered), the stuff from your browser is essentially a "live" feed - so if the data doesn't reach the other end in a timely manner it'll cause problems. It's like if you were talking on the phone with someone and a few of your words cut out.
Lower resolutions are easier to compress (less CPU load) and also smaller data-wise resulting in less network load too.
bhiga said:
Do you have any other CPU- and/or network-based tasks that run automatically? For example automatic backup or the like?
Chrome browser tab casting is dependent on both network bandwidth and CPU power. Essentially what's happening is an image of what's on your tab is being taken, compressed, then sent over the network to Chromecast - all numerous times per-second. This can take a good amount of CPU horsepower, especially at higher resolutions. It also requires that your network not have much lag.
While YouTube and other content already exists and therefore can be cached-ahead (buffered), the stuff from your browser is essentially a "live" feed - so if the data doesn't reach the other end in a timely manner it'll cause problems. It's like if you were talking on the phone with someone and a few of your words cut out.
Lower resolutions are easier to compress (less CPU load) and also smaller data-wise resulting in less network load too.
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I understand what your saying, as far as CPU power, its a pretty must idle 4770K @ 4,4ghz, so CPU power is not an issue. Wasnt doing anything aprat from browsing at the time. The network is running 1gbps, no backups no nothing doing anything, only streaming from chrome.
Pierre3400 said:
I understand what your saying, as far as CPU power, its a pretty must idle 4770K @ 4,4ghz, so CPU power is not an issue. Wasnt doing anything aprat from browsing at the time. The network is running 1gbps, no backups no nothing doing anything, only streaming from chrome.
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Give it a try and watch Task Manager to see if one/more cores max out.
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How's it going guys... so I took all the time needed to learn how to root my G1 and I love the improvements with the look and speed. But I do have some issues:
- Before rooting, I used XiiLive or Radio Time to stream radio stations and now neither one will work. It'll play the audio for a few seconds and as soon as I go to the home screen or try to surf the net, it stops and doesnt reconnect or anything. I've tried wiping the phone and then reloading the ROM, but still nothing.. is there some kind of streaming audio issues with this ROM or something I can do/change in the settings?!?
- My phone is always running with about 20-30% of available RAM.. why?!
I thought rooting the phone would help this out??!
- Even though I have the Apps2sd enabled, I still only have about 40mb of internal memory available after rooting. All the apps I've installed (about 15 or so total) are on the card. I used to have about the same amount of MB when my phone wasnt rooted and I had about the same amount of apps.
- Before rooting, my browser used to always show me the websites with a moderate zoom and automatically fit the page to my screen by default. Well now, it has a faaaar zoom (even though I change the settings), and yeah it does fit in my screen, but only because its zoomed out so far?! What am I missing in the settings?!?
...So if anybody can help me out, I'd appreciate it.
Is it possible to change this from 15% to something like 3-5% since i feel that 15% is a little bit too early for the phone to shut off a lot of multimedia functions.. at 15% thats still close to 1hr+ of HD movie viewing..
I would love this one too
I hope someone has the answer to this question, very annoying setting!
There is currently no Settings option for that.
Incredibly Samsung has baked those limits in with no way for the user to change it, just like the 'OMG OMG I'm charged unplug me' notification you can't turn off.
The only way would be if someone dived into the Samsung source-code, figured out what the **** they did and undo that or create an entry in the Settings menu for it.
I'm planning to dive into it once the 2.2 source gets released to at least make it shut up about being fully charged but until then, you're stuck with the limits unless some custom ROM stripped those out somewhere and you can use that.
Still no solutions ?
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These stupid restrictions are built into Samsung's apps.
If you download alternate apps like mVideoPlayer for video playback and Camera 360 for photos, they will work right until the phone shuts down!
They are just bulls**t restrictions, no idea why they would do this.
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These stupid restrictions are built into Samsung's apps.
If you download alternate apps like mVideoPlayer for video playback and Camera 360 for photos, they will work right until the phone shuts down!
They are just bulls**t restrictions, no idea why they would do this.
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Got a solution for the camera app? I don't care about not being able to listen to music until I have found a place to charge my sgs, but not being able to take a picture even though there's enough juice left is just unacceptable!
This is a very good question. I hope someone find a solution for that.
hmm.. I never noticed that restriction before, Then again I del'ed all samsung apps and never use them. Just use 3rd party apps. Get camera 360 or one of the other ones on market and use that. For video recording you are stuffed. Thats the beauty of Android, Replace what you want
you could use setCPU if you're rooted but be warned, it causes a LOT of problems with stability. i'm sure they'll fix it eventually though. but if you're desperate for more power to the end then setCPU is the only way to go.
