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My impressions on the Nexus 4 after 3 days of use.

1. The phone sings "I AM SEXY AND I KNOW IT". It's very elegant. My favorite looking device has been the white HTC One X. In my opinion, this black N4 is sexier.
2. If you like having haptic feedback on and you're upgrading from a Galaxy Nexus, you'll be pleased with the N4. I can't count the times I missed calls and important notifications with my GNEX on vibrator mode. I don't know if it's the way the vibrator module is installed or the "solid" body of the N4 that makes vibrations much better than the GNEX. You feel it as soon as you type on the keyboard to setup the phone for first use.
3. I was hoping that one of those early N4 reviewers would check if the N4/Android 4.2 supported SIM hot swapping like iPhones. I know if I remove the back cover of my GNEX and replace the SIM, I get a message that a new SIM is detected but I need to restart the phone. I deliberately powered on the N4 without a SIM installed at first then inserted it after it booted up. I did not get any messages but it did not pick up signal either, had to restart.
4. Having upgraded to the Nexus 4 from a Galaxy Nexus, I'm never going back to an AMOLED screen again. To me, all the colors look better on the N4 than on the GNEX except for black and green, but then again, the GNEX has a greenish tent over everything. Now I find myself preferring the better whites of the N4 much over the combination of ultra-vivid greens+greenish/bluish whites nature of the GNEX display. You notice the difference as soon as you power up an N4 in the status icons if you're upgrading from a GNEX. No wonder many call that color of the Holo theme "ICS Blue". It's looks like blue on the GNEX while it's true to being "Cyan" on the N4.
5. The power button is a little higher on the N4, I wish it was a bit longer or in the same place as the GNEX.
6. The silver rim around the screen isn't luminous as I thought it would be when I held it to my face. The glass curves on the sides help at making it look discrete when held directly for operation.
7. Using the speedtest app, I got 16Mbps down, 1.7Mbps up using t-mobile's H+ network with the N4. My GNEX has an AT&T SIM in it now, It's got 2.15Mbps down, 1.1Mbps up only.
8. There's a spot in my garage that is dead to the GNEX from my home WiFi signal. Have always hated it because that's where I always sit to smoke. Not only the N4 is fine there, it pulled 24Mbps when I tested using the speed test app.
9. Coming from a Motorola phone to the GNEX, I missed that instant GPS lock my Motorola had. What is it those Moto guys do to make their GPS locking so fast?! While the GNEX GPS locking speed was improved with updates, I found the N4 is be much faster at locking and rerouting when navigating.
10. The Galaxy S III notifications LED is a bit brighter than the one in the GNEX. I was hoping the N4 will have something similar, it doesn't.
11. All the time I was reading the N4 reviews, I thought they were saying the glass curves outwards on the sides. I was surprised to see it curves inward. Sorry I couldn't explain it better. And yes, it makes a difference in the feel when you swipe screens.
12. The external speaker of the N4 is a little bit louder than the GNEX, but still on the quiet side. Don't expect Motorola (I know it's a lot phones, but they usually do good in this regard) or iPhone 4/4s/5 loudness.
13. Battery life is acceptable. It's comparable to the GSM Galaxy Nexus with the stock 1750mAh battery, but not as good as the GNEX+the OEM 2000mAh battery. It's kinda puzzling how the LG Optimus G has a better battery life based on it's reviews. The only difference is the OS? right? So, is it a software/kernel issue in Android 4.2? I don't know.
14. The Nexus 4 is my first Android phone with a non-removable battery. I was thinking what do I do in those nasty cases that require a "battery pull". I just tried holding the power button for few seconds and indeed it did shutdown.
15. I mentioned it before but I also did further testing. The GPS performance of the Nexus 4 obliterates that of the Galaxy Nexus it's not even funny. Accuracy and speed is excellent on the N4. Happy to see that since I use Google Maps/Navigation quite often. Testing indoors in my house, the N4 found 19 satellites, the GNEX only 3.
16. Some speedtest.net results:
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The same T-mobile SIM - N4:

Thanks for sharing!

