Due to some work-related reason, I can't have a rooted Moto X.
I start to think about what I can do without root. If I understand it correctly, if I have an unlocked boot-loader, I will be able to install TWRP and flash the apps that need the root access. Is this true?
If so, is hashcode's safestrap a viable option? Yes I'd have to waste some space. But the ROM slot I added will be essentially flash-able via TWRP.
Can anyone comment if this will work?
Thanks
AT&T Moto X's cannot be bootloader unlocked.
The idea of SafeStrap, I think, is to create another slot. This does not require an unlocked boot-loader, does it?
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Getting confused with the different variations and unlock processes with the X. Let me see if I somewhat understand this? Get a Sprint X.
1. I don't care about warranty and see the moto bootloader unlock much less of a hassle down the road. I unlock my X the moto way. I then fastboot flash recovery recovery.img like normal. Then reboot and go to play and install SuperSU. Now I'm unlocked (can flash roms, updates, or etc via recovery...like normal), and rooted (Titanium Backup, Android WiFi Tether, the usual goods). I assume radios, firmware, kernels, and bootloaders aren't flashable.
2. I want my warranty. I do jcases Pwn with write protection....but now I can't flash anything. If safestrap gets a sprit version, then I can use that to essentially multi boot. I assume this is mainly for Verizon and AT&T users?
1) they are if someone makes them into flashable formats for ya
2) correct
Okay, got a strange question here. I plan on going from the N5 to the unlocked GSM MotoMaker Moto X version. All I want is root with stock recovery (don't really care for a custom recovery, plus I'd like to still receive OTAs). Can I unlock the Moto X bootloader, load TWRP recovery (instead of flash), and then install SuperSU? Or do I *have* to flash TWRP to achieve root?
correct me if im wrong, but I think you can "unlock the Moto X bootloader, load TWRP recovery (instead of flash), and then install SuperSU".
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use one of the methods in the original android development section to achieve root.
c19932 said:
correct me if im wrong, but I think you can "unlock the Moto X bootloader, load TWRP recovery (instead of flash), and then install SuperSU".
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use one of the methods in the original android development section to achieve root.
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Yes, I've looked at those threads. However, in 4.4, a backdoor needs to be introduced in order to maintain root. I'd rather not have to do that and I don't mind unlocking bootloaders. This will be my first, non-Nexus device in awhile, so I just wanted to make sure I can just unlocked the bootloader, load a custom recovery, flash SuperSU and then just have root.
TheCuban said:
Yes, I've looked at those threads. However, in 4.4, a backdoor needs to be introduced in order to maintain root. I'd rather not have to do that and I don't mind unlocking bootloaders. This will be my first, non-Nexus device in awhile, so I just wanted to make sure I can just unlocked the bootloader, load a custom recovery, flash SuperSU and then just have root.
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Just unlock your boot loader, flash twrp recovery and finally flash supersu and you're good to go. Ota's can not be accepted and flashed with root or custom recovery on the moto
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flashallthetime said:
Just unlock your boot loader, flash twrp recovery and finally flash supersu and you're good to go. Ota's can not be accepted and flashed with root or custom recovery on the moto
Sent on my Moto X
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Thanks! That's what I thought! I didn't know that root removed the ability to accept OTAs?
TheCuban said:
Thanks! That's what I thought! I didn't know that root removed the ability to accept OTAs?
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On the moto yes, nexus devices are a different beast
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Hi I am planing my first root and I am honestly a little confused. I am on TMobile with 4.4 KitKat (Moto X).
I understand how to unlock the Bootloader and that I need to install TWRP before I can activate SU.
I am just not sure about the bugs (if any) with TWRP and what version to use.
The reason for my concern is on the TWRP website the Moto X is not listed as a supported device.
Is this video Tutorial still valid - is this how to do it with 4.4 KitKat?
And is this the latest version that works (what are the known bugs)?
