[Q] Mass Storage Mode? - Moto X Q&A

I was shocked/appalled to find that my brand new MotoX doesn't support true Mass Storage mode. Just MTP and PTP which doesn't give you true unfettered access to the files on the "sdcard". It was bad enough the device has no actual SD Card, but I figured I would at least be able to connect and transfer files at high speed. I understand the device is using ext partitioning now, but I have ext support in my OS and want access to the dang files. MTP and PTP just don't cut it. Anyone had any luck enabling true UMS on MotoX or is it disabled at the kernel level?

Not ext. F2FS.
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robross0606 said:
I was shocked/appalled to find that my brand new MotoX doesn't support true Mass Storage mode. Just MTP and PTP which doesn't give you true unfettered access to the files on the "sdcard". It was bad enough the device has no actual SD Card, but I figured I would at least be able to connect and transfer files at high speed. I understand the device is using ext partitioning now, but I have ext support in my OS and want access to the dang files. MTP and PTP just don't cut it. Anyone had any luck enabling true UMS on MotoX or is it disabled at the kernel level?
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It's something that Google did away with starting with Jellybean. There has been a few programs that worked with the Samsung galaxy phones. You can search and see if they work. I never got it to work on my Atrix HD when I was using it.
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From what I'm reading, it has to do with the lack of an actual separate SD Card partition with FAT32. UMS requires a block device so they would have to give use direct full access to the entire file tree. Moreover, the entire file tree is EXT4 and not FAT32 so even if it was exposed you wouldn't be able to read it in Windows without a 3rd party driver.
They're moving swiftly away from SD Card support which was one of the big reasons I supported Android over IOS. I haven't found any app which worked yet. I ultimately had to use FTP to transfer the files which was absurdly slow by comparison. This, coupled with the crappy AMOLED display and burn-in concerns, has me thinking I may send this Moto X back.

USB mass storage mode works in Windows 7. On osx this should work for rootered users.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2175747
Edit & yes AFT dmg [mac] sucks sucks sucks.

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internal Storage Problem

Hello, I have an HTC Touch diamond from Telus, i've searched around these forums, and can't find quite the similar problem I have. My device only lists 102.55 MB of internal storage in the settings, and when i try to the Clear Storage program it says it can't find the mass storage, is this fixable or do i have to take it back to Telus.
Are you sure? If you click on "memory" in "settings" the first screen you get ("main" tab) only refers to the ROM and RAM available. You need to click on the "storage card" tab to find the 4Gb of internal storage
battlekat said:
Hello, I have an HTC Touch diamond from Telus, i've searched around these forums, and can't find quite the similar problem I have. My device only lists 102.55 MB of internal storage in the settings, and when i try to the Clear Storage program it says it can't find the mass storage, is this fixable or do i have to take it back to Telus.
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I am experiencing the same issue with the Sprint version I received today. Same issue with the Clear Storage program. When I go to settings, memory, storage card, it says "Total Storage Card Memory: Not installed"
Thanks.
Can you find the internal storage using file explorer on the HTC and explorer on activsync on your PC? Have you suceeded in copying something to it using activsync? If you can it is there. Why it is not being reported in memory is not so clear
A problem which I had a few times ocured when I tried to start a programm on the internal storage whil it was conected to a pc as a internal storage then the Diamond gives the internal storage a other name such as internal storage 1, 2 etc
Have a look at your file explorer you maid find it there.
Willem
Slight variation on this topic but related.
Can someone tell me if there are hidden files or something similar on the internal storage?
When I look at All settings -> system -> memory, it says that there is 2725MB in use but if I total the individual values for each folder in my internal storage it only adds up to 2122MB. It's driving me mad as space is limited enough as it is...
In a response to an earlier query, if you plugin your device as a mass storage device, the Internal Storage is unmounted from the phone's system so you cannot use it, and when you try to launch an application which requires this internal storage you can run into big problems of it "creating" a new Internal Storage. By this time when you unplug your device from the computer it will then rename your actual Internal Storage to Internal Storage 1/2 and you will have to go into file explorer and delete this, then reconnect your device to the computer and it should be ok again when you disconnect it.
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In a response to an earlier query, if you plugin your device as a mass storage device, the Internal Storage is unmounted from the phone's system so you cannot use it, and when you try to launch an application which requires this internal storage you can run into big problems of it "creating" a new Internal Storage. By this time when you unplug your device from the computer it will then rename your actual Internal Storage to Internal Storage 1/2 and you will have to go into file explorer and delete this, then reconnect your device to the computer and it should be ok again when you disconnect it.
