So im not sure if this affects 4.4 4.4.1 4.4.2 or all of them. However i did not notice this UNTIL 4.4.2. It could of possibly been happening with 4.4 but i dont think so.
Ive had this happen twice this week, atleast that ive noticed. And the situation has been the same. I will have service, and then i will jump on wifi and end up walking into a no service area. After im done in the no service area, i will kill wifi and walk back to an area that i have coverage. The walk to and from both locations the coverage is spotty. However when i get back to the area where i have full coverage the status bar indicates i have bars, however if you look at the tiles, it shows NO SERVICE, but WITH BARS. I dont know if i actually have service or not. But either way its a graphical glitch.
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So im not sure if this affects 4.4 4.4.1 4.4.2 or all of them. However i did not notice this UNTIL 4.4.2. It could of possibly been happening with 4.4 but i dont think so.
Ive had this happen twice this week, atleast that ive noticed. And the situation has been the same. I will have service, and then i will jump on wifi and end up walking into a no service area. After im done in the no service area, i will kill wifi and walk back to an area that i have coverage. The walk to and from both locations the coverage is spotty. However when i get back to the area where i have full coverage the status bar indicates i have bars, however if you look at the tiles, it shows NO SERVICE, but WITH BARS. I dont know if i actually have service or not. But either way its a graphical glitch.
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Same since updating to 4.4.1 and 4.4.2 ... was fine for me on 4.4
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Same since updating to 4.4.1 and 4.4.2 ... was fine for me on 4.4
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Glad to know im not the only one. Question is, do we really have service when it says that, or do we actually have service. I forget to physically test it. I hope we actually still have service and just the NO SERVICE text is the glitch.
...an icon issue is a "Major bug"?
Does it cause hotboots? App crashes? Make your phone explode? It's like the title was written to get page views...
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...an icon issue is a "Major bug"?
Does it cause hotboots? App crashes? Make your phone explode? It's like the title was written to get page views...
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I spend my precious time trying to get page views on a internet forum? Are you kidding me?
A phone showing you that you have service when you may not isn't a major bug? Youre joking right? I guess when your car shows that your gas tank is full when its really about to hit empty isn't anything to be worried about either.
its not an issue, thats how its supposed to be. notice how it shows the service bars in orange? that means that no data is flowing even though theres a connection. when data starts flowing, they turn white.
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its not an issue, thats how its supposed to be. notice how it shows the service bars in orange? that means that no data is flowing even though theres a connection. when data starts flowing, they turn white.
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I dont think that's the issue. Orange dictates no connection to Google services which may or not be down to the fact that there's no service.
However, regardless of this, H + bars should not co exist with "No Service" on a regular basis.
No service should mean no voice, no data, no bars
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Sounds like the sprint data bug that's all over the forums here. Do you have sprint?
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I've had this problem for a while. My signal bars will show full even when I have no signal. Have to toggle airplane mode on and off to get it resolved.
I'd say it was a major bug. Thinking you have signal when you've got none is bad ESPECIALLY for a phone.
Its intermittent. Sometimes I can go days with no problems and then I'll have it three times in 1 day. Very annoying.
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I spend my precious time trying to get page views on a internet forum? Are you kidding me?
A phone showing you that you have service when you may not isn't a major bug? Youre joking right? I guess when your car shows that your gas tank is full when its really about to hit empty isn't anything to be worried about either.
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This issue is like the volume knob coming off your radio in the car but still being able to turn it.
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This issue is like the volume knob coming off your radio in the car but still being able to turn it.
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No. Its like the volume knob staying on your radio in the car but sometimes it doesn't grip the shaft and the volume doesn't change
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emerica243 said:
So im not sure if this affects 4.4 4.4.1 4.4.2 or all of them. However i did not notice this UNTIL 4.4.2. It could of possibly been happening with 4.4 but i dont think so.
I haven't had this issue with 4.4 but I do have it with 4.4.2 and had it with 4.4.1. I thought 4.4.2 would have fixed it but it didn't.
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This issue is like the volume knob coming off your radio in the car but still being able to turn it.
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Sorry to say this but your analogy is incorrect. With the volume you'd have a constant reminder by the music playing to tell you what the volume is. And same for adjusting it up and down as well.