Yeah, can't wait for mine to arrive. Come on Google!

CyberPunk7t9 said:
7. Using the speedtest app, I got 16MBs down, 1.7MB up using t-mobile's H+ network with the N4. My GNEX has an AT&T SIM in it now, It's got 2.15MB down, 1.1MB up only.
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Can you clarify if you are using megabits or megabytes? Mbps is the unit for megabits per second, and MB/s denotes megabytes per second. Your usage is ambiguous, but I would assume the numbers are Mbps. Also, what city are you in?
CyberPunk7t9 said:
11. All the time I was reading the N4 reviews, I thought they were saying the glass curves outwards on the sides. I was surprised to see it curves inward. Sorry I couldn't explain it better. And yes, it makes a difference in the feel when you swipe screens.
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With the screen facing up, do you mean the glass slopes downward at the edges? Is that what you mean by "inward?" As in, into the phone?

Nice job. I'm coming from a GNex too and my N4 is scheduled to be here tomorrow afternoon. Can't wait. This bit of info helps answer some questions I also had.
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Can you clarify if you are using megabits or megabytes? Mbps is the unit for megabits per second, and MB/s denotes megabytes per second. Your usage is ambiguous, but I would assume the numbers are Mbps. Also, what city are you in?
With the screen facing up, do you mean the glass slopes downward at the edges? Is that what you mean by "inward?" As in, into the phone?
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- 16Mbps. Thanks for the note. I'm in St. Paul, MN.
- Correct! Thanks again.

We should have an N4 party in the twin cities, lol. Im getting mine on Tuesday. I ordered a Nexus 7 3G, which may have slowed my order down a little bit. I changed my plan to unlimted 4G on Tmo. What plan do you have? If you have the unlimted 4G, can you test to see if tethering still works to your Gnex? I supposedly have unlmted 4G which says that tethering doesn't work, but I can still tether to my N7 just fine.

I can't wait until UPS drops mine off tomorrow

I agree, i am loving this thing. I've had it since Friday and i cant find one thing to complain about.

Can you put the AT&T SIM in the N4 and do a speed test? Would it be the same as the Gnex?

I think I may be the only one that likes the GNnex AMOLED screen better. Colors seem washed out compared to the GNex. I think I just need to get used it but yeah I love this phone though! LOVE it!
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For the past couple days I have been wanting my N4 to arrive but not to the point where I'm cursing google for their questionable release. I currently use a nexus s and am happy with that until it finally arrives. your post single handily has made me super anxious and excited for my N4 to arrive. If only I knew when it would arrive :/

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Thanks for the detailed review!
I've read a lot of complaints about the touch screen sensitivity. People are saying it's not picking up light taps because it's not sensitive enough. This causes typing mistakes and frustration in general. Have you noticed anything like this?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

bleuiko said:
Can you put the AT&T SIM in the N4 and do a speed test? Would it be the same as the Gnex?
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Sorry can't do that. Because the N4 uses a micro SIM and I had to cut the T-mobile SIM I have to use it. The AT&T will remain in my GNEX. I don't know, I might decide on cutting it to do the test you're asking for and then use a converter to put it back in the GNEX. Stay tuned.

Darn it can't wait til the order page goes live again, I refuse to go to tmob and shell out five bills.
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bleuiko said:
Can you put the AT&T SIM in the N4 and do a speed test? Would it be the same as the Gnex?
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I use AT&T with my Nexus 4. I can do a speed test tomorrow.
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whittikins said:
I've read a lot of complaints about the touch screen sensitivity. People are saying it's not picking up light taps because it's not sensitive enough. This causes typing mistakes and frustration in general. Have you noticed anything like this?
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I don't notice any difference between the N4 and the GNex in regards to sensitivity. To me it is actually a bit more sensitive, or maybe that's just perceived because the phone is faster, who knows.