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A good point. To give you an example of how this works. I installed TT6 by putting my (legitimate) CAB file maps etc onto the internal memory by setting it as a USB device and using drag and drop in Explorer. The moment I disconnected the phone from the PC it re-recognised the internal memory and ran the TomTom auto-installation app. It is exactly the same as inserting an SD card into an SD slot of any other PDA.
Having same issue. I deleted the contents and the folder Internal Storage and am doing a hard reset. Will post results.
BTW - HTC and Sprint really should have a better solution to fixing this rather than all this mess. Even the ipod is easier to remount when you unplug during sync and I thought that was annoying....
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BTW - HTC and Sprint really should have a better solution to fixing this rather than all this mess. Even the ipod is easier to remount when you unplug during sync and I thought that was annoying....
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I think you may have misunderstood what we are saying. This problem only occurs when you choose the (non-default) option of the PC recognising the internal storage as a seperate USB drive rather than as an activsync connection when you make your connection to the PC. If you choose that option then no automatic activsync activity will occur when you dock because activsync will not start. On the other hand file transfers will be much quicker and easier and you can use drag and drop in your PC's explorer.
If you decide not to use this facility then activsync works fine and you should have no problems with automated syncing and unplugging whilst that is happening (although that latter action is not recomended with either Windows or Apple based phones or PDAs).
The main advantage that Windows based PDAs and phones have over Apple based ones are that they are much more easily changed (as most of these forums show!) and "tweaked" to suit what the end user wants. Apple is more "technology for technophobes". However the disadvantage with the Windows system is that there is more for the end user to bugger up - hence all the cries for help on this forum.
No I understood what you meant. I was just comparing the issue. When Internal Storage still shows up under My Device but does not show up under Memory it tells me that the phone has "un mounted" the memory. The question is how do you re-mount this? Unless i am missing something which I very well may be....this appears to be the issue. At least the one I am faced with.
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No I understood what you meant. I was just comparing the issue. When Internal Storage still shows up under My Device but does not show up under Memory it tells me that the phone has "un mounted" the memory. The question is how do you re-mount this? Unless i am missing something which I very well may be....this appears to be the issue. At least the one I am faced with.
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You remount it by returning the HTC to its standard activsync setting, via its settings menu You can do that while it is still connected to the PC and when you hit OK activsync instantly starts and syncs. In addition Explorer recognises it as a mobile device rather than the removable storage when it was in USB mode.
I do not think it is correct to compare an additional Windows feature (that the Apple does not have) with the standard feature that the Apple does have. A more accurate comparison would be the two in the same activsync mode, in which case they are similar, and neither has this problem
At the end of the day if anybody does not like the extra facility the HTC has to show and use its internal storage in the same way as a memory card when hooked up to the PC (because of its disadvantages) then they should not use it and they should stick with activsync. At least in Windows world we have the option.
WOW!
Dropping the ipod reference and my apologies for stepping on toes by mentioning it.
Setting it to active sync or hard drive has NO affect on this what so ever. I wish it did as it would be an easy fix. Apparently during any kind of disconnect the memory module freaks out and it corrupts the file system. That is apparently why the phone will not recognize it. Some people have had success connecting the phone over and over to a computer until it mounts the drive and then via the computer they format the drive and then hard reset and its fixed.
In this case its very similar as the HTC device will not remount the memory module. I contacted HTC and they verified that its a problem and have recommended an RMA to sprint.
Personally I don't even buy the HTC response. There has to be a way to remount the memory back to the phone as the drive will occasionally show up even in windows. It just wont allow a format as it locks up.
Oops sorry if I sounded a tad touchy... . I really did not mean to upset.
It is just that I think that Apple are really good at marketing to the "cool fool" market, and persuading people that they are technologically more advanced than they really are. The classic example of this is the iphone that was trumpetted as having lots of "new" benefits, which had been on other competitor's phones for ages. The only thing cutting edge about them is their ease of use (which is I have to admit very good)
However I do not have the problem you are describing with my HTC touch diamond, and nor, I suspect, do the vast majority of other users. My memory module has never freaked out and corrupted my file system no matter how many times I connect or disconnect and no matter how I do it. So I suspect it is not a universal HTC problem, but one limited to the way that Sprint and maybe others (I assume in the US?) have implemented the software, or maybe on a rogue batch of hardware or software?