The problem the OP is describing is having a car that's showing you've got a full tank only to have it cut out on you on the motorway on Christmas day leaving you stranded in the countryside while someone else eats your Christmas dinner.
In case it wasn't already obvious. It cut out because the car had no fuel but the fuel gauge was faulty.
PS just to clarify, on the main status bar my signal bars will be full. However when I click on the notification and click on settings. My signal bars will show NO SIGNAL. This doesn't happy all the time and I know exactly what the orange bars mean.
Me and the OP are talking about the status bar showing full signal when in actual effect you have none.
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Sorry to say this but your analogy is incorrect. With the volume you'd have a constant reminder by the music playing to tell you what the volume is. And same for adjusting it up and down as well.
The problem the OP is describing is having a car that's showing you've got a full tank only to have it cut out on you on the motorway on Christmas day leaving you stranded in the countryside while someone else eats your Christmas dinner.
In case it wasn't already obvious. It cut out because the car had no fuel but the fuel gauge was faulty.
PS just to clarify, on the main status bar my signal bars will be full. However when I click on the notification and click on settings. My signal bars will show NO SIGNAL. This doesn't happy all the time and I know exactly what the orange bars mean.
Me and the OP are talking about the status bar showing full signal when in actual effect you have none.
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exactly this.
This is kind of off on a tangent (and OP, I really do feel for you even though I don't have any suggestions), but I am SO TIRED of people talking about their bars of service. It's like I've been transported back in time to 2003. I stopped even looking at the bars years ago because they're almost completely meaningless.
Anyway, rant over
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This is kind of off on a tangent (and OP, I really do feel for you even though I don't have any suggestions), but I am SO TIRED of people talking about their bars of service. It's like I've been transported back in time to 2003. I stopped even looking at the bars years ago because they're almost completely meaningless.
Anyway, rant over
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I know bars are just a graphical representation. But when i glance down at my phone i always look at them to make sure i have active service. I could care less how much. But the liking of seeing bars, or reading straight dB numbers is pointless if what its telling you is a lie.
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I dont think that's the issue. Orange dictates no connection to Google services which may or not be down to the fact that there's no service.
However, regardless of this, H + bars should not co exist with "No Service" on a regular basis.
No service should mean no voice, no data, no bars
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This...
also confirmed by the following article
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...on-android-gets-cleaner-brighter-more-useful/
but more to that, when i turn wifi off, i have the same thing for a few seconds, meaning that the switch from wifi to cell is not as instantaneous as you think it should be. i will still see the H+ or LTE for a few seconds before the icon turns white again. that is normal as far as i can tell.
Its literally done this for 3 or 4 Android versions, ever since they introduced the quick toggles. Its not an issue at all. The toggle just lags behind a bit in updating in certain situations. Its not like data isn't actually working. Its just a bit of a graphical glitch.
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Does it cause hotboots? App crashes? Make your phone explode? It's like the title was written to get page views...
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This has happened on my phone since day 1. My experience is that it does not have any actually service at all. First thing I tried when I saw this was airplane mode, then airplane mode off. No bars, no signal, nothing. Turn it off and on, same. It fixes after a few minutes. Even if you don't turn on/off airplane, it is still no signal. I is cause I'll get emails from 3 or 4 different accounts at the same time, where my tablet has already received them.
I've only seen it happen in my house, so I figured lte was the suck in my house.
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I spend my precious time trying to get page views on a internet forum? Are you kidding me?
A phone showing you that you have service when you may not isn't a major bug? Youre joking right? I guess when your car shows that your gas tank is full when its really about to hit empty isn't anything to be worried about either.
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This has happened on my phone since day 1. My experience is that it does not have any actually service at all. First thing I tried when I saw this was airplane mode, then airplane mode off. No bars, no signal, nothing. Turn it off and on, same. It fixes after a few minutes. Even if you don't turn on/off airplane, it is still no signal. I is cause I'll get emails from 3 or 4 different accounts at the same time, where my tablet has already received them.
I've only seen it happen in my house, so I figured lte was the suck in my house.
