Actually I don't know how that works with cyanogenmod.org when/who/how will be the decision made to update the sourcecode of the Droid 4 to CM 11 or to create a RC build of CM 10.2.
On cmxlog I see still allot of changes on the 10.2 maserati nightlies. But I'm a bit confused that so many devices got a RC1 build or are updated to CM 11 but non of the QMAP Motorola Phones. And it also looks like many Motorola Phones even don't have any nighties anymore.
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Hopefully I can skirt the edges of the "don't endorse and compare" rules, for the sake of giving you honest information and a "state of the nation." Obviously none of them are done -- I mean, not even the versions for newer / more common phones are done -- so this will hopefully be understood as a matter of "who's focusing on what, first."
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so many devices got a RC1 build or are updated to CM 11 but non of the QMAP Motorola Phones. And it also looks like many Motorola Phones even don't have any nighties anymore.
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There are currently three "even MORE unofficial" builds of KitKat for D4, to my knowledge. Once the pain-in-the-butt part was handled by the usual suspects, development opened up.
Unofficial CM11 Thread
(All hail Michael, savior of 3g. What a patch!)
Unofficial SlimKat, in the SlimBean thread
(I'm using this now, as it allows the custom navring that's built into my muscle memory.) Anecdotally seems more stable, especially w/ ART instead of Dalvik, but (for now I assume) it lacks the 3g fix.
Gummy
I thought Gummy was long gone as a team, and that dhacker had sworn off support for the OMAP phones, but the more the merrier. Haven't tried it, but just because of timing: when I started running KitKat, the newest build predated the 3g fix... no longer the case, but I've been busy.
In SlimKat some of the hw keyboard is mismapped, noticably the Shift-key'd output for the last few numerals. It also doesn't light up for me, so if you're a keyboard commando, this will irk you. I can vouch for CM11's lights -- people have noted they're even on when it's not dark -- but didn't need any asterisks or parenthesis when I was using it, so I need to go back and see if the mapping is likewise wrong.
But hey, new minor version of AOSP, same old patches that need to be scrounged up and ported. Just glad this quirky, lovable phone is getting any support at all.
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Hopefully I can skirt the edges of the "don't endorse and compare" rules, for the sake of giving you honest information and a "state of the nation." Obviously none of them are done -- I mean, not even the versions for newer / more common phones are done -- so this will hopefully be understood as a matter of "who's focusing on what, first."
There are currently three "even MORE unofficial" builds of KitKat for D4, to my knowledge. Once the pain-in-the-butt part was handled by the usual suspects, development opened up.
Unofficial CM11 Thread
(All hail Michael, savior of 3g. What a patch!)
Unofficial SlimKat, in the SlimBean thread
(I'm using this now, as it allows the custom navring that's built into my muscle memory.) Anecdotally seems more stable, especially w/ ART instead of Dalvik, but (for now I assume) it lacks the 3g fix.
Gummy
I thought Gummy was long gone as a team, and that dhacker had sworn off support for the OMAP phones, but the more the merrier. Haven't tried it, but just because of timing: when I started running KitKat, the newest build predated the 3g fix... no longer the case, but I've been busy.
In SlimKat some of the hw keyboard is mismapped, noticably the Shift-key'd output for the last few numerals. It also doesn't light up for me, so if you're a keyboard commando, this will irk you. I can vouch for CM11's lights -- people have noted they're even on when it's not dark -- but didn't need any asterisks or parenthesis when I was using it, so I need to go back and see if the mapping is likewise wrong.
But hey, new minor version of AOSP, same old patches that need to be scrounged up and ported. Just glad this quirky, lovable phone is getting any support at all.
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Thanks for that, but I still don't get why the Droid 4 got no cm10.2 RC1 the cm10.2 nightlies where good and stable. I think for some people that might look like there is no support for the Droid 4 anymore and they swap the phone. Or even people in countries where the last QWERTY slider was a "Milestone/Droid 2" that can be a reason to not buy a used Droid 4. Thats a shame since its the best QWERTY you can currently get without doing any hardware modifications!
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Let's be honest, while Enom's 2.1 version of the Official Nexus ROM had a loyal userbase, Cyanogenmod was FAR more popular. Whether this reflected the quality and functionality of either ROM is a matter of opinion. I believe both ROMs were equally capable, yet the frequency of Cyanogenmod updates appealed to the ROM flashing junkie, of which there are many on this forum. Not discounting the updates, I believe most users would see little difference in each incremental ROM apart from any major bugfixes, some of which were inadvertently caused by the updates themselves. Regardless, Cyanogenmod was the first port of call for many noob ROM flashers on the N1 Android Development forum, many of whom wouldn't even consider trying Enom's ROM.