No worries...text does that some times.
Yeah I think its pretty much a US thing. PPCGEEKS has a thread going about it and it appears to be all sprint phone related.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=37485
So far what I have is this: When using file explorer, under My Device Is a folder called Internal Storage. When I go into settings to check memory, I have Storage & Program, 102.55MB and 203.84MB, respectively, that's Total. In the Storage card tab, it says Not installed. And when i try to clear storage and format internal storage it says "no Mass Storage found"
So I hopped over to PPC and this is what I found, unfortunately i'm going to work so no time but will try and report later on.
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Ok, here is what worked for me.
Hard reset - Connect to PC, Once connected as a USB Drive, VERY IMPORTANT - Don't try to open drive, only right click.
Choose Format, FAT32, Quick Format. It took about 5 seconds, then soft reset and it is up right now... We will see.
No go, Vista won't recognize my diamond as a drive hence no format...
I now know what I did wrong, I copied the internal storage to pc then back again using the disk function instead of AS. I now have internal storage2 showing and can't access any programs.
Can anyone tell me how to rename I.S.2 to I.S please.
delete the Internal Storage folder (which will just be a folder) with total commander, resco explorer or file explorer, then connect ur phone to ur pc in disk mode, then disconnect and it should rename back!

Running out of space

I am relatively new to Android and can't figure out how to install apps to my external sd card. My internal 11 GB is almost full so I want to move some larger games to the external card. Please help.
Look for apps2sd in Google play store..
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Thanks, I tried that app just now and it doesn't do anything different than what the built in system tools does. It just keys me move apps on the phone to the sd card. My question is how can I move apps from my sd card (internal) to my external card to save space and have the same functionality a if the were installed in the phone. It would be cool if you could just install apps like you can on a 32 GB iPhone.
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Thanks, I tried that app just now and it doesn't do anything different than what the built in system tools does. It just keys me move apps on the phone to the sd card. My question is how can I move apps from my sd card (internal) to my external card to save space and have the same functionality a if the were installed in the phone. It would be cool if you could just install apps like you can on a 32 GB iPhone.
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Thursday, March 29, 2012
GMan901 & XDA Members:
If you're willing to shell out the cash for a Micro-SDXC card, I can show you how to swap your internal and external storage (SD cards). In my case, I started out with a 16GB GT-N7000 (International Note) and an 8GB Micro-SD card. I had apps installed on my internal SD card and would put all of my media (music, photos, videos) on my external storage (8GB Micro-SD card); but in the end, it wasn't enough. I ended up running out of space on my internal storage anyway; and considering that there's no way to replace the internal storage, I had to find another solution.
Now, on paper the Galaxy Note officially supports a maximum of 32GB of external storage. However, several sources have confirmed that the Galaxy Note (at least the GT-N7000 anyway) is capable of supporting Micro-SDXC cards of up to 64GB in size, and possibly even larger. However, no matter how large your external storage is, it's still your external storage. Now, if you were able to swap your internal and external storage, you'd have a fixed, 11.5GB external SD card that you would never be able to change, but you would also now have an internal SD card that you could increase or decrease in size whenever you like. In my case, I currently have a 32GB Samsung class 10 Micro-SD card that I bought on Amazon and configured to be my internal storage. Also, If I ever need more internal storage, all I have to do is purchase a larger card, copy all of the files from the old card to it, and insert it into my phone. It really is a great setup. If you're interested in trying this, just let me know and I'll post the necessary file(s) and instructions.
Also, it sounds to me like you are a former iPhone user. If you are, you should know that I am as well. As a matter of fact, it was the new iPhone 4S that I switched to Android from. At first, I found the transition to be..... less than smooth. However, with a little help from the good people here at XDA, I was able to not only make the transition, but also discover just how much more powerful Android is in comparison to iOS. In all fairness though, iOS is, for lack of a better term, the perfect "everyman" mobile OS. But if power, control, and versatility are your bag, Android is the way to go. So if you are in fact a recent iOS-to-Android convert, please let me know. I'd be happy to help show you the ropes.
Let me know if you'd like to swap your phone's internal and external storage; and also let me know if you've recently ditched iOS. In addition to the internal/external storage swap trick, there are a plethora of other tricks, hacks, mods, and techniques that can be used on Android to yield an almost infinite number of effects, changes, and improvements. Android is very tinker-friendly. So just let mw know how new you are to it, and I can show you all kinds of stuff.