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Not trying to offend anyone with my post, but I was simply pointing out that an icon that doesn't update quickly/properly in the quick settings panel isn't a major bug. Now if you tell me that in settings/phone status your phone is showing you have signal - say -100dbm - and you actually don't have service - well, even then I would only call that a mild or moderate bug. But an icon (in one location) that isn't accurate isn't going to run me out of fuel and have someone eat my Christmas dinner (seriously that stuff made me chuckle a bit). I didn't have a cellular device 15 years ago and I was eating my own food TYVM . --But even if someone showed up at my place and ate my plate of food, shouldn't I get in the car and go to the next house? :silly:
@samagon- turning airplane mode on and off turns off the radios and it's completely normal for the phone to delay a few minutes before getting any reception. Not getting emails could be that the phone isn't syncing as often (among other variables).
And I believe the car analogy should have been-
You have a car. You turn the key and it tells you it's running, but the engine isn't making any noise and the car doesn't go anywhere.
The fuel analogy IMO would likely reference the battery not reporting the correct amount of charge (fuel) remaining.
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I had 2 VZW Moto Xs and they rocked. About 10 days ago I switched to TMO Moto Xs and the GPS loses lock on both of them. Much like the first set, they get lock very quickly, but both the TMO units acted strangely during nav and when I installed GPS Status I see that the GPS gets lock, the coordinates are displayed, then about 10 sec later it searches for lock again, the coordinates aren't returned, and then it relocks.
This causes a real usability issue when it comes to navigation. If it was one of these I'd think I had a dud, but the VZW units worked fine and the TMO units both have this bug.
Has anyone seen similar issues?
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I use gps daily and i've only come across an issue with it 2x when i went to New York City. basically, it was putting my location all over the map, as if it couldnt find me. Im guessing the high rise buildings had something to do with it.
as far as gps losing lock, I have notice that as well. I never toggle it off and yet I have to turn it maybe once/twice a month
The lock problem I have is pretty continuous, and restarting doesn't seem to help. Wondering I'd there was a bad run somehow.
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I also encountered this issue.
I reset the phone and it went back normal; however, it occasionally still acts weird. I'm on tmobile as well.
Hope someone can figure this out
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For those of you seeing this issue, when it pops up, go into settings > location and see if you see LocationServices listed twice... One with a size of 120k, and the other 136k.
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For those of you seeing this issue, when it pops up, go into settings > location and see if you see LocationServices listed twice... One with a size of 120k, and the other 136k.
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As a matter of fact I do see this. Any idea what might be going on?
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Not yet... but it seems out of place.
My history with GPS "not quite working" was about it being extremely hit and miss about detecting me driving. When this would happen, I'd notice problems with Maps as well.
After a factory reset, it all worked fine. But as soon as I reinstalled Yelp, the issue returned. I'm not certain that yelp is the culprit as in hindsight, I really didn't confirm proper operation after the reset for a long enough period of time given the intermittent nature of the problem.
Next step is to try and determine if two of these same processes is normal, and if not, which one doesn't belong, and where it's coming from. There is a thread in the Moto forums I started. One person there who sees only one occurrence of the process stated his is 120k in size. One of my posts also has a list of all my third party apps that use location services. It would be helpful to know which apps are in common with folks having this issue. The thread is at:
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/8a2bf78f04?page=1
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I had 2 VZW Moto Xs and they rocked. About 10 days ago I switched to TMO Moto Xs and the GPS loses lock on both of them. Much like the first set, they get lock very quickly, but both the TMO units acted strangely during nav and when I installed GPS Status I see that the GPS gets lock, the coordinates are displayed, then about 10 sec later it searches for lock again, the coordinates aren't returned, and then it relocks.
This causes a real usability issue when it comes to navigation. If it was one of these I'd think I had a dud, but the VZW units worked fine and the TMO units both have this bug.
Has anyone seen similar issues?
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So you are saying this can be software issue? I have a T-Mobile Moto X and I use the phone mostly for Navigation and this is driving me crazy. I am thinking that my phone is defective and been on the phone for 30+ min trying to get support.
I have the same issue
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Not yet... but it seems out of place.
My history with GPS "not quite working" was about it being extremely hit and miss about detecting me driving. When this would happen, I'd notice problems with Maps as well.
After a factory reset, it all worked fine. But as soon as I reinstalled Yelp, the issue returned. I'm not certain that yelp is the culprit as in hindsight, I really didn't confirm proper operation after the reset for a long enough period of time given the intermittent nature of the problem.