I'm in love with this phone.
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whittikins said:
Thanks for the detailed review!
I've read a lot of complaints about the touch screen sensitivity. People are saying it's not picking up light taps because it's not sensitive enough. This causes typing mistakes and frustration in general. Have you noticed anything like this?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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The glass of the Galaxy Nexus screen allows smoother glides when you swipe over it but I also did not experience issues of unregistered touches or any awkward behavior in that regard using the N4.
Maybe those people are talking about the far edges of each side where the glass curves. The curves start right over the bezels, which makes it easy to think you're touching the usable screen while you're actually just starting to touch the glass. I personally like it this way, both the curves and the slightly rougher feeling glass. Like when I use the gesture typing feature in the 4.2 keyboard, I tend to make more mistakes with the GNEX than I do with the N4 because the glides are more controllable on the N4 glass, at least for me.

dbdynsty25 said:
I don't notice any difference between the N4 and the GNex in regards to sensitivity. To me it is actually a bit more sensitive, or maybe that's just perceived because the phone is faster, who knows.
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But you notice something like the screen of the GNEX being smoother when you glide your fingers over it? I think I do.
Thank you.

State of the Union - Moto X?

I posted another thread on here earlier, but Samsung has driven me over the edge. Both my Note 3 and my wife's Note 3 have hardware problems requiring manufacturer replacement. Every Samsung product I buy (including non-mobile) just has problems - I have never had more problems with any other brand. Their support and service is terrible, and if it wasn't for T-Mobile I'd be looking at a 10 day warranty repair through Samsung. So bad quality and bad support just tell me "time to move on."
As mentioned I'm with T-Mobile and my house is in a valley so signal isn't great, but they are mailing me out the signal booster. Otherwise my signal is typically OK. I read up on the Moto X a lot awhile back during initial reviews, but haven't kept up because I went with the Note 3. Beyond obviously losing the stylus and larger screen, is this a fair assessment of what I'll be looking at with the Moto X?
1. No WiFi calling for T-Mobile, but also read a report where the Moto X maintains calls with 8-9db worse signal than other phones.
2. Camera isn't great, but it is much better than initial release.
3. Voice activation is also much more consistent than initial release.
4. Motorola, in warranty situations, mails out a replacement.
5. Great battery life - among the best
6. Less buggy experience as it is closer to stock Android
7. ~$300 in my pocket by the time I sell my replacement Note 3 and buy Moto X with the $70 sale
#6 is interesting to me because what bothers me since switching from Apple is overall quality. In one year with Android I have had hardware problems, endless software bugs, and while I still like Android more than iOS eliminating the headaches with bugs sure sounds appealing right now.

If you're comparing Android to iOS 5 or 6, Android still has more bugs. I have avoided iOS 7 thus far. I gave up on Sammy years ago due to reasons you have stated so can't speak for certain, but am willing to bet there are plenty of bugs in all of Samsung's cruft that won't be present on a Moto x.
Don't count on Motorola shipping you a replacement throughout the warranty period.
The radios in the Moto X are superior to the Nexus 4 and 5. I'm in the mountains and never had reliable service at home and around town with the Nexus phones. No problems with the Moto X; one of the best things about this phone! Another is the quality of the speaker (phone).

My X is on Verizon but yes the signal is excellent. The camera is fine but not as good as Note3. Voice controls work well. Not sure about warranty replacement, doubt it. Considering you are on TMO you can pop your Sim in anything and keep going. Battery life is very good 18+ hours runtime with 3-4 hours of screentime stock unrooted. Nearly stock Android is nice, first android device I have not needed to root and run custom rom (posting this from my rooted hisense sero7 pro tablet). Take the money and run while the Note3 still holds value. MotoX should be worth $150 later this year when you get bored with it.
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Side by side, my Moto X was 4-5 db lower than my friend's HTC One. Both phones were on T-Mobile.
Don't worry about the warranty. Except for the occasional app crash, my phone runs flawlessly. Though I haven't had an app crash since 4.4.2, so maybe that's fixed now too.