Thank you,
Ed (Mister_Mxyzptlk)
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Heck yeah, I would like to know! Yes, I was an iPhone user since 2007. A long as I don't need to root my phone out install a custom firmware, I would really like to know how to use my 32 micro sd card versus the ridiculous 11 GB the Note gives you to install apps and games. I barely had enough room to install Real racing 2.
gman901 said:
Heck yeah, I would like to know! Yes, I was an iPhone user since 2007. A long as I don't need to root my phone out install a custom firmware, I would really like to know how to use my 32 micro sd card versus the ridiculous 11 GB the Note gives you to install apps and games. I barely had enough room to install Real racing 2.
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Well, you will need to root your phone, but it's a completely reversible process. And if you do it correctly, you won't even trip the flash counter.
Anyway, we need to start with what build you're currently running. Could you check "Settings > About Phone" and let me know what build you're currently running. With any luck, it'll be a build that lets you use the ZergRush exploit. That way you won't have to downgrade your phone first.
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Hi Mister_Mxyzptlk,
I have the same doubt/need... I would love to learn more from your experience.
I am rooted and my build # is GINGERBREAD.XXKL7.
I don't mean to hijack this thread!
thanks in advance!
do you also repartition in the process of switching?
Same Problem
Mister_Mxyzptlk said:
Well, you will need to root your phone, but it's a completely reversible process. And if you do it correctly, you won't even trip the flash counter.
Anyway, we need to start with what build you're currently running. Could you check "Settings > About Phone" and let me know what build you're currently running. With any luck, it'll be a build that lets you use the ZergRush exploit. That way you won't have to downgrade your phone first.
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Are you still able to provide info. REALLY WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
Thanks.
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Root your phone, put the sd card in a card reader for your pc, make a second partition on your sd card (Fat32 oder Ext4), get the app Link2SD and your good to go.
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altae said:
Root your phone, put the sd card in a card reader for your pc, make a second partition on your sd card (Fat32 oder Ext4), get the app Link2SD and your good to go.
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Thanks, but I don't have card reader, can I use phone to partition sd card.
You can have a look at my signature
I used two apks I found on here. They literally swap memory. My SD shows as 64gig USB and acts like USB.
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storage space running out
altae said:
Root your phone, put the sd card in a card reader for your pc, make a second partition on your sd card (Fat32 oder Ext4), get the app Link2SD and your good to go.
Sent from my revived Galaxy Note
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Thanks....but still get above error.
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Thanks, but I don't have card reader, can I use phone to partition sd card.
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You can by connecting your device to a pc in mass storage mode and using a partitioning software. But it's kind of tricky. I tried several times to no avail so in the end I got myself a card reader. I recommend you to do the same, they are cheap nowadays. It's far more reliable than trying to do it with your phone.
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cm10 nook color 5gb internal problem

so my nook is showing 1 gb data and 5 gb internal media but it wont allow me to install apps to the internal media on cm10 and it did on cm9
anyone else have this problem?
infektedpc said:
so my nook is showing 1 gb data and 5 gb internal media but it wont allow me to install apps to the internal media on cm10 and it did on cm9
anyone else have this problem?
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It does not install apps to internal media anyway. It installs them to /data unless you tell them to install to SD. And on CM7, if you did not have an SD, you could swap emmc and sdcard so that apps are fooled. Maybe that is how you did it. CM10 does not have that feature implemented get.
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infektedpc said:
so my nook is showing 1 gb data and 5 gb internal media but it wont allow me to install apps to the internal media on cm10 and it did on cm9
anyone else have this problem?
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You can have a larger data partition. Instructions are elsewhere in this forum.
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infektedpc said:
so my nook is showing 1 gb data and 5 gb internal media but it wont allow me to install apps to the internal media on cm10 and it did on cm9
anyone else have this problem?
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Thanks for the info guys
Internal Storage for Media
leapinlar said:
It does not install apps to internal media anyway. It installs them to /data unless you tell them to install to SD. And on CM7, if you did not have an SD, you could swap emmc and sdcard so that apps are fooled. Maybe that is how you did it. CM10 does not have that feature implemented get.