Next step is to try and determine if two of these same processes is normal, and if not, which one doesn't belong, and where it's coming from. There is a thread in the Moto forums I started. One person there who sees only one occurrence of the process stated his is 120k in size. One of my posts also has a list of all my third party apps that use location services. It would be helpful to know which apps are in common with folks having this issue. The thread is at:
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/8a2bf78f04?page=1
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I went ahead and posted my situation to https://forums.motorola.com/posts/8a2bf78f04?commentId=755612#755612. There are no apps in common with all three devices (yours, mine, my wife's). The quest continues.
I must add that I also had this problem on my previous phones, Note 2 and Galaxy Mega 6.3. The problem started around the past summer.
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I confirm that I force stop the 120 k location service file, and the problem is gone. Need to do that again after a reset though.
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I confirm that I force stop the 120 k location service file, and the problem is gone. Need to do that again after a reset though.
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When you say 'reset', do you mean reset or just rebooting your phone?
BTW, I have no LocationServices on my Nexus 4, so these seem to be Moto's binaries, which makes sense.
Would appreciate you keeping us posted if this continues to address the issue and causes no additional problems.
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When you say 'reset', do you mean reset or just rebooting your phone?
BTW, I have no LocationServices on my Nexus 4, so these seem to be Moto's binaries, which makes sense.
Would appreciate you keeping us posted if this continues to address the issue and causes no additional problems.
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I mean rebooting the phone. I use Waze everyday for commuting. I will report back if this fix doesn't work.
In terms of side effects, I have not seen any yet.
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I see both, and if I stop one, I get no better GPS lock.
I've been getting g terrible GPS lock recently and also posted a thread.
Driving me nuts.
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I went ahead and posted my situation to ... There are no apps in common with all three devices (yours, mine, my wife's). The quest continues.
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I have the same problem. XT1053 on T-Mobile constantly loses GPS signal while driving. Happens in wide open areas with no buildings. I have tried wiping the device and not installing any additional apps and have the same results. I can be sitting at a traffic light have GPS signal, lose it for a few seconds then get it back without having moved.
Here is a poorly shot video of this happening. I will try and get something more clear tomorrow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5MeEVS1DW0
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I returned my phone for this issue yesterday. I had navigation issues along with the drive assist problem. While driving maps world just stop. If I was at a turn and turned left the map would stay stuck at the turn long after I turned. It eventually would catch up. Loosing and gaining lock would perfectly explain this.
Update: I got a replacement phone. The new phone has the same problems. May be a bit worse.
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Been chasing this one for a while and still think this isn't hardware related (lots of Nexus 5 users seeing this on KK as well).
My latest theory, which I have yet to disprove, is that the GPS data downloaded from some cell towers (this is the A in AGPS) is either wrong, or is somehow getting corrupted.
When this happens to me, turning on airplane mode immediately restores a quick and persistent lock. And using GPS Status to reset/erase the AGPS data returns normal operation... for a while.
It's like the initial fix info is fighting with the actual GPS readings. As soon as you turn off the cell towers, or clear the data they are providing, all is well.
I am in T-Mobile fringe area and see it fairly often. So far it has always cleared up by trying the above.
This is am interesting theory. I will check it out a bit. Most interesting is the idea that the agps data structure may be slightly different for kitkat v ICS, and that it may also be different for TMO. The main idea supporting this (though purely anecdotal) is that it does happen on both my tmo Xs but neither of my VZW Xs.
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Is there any reason to update from 4.2.2 to 4.3 other then the galaxy gear? Camera improvements or stability would be cool. In the notes it says nothing really, and it took so Long compared to the other phones. Where is 4.4 maybe we can get a small UI change.
After the OTA to 4.3, I can now get text messages read to me in my Honda through the Honda system using both my Active and Note 2. Just for this, the update was worth it so my wife doesn't fumble around with the phone with the baby in the back.
Shouldn't text and drive to begin with. There's never a more important text vs paying attention while driving.
Other than losing root and getting the ability to use a Galaxy Gear (maybe?) it doesn't look like much of an update.
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After updating to 4.3, my GPS can't get a lock on my location. Does anyone else have the same issue?
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After updating to 4.3, my GPS can't get a lock on my location. Does anyone else have the same issue?
