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so about my screen...

So pretty much I ordered my nexus 7 right when it was announced, and due to a shipping error Google wanted another 8 weeks to get it to me from release so I canceled my order. Being the impatient idiot that I am I went and bought a new one off eBay. I am aware of the screen separation issue and it seems that it is affecting my unit on the left side of the screen. It annoys me a bit but I'll live. But my question is will the screen separation slowly get worse and spread? I haven't found a very clear answer.

I would say yes. Mine was 100% fine when I got it, 11 days ago and now has lift and creaking. Seems not as responsive. Sounds like bad first batch

mario24601 said:
I would say yes. Mine was 100% fine when I got it, 11 days ago and now has lift and creaking. Seems not as responsive. Sounds like bad first batch
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Hmm I really hope that isn't the case with mine because I don't think I'll be able to get Google to replace it because I bought it from eBay. I haven't noticed much of change with mine from day one, but it'd be nice to hear responses from a few other people so I know how screwed I am hahahaha

And I bet you paid 2x the price with no warranty so it can't be fixed now
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All N7s are under warranty. The hardware has a 1yr warranty. Google will fix it.
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And I bet you paid 2x the price with no warranty so it can't be fixed now
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Actually I paid the same price you would pay with tax, thanks for being constructive douche

player911 said:
All N7s are under warranty. The hardware has a 1yr warranty. Google will fix it.
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Thank you. I'm just not sure if its worth replacing at this time because of how back ordered the tablets are. I'm on vacation so I don't have the ability to talk to google right now I just hope the screen doesn't fall apart on me.

mossontree said:
Thank you. I'm just not sure if its worth replacing at this time because of how back ordered the tablets are. I'm on vacation so I don't have the ability to talk to google right now I just hope the screen doesn't fall apart on me.
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I got 2 defective N7's....returned them. My plan is to wait until the 2nd "batch" with no defects. Maybe in few months, I will try again.
You should probably return and do what I (and many others), are doing. Wait.
My thinking was, I paid $275 for this, and its defective. Did I come looking for a perfect tablet? Yes. Not a defective one. Its really your call, but I can tell you the problem won't get any better.
Cheers

Mine was just noticeable on day one, within days the screen was visibly moving just by handling the tablet.
So there is every chance it will get worse so I would say get it replaced.
By the same token, there is every chance a replacement will have the same problem and just as much chance that you will get a perfect unit that develops a fault later on.
Suppose it's down to what yo are prepared to put up with.
Personally, if it turned out every unit in the world had a problem I would live with it and just try to find a fix but knowing that there ARE perfeclt good units out there makes it harder to live with.

I'm planning on getting a warranty from squaretrade for the tablet. Mine is fine but just in case something develops down the line I like to have peace of mind

Eh. $40 for a $200 device seems a little much.

kinda off topic but
my screen started something very strange today..
it has these little lines about 1/2 inch long running up and down it at random locations. It looks kinda like some type of render tearing. When you twist the tablet from side to side they kinda glow then go away. They look off shades of the colors being produced by those pixels.. I just noticed this thread and thought i would post here instead of starting another Thread.. Hope you do not mind.
Its so faint i cant get a picture of it at all. Sorry about this.. My question is has anyone ever seen anything like this.. It reminds me of the grid if code on matrix but its not that bad . its always at the same position until you power off then they are right back but different / random locations. They are not lined up in any way except it runs same directing. vertically
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Have HTC recognised build issues ?

I genuinely hope mine comes perfect, but I was just wondering if anyone from HTC has came out to clarify some of the build issues such as gaps in the unibody.
Or if anyone has had contact directly with HTC highlighting these issues.
...and of course what actions HTC will be taking ?
I know the phone was initially delayed but it still seems as though people are receiving defective handsets.

The gap and speaker covers I think htc is looking at the glue for them
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Would be interested to know how many have been returned from the entire 1st large volume of retail units.

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Would be interested to know how many have been returned from the entire 1st large volume of retail units.
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same - a complete guess by me would probably be around 25-30% of XDA users with Ones just from seeing threads etc.
no idea for general people - theyre probably much less fussy

How often are fresh batches made? I mean is it done every couple of week, a month..
I'm thinking of getting the One in May.. Will that be a few batches in?

djbenny1 said:
same - a complete guess by me would probably be around 25-30% of XDA users with Ones just from seeing threads etc.
no idea for general people - theyre probably much less fussy
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Then again, it's usually the people with problems who post, so the sheer volume of the "my phone is defective" posts that you see may not be completely accurate either.