Roll on Froyo....
Let's be honest, Froyo development has been slower than we expected. Many users, myself included, came in to the Nexus scene a couple of months after release and therefore a couple of months after development had started. This led to there being a multitude of ROMs available to flash and frequent updates to appease the junkies. Don't get me wrong, there are numerous Froyo packages available to flash but they have been mainly based of MCR ROMs (Thanks Paul!!) based on the official Froyo image i.e. not AOSP. Many of the Cyanogenmod faithful have gravitated towards bundles such as Rodriguez, K-o-R and LeoFroyo. The Cyanogenmod team finally released their CM6 RC1 a fortnight ago and while packing some awesome features, has also included the bugs you would expect in a 'release candidate' version. Then Enom drops his Froyo version of the Official Nexus; which while slightly buggy on its first release has been updated twice (fixing the bugs) while CM, excluding the nightly builds, has remained at RC1.
Now as a user who checks the forum daily, I've never seen Enom's thread so active! Including Trackball Alert features before Lil Hermit updated his app (which you must donate to have the same functionality) and including a pre-themed version (Bundles anyone?) seems to have attracted many users who never caught sight of the 2.1 ROM thread. I've seen numerous comments where people are talking of being 'converted' from CM and basically showing love for what was always an awesome ROM.
A long winded post as always, but my questions are as follows:
Will Enom's TheOfficialNexus now become the most popular ROM in the N1 section?
Or will everyone migrate as soon as CM6 Final is released?
Were you a CM user who has now been 'converted'?
Discuss!
As always..... Regards.....
Interesting thread. I'm a believer in joint efforts, so I won't drift into the competition area, but I'll offer my point of view.
On Eclair, the base system was left lacking A LOT of what it could deliver, from partial RAM usage through being locked to ROM for app storage to bad power efficiency to trackball colors etc. Cyanogen's builds delivered all that in a good package. I never thought of trying another ROM.
On Froyo, the base system is MUCH better, and many more find it better than custom ROMs than it was with Eclair. I don't remember seeing "Ok, all I want is a stock rooted Froyo, how do I do it" threads, which were present in some quantity lately - and it might be an indication of just how good stock Froyo is. Most of the modifications are cosmetic, like in the packages based off FRF91, which are most current ROMs.
But for some, the base Froyo still lacks things - for me it was the modified MMS app (I don't like Handcent, tried it, stock is better IMO), which I could just push, and browser mods - having the ability to change UA without entering "about:debug", which I had to do myself if I wanted it, since nobody else did. I'm disappointed in Froyo's Apps2SD method, So I wanted something else - and no ROM offers integration of other Apps2SD capability in Froyo's framework until now, only the symlinks method. So I wanted mostly base Froyo, but with modifications - and that's exactly what brought me to Enomther's ROM. It is a great ROM with some small bugs that I can live with and all the features I wanted, so I ended up using it.
I'm currently running CM6 RC1, I absolutely love it. I've also ran MCRs Froyo, and I like CM better, I've been debating on trying out Enoms. I've seen many a good comment about his 2.1 ROMs, but I wasn't rooted then. I'm going to give it some time to get a good feel for the ROMs and see if I find any unexpected bugs... eventually I'm going to try out Enoms ROM and see which I like out of all 3 (of the major players at least). It's not a matter of how much a developer updates, but how the ROM functions as a whole and what the bugs are. I think it's great we have such great devs for the Nexus and for Android in general. It appears for the Android community believes in quality over quantity.
I ran CM 5.0.8
It was okay.
Enter Froyo.
CM wasn't available, so I ran asimrom (based off of MCR)
when cm6 came out, I flashed it.
Hated it, went back to asimrom.
Right now, I am in a testing phase of enom's ROM
(I have literally had it for 12 hours, and for 8 of those I was sleeping)
and so far, i must say it is better than CM.
I have been running theofficial nexus rom since this morning and I have to say i am hooked. I just came from mcr r21. Tried cm6 but was too beta quality for my tastes. Just lacked some features I was used to having from a finished rom. Up until mcr r21 I was using cm5 roms. I have always enjoyed cm roms and may go back once cm6 is released but I am truly enjoying enom's rom right now. It has pretty much the same features I liked in cm5 but froyo'd and it is fast. I like vanilla roms personally, you can keep Sense.
Enom's is an awesome rom. Is it a game changer? It surely could be. I would suggest people try it. I like it as much or more than any other rom I have tried and I have tried many on a few different devices.