Normally I don't have a problem locating this kind of info, but for TP CM9 it eludes me. I found the link with the tech speak generated list. But I need the info to be a bit more plain english. And couldn't find a known issues list. I would like to check this info to see if I would like to try it out on my TP.
Thanks much.
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Normally I don't have a problem locating this kind of info, but for TP CM9 it eludes me. I found the link with the tech speak generated list. But I need the info to be a bit more plain english. And couldn't find a known issues list. I would like to check this info to see if I would like to try it out on my TP.
Thanks much.
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Known issues are basically the camera and mic don't work, some folks have wifi issues and some don't... and some have issues with the audio acting up when waking from sleep... I myself am happy to say I don't have wifi or audio issues... but camera and mic are driver issues that may never get to work. All in all very stable though
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If camera and mic are the only problems then I see no reason not to give it a shot. I don't know if I would ever use them.I was concerned that it was missing core functionality making it something one wouldn't use as a daily OS and only switch over to it for test scenarios and then switch back. I have cm9 on my Samsung epic (the one with hw kb). Would the current latest nightly be the one to go with?
Just curious, why are the camera and mic drivers so difficult? I would have thought having them running on WebOS was at least some of the work. I guess porting said work to Android is a completely different ballgame.
I wonder if the wifi/audio issues are still being worked on tho? Or are those of us with those stuck with em forever?
The big thing for me was hardware video decoding. Alpha 1 fixed that for YouTube, and alpha 2 finished the fix for Netflix and others.
If you haven't already, check out the thread at rootzwiki.
I was using webOS by choice until CM9 came out. I switched to CM9, and have been using it as my daily driver since the very first Alpha. I never video chat, but if I wanted to I know I can just boot webOS.
Don't let people here tell you CM9 (or the Kangs thereof) are unstable. Some people continue to spew that we don't have a stable version of android purely because its called an alpha. I don't think it will graduate past alpha without camera/mic support, and that may never happen. Right now, without trying, I am sitting at 587 hours of up time on my TouchPad. I can't think of a better word to use than "stable."
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Known Issues that I can think of. I know some were mentioned above, but all in one place is good.
Broken, NO FIX:
1) No Microphone
2) No Camera
Partial Workarounds:
1) Audio gets noisy with screen off. Kinda workaround: Turn volume down, only happens at higher volume levels. Or set screen timeout longer/always on while playing audio. No complete fix.
2) Wi-Fi dies or doesn't reconnect. Some people never have a problem, others do. Workarounds: First, set WiFi to always on so it doesn't turn off with the screen. Second, try changing the channel on your router, or if you have 2.4ghz/5ghz switchable, try using the other. If Wi-Fi still dies, toggle it off and back on.
3) Some people report that if the TouchPad fully discharges to 0% they have trouble getting Android to charge properly. Others report that if you reboot the device with it plugged in, sometimes it won't charge. I've experienced neither problem, but the best advice is, charge before the device shuts off fully, and unplug the charger/usb while booting.
Broken, but Completely Fixable:
1) Random crashes. Install CPU Master and raise minimum CPU speed to 384 or 416 depending on which works for you, and crashes go away. Also, don't overclock too much.
Setup Issues:
1) DPI is at 160dpi stock. This works for most things, except a few tablet apps and games will not work properly. Setting DPI to 120dpi fixes everything, but the display quality is not ideal. 132dpi is ideal, but breaks the market after a day or two. Most people use 160dpi or 120dpi.
2) The default launcher, Trebuchet, is NOT compatible with the 4:3 aspect ratio of the TouchPad's screen if you use any DPI other than 160. Why something so easily fixable has not been fixed escapes me, but you will quickly find you need a new launcher. Go Launcher HD is one of a few that are very friendly to the TouchPad.
App Issues (not really issues but you probably want to know)
1) A few apps really, really, really are picky about the screen size and just won't scale right. (see Trebuchet notes above). One example is Politico HD - it forces 16:9 aspect ratio and thus gets cut off. Some apps simply refuse to run. Contacting the developers rarely works. This is probably less than 1% of the apps on the market, however.
2) Some developers simply are too strict on app compatibility on the market, and whitelist only select devices. Getting compatibility from these guys is a longshot. Best option is to install on another device, grab the APK or use Titanium Backup to move the app to the TouchPad.
3) Some games (notably Gameloft is the worst) enforce device compatibility checks within the program itself and it will refuse to run unless you masquerade as an approved device by hacking your build.prop... which is not normally recommended.