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How often are fresh batches made? I mean is it done every couple of week, a month..
I'm thinking of getting the One in May.. Will that be a few batches in?
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I'm sure that's late enough. I'm getting one when they hit stores here in the us, and when they come out I'm inspecting them at the store and ill have the sales person burn through the whole stock till I get a good one
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Xperia23 said:
I genuinely hope mine comes perfect, but I was just wondering if anyone from HTC has came out to clarify some of the build issues such as gaps in the unibody.
Or if anyone has had contact directly with HTC highlighting these issues.
...and of course what actions HTC will be taking ?
I know the phone was initially delayed but it still seems as though people are receiving defective handsets.
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im from the first batch no issues here, but i have heard that S4 users are weary of their initial batches, as the plastic used looks kinda cheap
I hops samsung are addressing their issues of making cheap mass produced phones

Xperia23 said:
I genuinely hope mine comes perfect, but I was just wondering if anyone from HTC has came out to clarify some of the build issues such as gaps in the unibody.
Or if anyone has had contact directly with HTC highlighting these issues.
...and of course what actions HTC will be taking ?
I know the phone was initially delayed but it still seems as though people are receiving defective handsets.
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In terms of gaps and other issues, that's a question of better fittings to fill the gaps. For things like speaker covers falling off, it's probably a glue issue.
Otherwise, there's basically zero issues. Compared to last year, HTC has improved a lot.

Mine is pretty flawless considering the issues that have been reported here. Just a super tiny gap at the top end of the display, but barely noticeable. Not gonna return it, would most likely get a worse one.

rkial said:
How often are fresh batches made? I mean is it done every couple of week, a month..
I'm thinking of getting the One in May.. Will that be a few batches in?
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Batches are daily
HTC will be focussing in the body issues and camera yields
I would say stricter QA began after 15th of march

Squirrel1620 said:
I'm sure that's late enough. I'm getting one when they hit stores here in the us, and when they come out I'm inspecting them at the store and ill have the sales person burn through the whole stock till I get a good one
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This ^^. Although I'm UK Midlands and I'll be having " one " ( pun ) from first batch.
I'll do exactly the same ha ha. I think I'll be ok, I just want to actually get the bloody device now !
The wait is killing me and my Arc S is just dying with its measly 512MBram.

A previous poster makes a good point - only people who have a problem (or a Samsung) are likely to post.
Just to try to redress that, I got my One on March 22nd - clearly an early batch.
It has no overhang, no gaps between the case and edging strip, no loose speaker grille - in fact absolutely no defect that I can find. Up to now, all features have worked perfectly.
This is, without doubt, the best quality and most exciting phone I have ever owned.

I think people forgot how bad things got last year. Last year the One X forums were LITTERED with massive issues. People talking about how the phone overheated to the point that the polycarbonate started to deform, how the display would flicker and corrupt, how there were lamination issues and yellow spots everywhere on the display. How their phone would creak and the massive gaps that would show. How their wifi antenna would break.
A year may seem like a long time ago, but it was only a year ago that the One X had horrible defect rates.

Hunt3r.j2 said:
I think people forgot how bad things got last year. Last year the One X forums were LITTERED with massive issues. People talking about how the phone overheated to the point that the polycarbonate started to deform, how the display would flicker and corrupt, how there were lamination issues and yellow spots everywhere on the display. How their phone would creak and the massive gaps that would show. How their wifi antenna would break.
A year may seem like a long time ago, but it was only a year ago that the One X had horrible defect rates.
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This time HTC will take care as company's future depends on HTC One. HTC really needs a hughly succesfull phone to get back into the business. HTC One X was their worst mistake in terms of QC.

Yup, mostly ppl with issues will complain about the phone, which is absolutely normal in the General or Q&A sections. So I think for the most part the rest don't have any issues. The S3 forums had many threads exposing problems as well, the Amoled screen on mine turned yellowish when tilted 20 degrees or so and there were many issues with black ink marks which made me and several other ppl angry even though it's an amazing phone.
I think it's normal to try and see if other ppl have the same issue and if there is a solution. Aside from the uneaven build quality which many early batches have I'd say that's very good issues wide.
I don't get why there could be issues between owners of HTC and Samsung, we're all supposed to be on the same side and trying to make android and our android phones better. Both phones are good no one can deny that

Will.1 said:
Yup, mostly ppl with issues will complain about the phone, which is absolutely normal in the General or Q&A sections. So I think for the most part the rest don't have any issues. The S3 forums had many threads exposing problems as well, the Amoled screen on mine turned yellowish when tilted 20 degrees or so and there were many issues with black ink marks which made me and several other ppl angry even though it's an amazing phone.
I think it's normal to try and see if other ppl have the same issue and if there is a solution. Aside from the uneaven build quality which many early batches have I'd say that's very good issues wide.
I don't get why there could be issues between owners of HTC and Samsung, we're all supposed to be on the same side and trying to make android and our android phones better. Both phones are good no one can deny that
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What is more funny is you have guys setting up threads complaining about the phone, when they dont even own one

