Whats the difference... my Verizon rep is providing pricing and options for the regular edition and the "Moto Maker Edition", but on the Motorola website all I see is the "Developer Edition" and in other news stories I see "Pure Edition"... whats the difference? Purely symantics for the same unlocked bootloader version of the Moto X 2014?
- BF
bkfitz said:
Whats the difference... my Verizon rep is providing pricing and options for the regular edition and the "Moto Maker Edition", but on the Motorola website all I see is the "Developer Edition" and in other news stories I see "Pure Edition"... whats the difference? Purely symantics for the same unlocked bootloader version of the Moto X 2014?
- BF
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Moto 2013 - dev edition had an unlockable bootloader. you could get a version for at&t/tmobile or for verizon
Moto 2014 - pure edition has an unlockable bootloader and no carrier branding or apps. you can only get this for at&t/tmobile at full retail price through motorola's moto maker, and you can customize the colors and storage
Moto maker - lets you customize the design of your moto x (2013 and 2014). can not be used on the 2013 dev editions
there's some confusion here because you can use moto maker to make a pure edition moto x. however the important thing to know on verizon is you have 2 options: a preconfigured color & storage straight from verizon, or a customized version through moto maker. however you cannot get a pure edition on verizon
bkfitz said:
Whats the difference... my Verizon rep is providing pricing and options for the regular edition and the "Moto Maker Edition", but on the Motorola website all I see is the "Developer Edition" and in other news stories I see "Pure Edition"... whats the difference? Purely symantics for the same unlocked bootloader version of the Moto X 2014?
- BF
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Moto Maker is the version where you get to customize it and select the colors you want. If you get this option and use either AT&T or VZW the bootloader will be locked down and not available to be unlocked unless someone comes up with a method to do so.
Pure Edition is a GSM only version (works on T-Mobile and AT&T) and it is sim unlocked as well as bootloader unlockable (the new GSM Dev edition)
Developer Edition is only available on the old Moto X, that was the version you have to pay full price for just like the current Pure, but the old Moto X had a VZW Dev Edition.
Excellent... thx. I guess I'll be getting the standard VZW one and then hoping "someone comes up with a method to do so"
BrokenWall said:
Moto Maker is the version where you get to customize it and select the colors you want. If you get this option and use either AT&T or VZW the bootloader will be locked down and not available to be unlocked unless someone comes up with a method to do so.
Pure Edition is a GSM only version (works on T-Mobile and AT&T) and it is sim unlocked as well as bootloader unlockable (the new GSM Dev edition)
Developer Edition is only available on the old Moto X, that was the version you have to pay full price for just like the current Pure, but the old Moto X had a VZW Dev Edition.
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Excellent... thx. I guess I'll be getting the standard VZW one and then hoping "someone comes up with a method to do so"
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As of right now, if you order a Verizon Moto X, you will be getting last years. They don't have an officially announced model yet (and I am speculating they could just release the new Droid (that looks really cool) and not an X).
My Verizon rep (we're Gov) definitely sent me pricing info on the "New Moto X - 5.2" etc... when I asked him yesterday AM he hadn't heard anything yet... but after doing some digging he was able to provide pricing etc this morning....
Note10.1Dude said:
As of right now, if you order a Verizon Moto X, you will be getting last years. They don't have an officially announced model yet (and I am speculating they could just release the new Droid (that looks really cool) and not an X).
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I'm a little bit confused. I want a moto x with all the moto apps like moto assist, voice control and active display. If I want to root the device and install xposed framework. Which one do I have to buy? I'm living in Germany and when I go to moto maker there is nothing I can't choose among different versions, except in storage size and colour.
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I'm a little bit confused. I want a moto x with all the moto apps like moto assist, voice control and active display. If I want to root the device and install xposed framework. Which one do I have to buy? I'm living in Germany and when I go to moto maker there is nothing I can't choose among different versions, except in storage size and colour.
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All of this model discussion is for US models. There should be just one EU model (that I am aware of) that should work with all common bands in the EU and have the software of the Pure edition. The issue here is the US mobile industry is a mess and controlled by the mobile networks, making moving between providers (or traveling out of the US) a pain in the neck.
Unless your on T-Mobile in which case you can go overseas no problem. Love T-Mobile!
Singapore Use
Hi,
I live in Singapore. I just wanted to check that the pure edition should work here if I can get it shipped to me?
I know the LTE is not working for now but it should work on HSPA+ I think.
Will it still get the updates from Motorola/Google or are those USA specific?
Thanks a lot.
Santino
This is probably a really stupid question forgive me. I'm in the market for a new phone. Is the Moto X on the Moto website the Pure edition? The site gives me the option for VZW. Is there a Pure version for VZW?
No. Although I read there was a way to use the pure edition on Verizon network if you switch the sim out with another Verizon phone with the same size sim. This might have been an article about the nexus 6, and I don't have Verizon so I can't confirm. The frequencies might be different.