Cool thanks everyone. I'll go with the Moto X. It sounds like it is the perfect answer to what I need right now.

vicegrips said:
Cool thanks everyone. I'll go with the Moto X. It sounds like it is the perfect answer to what I need right now.
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Another owner chiming in here. Been through each company (except Sony cause I'm on TMO). Motorola phones (even the Moto X) have always had the best signal in my area. Where other phones would get -100dB and drop me off HSPA, I can get around -90 below otherwise and maintain a steady connection.

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As mentioned I'm with T-Mobile and my house is in a valley so signal isn't great, but they are mailing me out the signal booster.
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I'm with t-mobile and am in the same signal situation as you. My Moto X signal reception is slightly worse than my Sony Advance, and sometimes I am unable to make a call with the Moto X where I was able to with the Sony.
You and I are in a valley. No carrier can reliably supply a consistent signal in my location and it doesn't matter what brand phone I have. I'm curious that when you get the signal booster if you could report your findings with it here on it's performance.
Since the Moto x does not have wi-fi calling I use the "Xfinity Connect App" to make wi-fi calls if I can't make one regularly, which is rare since I can usually find a signal somewhere in my house, but sometimes I can't. You can make and receive calls from your home phone # from any location where you can get a wi-fi connection. For instance, I can make and receive home phone calls at my workplace thru "Connect App". Obviously, you must be a Comcast subscriber to use it.

rupterr said:
I'm with t-mobile and am in the same signal situation as you. My Moto X signal reception is slightly worse than my Sony Advance, and sometimes I am unable to make a call with the Moto X where I was able to with the Sony.
You and I are in a valley. No carrier can reliably supply a consistent signal in my location and it doesn't matter what brand phone I have. I'm curious that when you get the signal booster if you could report your findings with it here on it's performance.
Since the Moto x does not have wi-fi calling I use the "Xfinity Connect App" to make wi-fi calls if I can't make one regularly, which is rare since I can usually find a signal somewhere in my house, but sometimes I can't. You can make and receive calls from your home phone # from any location where you can get a wi-fi connection. For instance, I can make and receive home phone calls at my workplace thru "Connect App". Obviously, you must be a Comcast subscriber to use it.
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You know I can't give T-Mobile a total pass here because I had AT&T for nearly 14 months in this same house and never had problems. A friend stayed with us for 3 months when they moved out here with Verizon and they also didn't have a problem. As far as I can tell it is because of the placement of T-Mobile's 1 tower, where if I'm not mistaken AT&T has 2 and Verizon maybe 3? I still like TMobile better. They are cheaper and their customer service reps have been great to work with.
Regardless, I do seem to consistently get 1 bar of 4G upstairs so I think the signal booster should work at home. If you are in the same spot you might want to call T-Mobile because they have started sending signal boosters out for free again. They just run a quick study on your area to see if you qualify, the equipment is sent, but you do have to return it if you ever leave.

vicegrips said:
You know I can't give T-Mobile a total pass here because I had AT&T for nearly 14 months in this same house and never had problems.
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I understand. In my case no provider can supply a consistent signal where I live. It's all about the towers, and nobody wants towers in there backyard. My local government won't allow them in the area where I live, so I'm stuck. Thanks for the info, i'll check out the tmobile signal booster as I'm sure I will qualify.

My gsm moto x is pulling down signal where work Samsung Verizon is unusable in a few areas. Damn I miss Motorola and Nokia phones.
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Solutions Etcetera said:
If you're comparing Android to iOS 5 or 6, Android still has more bugs. I have avoided iOS 7 thus far. I gave up on Sammy years ago due to reasons you have stated so can't speak for certain, but am willing to bet there are plenty of bugs in all of Samsung's cruft that won't be present on a Moto x.
Don't count on .
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My observation is with iOS generally, there may core functionality missing that should really be there. But broadly the OS that is there working pretty well overall.
With Android, there's often a lot of stuff on there that just doesn't work
don't get me wrong, I'm a huge android fan.