So I really miss rooting and modding my phones so I was thinking about do that Chinese method of unlocking my verizon wireless moto x. I just have a couple questions if anyone could answer I'd appreciate it. I can't find much info about 4.4.2 for the verizon moto x because before this unlock discovery, it wasn't possible
1. Once I unlock, is rooting just a simple adb command away?
2. Will I still be able receive android updates via OTA from verizon in the future? Assuming I remain on stock rom and don't flash a rom.
3. My main goal would to be able to tether. So is there a xposed mod to enable tethering on stock rom?
I've only seen this info for DE Moto Xs' and outdated info so I just want to be as updated as possible before I decide to do this.
tu3218 said:
So I really miss rooting and modding my phones so I was thinking about do that Chinese method of unlocking my verizon wireless moto x. I just have a couple questions if anyone could answer I'd appreciate it. I can't find much info about 4.4.2 for the verizon moto x because before this unlock discovery, it wasn't possible
1. Once I unlock, is rooting just a simple adb command away?
2. Will I still be able receive android updates via OTA from verizon in the future? Assuming I remain on stock rom and don't flash a rom.
3. My main goal would to be able to tether. So is there a xposed mod to enable tethering on stock rom?
I've only seen this info for DE Moto Xs' and outdated info so I just want to be as updated as possible before I decide to do this.
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1. after you unlock the bootloader Rooting is as easy as installed TWRP or CWM then flashing SuperSU flashable sip and your rooted.
2. yes you will still get OTA updates. but in order to use the OTA update you will have to reflash the stock recovery. then take the update and reflash TWRP or CWM and SuperSU and your rooted again.
3.yea there is
hope this answered all your questions.
^^ this
Also, with an unlocked bootloader....you now have a phone that is no different than a dev edition. Aside from your warranty.
There's nothing else special about the dev edition. You keep your warranty on a DE.....that's where its specialness ends.
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
dray_jr said:
1. after you unlock the bootloader Rooting is as easy as installed TWRP or CWM then flashing SuperSU flashable sip and your rooted.
2. yes you will still get OTA updates. but in order to use the OTA update you will have to reflash the stock recovery. then take the update and reflash TWRP or CWM and SuperSU and your rooted again.
3.yea there is
hope this answered all your questions.
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Yeah thanks a lot! My plan would be to just run stock software but just add the tethering xposed module. But my main concern was receiving future OTAs so it's good to know that I still can. Is it pretty safe to root/unlock this phone? My galaxy nexus was a breeze(obviously being a nexus), but like my S3, there was no flashing back to stock recovery, taking OTA, an than flashing CWM again. At least it wasn't as easy as you described lol I think because there was always concern about whether the update removed ability to root access. Is that possible with this phone or with the unlocking of the bootloader, does that take that variable out? Thanks again. Oh yeah last question, once I'm unlocked, can I lock it back up again and go back to completely stock if I wanted to for some reason? Or is it a done deal.
tu3218 said:
Yeah thanks a lot! My plan would be to just run stock software but just add the tethering xposed module. But my main concern was receiving future OTAs so it's good to know that I still can. Is it pretty safe to root/unlock this phone? My galaxy nexus was a breeze(obviously being a nexus), but like my S3, there was no flashing back to stock recovery, taking OTA, an than flashing CWM again. At least it wasn't as easy as you described lol I think because there was always concern about whether the update removed ability to root access. Is that possible with this phone or with the unlocking of the bootloader, does that take that variable out? Thanks again. Oh yeah last question, once I'm unlocked, can I lock it back up again and go back to completely stock if I wanted to for some reason? Or is it a done deal.
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the unlocking the bootloader process is kind of a pain but not too bad.
custom recovery and root are as simple as one command and one flashable zip
as long as you follow directions and read before doing anything then it should be safe. but rooting and modifying your phone is never %100 save.
when you unlock your bootloader you will always be able to root your phone no matter what android version your on. but it is always possible that they make some crazy change and we have issues.
once unlocked you can relock with with "fastboot oem lock" but that stupid warning msg about you bootloader being unlocked won't go away unless you flash a custom boot screen.
i hope i answered all your questions to your full needs and if you have any more please feel free to ask here or PM me if need be.