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I got "lock" (sort of), but very poor performance. My GPS thought I was about ½ mile south of actual location. Stayed that way for about 20 miles while driving (paralleling my actual position). Finally caught up to accurate position after 20 minutes.
Other problems since OTA 4.3:
Worse reception. At a location known for poor reception but usually enough signal for phone/text. I had 4 bars cellular and 4GLTE indicated. Tried making a call and got the "emergency call only" notification. Never saw that while bars and data both reflected on top of screen. Never lost bars or data indication but unable to make call until moving to different location. I know the bars are arbitrary and I was too busy trying to make a call to check actual signal strength in "about phone" but I thought it odd that even after getting the "Emergency Calls only" the phone continued to show 4 bars and good data.
Chrome browser freezes occasionally. The screen goes black except the upper left 480x540 pixels that remain on last image. Required FC to fix.
All three issues showed up within 24 hrs of 4.3 update, no prior history.
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After the OTA to 4.3, I can now get text messages read to me in my Honda through the Honda system using both my Active and Note 2. Just for this, the update was worth it so my wife doesn't fumble around with the phone with the baby in the back.
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Oh, I'm so glad that Samsung managed to make traffic so much safer with one simple and quick delivered update.
Awesome Company.
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I know we've had some discussions on the "mobile radio active" found on some apps causing battery drain. Has anyone seen a fix for this yet? It is still driving me crazy.
huh? mobile radio active? whats that, a wakelock?
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This. With every app. Mobile radio active kills battery
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This. With every app. Mobile radio active kills battery
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I was wondering why my battery life was horrible since updating.
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I had this issue on 5.0, 5.01, and now 5.1. Been with it the whole time. I've tried different radios and clean flashes and wipes. Nothing is getting rid of it. When you search google there are some people with the same issue but nothing major which leads me to believe some things wrong with my phone and/or there's something causing this and it isn't normal.
I've never seen this
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Interesting and kinda what I figured. I wonder where I start to get rid of it.
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Interesting and kinda what I figured. I wonder where I start to get rid of it.
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My first instinct would be a full wipe initially.
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My first instinct would be a full wipe initially.
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That was mine too and what I did when I flashed 5.1
One issue I have is with the Facebook app and I believe that is causing a lot of my battery drain when not on WiFi. In a recent update Facebook removed the option to not automatically update news feed. Now I believe it refreshes very often causing massive drain.
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I know we've had some discussions on the "mobile radio active" found on some apps causing battery drain. Has anyone seen a fix for this yet? It is still driving me crazy.
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This is NOT an Android bug. This is *possibly* a BAD SOFTWARE issue, or PERFECTLY NORMAL.
Every application that transfers ANYTHING over the network, will cause mobile data activity, which REQUIRES activity on the radio, and DOES draw battery power.
If an application transfers too much, or too often, or too slow, or anything else that will cause the radio to activate frequently or for longer periods of time, then you will see this mobile radio active timer increase.
And the MORE applications you have doing this, again, the more battery it will suck down.
Edit: Your example of pushbullet.... in order for that program to work, it needs to maintain persistent connections between each device you are using that program on, and the vendor's server. In order to maintain a persistent connection, packets have to be transferred across the route on a timed basis, where the time is less than the timeout on all of the routers along the route.
Conclusion: everything is working correctly as intended.
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This is NOT an Android bug. This is *possibly* a BAD SOFTWARE issue, or PERFECTLY NORMAL.
Every application that transfers ANYTHING over the network, will cause mobile data activity, which REQUIRES activity on the radio, and DOES draw battery power.
If an application transfers too much, or too often, or too slow, or anything else that will cause the radio to activate frequently or for longer periods of time, then you will see this mobile radio active timer increase.
And the MORE applications you have doing this, again, the more battery it will suck down.
Edit: Your example of pushbullet.... in order for that program to work, it needs to maintain persistent connections between each device you are using that program on, and the vendor's server. In order to maintain a persistent connection, packets have to be transferred across the route on a timed basis, where the time is less than the timeout on all of the routers along the route.
Conclusion: everything is working correctly as intended.
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really? thats normal? then how come noone else is really seeing this "issue" other people say they dont have this so how would it be "normal" ? not saying it isnt because I dont know enough to know, but i would imagine if it was normal behavior then it would be on everyone's phone.