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Hi Leapinlar. Thanks for tips thread and for the partition repair scripts. I have done multiple intalls to emmc trying to rectify an internal storage issue. Unlike the user above, I'm not trying to install apps to the media partition, just trying to save files(pictures) to internal storage. My media partition is currently 4.2 gigs, but each time I try to save or open the gallery a message pops up that "no sd card is present." I am new to the NC but not to rooting, and have had a really good experiences with CM and Kang builds on a Galaxy S2. I have never used an sd card on my phone and media files save to the internal storage with no issues whatsoever, so I'm wondering if the CM nightlies for NC are so radically different than the JB rom on my phone as to cause errors in accessing the internal storage on the NC. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
crcook60 said:
Hi Leapinlar. Thanks for tips thread and for the partition repair scripts. I have done multiple intalls to emmc trying to rectify an internal storage issue. Unlike the user above, I'm not trying to install apps to the media partition, just trying to save files(pictures) to internal storage. My media partition is currently 4.2 gigs, but each time I try to save or open the gallery a message pops up that "no sd card is present." I am new to the NC but not to rooting, and have had a really good experiences with CM and Kang builds on a Galaxy S2. I have never used an sd card on my phone and media files save to the internal storage with no issues whatsoever, so I'm wondering if the CM nightlies for NC are so radically different than the JB rom on my phone as to cause errors in accessing the internal storage on the NC. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Yes, the Nooks are different than many phones. On many phones, the internal media storage is named "sdcard". And external cards end up getting called something like "ext_sdcard". That way when apps look for "sdcard" to store their books, music, whatever, it ends up using internal storage. But for the Nooks, internal storage is called "emmc" and only external cards get called "sdcard ". And since many apps will not run unless it can find "sdcard", CM7 has a setting that lets you swap emmc and sdcard. So internal storage gets called "sdcard" and external cards get called "emmc". That is for users that have no external card inserted. But that is not yet implemented in CM10. So until that does get implemented the work around is to insert an external card. There are hacks you can use, but most are not simple.
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Yes, the Nooks are different than many phones. On many phones, the internal media storage is named "sdcard". And external cards end up getting called something like "ext_sdcard". That way when apps look for "sdcard" to store their books, music, whatever, it ends up using internal storage. But for the Nooks, internal storage is called "emmc" and only external cards get called "sdcard ". And since many apps will not run unless it can find "sdcard", CM7 has a setting that lets you swap emmc and sdcard. So internal storage gets called "sdcard" and external cards get called "emmc". That is for users that have no external card inserted. But that is not yet implemented in CM10. So until that does get implemented the work around is to insert an external card. There are hacks you can use, but most are not simple.
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Great info, thanks. I'm rather techy, but it's funny how the more you know, the more you realize there is to learn. I only mentioned my phone as it seemed a fair reference point as it is running AKOP JB, and the settings for it and the Nook are all but identical. Storage settings on both devices show two partitions( is that the term?) each labeled "internal storage" the first on each dedicated to data and the second to media. On the Nook that media portion seems inaccessible even from a PC; it shows up as "My Nook Color," or some such, if I connect as an MTP device, but if I attempt to drag and drop a file a message pops up saying the device has stopped or has been disconnected, even though it is clearly visible and connected. I believe your tips has a link for fixing adb/usb(?) but I haven't gotten that far yet. It is fun to be learning a new device and your guides are invaluable. I picked up the NC as a refurb, full warranty, for $75 so it was hard to pass up. Now that I'm fairly certain all partitions are healthy( thank you) I think I will move back to a larger data partition, pop in an sd card and just enjoy the Nook and continue to learn as I go by following your work and suggestions. As an aside, I have had zero performance issues with the CM 10 nightlies beyond a tiny bit of lag here and there and continue to be amazed that there is so much life in the older hardware. Again, thank you.
You may want to try USB mass storage rather than MTP. Go to settings, storage, menu, USB computer connection, and check off mass storage rather than MTP. MTP can be flaky sometimes. After you plug in the cable, you need to go to the notification area and enable the computer connection.
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Thanks again for the info I reformatted to the 5gb data and 1gb emmc. Much better now. I'm still very new to this forum but have been reading it for awhile now. You guys are the best
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infektedpc said:
Thanks again for the info I reformatted to the 5gb data and 1gb emmc. Much better now. I'm still very new to this forum but have been reading it for awhile now. You guys are the best
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Good job! And welcome to the strange and wonderful world of "Nookering"!
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leapinlar said:
You may want to try USB mass storage rather than MTP. Go to settings, storage, menu, USB computer connection, and check off mass storage rather than MTP. MTP can be flaky sometimes. After you plug in the cable, you need to go to the notification area and enable the computer connection.