I like Enom's ROM because you don't need to buy Trackball Alert Pro to use it.
It basically has all of the Trackball Alert Pro features for free in his SpareParts! You can't beat that!
I dunno I seem to remember there being Nightly's and stable releases. Now we have Unofficial Nightly's. Why? This isnt going to continue is it? Eventually we will get back to just Nightly's and Stable right? Not that its a big deal just seems unnecessary.
As I look through the threads I see there are a good number of people running these Unoffical Nightlys so maybe someone can explain to me the difference between Official and Unofficial. Are they that bad that they cant be official? If they are that bad why are so many people running them? Seems to reason that the unofficial is stable enough so cant we just make them official for god sakes. I mean really whats the worst that can happen? Its not like Cyanogen is going to be sued. Its already assumed that official nightlys are not going to be stable so whats the problem?
Official is being built by the Cyanogen servers and released at their discretion. The unofficials are users creating their own builds (usually with modifications) and being released separately.
That being said, CM7 has been in development for a while so there are both nightlies and stable releases. CM9 is still in early development, and Cyanogen team hasn't been releasing nightlies yet. The ones you see are users releasing it on their own.
You're either not very smart or a terrible reader. Unofficial simply means private individuals are taking it upon themselves to regularly post private builds that they made themselves, for others to take for a test drive. Official builds would come directly from CM, which has not happened yet.
Get a clue.
Perhaps your highness would be kind and gracious enough to direct us to a place where we could read that explanation (assuming, of course, that we can read such lofty material)..
Tongue firmly in cheek.. but.. hey Dude.. lighten up.
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You're either not very smart or a terrible reader. Unofficial simply means private individuals are taking it upon themselves to regularly post private builds that they made themselves, for others to take for a test drive. Official builds would come directly from CM, which has not happened yet.
Get a clue.
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Yep those are the only two possible reasons for me not knowing whats going on.
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I dunno I seem to remember there being Nightly's and stable releases. Now we have Unofficial Nightly's. Why? This isnt going to continue is it? Eventually we will get back to just Nightly's and Stable right? Not that its a big deal just seems unnecessary.
As I look through the threads I see there are a good number of people running these Unoffical Nightlys so maybe someone can explain to me the difference between Official and Unofficial. Are they that bad that they cant be official? If they are that bad why are so many people running them? Seems to reason that the unofficial is stable enough so cant we just make them official for god sakes. I mean really whats the worst that can happen? Its not like Cyanogen is going to be sued. Its already assumed that official nightlys are not going to be stable so whats the problem?
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I'm kind of confused due to your confusion
What "Unofficial Nightly's" and "Official Nightly's" you are seeing?
Don't tell me that you are confusing the Official Nightly's of CM7 and the Unofficial Nightly's of CM9.
Two different things.
Im sorry! Im trying to keep up with the development of the Nook Color, HTC Droid Eris, and the Galaxy Nexus and I lost it. LOL Not too mention my search for the perfect router to finally rid me of that god awful Linksys WRT54GS combined with the overkill Smoothwall finally ended. My home network has been in shambles till recently. Again I apologize. Its purely my mixup and clearly nothing to do with the information provided at XDA. I just needed to search a bit more. Or I could have asked like I did here but maybe in a more positive tone. Im sorry for that as well.
So I recently purchased the GNEX and I love ICS. OMG I cant tell you how nice it is to finally have a proper smart phone with polished Android Goodness. I want the same for my Nook. From what ive read so far the "Unofficial Builds" seem to run pretty good. Users reporting it runs as good as CM7. Is this true? I mainly use my Nook for watching Netflix and Hulu. I do some light browsing as well. Would the latest build work well enough for me to hop in now?
Thanks for your help and understanding!
I don't know how far but CM9 is far from stable as CM7
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Im sorry! Im trying to keep up with the development of the Nook Color, HTC Droid Eris, and the Galaxy Nexus and I lost it. LOL Not too mention my search for the perfect router to finally rid me of that god awful Linksys WRT54GS combined with the overkill Smoothwall finally ended. My home network has been in shambles till recently. Again I apologize. Its purely my mixup and clearly nothing to do with the information provided at XDA. I just needed to search a bit more. Or I could have asked like I did here but maybe in a more positive tone. Im sorry for that as well.
So I recently purchased the GNEX and I love ICS. OMG I cant tell you how nice it is to finally have a proper smart phone with polished Android Goodness. I want the same for my Nook. From what ive read so far the "Unofficial Builds" seem to run pretty good. Users reporting it runs as good as CM7. Is this true? I mainly use my Nook for watching Netflix and Hulu. I do some light browsing as well. Would the latest build work well enough for me to hop in now?