No way it's normal. I use chrome beta and it clocked over 3 hours of Mobile Radio Active today. I still got great battery life, but when Chrome Beta takes 20% and your screen takes 10%, something is wrong. It's not continuously updating as someone above suggested. It's a bug. The mobile radio is being kept active for no reason by seemingly random apps. I really hope someone figures out how to fix this.
Any update on this?
I've tried 5.1 e, l and now I builds and they're all doing the same thing.
I've tried chroma ROM as well, along with stock, lean, Franco and code blue kernels.
I've never been able to shake this problem.
Anyone know what its about?
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Any update on this?
I've tried 5.1 e, l and now I builds and they're all doing the same thing.
I've tried chroma ROM as well, along with stock, lean, Franco and code blue kernels.
I've never been able to shake this problem.
Anyone know what its about?
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No one has even confirmed it is a problem yet. Unlikely anyone is working on it.
At first, I was thinking this was app related, but after looking at all my background and running apps, it seems they all have this "bug". However, mine don't seem to be running that as long, which in turn isn't showing a big battery drain. Hence the fact that I never noticed it.
I am guessing that it is some wakelock that is set by the app, but all apps that connect to the internet are using it. However, I looked on my flo which is running BrokenOs 5.0.1 and it doesn't have this mobile radio active process. I will be updating it to BrokenOs 5.1.0 here in a bit to see if it appears. If not, then we can limit it to just the shamu. If that is the case, then we just need to locate it, probably in the kernel, and decide what to do with it...
I'll follow up with my findings later...
I hope there is a solution!
For me it is the problem with Android 5 or the nexus 6. although i dont think it is a problem with the nexus 6. After my recognition are different models (nexus 4, 5, some Samsung devices, moto x...) affected after updating to lollipop.
I have also test different (stock-)roms/ different kernels/ disabled some services/ tested different radios/ factory resets and freezed some system- or deinstalled all 3rd Party apps/ changed the messenger...
No problem in wlan but with 4g/3g is the value of mobile radio active to high that some "apps" (gpservices, android os, hangouts, telegram, sometimes chrome) now are on top of the battery stats. With bbs or wld i cant find the reason.
tysonwald said:
really? thats normal? then how come noone else is really seeing this "issue" other people say they dont have this so how would it be "normal" ? not saying it isnt because I dont know enough to know, but i would imagine if it was normal behavior then it would be on everyone's phone.
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It *IS* on everyones phone.
Nobody is 'seeing' this, because there is nothing *TO* see. There is nothing *TO* see, because it is PERFECTLY NORMAL.
You can't seriously expect mobile data transfer to be done free of battery consumption, can you? It takes electricity to produce the electrical impulses that generate the radio waves that carry data to the remote cell tower. It takes electricity to run the radio processor cpu to receive and interpret the electrical impulses in the receiving antenna that are generated by the radio waves sent by the remote cell tower.
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It *IS* on everyones phone.
Nobody is 'seeing' this, because there is nothing *TO* see. There is nothing *TO* see, because it is PERFECTLY NORMAL.
You can't seriously expect mobile data transfer to be done free of battery consumption, can you? It takes electricity to produce the electrical impulses that generate the radio waves that carry data to the remote cell tower. It takes electricity to run the radio processor cpu to receive and interpret the electrical impulses in the receiving antenna that are generated by the radio waves sent by the remote cell tower.
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There is nothing to see when some apps on top of the battery stats (with 3g/4g) because of the high mobile radio active? Why are this value not so high on other devices with KitKat and then higher with lollipop?
Being connected to wifi for a period of time may help reveal more info.
Also, try using a whitelist firewall to only allow apps that you need to allow data. Or even block all traffic for a while and see what happens.
You could even block traffic on only cellular, and let only wifi pass traffic.
Another thing to verify would be whether airplane mode (wifi could be on) indeed causes the issue to completely go away as one would expect.
heres a silly qiestion.. how many of you arel seeing wifi always on even though you have scanning always enabled turned off in wifi settings? i noticed this last night, and thought that its unusual. i did get mine to finally turn off, but i had to delete nfc from my phone.
btw, you can check in the battery stats page. just press on the graph, and it takes you to another page.
simms22 said:
heres a silly qiestion.. how many of you arel seeing wifi always on even though you have scanning always enabled turned off in wifi settings? i noticed this last night, and thought that its unusual. i did get mine to finally turn off, but i had to delete nfc from my phone.