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Yes that has been my experience with that protocol with other devices over the years. A day or so ago with usb enabled the PC wouldn't recognize the NC. Last night I went back to the 5/1 partitioning scheme, popped in a 32 gig sd card and went to bed. Tonight I turned on usb storage and my machine picked up the sd card immediately, and I was able to drag and drop a few music files in typical fashion. While the issue of not being able to access that "internal" media storage still perplexes me (I can be extremely O/C about tech working the way it's "supposed to,)" I'm simply not going to sweat 1 gig when I added an additional 32. As my experience with the Nook Color grows, more will be revealed. Thanks
Carl

Does everyone agree that hooking up to pc sucks?

When I found out my new Razr I couldn't use the SD card as a mass storage device, I was disappointed. I thought oh well, I guess it'll only be a problem if I ever want to take or dump files to friends computers but since having to rely on Moto's own device connection ways I'm getting a bit annoyed. First of all, if you want to "Move" a folder from for example, the root folder of the SD card into another folder, it's as if it's copying it bit by bit and takes AGES even in my USB 3 port. USB Mass storage has always treated the SD card like anything else in windows and will just move in a millisecond, but not this Also, I noticed upon transferring a folder which had 98 files, only 90 showed up on the properties once it was on the sd card I like to make sure transfers happened ok by comparing file sizes in bytes so this obviously throws it way off.
Has anyone come up with an alternative solution I wonder?
An alternative is a simple card reader
I think there were some experiments to get mass storage back, but i don't now if they succeeded...
But the new MTP - technology is better for the android system, it doesn't have to unmount the sdcard. and pc and android can parallel access the sdcard.
gesendet von meinem Motorola RAZR i rooted+unlocked
I guess they are some good reasons alright and yeah, I might have to start carrying a card reader so
Personally I like MTP, it's much faster than USB connection, but still it would be great to be able to choose from two options. I've read somewhere that even Motorola had problems with creating USB drivers, so it will be miracle if we see that option on our phone.
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Airdroid.
There, i solved all your problems.
Never heard of airdroid, will check it out, thanks
MTP seems a lot slower than USB to me? Just the fact you can't "move" like I described is enough
Ok airdroid seems cool, but it seems not to be working properly for me, I've managed to view my sms on web.airdroid.com and the phone details etc come up right, but the internal and SD storage are both showing as 5.13gb with 1.34gb free when my SD card is 32gb.
Also it's giving errors on trying to open photo/video/app folders.
Like the idea so if it can work it'd be great.
Agree
I agree, it sucks!
It´s so slow the cable connection, that it reminds me my old moto V360´s one. Unbelievable!
cormie said:
When I found out my new Razr I couldn't use the SD card as a mass storage device, I was disappointed. I thought oh well, I guess it'll only be a problem if I ever want to take or dump files to friends computers but since having to rely on Moto's own device connection ways I'm getting a bit annoyed. First of all, if you want to "Move" a folder from for example, the root folder of the SD card into another folder, it's as if it's copying it bit by bit and takes AGES even in my USB 3 port. USB Mass storage has always treated the SD card like anything else in windows and will just move in a millisecond, but not this Also, I noticed upon transferring a folder which had 98 files, only 90 showed up on the properties once it was on the sd card I like to make sure transfers happened ok by comparing file sizes in bytes so this obviously throws it way off.
Has anyone come up with an alternative solution I wonder?
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cormie said:
Ok airdroid seems cool, but it seems not to be working properly for me, I've managed to view my sms on web.airdroid.com and the phone details etc come up right, but the internal and SD storage are both showing as 5.13gb with 1.34gb free when my SD card is 32gb.
Also it's giving errors on trying to open photo/video/app folders.
Like the idea so if it can work it'd be great.
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It's strange because Airdroid works fine for me (expect the phone details but it's not a big bug)
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cormie said:
Ok airdroid seems cool, but it seems not to be working properly for me, I've managed to view my sms on web.airdroid.com and the phone details etc come up right, but the internal and SD storage are both showing as 5.13gb with 1.34gb free when my SD card is 32gb.
Also it's giving errors on trying to open photo/video/app folders.
Like the idea so if it can work it'd be great.
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Works pretty well for me. Maybe you modified something?
Did you test it today? I saw great ratings for it this morning when I downloaded it first but then later today I checked back and the latest ratings were saying it wasn't working.
Didn't modify anything at all really, tried both with an account and without an account and same issues.
