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[Q] Moto X Developer Edition - Small CDMA Carrier

I am not certain if this is the correct forum for this but I'm going to throw it out there. I live in an area where "officially" the best carrier is a small local carrier. They recently partnered with Verizon to roll out LTE. I'd really love to get a Moto X Developer Edition, however I can't seen to find good information as to whether I would be able to simply plop in my local carriers SIM card into the phone and have it work.
I realize the APNs would need to be set, and ironically looking at the S4 I got from them, all the APNs appear to be "native" Verizon ones. So I guess my question is, does the carrier need to do anything else to activate the phone, or as long as my SIM is in the phone and working will the phone function? Thanks in advance for any information.

clcrawl said:
I am not certain if this is the correct forum for this but I'm going to throw it out there. I live in an area where "officially" the best carrier is a small local carrier. They recently partnered with Verizon to roll out LTE. I'd really love to get a Moto X Developer Edition, however I can't seen to find good information as to whether I would be able to simply plop in my local carriers SIM card into the phone and have it work.
I realize the APNs would need to be set, and ironically looking at the S4 I got from them, all the APNs appear to be "native" Verizon ones. So I guess my question is, does the carrier need to do anything else to activate the phone, or as long as my SIM is in the phone and working will the phone function? Thanks in advance for any information.
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I can't answer your question the way you would like it answered - but I can give you a glimmer of hope. I know when I was on the Note2 guys with VZW models could just pop in an AT&T sim and change apn"s and were good to go.
Hopefully someone with a little more experience will join in...

[Q] Moto X vs. Moto G: Which to Gift

Hi everyone,
I'm looking to gift a new smartphone to my wife this holiday. She is by no means an Android power-user. I'm debating between the X and the G (I snagged a discount code for the X). I know the spec rundown for both devices, but I'm not sure I can justify nearly double the cost for the X. I'm looking for input from people who may have used both devices. Which would you choose as a daily-driver for a non-techie and why?
Thanks.

I think a custom Moto X in her favorite color(s) would be awesome for her imo. And you will get LTE to boot. The Moto G doesn't have LTE to my knowledge correct?
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For a young kid a moto g but for your wife a moto x.

I don't think it's any contest on which is the far better phone. I would get the X with the discount code.
That's if she will actually use and enjoy a smartphone. If she's not going to make much use of it, of course the cheaper phone is the way to go - but she'll have a better experience on the Moto X.

My understanding, and granted, this is perhaps based on several week old information, was that the biggest difference between the X and the G was the lack of active notifications in the G. I'd say it depends on just how non techy savvy your wife is ... Personally, I'm eying the G as my mother's next phone, to ease her into a smart phone. If your wife has at least android experience, then would probably be wiser to go the route of the X.

There are a lot of differences between the X and the G. Active notifications is one. The G has no LTE, no always-on listening, no assist modes, less RAM (so it will be more prone to stuttering when lots of applications are running), and a slower CPU/GPU so it won't feel as fast.
I mean, it appears to be a tremendous phone for under $200, and a great phone for anyone looking to start out in the smartphone area, but it's definitely not just a tiny step down from the X.

It would be a close call if not for the discount code. 350 is a steal for the experience of the moto X.

I had the exact problem. I had ordered 2 Moto G's for my daughter and her husband. Then they announced the Promo Sale for the Moto X. I went with the Moto X's and I am completely happy with that decesion. I think your wife will be really impressed the Moto X's extra abilities that no other phone offers. Whatever you decide you will have a great phone.

SemTechie said:
Hi everyone,
I'm looking to gift a new smartphone to my wife this holiday. She is by no means an Android power-user. I'm debating between the X and the G (I snagged a discount code for the X). I know the spec rundown for both devices, but I'm not sure I can justify nearly double the cost for the X. I'm looking for input from people who may have used both devices. Which would you choose as a daily-driver for a non-techie and why?
Thanks.
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I would say the biggest difference by far for a non-techie is the LTE on the X. That alone should decide your choice if your network supports 4g it's a no brainer
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4G. Much better camera. Active notifications. At $350 it's a no-brainer.

SemTechie said:
Hi everyone,
I'm looking to gift a new smartphone to my wife this holiday. She is by no means an Android power-user. I'm debating between the X and the G (I snagged a discount code for the X). I know the spec rundown for both devices, but I'm not sure I can justify nearly double the cost for the X. I'm looking for input from people who may have used both devices. Which would you choose as a daily-driver for a non-techie and why?
Thanks.
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Thanks for all the input. It turns out the G may be my only option. We are on a T-mo prepaid MVNO. The Moto Maker (and the discount) only allow purchases tied to the Big Four. (even with no contract). Has anyone successfully used the T-mo Moto Maker Moto X on a T-mo prepaid MVNO?
I remember putting my wife's old T-mo phone onto the MVNO without unlocking it, but it's a bit of a risk to purchase the X hoping to do that again. And the discount doesn't apply to the Dev edition. Thoughts?