Did I miss anything anyone?
My HD+ of late has become more and more sluggish and sometimes becomes unresponsive for a few seconds. It hangs when opening an app, a book or while browsing the web. I am using the updated stock 2.1. Checking the RAM, I was surprised to see free RAM as low as 80MB. Killing apps running in the background does not help much. The internal memory is only 40% full. I am at a loss to understand what is going on. Has anybody else noticed this ? Should I wipe it clean and start again ? My device is not rooted. Any advice regarding backing up would be helpful.
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I ran into this, but seemed to be due to going under 3gb of storage. The HD+ does not seem to like going under that.
maybe uninstall some questionable apps
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My HD+ of late has become more and more sluggish and sometimes becomes unresponsive for a few seconds. It hangs when opening an app, a book or while browsing the web. I am using the updated stock 2.1. Checking the RAM, I was surprised to see free RAM as low as 80MB. Killing apps running in the background does not help much. The internal memory is only 40% full. I am at a loss to understand what is going on. Has anybody else noticed this ? Should I wipe it clean and start again ? My device is not rooted. Any advice regarding backing up would be helpful.
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PeeAM
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I was having similar issue so I started looking at apps that weren't exactly Nook approved. I removed an HD wallpaper app and my Nook was healed.
cozumelstu said:
I was having similar issue so I started looking at apps that weren't exactly Nook approved. I removed an HD wallpaper app and my Nook was healed.
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Same, but for me it was my launcher (Apex). Try other ones out there.
I just saw lag on my swift key keyboard for the first time. I'm using apex too.
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I just saw lag on my swift key keyboard for the first time. I'm using apex too.
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I am using Nova launcher from day 1 and the performance has deteriorated over time, so I cannot blame it. It could be an app hogging the memory. I have to kill a lot of processes to make it functional. I routinely get the message about the program not responding irrespective of which app I have opened. Even the browser (chrome, ICS) just crashes.
So after booting up my new HD+ for the first time today, and letting it update to 2.1, it was extremely slow... Slower than my 600mhz HTC aria. I tried rebooting again and installing apex. i have google sync disabled.
Then I force stopped "Home" and cleared its data. The tablet runs better, even when using B&N Home launcher.
its still not as fast as the dual core should be. I wish there was a way to reduce or disable animations in developer options.
I may try CM10.1
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So after booting up my new HD+ for the first time today, and letting it update to 2.1, it was extremely slow... Slower than my 600mhz HTC aria. I tried rebooting again and installing apex. i have google sync disabled.
Then I force stopped "Home" and cleared its data. The tablet runs better, even when using B&N Home launcher.
its still not as fast as the dual core should be. I wish there was a way to reduce or disable animations in developer options.
I may try CM10.1
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I'll add my name to those seeing lag since the update to 2.1. I'll try this and see if I get improvment. Anyone have any idea why this might be happening?
My tablet is running at a more satisfactory speed since I froze/disabled a bunch of bn apps, ditched apex, and use lightning launcher/zeam with full!screen. I also used spareparts+ to set animation transitions to fast.
Just don't make the mistake I made first of uninstalling twitter or chrome. All your hard work will reset.
I may make a symlinked build prop and play with this.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=40961
It worked on my htc one s with similar specs.
So I adjusted the heapgrowthlimit and heapsize.
The stock settings were at 96M and 160M respectively. I don't know what they were pre-2.1
I changed a symlinked buildprop to 64 and 384.
So it feels a bit snappier. Could be placebo, but it's definitely not slower. If anyone else tries adjusting these let me know what you think.
jamus28 said:
So I adjusted the heapgrowthlimit and heapsize.
The stock settings were at 96M and 160M respectively. I don't know what they were pre-2.1
I changed a symlinked buildprop to 64 and 384.
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I checked and found verygreen's CM10.1 rom (emmc) has 64 and 256. It is very snappy.
It's not apple to apple comparison as CM10.1 is based on Android 4.2.2.
I'm surprised stock has only 160M though.
The killer for me is the library sync process. I disabled the app, but it still does its thing. When a game or app slows down, it is when the sync starts. It is random, but should only be when the device is turned on, or when content is changed. The way they set it up makes no sense.
Restarting the device still shows the app disabled, but still syncs.
There also appears to be a lag that happens and is only fixed by a restart, but that is not as common as the sync issue.
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The killer for me is the library sync process. I disabled the app, but it still does its thing. When a game or app slows down, it is when the sync starts.
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That is one of the reasons that led me to replace the stock rom with CM10.1 on emmc. It is much better than the stock rom...