I assume phone is now delayed due to build issues and also from what I hear camera issues be it software or hardware ?? Went to buy one from 3 the strand uk they had none but when I was looking to buy the manager got on the phone then said some are on the way. I asked about issues and he basically avoided the questions so asked about stock levels and he wouldn't tell me. I was put off by the staffs shady behaviour so it convinced me to wait for 64gb which was advertised on an in store flyer. I asked about it and manager said they wont get it. Just felt like they were not being honest want the phone now but decided to wait. Just hope 64gb is released in uk!!!
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AW: Have HTC recognised build issues ?
Please, close this thread!
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Gaps in the unibody is a completely made up issue imo. I have still not seen a gap in the construction in any photo posted here. I have seen small gaps, as thin as a hair, where the speaker grille attaches. This is not the zero-gap unibody, it's a speaker grille. This phone is built better than probably any phone on the market today, or in recent memory. All of the whining about "poor build quality" sounds childish and is undeserved by HTC. If anything they deserve some praise for the incredibly GOOD build quality of the One.

dont know what to do

planning to buy this phone but i am afraid that i will catch one with a bad camera (camera creating purple/pink tint for the indoor pictures)
i read some forums and i don't know if its a software problem or hardware...the main problem is that i will buy new in the box sealed but with no warranty..... somebody can help with an advice
the statistic is making me worried :http://forum.xda-developers.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=14531

Pretty much every HTC One has or will get this problem. Its your decision and on daylight its a very very good camera.

Atrax_ said:
Pretty much every HTC One has or will get this problem. Its your decision and on daylight its a very very good camera.
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so it's possible in time to get this problem with the camera?

teapa said:
so it's possible in time to get this problem with the camera?
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Many phones got this problem even after sending it back to htc for fixing. Nobody really knows if its software or hardware sided.

I would recommend Nexus 5 instead. If you think that camera will be an issue than please don't take the risk. It's your hard earned $600 that you are spending. Go for the maximum utility, satisfaction. If low light camera capability is important for you, this phone is not worthy of a phone.
Written from a user who has this issue, and had no success in getting it fixed via HTC.
Sent from my HTC One

Bottom line this is the best phone ever made. Most cameras are fine just check everything out when you get the phone. 4.3 update is rolling out. Get a good case like Otterbox Commuter and a screen protector. Use Nova launcher. Here is my homescreen
Http://onlinedivorceclass.net/s9.png

I've had this phone since day 1 and have no had any issues with the camera.
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after reading more threads i came to the conclusion that it's hardware problem
they are two microchips near to the camera and by heating up they ar disturbing the senzor...
pity i liked very much how the phone looks:crying:

shehade08 said:
I've had this phone since day 1 and have no had any issues with the camera.
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to check you camera make a small (3-4 mins) full hd video and after try to take a picture on low light conditions

I bought my phone in May and by July it started developing the purple tint. While it's not guaranteed that you will get the purple tint, there have been lots of people who do.
Don't get me wrong. I still love my One especially for the Boomsound and LCD display. But I can live with the camera issues cos I use several phones concurrently so I just use another phone if I have to use the camera.
Ultimately it's your call. But my advice is pay extra for the warranty. Especially for this model. Cos if you start getting problems, without warranty you will have no recourse.
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3rd phone here and have not had this camera issue on any of the 3

All phones from all brands got hardware/software issues. You can run but you can't hide.
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twerg said:
3rd phone here and have not had this camera issue on any of the 3
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seems that in Australia arrived a good stock :good: yes it's very strange that some people they have the issue and some not
can you check something for me please :....Camera cinesensor version - whit ES File Explorer(free market app) (does not have to be rooted). Navigate: Device > sys > android_camera > sensor*
should look like this (exemple):...FA---07/16/2013---st vd6869(1.0) cinesensor 2013-05-24---4.2.2---1.10.605.8---4mos---YES
and post yours...