Hooking up Razr i to PC really sucks cause you always need to install drivers and Motorola application when you plug into a new PC (and remove they after, when PC is not yours). But I think wi-fi transfer sucks too cause it's slower. =(
When I need to transfer small files I use X-Plore app on Android. X-Plore can access shared folders on your network. It works like a charm!
When I need to transfer big files, I preffer to plug on USB. There's no other way...

adoptable Storage under PIE.

Have anyone tried formatting the SD card as internal using the SM Partition command over adb?
We (me and my group on WhatsApp) have and it always corrupt the card, I am here now, because I would like to learn how to look for clues to troubleshoot this.
Because it makes no sense at all, pie is compatible with using adoptable storage and FBE, in custom rooms we are able to use this feature, feels odd that in the official rom we can't.
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LionLorena said:
Have anyone tried formatting the SD card as internal using the SM Partition command over adb?
We (me and my group on WhatsApp) have and it always corrupt the card, I am here now, because I would like to learn how to look for clues to troubleshoot this.
Because it makes no sense at all, pie is compatible with using adAptable storage and FBE, in custom rooms we are able to use this feature, feels odd that in the official rom we can't.
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I am also interested in this. Has anyone had success in setting up adaptable storage on Pie?
Tried with a 8gb sandisk... corrupted sd card after the process
i've tried with this tutorial: https://stackoverflow.com/questions...sd-card-into-internal-storage-via-adb-command
The problem is that modern consumer grade SD cards are not reliable for using as SSD. The number of write cycles is limited, the garbage management may corrupt card on certain conditions, etc. It is good enough that we can use SD card for camera and videos.
bookworth said:
The problem is that modern consumer grade SD cards are not reliable for using as SSD. The number of write cycles is limited, the garbage management may corrupt card on certain conditions, etc. It is good enough that we can use SD card for camera and videos.
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That's not really a problem.
You see, the SD card lasting around the same time as your device is all there's needed, because it's almost certain that when you replace your device you're probably gonna get a newer, better and larger card along with it.
Or on the off chance you're not, you can "afford" to lose a SD card faster because they are usually cheaper than a SSD, not to mention that apps usually have way less writing to the card can computer programs so it may even outlast SSDs.
I take my SanDisk exterme pro for example.
I have it it's been 3 years now and it's still performing exceptionally.
I've formated it countless times, as internal, as external, multi parted it for Link2SD, made and used SWAP partitions for expansion in performance on low ram phones, hell I used this card a lot and the old faithful is still kicking.
Formatting doesn't do anything to the card, writing gigabytes of data does and disconnecting power at the wrong moment does.
Not everyone buys extreme pro cards - most of the guys who can not afford bigger SSD will also buy cheaper SD cards - because, you know, they are cheaper. And no manufacturer is willing to explain why you lost your important pictures of your baby's 7 day anniversary.
If you want cheap solutions then go for cheaper products - I believe Moto G5 has the feature you are interested in. Maybe this is because with slower CPU's the user has less actual options for wrecking the SD card.
After the Pie update, In the Moto Help app under LEARN, I found this:
"Change storage type" "Go to Settings>Storage>Touch SD Card name>3 dots>Storage Settings>Format as Internal or Format as Portable". (I tried to upload a pic, but it won't load)
I haven't tried this as I am waiting on a new UHS-1 SD card hopefully delivered today! Also under the Moto Help app: "Using SD card as extended Internal Storage" you need to have a high speed SD card such as a UHS-1, "you can move DL apps, app files, media files to the card. This card is NOT readable in other devices and cannot be decrypted on other devices". Hope this helps...
PowurPlayr said:
After the Pie update, In the Moto Help app under LEARN, I found this:
"Change storage type" "Go to Settings>Storage>Touch SD Card name>3 dots>Storage Settings>Format as Internal or Format as Portable". (I tried to upload a pic, but it won't load)
I haven't tried this as I am waiting on a new UHS-1 SD card hopefully delivered today! Also under the Moto Help app: "Using SD card as extended Internal Storage" you need to have a high speed SD card such as a UHS-1, "you can move DL apps, app files, media files to the card. This card is NOT readable in other devices and cannot be decrypted on other devices". Hope this helps...
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Yeah it is supposed to be this way, but when you format the card it gives no such option.
I think the rom is bugged because the restrictions imposed was on fbe, now that pie fixed this, there's no such restrictions.
On custom ROMs this works as intended.
LionLorena said:
Yeah it is supposed to be this way, but when you format the card it gives no such option.