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I've seen threads by people with this problem. Never had it myself
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I've seen threads by people with this problem. Never had it myself
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i didnt notice any extra battery drain. a friend with a nexus 5 asked me about it last night, so i looked and mine was on. every setting was off. deleting the nfc app from /system/app/ fixed it. lol, i dont see how its related though.
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i didnt notice any extra battery drain. a friend with a nexus 5 asked me about it last night, so i looked and mine was on. every setting was off. deleting the nfc app from /system/app/ fixed it. lol, i dont see how its related though.
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Oh. I have NFC turned off also.
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Oh. I have NFC turned off also.
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turning it off did nothing for me. i tried that first :angel:
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turning it off did nothing for me. i tried that first :angel:
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I have also always got a constant wifi bar while being on lollipop and been surprised that I've not read more complaints. Have always scanning off.
Exactly which files did you remove and how?
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I can also confirm this. Even with everything turned off, I still get notifications of available WiFi networks. ???
I get it. Been on the road all day with no access to WiFi and WiFi is off as well as the option to let google scan for WiFi. I don't notice any battery drain. Looks like a bug
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ben_pyett said:
I have also always got a constant wifi bar while being on lollipop and been surprised that I've not read more complaints. Have always scanning off.
Exactly which files did you remove and how?
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if you have root.. i used root explorer, but any root file explorer should work. you go to /system/app/, then find the nfc app, delete it, then reboot. if you dont reboot, its not quite deleted yet. it is, but files are for it are still there.
phyba said:
I get it. Been on the road all day with no access to WiFi and WiFi is off as well as the option to let google scan for WiFi. I don't notice any battery drain. Looks like a bug
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real battery drain i didnt notice either
If WiFi is off in settings and it still shows I think its a bug, because if you check it with gsam it shows it being off. A reboot with WiFi off when you reboot will fix it. I had the same thing on my m8 and now with this device also. Its a lollipop bug.
simms22 said:
if you have root.. i used root explorer, but any root file explorer should work. you go to /system/app/, then find the nfc app, delete it, then reboot. if you dont reboot, its not quite deleted yet. it is, but files are for it are still there.
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Did you notice any actual benefit from doing this, ie increased battery, reduced power consumption etc
Down side is obviously lack of NFC although I don't actually use that so that's no impact
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ben_pyett said:
Did you notice any actual benefit from doing this, ie increased battery, reduced power consumption etc
Down side is obviously lack of NFC although I don't actually use that so that's no impact
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ill tell you tomorrow?
i only "fixed" it right before starting this thread. i dont ever use nfc, ok, once in 6 years, so its no issue here either. i actually normally delete it, but let it slide after 5.1.
simms22 said:
ill tell you tomorrow?
i only "fixed" it right before starting this thread. i dont ever use nfc, ok, once in 6 years, so its no issue here either. i actually normally delete it, but let it slide after 5.1.
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On thinking about it.
I always leave my WiFi on which would most likely explain this pattern, unless I'm misunderstanding how this should actually work.
For example, I leave my house, the device automatically switches from active WiFi and jumps on to mobile data, but I suppose WiFi is still on in the background, I have scanning setting set to off. But the WiFi must be constantly scanning for an active connection with valid Internet access, as whenever i pass an active WiFi zone that I'm permissioned to access the device will jump onto it and then when I leave it's signal cover it falls back to mobile data.
This would obviously explain the constant pattern.
If I manually stop WiFi then the bar disappears completely from battery statistics.
So no mystery after all or I have got this wrong.
Slightly confused as to the significance of the nfc removal now unless I've completely misunderstood your initial point.
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ben_pyett said:
On thinking about it.
I always leave my WiFi on which would most likely explain this pattern, unless I'm misunderstanding how this should actually work.
For example, I leave my house, the device automatically switches from active WiFi and jumps on to mobile data, but I suppose WiFi is still on in the background, I have scanning setting set to off. But the WiFi must be constantly scanning for an active connection with valid Internet access, as whenever i pass an active WiFi zone that I'm permissioned to access the device will jump onto it and then when I leave it's signal cover it falls back to mobile data.