Albert Poon said:
All phones from all brands got hardware/software issues. You can run but you can't hide.
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This is the sad truth =\

I'm on my 5th phone. The 4 previous phones had other hardware/build issues but none had the camera problem. My sensor is...st vd6869(1.0) cinesensor 2013-05-11.

teapa said:
seems that in Australia arrived a good stock :good: yes it's very strange that some people they have the issue and some not
can you check something for me please :....Camera cinesensor version - whit ES File Explorer(free market app) (does not have to be rooted). Navigate: Device > sys > android_camera > sensor*
should look like this (exemple):...FA---07/16/2013---st vd6869(1.0) cinesensor 2013-05-24---4.2.2---1.10.605.8---4mos---YES
and post yours...
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Date of sensor manufactured means nothing. Check these surveys taken from various HTC One users:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AjO9q8zl_pDrdE4yMnFDOHNKRUhWeFdzajBnZ2FMVHc
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1s6dlGcFbdsOglMPXP2UCFIWDM4AEW-Y4ogdHPiIkhyU/viewanalytics
You said you won't have warranty, then you are really playing with fire. I advise you to stop wasting time with this phone if you believe that the issue will be a problem for you.
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Thug_4_Life said:
Date of sensor manufactured means nothing. Check these surveys taken from various HTC One users:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AjO9q8zl_pDrdE4yMnFDOHNKRUhWeFdzajBnZ2FMVHc
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1s6dlGcFbdsOglMPXP2UCFIWDM4AEW-Y4ogdHPiIkhyU/viewanalytics
You said you won't have warranty, then you are really playing with fire. I advise you to stop wasting time with this phone if you believe that the issue will be a problem for you.
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i already seen this two statistics that way i asked your cinesensor... one think i don't understand if HTC company they knew about the issue why they didn't just made the new batch with a hardware fix
even if i never owned had the phone i am loving it.. and buying without warranty its not about the money it's about disponibility

teapa said:
even if i never owned had the phone i am loving it..
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Idk what kind of answer you want as you already said that you love the phone even after considering the facts that you don't own the phone and are aware of the purple tint issue. After all, you make your own choice, we can only help.
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st vd6869(1.0) cinesensor 2013-02-18
Bought mine on day one of it's release in Taiwan and have had no issues with the camera.

teapa said:
after reading more threads i came to the conclusion that it's hardware problem
they are two microchips near to the camera and by heating up they ar disturbing the senzor...
pity i liked very much how the phone looks:crying:
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100% sure it's software, most phone I have had have had purple/pink or greenish tones in some circumstances which could be corrected with whitebalance settings. My one had purple pictures too after 422 upgrade but now is fine again after 4.3 but maybe not sensor are 100% the same and it might take a little more tweaking by htc to get it right. The One is the best arounfd 5 inch phone out there by a long shot, sense rocks, boomsound, I couldn't live without it anymore, zoes are awesome, the live gallery, blinkfeed. All in all the One is so much better than the SGS4, only if you wany a phablet I would consider another phone.....
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teapa said:
i already seen this two statistics that way i asked your cinesensor... one think i don't understand if HTC company they knew about the issue why they didn't just made the new batch with a hardware fix
even if i never owned had the phone i am loving it.. and buying without warranty its not about the money it's about disponibility
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only 37 people responded, there are thousands of One users on XDA who probably don't have any problems at all and therefor never checked that thread or bothered to respond

[Q] How bad is the cracking problem?

I've seen plenty of threads on this forum and the Sony official forums, about Xperia Z screens "spontaneously" cracking (i.e. not after any sort of obvious trauma). I've seen one or two cracked-screen posts here on the Z1 forums, and a few that ominously predict that the Z1 will be "just as bad" over time.
Is this true? Are there a few loud outliers with bad luck, getting bad phones and getting screwed by customer service? Or is this really an epidemic, and a good reason to avoid buying the Z1?
At this point I'm probably down to the HTC One versus the Xperia Z1, and I've never heard of any durability issues with the HTC One. I'd really hate to spend tons of money on the Z1 then regret it a week later when my screen is in tiny pieces....

It's the reason I have a Z1, my old Z just cracked out of the blue whilst on the dash of a work van, it wasn't particularly sunny or hot, just cracked, the crack grew and eventually the screen stopped working completely.

Mine fell on the floor naked twice and no cracks... Pretty solid, I have a tpu case now to not test it again
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I've seen plenty of threads on this forum
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Not a single one.
After listening to an aria at the opera maybe? lol
Tempered glass/windows may have crack issues when thermal stressed. But I doubt smartphone glasses are affected by this problem.

jamespmi said:
Not a single one.
After listening to an aria at the opera maybe? lol
Tempered glass/windows may have crack issues when thermal stressed. But I doubt smartphone glasses are affected by this problem.
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Hoo boy. I don't know if it will let me post this many links but:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2591972&highlight=crack ("by itself")
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2205591&highlight=crack (#1 "I don't know how", #3, #6 "Same here")
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2590993&highlight=crack
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2419714&highlight=crack (see also #18)
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z-ZL-ZR/Xperia-z-glass-back-cracked-on-it-s-own/td-p/321733
I'm pretty sure I could find more but you probably get the idea. Obviously as a prospective buyer this is a significant concern... *if* it hasn't been fixed between the Z and the Z1.