I really do not need that library having both Google Play and Amazon App store. I also have the Nook App which works just fine with CM10.1.
Even after clearing cashe and removing large data games, my HD+ was still acting sluggish. Based on the apps running in the background, no rogue apps seems to be causing it. No games beyond small ones were playing smooth and would randomly studder. Flash content also was making the device run very hot.
I boxed the HD+ up for return. Not sure what the issue is, but probably is 2.1, since the chipset should be fine. I might exchange for another and start from scratch with 10.1... Not sure at the moment. Were it not for the lag and odd heat issues, I would keep the device. Perhaps 10.1 is the answer, but
my return window ends soon.
I feel bad, since when I first got the device, it worked fine and doubted people that said the lag is there and common. They were right and I was wrong, so would be nice if 10.1 fixes the issues.
Added: Though my Excite 7.7 is a lot faster overall, I miss the HD+ display already.
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No games beyond small ones were playing smooth and would randomly studder. Flash content also was making the device run very hot.
Added: Though my Excite 7.7 is a lot faster overall, I miss the HD+ display already.
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I was able to play Dungeon Hunter 4 on CM10.1 and it seems to be okay. Web browsing is also very smooth. Flash does make it quite hot but same as my HTC Amaze Android phone so I'm used to it.
However, The HD+ is definitely not perfect, once in a long while (maybe like once in 2-3 days) the touch UI may become unresponsive.
That can be fixed by turning off and turning back on the display. Also I had screen flickering in settings screen(black background) under CM10.1 RC2. I have since flashed the latest RC4 and the flickering is gone. I have not tested it long enough to see if it still has the same UI problem.
Sorry for your bad experience. I am keeping the HD+ for myself but would not buy it for gifts because I know it has some issues that are not easy to fix without modification. And not everyone wants or has time to mod a tablet.
Update:
Just ran another Vellamo HTML5 benchmark and scored 1899 with CM10.1 RC4...very impressive.
On stock it was 1378 and I had 1379 on Nexus 7. Of course, benchmark may not be 100% indicative of daily operations.
Web browsing seems to be at least on par with Nexus 7, though. With the bigger screen it is definitely a more pleasant experience.
It seems that there is a big difference in benchmarks and actual performance, at least for some individual devices. I tried everything including CM10, orginal stock and the latest stock. Each time it would be fine initially and then gradually slow down to become unresponsive. I 'killed' processes, background apps frequently to make it usable but that ought not to be the way for regular use. I play no games except occasional spider solitaire. The main use was web browsing and reading books. I also have a samsung 7plus tab which did not suffer from any of these issues and became my go to device. So for now, its THANKS to the developers and goodbye Nook via ebay.
PeeAm
The 4470 for browser marks is faster than the Tegra 3. At least that is what Anandtech shows.
I took mine back to Best Buy, but do miss the display. Played MAME reloaded great. Seems any game that retrieves data on the fly has issues with stuttering with 2.1 at least. The reason I think this, is small games do not have the issue, nor does MAME which loads the games into memory to play. No on the fly data access.
Still tempted to get another and try 10.1 from the start. Even after a reset, 2.1 had the issues with games and other apps where my Excite 7.7 is smooth. In the Nooks defence, the TF300 is not real smooth either. A little better than the Nook HD+, but slower with MAME. Nook ruled with MAME.
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It seems that there is a big difference in benchmarks and actual performance, at least for some individual devices. I tried everything including CM10, orginal stock and the latest stock. PeeAm
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Just curious...did you try CM10 or 10.1. Also did you run it on SD card or emmc?
I didn't like CM10 at all and tried CM10.1 on SD card at first. The SD card performance simply sucks. It is only good for experiments not for any serious usage in my opinion. (Had poor benchmark results worse than stock, too.)
I tried CM10.1 RC2 and RC4 on emmc mainly for reading and web browsing. Both worked great.
Although I was able to play Dungeon Hunter 4, (from the start to boss fight) I believe I get a bit better frame rates on Nexus 7.
It's playable on Nook HD+ at reasonable frame rates but not super fast.(looks much better due to bigger screen)
I did not have any io issues likely because Dungeon Hunter 4 load all contents into memory up front in each area.
When I transition to a different area I did notice a temporary lag---must be from the loading of new data.
There is one trade-off with CM10.1 which is that the free gems supported by ads do not work.
I installed promotional apps but the gems never show up on the Nook HD+. That's not the case with Nexus 7.