This would obviously explain the constant pattern.
If I manually stop WiFi then the bar disappears completely from battery statistics.
So no mystery after all or I have got this wrong.
Slightly confused as to the significance of the nfc removal now unless I've completely misunderstood your initial point.
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i dont know how the nfc is connected either. but i do know, if all else fails, it works
I know that whenever I flash a new ROM, and get it booted up and then turn off WiFi that according to batt stats its still on. If you reboot it removes the signature from stats and it will show as it should.
I don't think this is a bug. It only looks like WiFi is always on in the battery history when you have your location services set to maximum or medium accuracy. So even if you switch WiFi off completely in WiFi settings the device will still use WiFi to pinpoint its location. If you select the lowest location accuracy setting, you should see that WiFi bar below the battery graph stop. At least that's how it used to work on my Nexus 5. I stopped worrying about it after that.
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SpaceGooner said:
I don't think this is a bug. It only looks like WiFi is always on in the battery history when you have your location services set to maximum or medium accuracy. So even if you switch WiFi off completely in WiFi settings the device will still use WiFi to pinpoint its location. If you select the lowest location accuracy setting, you should see that WiFi bar below the battery graph stop. At least that's how it used to work on my Nexus 5. I stopped worrying about it after that.
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Well if your running high accuracy all the time with wifi on then that makes sense but unless I'm mistaken that's not the issue. I can reproduce the false WiFi problem every ROM flash on two different devices running lollipop.
bill3508 said:
Well if your running high accuracy all the time with wifi on then that makes sense but unless I'm mistaken that's not the issue. I can reproduce the false WiFi problem every ROM flash on two different devices running lollipop.
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Fair enough. Like i said I only recall that by turning down location accuracy and turning off wifi on my N5 the device finally stopped reporting WiFi usage. On my N6 I have WiFi and high accuracy location on all the time so didn't realise there was a false reporting issue til seeing this thread. Hope it gets fixed in a future update I guess.
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simms22 said:
ill tell you tomorrow?
i only "fixed" it right before starting this thread. i dont ever use nfc, ok, once in 6 years, so its no issue here either. i actually normally delete it, but let it slide after 5.1.
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I'm seeing the same dang thing, my first thoughts were the WiFi only when plugged in or never, and then Google Location Services (making it device only), never thought NFC could be the culprit. I don't use it either, but I'd hate to think this feature that Google has been trying to push is putting WiFi on all the time, irrespective of if it's draining the battery.
I'm going to move the file from system and see how it goes.
Wouldn't freezing it yield the same outcome though? If yes, it'd be a slightly easier step for some.
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Several months ago out of nowhere the radio stopped working on my XT1921-3. When the phone initially booted up, I could see it get a 4g signal and then switch to no signal. I checked the sim and did some other troubleshooting but in the end I had to wipe the phone and flash the stock firmware to get service back.
This has happened several times since then so I've been trying different things to fix it. Last time it happened, I restored a backup of my data partition and that fixed the problem. So I have limited the issue to something data related and not system or firmware.
I don't know if it's a rogue app causing the issue or what. I guess that will be my next set of tests.
Has anyone else had this problem?
I have a XT1921-3 and i have experienced my data cut out (for 5-10 minutes) (or slow to some ungodly low speed that isn't good for anything..) several times over the last two months however my bar and in settings it says im still connected to LTE and in a few signal apps it says im online but there's clearly no data or if so it's dang sure not anything close to LTE. Sorry if this lil paragraph is worded a little different. Been working that OT.
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Added: I just toggle airplane mode and reboot but sometimes that doesn't even work. It's like when it's out it's out and signal isn't reading true.
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SM210 said:
I have a XT1921-3 and i have experienced my data cut out (for 5-10 minutes) (or slow to some ungodly low speed that isn't good for anything..) several times over the last two months however my bar and in settings it says im still connected to LTE and in a few signal apps it says im online but there's clearly no data or if so it's dang sure not anything close to LTE. Sorry if this lil paragraph is worded a little different. Been working that OT.
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Thanks for your post. I managed to update the E5 Factory Restoration thread with the latest firmware package for the E5 Play and I have not experienced the problem since. You might want to head over to that thread and download the latest. It might fix your issue as well.