rupterr said:
I understand. In my case no provider can supply a consistent signal where I live. It's all about the towers, and nobody wants towers in there backyard. My local government won't allow them in the area where I live, so I'm stuck. Thanks for the info, i'll check out the tmobile signal booster as I'm sure I will qualify.
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Just a quick note... the T-Mobile (Cel-Fi) require a 3G signal to boost. Since 2G is all that is available at my home, it was not an option for me when I had my Nexus 4.
As for cell towers in your back yard... I wouldn't mind having our small town's tower much closer to me (considering it is disguised as a tree).
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Got the phone not that anyone really needed an update. I can say with certainty the move from the Note 3 screen to the Moto X is a bit of a shock. Especially since I'm going from pure 5.7" usable screen to 4.375" (4.7" includes the buttons). Of course I knew what I was getting into, but that doesn't mean it still can't shock a bit.
This is a really well thought out phone. When this came out I was totally caught up as a new Android user in the "arms race" of software / hardware functionality going on with all the new phones, and I forgot until now how sometimes just a few features that aren't that glamorous on paper can be so nice. This is why I was partial to Apple for so many years, they always seemed to have things setup in a way that made life a touch easier in moments.
This phone takes that to a new level, and I hope they are able to sustain this direction under Lenovo. The notification system, the touchless controls, and the minimal but purposeful software Motorola added is so great. Some of the simple stuff too is great - a more natural unlock motion and the time that fades in when I pull the phone out of my pocket to see what time it is. I can see why so many of you are passionate about the phone. All this stuff on paper is hard to show off, but get it in your hands for a bit and it's a "wow this is nice" experience.
Anyway I'm pleased - thanks everyone.

I had a GNote3 that I returned for my Moto X. Loved, loved, loved the GNote3 screen but hated, hated, hated Touchwiz and the crap Samsung radios.
vicegrips said:
2. Camera isn't great, but it is much better than initial release.
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The camera is not great in low light and indoor shots and varies with HDR on or off. It is an ISO/white balancing problem that can be improved with software. There are paid camera apps like Camera Awesome and FV-5 that help but they don't open with the wrist gesture, which is a very nice feature.
Colors are not as vibrant even outdoors, but again paid camera apps help with this as does Snapseed post processing.
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3. Voice activation is also much more consistent than initial release.
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Voice activation is far better on the Moto X than S-voice on the GNote3.
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5. Great battery life - among the best
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GNote3 had a better battery life than the Moto X. But among the non-phablets, the Moto X is second only to the Droid Maxx, which is #1 but isn't on TMobile anyhow.
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6. Less buggy experience as it is closer to stock Android
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It's stock android+ - the plus being touchless controls, motorola assist and active display. Touchless Controls + Motorola Assist = true handsfree driving experience for calls and texts. Active notifications are nice, too.
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7. ~$300 in my pocket by the time I sell my replacement Note 3 and buy Moto X with the $70 sale
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Depends on how much you can sell the GNote3 for.
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#6 is interesting to me because what bothers me since switching from Apple is overall quality. In one year with Android I have had hardware problems, endless software bugs, and while I still like Android more than iOS eliminating the headaches with bugs sure sounds appealing right now.
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Bugs come with the territory on Android. But in return for tolerating some bugs and finding fixes for them, you get freedom. If minimal bugs is important to you, get an iPhone.

I can't believe the radios on Samsung are still so bad. I would consider the note 3 as a second phone and put CM on it but it would be a pointless endeavor.
MotoX Developer Edition went from German 4.4.2 to Great Britain 4.4.2 to T-Mobile 4.4.2 no problem. Fastboot FTW!

SymbioticGenius said:
I can't believe the radios on Samsung are still so bad. I would consider the note 3 as a second phone and put CM on it but it would be a pointless endeavor.
MotoX Developer Edition went from German 4.4.2 to Great Britain 4.4.2 to T-Mobile 4.4.2 no problem. Fastboot FTW!
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Based on the phones I've owned...and guests phones, my only phone options that I've witnessed working in my house (not having to go outside to make a call) are Motorola and iPhones.
And most the big phone brands and flagships have entered my house. Lol
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kj2112 said:
Based on the phones I've owned...and guests phones, my only phone options that I've witnessed working in my house (not having to go outside to make a call) are Motorola and iPhones.
And most the big phone brands and flagships have entered my house. Lol
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Yes... ironic that it seems the actual "phone" part of most of today's superphones is an afterthought.