I think the rom is bugged because the restrictions imposed was on fbe, now that pie fixed this, there's no such restrictions.
On custom ROMs this works as intended.
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Which custom ROM this feature works?
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Which custom ROM this feature works?
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As I have tested the Havoc was, and several folks on my WhatsApp group reported Lineage to be working too.
typically when I have a card go read only (bad) I clone it to a new card and it continues to work in the device. The whole encryption system in android is kind of a bummer because you can't read it on another devices. There is a lot of compromises for security that are made to satisfy the least common denominator. Like they could offer you a way to back up the key to another location, etc.
Not being able to use my 128gb card as internal on my X4 has me a little regretful for leaving Apple. If I had known they took that option away I would have sprung for another model. Hopefully they'll change that. I'm on stock Android Pie, so if any custom ROMs are out there I'm all ears?
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Not being able to use my 128gb card as internal on my X4 has me a little regretful for leaving Apple. If I had known they took that option away I would have sprung for another model. Hopefully they'll change that. I'm on stock Android Pie, so if any custom ROMs are out there I'm all ears?
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I recently purchased my new moto x⁴ after my beloved moto G6 (needs to be repaired [trying to get an estimate from Motorola] as both front and back are shattered).
I'm baffled about the storage limitations for SDcard integration as well. I'm struggling with this low storage space warnings with 32GB but far less for actual storage because of the incredibly huge system files. My 128GB available space on my SDcard is just 128GB when it makes no use via x⁴ .
Updated to PIE but making use of more storage capacity doesn't seem to be a priority. Can't wait until my moto G6 returns but I'll continue to research and see what options are available on x⁴.
Any and ALL advices are most welcomed with a huge thank you in advance.
SOMNER
somner said:
I recently purchased my new moto x⁴ after my beloved moto G6 (needs to be repaired [trying to get an estimate from Motorola] as both front and back are shattered).
I'm baffled about the storage limitations for SDcard integration as well. I'm struggling with this low storage space warnings with 32GB but far less for actual storage because of the incredibly huge system files. My 128GB available space on my SDcard is just 128GB when it makes no use via x⁴ .
Updated to PIE but making use of more storage capacity doesn't seem to be a priority. Can't wait until my moto G6 returns but I'll continue to research and see what options are available on x⁴.
Any and ALL advices are most welcomed with a huge thank you in advance.
SOMNER
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Same issue here. I bought the phone and even bought 128gb extra sd card to increase the space. But after I opened and inserted my card I realized it's not showing up extra space. I searched through many forums and found out that's it not possible to do so. I have tried ADB tool and formatted it as internal memory as per steps mentioned. But once I do that it says my SD card is corrupted.
Not sure what is the reason for giving SD card when you cant use it as internal storage. You don't have a gallery app and you already have all your photos going to your google photos, whats the use here.
As you said, will wait if anyone finds a solution. Please do post here in case you find a solution, I will do as well.
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kaka1981 said:
Same issue here. I bought the phone and even bought 128gb extra sd card to increase the space. But after I opened and inserted my card I realized it's not showing up extra space. I searched through many forums and found out that's it not possible to do so. I have tried ADB tool and formatted it as internal memory as per steps mentioned. But once I do that it says my SD card is corrupted.
Not sure what is the reason for giving SD card when you cant use it as internal storage. You don't have a gallery app and you already have all your photos going to your google photos, whats the use here.
As you said, will wait if anyone finds a solution. Please do post here in case you find a solution, I will do as well.
Thanks
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You can set the moto camera to write to scard is probably the biggest reason, outside of music storage. It does suck adaptable storage isnt working/supported.
SchmilK said:
You can set the moto camera to write to scard is probably the biggest reason, outside of music storage. It does suck adaptable storage isnt working/supported.
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Is the default storage of the camera photos to phone or its auto saving to google photos?
kaka1981 said:
Is the default storage of the camera photos to phone or its auto saving to google photos?
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Default is internal, but can be set too sdcard.
Then Google photos will detect a new folder and an if you want to synch
SchmilK said:
Default is internal, but can be set too sdcard.
Then Google photos will detect a new folder and an if you want to synch
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Last time I changed to SD card, the "Free up space" in Google Photos did not work for some reason.
jhedfors said:
Last time I changed to SD card, the "Free up space" in Google Photos did not work for some reason.
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Hm, I'm more paranoid than you, I transfer my pictures to my computer to free space.

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