Kirkymole said:
It's the reason I have a Z1, my old Z just cracked out of the blue whilst on the dash of a work van, it wasn't particularly sunny or hot, just cracked, the crack grew and eventually the screen stopped working completely.
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Did you get it replaced under warranty, or did you have to pay out of pocket? I'm buying off-contract here (hooray for European pay-as-you-go pricing!) so it's a pretty big deal if I shell out over €400 for a phone then have to just throw it away (or pay big bucks for a new screen) in a few weeks or months.

Ghengis042 said:
Did you get it replaced under warranty, or did you have to pay out of pocket? I'm buying off-contract here (hooray for European pay-as-you-go pricing!) so it's a pretty big deal if I shell out over €400 for a phone then have to just throw it away (or pay big bucks for a new screen) in a few weeks or months.
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I basically made enough fuss at my network they agreed to upgrade my contract early (after only 11 months rather than 18 which is the norm over here)
I wouldn't even consider paying for a new handset, and I never do. I put up with using a Blackberry 9810 (not a bad phone actually) for a month while me and my network 'negotiated' which ended up with me telling them if they didn't help me get a phone for the minimal cost I'd stop paying the direct debit bills and let them eventually take me to court, where I'd call them up on breaching my contract on their end.
They chickened out of that, gave in and handed over the Z1. I should point out most networks won't be that forgiving, I've been having persistent trouble with them for 11 months! No signal at my home address, frequently taking more out of my direct debit than they should have been, texts not sending and receiving properly, selling me two defective Blackberry 9320s when my XZ screen broke (I got the 9810 off a friend), changing my price plan without my authorisation and generally messing me around. When I finally spoke to a manager, he was sympathetic.

Help regarding Mi3 indian ver

Hey guys from many time i am thinking to buy mi3 but i am thinking is the indian ver really realiabe for long term use as i usually dont change phone for 2 Years.also i am reading reviews regarding people getting defective piece from flipkart.and flipkart also not listening for replacement once you pay for the phone. Is it safe to buy this phone from flipkart?as i have not yet bought anything from flipkart.plz help me
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Firstly it is very reliable according to me. There's is a small chance of a manufacturing defect. Every phone has it. My HTC had it too.
Secondly the phone is no longer available on Flipkart.

I am not talking about normal manufacturing defefts.i am talking abt big one.like call speaker not working.touch screen problem.etc.etc.we cant live with these defects.it is temporary not available.but i am sure it will be available after some time
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That could be an issue with any phone. But most phones don't have any defect. Mine didn't have. Also I talked to the customer care guy and he told me that in case of any problem Flipkart would replace it or the service center guys would fix it without any extra charge.
Yea, maybe in a month or so it'll be available again.

its worth buying, go get it.... i had mine and have no defects.....:thumbup:

lol. Even if you decided to buy one now, U won't get it . Cool device mate. Just go for it. if you don't like it... sell it. ppl will die for one.

Somyab said:
Hey guys from many time i am thinking to buy mi3 but i am thinking is the indian ver really realiabe for long term use as i usually dont change phone for 2 Years.also i am reading reviews regarding people getting defective piece from flipkart.and flipkart also not listening for replacement once you pay for the phone. Is it safe to buy this phone from flipkart?as i have not yet bought anything from flipkart.plz help me
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Well few defects are being reported as seem the new lot has it as I bought almost 5 phones till now gifting my brother and sis and few to xda user and till now just one reported of heating issue which was replaced in a day by flipkart after approval of return which took 2 days.

Great Hardware.
I am using one from last two weeks and i can say hardware is greeeeat. From hardware prospective only downside is limited internal storage.
Flipcart is very safe if you buy anything from WSRetail.
However when it comes to software I really did not like MIUI (can also say hate it) . It is heavily customized fork of Andriod and not in a good way. It's stable releases are also full of bugs and useless features. MIUI forum is full of fan boys and their dev team seems like more focused on features than stability, and don't get me started on the UI of V6, which resembles IOS in so many ways
If you are a fan of rooting, Xposed and tweaking you would not like MIUI at all. You can do all this but not in normal easy way. If you are a regular/normal user then it is the device for you.
They stopped it's sale for couple of months now so you need to wait till then.
On a side note, If Varun will not come up with a fully working CM without kernel sources in next few weeks then I might think to sell mine.

Don't go for it now. Wait for Mi4 or xiaomi to make spares available. Check this out for more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2898350