Solutions Etcetera said:
Yes... ironic that it seems the actual "phone" part of most of today's superphones is an afterthought.
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Not for me. 2 years outside making calls on my s2....never again. Gets cold and wet too much. Lol
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Texts were tough inside even...and using data if my internet was down...no way!
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Does Your Moto X Ever Get Hot?

I'm thinking about getting a Moto X. I usually get a top-tier phone, but this one has really caught my eye.
I want a high-end device, but the "best" phones are all rather large. When I started looking at all the different "mini" versions, it turns out most of those phones are about the same as the Moto X. Nobody is really packaging their best phone with a smaller display; all the minis are pretty much 1.7GHz dual core units with 720-line displays. Compared to most of those the Moto X really fits my hand, and I like a lot of the features.
One thing I'm curious about is the operating temperature. My last three phones have all gotten pretty hot from time to time, but I read in a review that the Moto X draws a bit less current, and as a result it also runs a good bit cooler than some faster phones. This phone does seem to get a lot of life for a 2200mah battery.
Has anybody noticed any heat from this phone, or that it's particularly cool compared to other phones you've had? FWIW, I'd be using the Verizon version with 32GB.
Thanks in advance.

It gets warm when in my truck with GPS on, charging, and listening to podcasts... but no where near as warm as my Nexus.

Solutions Etcetera said:
It gets warm when in my truck with GPS on, charging, and listening to podcasts... but no where near as warm as my Nexus.
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Which Nexus model is that?

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Which Nexus model is that?
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Both 4 and 5.

No where near as the galaxy s4. The galaxy s4 gets so hot it burns lol.
MOTO X Slapped

I must say the Moto X is the of the coolest higher end phone I've used. There is absolutely no issue with heat on mine, even with a few hours of video running.
Both Samsung and LG phones can quite hot for me. Naturally any phone will get hot with prolonged GPS use.

i mean it gets warm, but thats it. i wouldnt call it hot compared to my Gnex, which would literally be on the verge of burning my face off. only time my X gets warm is if im using it while its charging. other than that, no problems at all

cpurick said:
I'm thinking about getting a Moto X. I usually get a top-tier phone, but this one has really caught my eye.
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I guess it all depends on what you mean by top tier. If by top tier you mean a phone that works great as a phone, feels good in your hand, has a nice screen for its size, no lag and stock android plus, with the plus being very useful extras like touchless controls, motorola assist and active display, then the Moto X is top-tier. If by top-tier you mean has the best specs on paper but has lag due to its ridiculous OEM skin, drops calls and can't hold a 4G LTE signal well in weak signal areas, then by all means get the top-tier GNote3. I had it and returned it and got 2 Moto X's instead.
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One thing I'm curious about is the operating temperature.
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Never gets hot even when I WiFi tether my computer to it. My GNex used to get boiling hot when I did that.
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as a result it also runs a good bit cooler than some faster phones.
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What do you mean by faster? The CPU clock speed? Because I tested it side-by-side with the GNote3 and the Moto X beat the GNote3 in every data speed test I ran and opened apps and loaded web pages noticeably faster than the GNote3.

I don't think so. My note3 consistently pulls faster data TMob vs TMob on speed test.
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I don't think so. My note3 consistently pulls faster data TMob vs TMob on speed test.
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I am on Verizon. The Moto X and the GNote3 and even my GNex all do well in strong signal areas. Where the signal is weak, the Moto X outperforms them all.