Hello,
i am thinking to buy moto x dev edition form ebay as it available for cheap.
the ebay page of seller says its verizon XT1060 dev edition but then he adds GSM unlocked, i know for a fact that verizon devices are CDMA not GSM. please help.
other question is will i be able to install any rom from the forum in XT1060 or there are limitations. i had some bad experience with my htc one s (i had gotten the C2 variant instead of the original one with S4 ) if anyone wants to have a look at the ebay page here is the link
and ghost is the code name of moto x right ?
The phone should say Dev Edition on the back cover. Verizon does use CDMA, but the phones are GSM capable for world use. Once you unlock the bootloader, yes you can install other ROMs, but you may lose some of the core Moto X features like active display and touchless controls that are only available via stock firmware.
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Hello,
i am thinking to buy moto x dev edition form ebay as it available for cheap.
the ebay page of seller says its verizon XT1060 dev edition but then he adds GSM unlocked, i know for a fact that verizon devices are CDMA not GSM. please help.
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Verizon's LTE phones are SIM Unlocked and can be used with 3G/4G/LTE SIMS from GSM carriers. For example, I can put my T-Mobile USA SIM into my XT1060 Dev Edition for Verizon phone, and get T-Mobile service.
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other question is will i be able to install any rom from the forum in XT1060 or there are limitations. i had some bad experience with my htc one s (i had gotten the C2 variant instead of the original one with S4 ) if anyone wants to have a look at the ebay page here is the link
and ghost is the code name of moto x right ?
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The XT1060 does use CDMA, GSM and LTE radios. Its radio code or modem files are different from the other variants (like XT1053, XT1058,etc). So as long as the custom rom you are flashing doesn't include radios, OR tells you how to get your stock radios working, you should be fine.
The Verizon Dev Edition DOES have the verizon logo on the back too. In other words, that may be a "stock" dev edition photo, rather than the actual phone you're buying.
I have XT1053 and it is broken. I use it on AT&T and LTE support is important. It was on 4.2.2 and I never upgraded to 4.4 as it seemed all later versions just brought different problems and I never needed any new features. I haven't followed 5.1 too much but if it was any good there would not be threads here about downgrading, right?
My options are (I need to do something fast because I leave for vacation in Europe at the end of the month and would like to use phone there. I don't want anything larger than 5"):
1) Send it to Motorola and for $100 they will fix it. Probably just replace with refurb. But what version of Android will it come with? Does anyone know?
2) Get 2014 Moto X, but what version? It seems "Pure Edition" (XT1095) didn't support AT& LTE bands out of the box but they were upgraded later and that enabled it. Yet I found posts that AT&T IMEI database apparently doesn't list XT1095 as having these bands and phone doesn't connect to LTE on AT&T. One has to proved IMEI from another phone. My AT&T SIM is now associated with 1053, so maybe I would be OK?
has Lollipop upgrade on 2014 Moto X been as bad as it was on 2013?
3) Get XT1097 (AT&T version of Moto X 2014) - I don't like the fact that it only comes with 16GB of storage. Also, can it be rooted/bootloader/SIM unlocked?
4) Get some other phone and here I just don't know what to consider in 5" size because I haven't been following Android phones recently.
Feedback and answers appreciated.
You could wait for the new nexus.
Apparently a 5 inch nexus will be released.
Otherwise, you don't really have many options for 5 inch phone.
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I have XT1053 (Moto X 2013 Developer Edition GSM) and it is broken. I use it on AT&T and LTE support is important. It was on 4.2.2 and I never upgraded to 4.4 as it seemed all later versions just brought different problems and I never needed any new features. I haven't followed 5.1 too much but if it was any good there would not be threads here about downgrading on its forum, right?
My options are (I need to do something fast because I leave for vacation in Europe at the end of the month and would like to use phone there. I don't want anything larger than 5"):
1) Send it to Motorola and for $100 they will fix it. Probably just replace with refurb. But what version of Android will it come with? Does anyone know?
2) Get 2014 Moto X, but what version? It seems "Pure Edition" (XT1095) didn't support AT& LTE bands out of the box but they were upgraded later and that enabled it. Yet I found posts that AT&T IMEI database apparently doesn't list XT1095 as having these bands and phone doesn't connect to LTE on AT&T. One has to proved IMEI from another phone. My AT&T SIM is now associated with 1053, so maybe I would be OK? Has all this been officially rectified?
Has Lollipop upgrade on 2014 Moto X been as bad as it was on 2013?
3) Get XT1097 (AT&T version of Moto X 2014) - I don't like the fact that it only comes with 16GB of storage. Also, can it be rooted/bootloader/SIM unlocked?
4) Get some other phone and here I just don't know what to consider in 5" size because I haven't been following Android phones recently.
Feedback and answers appreciated.