Thanks for your help and understanding!
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Awesome. Reading comprehension skills FTW.
CM9 is nice. Personally, I'd wait for solid wifi and any true resolution on HW accel.
CM7 had 'official' stable releases and 'official' nightlies built by the CyanogenMod automated build process. The last stable was 7.1 but there were nightlies after that which continued to fix some remaining problems.
Back in mid November 2011 the build process suffered from some hardware failures and the nightlies stopped appearing. At the same time ICS was being released and the devs switched their attention to that (CM9) and, although the build process got repaired, the CM7 nightlies were never restarted.
There were some outstanding issues in CM7 that had got fixed but never built by the official process into either a stable or a nightly. That is where the 'unofficial' builds stepped in and built new ROMS from the source incorporating the latest fixes and including some other improvements. The most common of these is the MiRaGe build found in the thread in development and that has been very stable, gives great performance and is often referred to as 7.2
CM9 is effectively still in an alpha form and does not have official nightlies or 'stables' yet. The developers did encourage people to learn how to build ROMS from the source and some have now made these 'unofficial' nightlies available.
Some find these unofficial CM9 nightlies good and stable enough for daily use; I am one. There are trade offs; the CM7 ROMS are generally a bit snappier in performance and there are one or two limitations in CM9 functionality (e.g. hw video acceleration) but this is balanced by a significantly nicer user interface and functionality in CM9. You just choose based on what is important to you.
Nandroid backups are always your friend and allows you try out various options at low risk and just a few minutes to fully restore to a former point.
Thanks for the summary and info.
But how well does Hulu and Netflix work? Right now thats the most important thing.
Im currently running CM7 stable with the processor clocked at 925. I see alot of people running overclock kernels so when you say CM9 isnt as snappy to which are you comparing to. Low end or high?
Either. I'm running CM9 at 1200 right now and there is still lag (haven't done any tweaks though, working on other things). Besides that, I don't think Netflix is working on CM9 yet. If you are wanting stability, smoothness, and more application compatibility, CM9 isn't quite there yet.
It's funny how the people calling the OP clueless seem blissfully unaware of the situation with nightlies the last few months, but bobtidey broke it down well. The automated system for CM7 nightlies is broken, but the updated source is still available, and some people are sharing their builds from source (MiRaGe being the most reliable atm).
If Hulu and Netflix are your priorities, CM9 is probably not for you just yet. You can try it out a number of ways,
As bobtidey said, back up your current build, flash CM9, and if you're not happy go back.
Set it up on SD--there's a link in my sig for that, just grab CM9 and a compatible gapps instead of CM7.
Repartition the NC and set up a dual boot like mine (also linked in my sig) with MiRaGe's CM7.2 and Samiam's CM9.
If you just want a fresher flavor and don't want to mess around too much, I'd say go w/ MiRaGe's build.
Blah! It is what it is. As stated things have been pretty hectic around here. Now that I think of it things are always hectic. So I overlooked something and needed correction.
I just may dual boot. Ive wanted to try MiRaGe for awhile now anyways. I hear great things. Should be a nice upgrade over CM7 stable right? Thanks for info!
(sorry if the title is misleading, this is not a comparison)
It seems to me that all of the ICS roms that we currently have for the droid 3 are quite similar. So similar in fact that I can't tell the difference. They all have the same bugs (no video recording, no face unlock, bluetooth on but not connected blah blah blah).
From what I've gathered, CM9 is performance based and AOKP offers more customization. Other than that, what are the differences between these 4 roms? What do they offer in comparison to the others? If I'm wrong and some roms lack the above bugs, please correct me.
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i kinda agree. i have yet to try the new steel droid. im loving the aokp.
AFIAK, some of these latest ROMs like Gummy, and the MotoBlur just add onto existing functionality into AOKP.
The reason the "bugs" are so similar is because Hashcode and Dhacker29 have some type of shared hardware base code that is compiled against the CM9 and AOKP source.
Once they figure out how to get the HWCodecs going, I'm sure we'll get the video recording, possibly face unlock and video playback. I think that Hashcode already figured it out, but he may have ran into some kind of licensing issue which prevents him from releasing it (or getting sued).
From my experience on Gummy and AOKP, Gummy has phenomenal battery life, but AOKP boasts tons of modifications. Also, Gummy doesn't have docking and dock audio yet, and this is why I'm back on AOKP, but I'm considering trying CM9 and/or SD5 over the weekend.