Unlocking the bootloader is pretty easy if you have adb setup. Don't forget to backup via helium (download to computer or cloud not local.) since unlocking will delete everything and helium can work without root.
Xposed module is great, less intrusive than flashing roms and you can easily get the tethering, etc.
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I just got done unlocking the bootloader on my Moto X (XT1058 - Rogers) on 4.4.2, and I'm wondering if there's any way to install safestrap? All the information I can find on safestrap is specific to locked devices on 4.2.2.
skudd said:
I just got done unlocking the bootloader on my Moto X (XT1058 - Rogers) on 4.4.2, and I'm wondering if there's any way to install safestrap? All the information I can find on safestrap is specific to locked devices on 4.2.2.
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Safestrap is intended to get around the inability to flash alternate roms on a locked bootloader device. On the X, if you are on stock 4.4, but rooted and have disabled write protection (using SlapMyMoto and MotoWpNoMo), Safestrap allows you to run a rooted 4.4.2 in a slot, thus keeping write protection disabled.
If you can unlock your bootloader, it disables write protection, you can easily root the stock rom (no need for SlapMyMoto, MotoWpNoMo or the like), and you can flash 3rd party components (recovery), or ROMS (CM).
So why would you need to use safestrap?
KidJoe said:
So why would you need to use safestrap?
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Unless I've missed something (which is entirely possible/probable) and TWRP also has the same functionality, I want the ability to have multiple separate android installs at once.
skudd said:
Unless I've missed something (which is entirely possible/probable) and TWRP also has the same functionality, I want the ability to have multiple separate android installs at once.
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No, believe you are correct. If the roms you wish to run are safestrap compatible, you can flash or install them into slots, side by side, and boot between them.
I don't know how much space they might take up on the /SDcard, so if you have a 16gig X, keep an eye on the free space after you add a new rom.
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Unless I've missed something (which is entirely possible/probable) and TWRP also has the same functionality, I want the ability to have multiple separate android installs at once.
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I was unsuccessful running 4.4.x within a rom-slot. My experience is that you must use the "stock slot" for 4.4.x.
So i've had my moto x since october, and just recently got to use a rooted phone and i really want to root my moto x, im on AT&T and i know i cant unlock the bootloader, if i unlock it so i can use any sim card on it, could i root it then? Thank you to anyone that helps
Nope. Not full, real root. Doesn't matter what you do to the phone, if you're on the 4.4.2 or higher bootloader, you can not get write protection disabled. Root yes, with towel root and/or PIE (see dev sections for those)...but wrote protection will be enabled. So changes won't survive a power reset. And you can't write to the system.
And you can't safely downgrade from 4.4.2 or higher either.
HaiMyNamesTrent said:
So i've had my moto x since october, and just recently got to use a rooted phone and i really want to root my moto x, im on AT&T and i know i cant unlock the bootloader, if i unlock it so i can use any sim card on it, could i root it then? Thank you to anyone that helps
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SIM unlocking allows you to use the SIM from another carrier in your phone.. i.e. use a T-Mobile sim in an ATT branded X. That process does require you to have a different carrier's sim so the phone will prompt you to enter the unlock code. SIM unlock codes are available from many places around the web. It has no impact on rooting.
Bootloader unlocking allows you to flash a custom recovery, 3rd party roms, etc. By virtue of being able to flash a custom recovery you can easily root your phone. There are only two places you can get a bootloader unlock code for the X... Either Motorola's web site (for many, but not ALL carriers) or the Chinese Website or Middleman (only way if Moto doesn't supply)
As @KJ has said, with a locked bootloader and 4.4.2 on your phone, you are limited. PIE to root, but can't disable write protection.
and dispite any thread you might see about downgrading to gain root and disable write protection.. DO NOT!!! you will risk bricking your phone if you have 4.4.3 or 4.4.2 on your phone and attempt to downgrade.