I actually started using the Nook HD+ with CM10 on SD. The primary reason for buying it was the active developer community. I chose CM 10 over 10.1 as it was considered more stable than 10.1. Initial experience was great. However, I found that the the stock was better for battery life and for the sleep function with shutting the case. Then I updated the stock with the latest version and gradually the device became slower irrespective of using CM 10 or stock. I did not move to installing CM 10.1 on emmc as by then I had decided to sell the device. Again, not being a 'gamer' the great screen resolution and other specs was less important than battery life and responsiveness on browsing for the way I used the device. Like most things in life, I am sure there is a right 'one' for each one of us.
Battery life for what it was mainly intended (reading stuff and light apps) is great, but playing Flash and 3D games seems to be the main killer. Playing local video was good too. Since I am a gamer to some degree, the stutter from any game that loads data bugged me. No other Android device I have does this. The TF300 has issues with multitasking, but games do not stutter.
I think the issue is 2.1, but perhaps they cut corners with ram and flash speed? This would explain the stutter and the slooow load time for games like Asphalt 7. Even 108mb size pak files for Quake 2 loaded slowly. Almost ten times slower than my other devices. A few seconds or less on the other devices.
Hello there,
I recently got a Note 5 and I am coming from a iphone 5s. This is my first android device ever and I am trying to get used to it. Thus, I noticed a few things that bothered me a little bit. When I scroll down faster than usual in apps like facebook, shaman, play store, whatsapp emoji menu etc. I get a laggy/jittery behaviour. Some people mentioned browsing as well but I think samsung browser seems decent, I feel no lag after it completely loads the page. I dont wanna believe that this device cant handle even Facebook app, maybe its a network related problem (I am sitting on a 10-25mb internet depending on where I am). I feel an extremely small stutter when I switch between menus for the first time in simple apps like dialer. I just pop it, for example when I first go to contacts and favourites, it kinda stutters for an extremely short time. I am aware such concerns might sound stupid but I am really not sure how it is supposed to be. Next, I am getting about 5-6 hours of SOT battery life. Location is on (wifi and cellular), android device manager is off, NFC off, wifi is always on where I dont have to use mobile data. I noticed that android system is draining the highest amount just after Screen. Usage was mostly Whatsapp, some facebook, phone settings (since I am trying to figure out stuff), a little bit of gaming and twitch. Brightness is auto and at about %30. I also got a geekbench score of Single Core: 1450ish and Multi Core: 4500ish.
Finally, I wonder if these concerns are expected and possible to solve. I did some reading but unfortunately never had chance to come across to a clarifying explanations to all these things. I thank you in advance for your time taken and effort reading this.
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Hello there,
I recently got a Note 5 and I am coming from a iphone 5s. This is my first android device ever and I am trying to get used to it. Thus, I noticed a few things that bothered me a little bit. When I scroll down faster than usual in apps like facebook, shaman, play store, whatsapp emoji menu etc. I get a laggy/jittery behaviour. Some people mentioned browsing as well but I think samsung browser seems decent, I feel no lag after it completely loads the page. I dont wanna believe that this device cant handle even Facebook app, maybe its a network related problem (I am sitting on a 10-25mb internet depending on where I am). I feel an extremely small stutter when I switch between menus for the first time in simple apps like dialer. I just pop it, for example when I first go to contacts and favourites, it kinda stutters for an extremely short time. I am aware such concerns might sound stupid but I am really not sure how it is supposed to be. Next, I am getting about 5-6 hours of SOT battery life. Location is on (wifi and cellular), android device manager is off, NFC off, wifi is always on where I dont have to use mobile data. I noticed that android system is draining the highest amount just after Screen. Usage was mostly Whatsapp, some facebook, phone settings (since I am trying to figure out stuff), a little bit of gaming and twitch. Brightness is auto and at about %30. I also got a geekbench score of Single Core: 1450ish and Multi Core: 4500ish.
Finally, I wonder if these concerns are expected and possible to solve. I did some reading but unfortunately never had chance to come across to a clarifying explanations to all these things. I thank you in advance for your time taken and effort reading this.
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Being an ios and android user, what i can say is android can never(as of now) be as smooth as IOS. This is the truth as android is made to support all the variety of devices, however android users get more customisability more useful free apps and more control over the device they own. 5-6 hours of SOT is considered not bad, it really depends on personal usage i think it is acceptable, i guess the ability to see what your phone is using may be a good or bad thing. For what you know maybe on IOS the system actually drains as much or even more than android just that we are unable to view. hahaha :highfive: cheers not looking for flammers just my two cents.
Thanks for the input =) Hopefully this will be solved with a software update later. Still some confirmation/consultancy will be much appreciated, cheers