I can tell the difference. They all have different options and system settings, they used altered launchers as well. Also AOKP has really neat toggle options.
I've been using android for a few years and for skinned phones sometimes the stock os or ROMs based off of it has some advantages. For example the galaxy note too have the spen FULLY functional and have all the apps associated with it you need a stock based ROM. But for out nexus 4s cm seems to be the only choice. Many other ROMs are based off of it kernel devs use there commits. Cm is usually first and the most stable with updates and mods. I've had cm on all my phones so just wondering what your views are. Is there any real benefit to using any ROM other than cm? Honestly to me the stability is better than anything else out there.... Thanks
Paranoid Android. The hybrid options are amazing and it is as stable as CM... Even more so for me as I had a hiccup with CM.
Honestly, though, it's not all about stability, but the options, the look, the feel, and trying something different. CM is great, but it's the ROM everyone uses... Like a second stock ROM. It becomes boring...
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CM is great if it is available. However, they have been known to drop support for phones (the G2 comes to mind), and they of course don't support every phone. I imagine the Nexus phones will be likely to be well-supported. Of course, CM isn't stable yet on the Nexus 4 - and looking at the track record for the Nexus 7 it could be months before it is.
For me stability is a key feature. I'm not sure I'd call CM completely stable, but it is far more disciplined than most of the alternatives. I'd really only call a release stable if it has been in beta for at least a week or two, and there are no significant changes between the beta and stable versions. I've yet to see CM show that kind of discipline, but you can get the same effect by just holding back on new releases for a few weeks, monitoring the bugs/forums, and then picking a nightly build that looks to have all the issues worked out.
I think the modding community has suffered from the platform diversity. Once upon a time everybody owned an HTC Dream and there was some REALLY good software for it as a result. Now it seems like no two developers own the same phone, and it shows.
This looks like a "What's the best ROM?" thread to me. You also seem to be slagging off the other developers.
The bottom line is everybody has their own opinions, read each respective ROM's thread, flash it and make up your own mind. If you're interest in how many people are using a ROM, sort the forum by the "Stats" column.
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Anyone knows if someone take the initiative to develop something for our unlucky device?
Is that possible at least?
Im no real dev but I was bored last night and started messing around with it, got the android part to compile, havent flashed it or anything though
But in its current state, ubuntu phone doesnt seem like anything more then, 'hey this is cool, now back to a rom that has some actual support'
Its a dev preview with little to nothing working heh
To answer your question though, on paper, yes, it looks like it would work, just with all the same problems as current cm10.1 that are caused by kexec
That was exaustive man thanks!
Damn kexec is both a great good and a great bad for this device!
Hashcode, you're our only hope!
Looks like Hashcode is planning to port it eventually:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Work_in_progress
I wasn't really expecting anyone to port this for our Droid 3 considering the low amount of RAM we have when compared to newer devices.
Yeah, Hash is currently working on it (check his Twitter, there are links to the XDA thread. I'd link, but stupid 10 post limit here...), but it's as good as it's gonna get for a little bit.
As he says:
WHAT WORKS:
Display
Touch screen
Wifi
Audio
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I'm running a D3 on Verizon with SafeStrap 3.05 and the 03-01 Phablet patch, and it CAN make phone calls (so CDMA and GSM both apparently work).
He isn't kidding about needing more swap space, or it being a power drain; a lot of issues with Ubuntu Touch boil down to how much of a WIP it is by the Ubuntu devs.
As soon as I have this 10 post criteria met, I'll post a bit more of an updated "how to install" on his dev thread.
I'm a noob but I finally got something flashed to my D3. I loaded the Nightly CM10.1 Solana from 03-10 and the 03-01 Gapps using TWRP Safestrap 3.05. The phone largely works, the biggest issue I have is that my Bluetooth keyboard doesn't work with it. It pairs but it doesn't send any keystrokes. I know the camera doesn't work, but my D3 pictures never turned out anyway. Operation seems smooth but a little bit on the slow side (which doesn't surprise me).
I haven't done any customizing or optimizing, so perhaps it could be made to run faster by tweaking on it.
I just wanted to try out the phone with larger font size so I don't have to hold the phone so far away. That's why I loaded Jelly Bean on it. The ICS version I installed couldn't make and receive calls, and same thing on the CM10.1 nightly from 03-09. I'm not saying I installed those right or anything. My point is, in my opinion, the March 10 Solana Nightly has left me with a phone that I'm having fun with, and I'm happy to leave it this way for awhile maybe. Perhaps it is not a good idea to load the nightly builds on your machine when you're a noob like me, but hey it looks to me like I picked a good day.