SemTechie said:
Thanks for all the input. It turns out the G may be my only option. We are on a T-mo prepaid MVNO. The Moto Maker (and the discount) only allow purchases tied to the Big Four. (even with no contract). Has anyone successfully used the T-mo Moto Maker Moto X on a T-mo prepaid MVNO?
I remember putting my wife's old T-mo phone onto the MVNO without unlocking it, but it's a bit of a risk to purchase the X hoping to do that again. And the discount doesn't apply to the Dev edition. Thoughts?
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Ya you can its sim-unlocked by default. I bought the tmo motomaker version and use it freely on at&t straight talk. It'll work with a tmo prepaid plan or mvno easily.
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Thanks. Now I may have to cancel my order for the G... Just when I thought Christmas was sewed up.
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If she's a non techie.... Honestly get the g. Then take her out to dinner or buy her another gift that you know shell like.
Most people really dont care about phones and honestly asking a bunch of xda people whar to do is probably pointless.
Moto g is plenty good and if you are on an mvno that doesn't have LTE shell barely care. Or buy her a moto g AND a nexus 7 or an iPad or something.

moto x as a gift
SemTechie said:
Hi everyone,
I'm looking to gift a new smartphone to my wife this holiday. She is by no means an Android power-user. I'm debating between the X and the G (I snagged a discount code for the X). I know the spec rundown for both devices, but I'm not sure I can justify nearly double the cost for the X. I'm looking for input from people who may have used both devices. Which would you choose as a daily-driver for a non-techie and why?
Thanks.
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The perfect gift for your wife... MOTO X.... Ive got one and I love the specs.

Have Moto Maker code / Want Unlocked X

I have an unused Moto Maker redemption code for a Verizon X and want an unlocked X that can be used on T-Mobile or ATT. I'm willing to include cash on top. If someone is trustworthy and willing, I'll redeem the code to your specs and after they deliver (per Moto's rules, it has to be delivered to my address) we can work out the trade.
Thanks!

Try that deal in a buy and sell. Regular folk that know nothing of root would maybe like it. Trade them a custom moto maker the way they want for a used t-mobile. You might want to offer to sim unlock it too. If you can on moto maker? Then you're set.
Problem asking here, is EVERYBODY here wants to be unlocked. Lol

KJ said:
Try that deal in a buy and sell. Regular folk that know nothing of root would maybe like it. Trade them a custom moto maker the way they want for a used t-mobile. You might want to offer to sim unlock it too. If you can on moto maker? Then you're set.
Problem asking here, is EVERYBODY here wants to be unlocked. Lol
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Good point and thanks for the tip! Unfortunately sim unlock is not an option that I'm aware of.
There must be someone out there wanting to come to big red...

suhsix said:
Good point and thanks for the tip! Unfortunately sim unlock is not an option that I'm aware of.
There must be someone out there wanting to come to big red...
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Just FYI, the Verizon XT1060 is already SIM-Unlocked and will work on T-Mobile and AT&T. There are a few caveats, however.
You can only have voice OR data working, and not both at the same time (on GSM). Also, the phone only supports some of the GSM data frequencies (but all of the voice frequencies). Because of this, you may only be able to get EDGE data in some areas.
Also, consider listing on swappa (XDA's official marketplace). You might look through the listings for the GSM unlocked versions, and message the sellers to see if they would consider your trade...
Good Luck

[Q] Question: Moto X and Telcel GSM SIM in Mexico

I know there is a thread about someone using a MAXX for this purpose here - but I wondered if anyone here specifically had experience using a Telcel GSM SIM in Mexico with a Moto X.
Just a little backstory on this... I am going to Cancun in October. I have a Samsung S4 but read that it has issues using data with a GSM sim... so I did some research and, from what I have read, my best option was to get a Moto X because the radio in 4.4.4 fixed a bunch of issues with using a GSM sim and that the Moto X was truly sim unlocked - where the MAXX was locked during a recent update. From a layman's perspective, it is almost impossible to determine what the reality is... but I made the jump anyway.
I actually got Verizon to give me a free upgrade 15 months ahead of schedule when I told them that I would just add a new line and pay the ETF rather than paying full retail for the phone... after explaining to them that I wanted the Moto X because it was sim unlocked. The good news is that they didn't even extend my contract... they just let me buy a new subsidized phone, apparently.
So, now to the question at hand... has anyone had experience doing this? Do I need to do something to make it work properly?

New moto x owner from galaxy nexus - need clarification

So I just picked up a Moto x after having owned a Galaxy nexus for about a year and a half. So there are a few things that currently bother me, and seems like there are no fixes to date.
Moto X (2013), Verizon with unlimited data, OS 4.4.4, non-dev edition, bootloader locked and no root access.
1. There are no solutions to unlock the bootloader as of today.
2. There are no solutions to root and ROM.
3. I cannot use the native hotspot tether feature on my unlimited plan. Has anyone tried the clockworkmod paid tether app ($5) or any other tether app? Can I USB tether from my phone to my Nexus 7 or another phone?
4. Can I somehow remove (unlikely) or at least hide the bloatware?
My browsing of the moto x forums has basically told me that I'm stuck with some upgraded hardware and some highly restricted software comapred to my last phone. I'm very much enjoying the phone and it's new intricacies that my galaxy nexus didn't offer, but any insight would be greatly appreciated.

I believe you are SoL on bootloader unlock/root so 1-3 are out I believe. 4 you can go into settings>apps>disable for the ones you don't want to see.

@rice923
For #1 you are correct. With the NON-Developer Edition Verizon Moto X (XT1060), the bootloader is locked. Moto doesn't give out the bootloader unlock codes for Verizon, ATT and Republic Wireless. Your only option at this point would be IF the China Middleman starts responding again, to buy a code from him.
With a locked bootloader there is no root, and no way to disable write protection when on 4.4.4. Past root exploits don't work. The latest is Sunshine, but it doesn't work on 4.4.4 devices. see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/request-help-exploit-moto-x-bl-t2828471 or see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792487
For #2 and #3, they require an unlocked bootloader.
For #4. Some of the bloat can be "disabled" via Settings -> Apps -> All... open the app you want, and see if the Disable button is there. 3rd party apps to FREEZE wont work because you are not rooted and write protection is still enabled.

Thanks for confirming my findings. I'm a bit disappointed, since I still have unlimited data. The tethering is the main issue that absolutely makes me loathe Verizon.
On a sidenote, I've never handled the developer version of the VZN moto x. Does it still have the Motorola features, such as active display, etc?

rice923 said:
Thanks for confirming my findings. I'm a bit disappointed, since I still have unlimited data. The tethering is the main issue that absolutely makes me loathe Verizon.
On a sidenote, I've never handled the developer version of the VZN moto x. Does it still have the Motorola features, such as active display, etc?
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The Dev edition and retail/moto maker variants are exactly the same software and roms.
The dev edition is only available as black front, woven white back that says "developer edition" on it, with silver accents (camera ring and buttons), 32 gig, and Moto provides the boot loader unlock code and it doesn't void the warranty.
The Moto maker is fully customizable, and Moto doesn't give the unlock code for verizon.

Thanks for the help guys! Unfortunately, I might have to jump ship to another phone that will allow me to tether. I feel like I have no control over the phone without root access, which I've always had for the past 3 years since having my first smartphone.
It's quite sad, since I actually love the rest of the phone...

Perhaps the new Nexus 6 or Droid Turbo, or watch swappa. Com for an unlocked version of the X

Like GandalfTehGray, why not just look for a Dev edition X and sell that one you just got?
root, roms, and themes.. oh my!

$$$... The dev version of almost another $100 more than my 16gb version. Of love to have the Dev edition though!
I'm currently looking into a gs3. There a root exploit floating around, so hopefully that works. Not looking forward to touch wiz

The S3 is a terrible downgrade... IMHO. My M8 went in for service and they lent me an S3....was just awful. Lol
Of course it wasn't rooted... But still awful. Feels and looks cheap. Slow. Just terrible. Should have got them to loan me a Sim for my S2...prefer it to the S3.

Yeah I already know the s3 is a step down from the moto x... I'm loving the moto so much! It just fails to do a few critical things the I've grown to need... Tether being the biggie.
I'm looking at a local rooted and bootloader unlocked s3. Hopefully that will prove my expectations wrong

Posting this from my new (to me) gs3. It indeed has an unlocked bootloader, and the previous owner already has cm11 loaded onto it. It's pretty snappy so far, and in enjoying it. So glad I don't need to put up with touchwiz!
Anyhow, I really miss active display already... And the motion activated camera launch[emoji22]