Cozume said:
I am on Verizon. The Moto X and the GNote3 and even my GNex all do well in strong signal areas. Where the signal is weak, the Moto X outperforms them all.
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Hmmm... Probably. Didn't get to test x at work on day off. I switched to T-Mobile. My note has been pulling faster on TMob vs x on atnt. Note is still pulling down faster at apartment. At work, that will probably be true, x pulling down faster on a weaker signal. My refill runs out today on my note and might be awhile before I get to test again.
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Moto X is getting hot
I have recently bought Moto X mobile, it is getting heat wen it is in charging, When i use camera, when i play games and wen i use some long time(not too long)...did anyone find this same issue in ur Moto X.???
Pls let me know..!!!

rranjith said:
I have recently bought Moto X mobile, it is getting heat wen it is in charging, When i use camera, when i play games and wen i use some long time(not too long)...did anyone find this same issue in ur Moto X.???
Pls let me know..!!!
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I'm too facing that issue. but that doesn't impact the usage or performance of x. even many of the youtube users checked that it is heating up little but not as xperia z2
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This morning i woke up and my x was at 125° or 52c not sure if I have an issue or not but it seems like the general opinion is that it runs cool.
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To me it seems that the front and back of my TMo Developer Edition is too hot. Just got an app to meaure the temp and its 39C without any serious load (facebook or just web browsing).
Anyone else has measurements to compare?

My dev edition gets hot with Maps navigation such that Maps just dies. If I charge it when using navigation, Maps dies quickly. Else it lasts for a while longer before dying. My note 3 and note 4 can go on and on with navigation even being charged at the same time.

That's nothing to worry about. If it actually overheats, it will shut down before damage is done. ?

Unimpressed !

Coming from the Droid Maxx i am unimpressed. I thought with all the specs being better the phone would be better. It isn't. Not by a long shot. Today with my first full day of what would be its normal use
1 - the battery didnt make it through 3/4 of the day with out me having to plug it in( same as my maxx).
2- You cant talk and go online at the same time or use any apps that require an internet connection. This is a deal breaker for me. Not only have I become used to having that ability I now rely on it and need that ability. I called Verizon and the guy told me that at the end of the year there wohld be an update to make it so i could via Wifi. As I said this is a deal breaker for me. I informed the man i would be returning the phone.
3- The phone gets hot ? I was litstening to my music and noticed how warm it was through my pocket ?
4- This so called rapid charger is garbage. It still took 3-4 hours to charge the phone completly. The charger it's self only has room for 1 usb cord and the way its set up it takes up 2 spots on my surg protector..
If your coming from a Samsung or LG or any other phone your probably going to like it. I think that the 2013 line of Moto phones set the bar so high that the bump in the specs just isnt enough to impress( except for the new X phone. My girlfriend has one and it is a worthy step forward ) I hope this isnt the direction Moto is heading w/ Leveno being in charge.
That all being said. I'll be sending this phone back and looking at the Nexus. Hopefully it will impress .
P.S. My girlfriends X is uploading Lolipop right now.

Sounds like a faulty version

tombaldwin6 said:
Coming from the Droid Maxx i am unimpressed. I thought with all the specs being better the phone would be better. It isn't. Not by a long shot. Today with my first full day of what would be its normal use
1 - the battery didn't make it through 3/4 of the day with out me having to plug it in( same as my maxx).
2- You cant talk and go online at the same time or use any apps that require an internet connection. This is a deal breaker for me. Not only have I become used to having that ability I now rely on it and need that ability. I called Verizon and the guy told me that at the end of the year there would be an update to make it so i could via WiFi. As I said this is a deal breaker for me. I informed the man i would be returning the phone.
3- The phone gets hot ? I was listening to my music and noticed how warm it was through my pocket ?
4- This so called rapid charger is garbage. It still took 3-4 hours to charge the phone completely. The charger it's self only has room for 1 USB cord and the way its set up it takes up 2 spots on my surge protector..
If your coming from a Samsung or LG or any other phone your probably going to like it. I think that the 2013 line of Moto phones set the bar so high that the bump in the specs just isnt enough to impress( except for the new X phone. My girlfriend has one and it is a worthy step forward ) I hope this isn't the direction Moto is heading w/ Leveno being in charge.
That all being said. I'll be sending this phone back and looking at the Nexus. Hopefully it will impress .
P.S. My girlfriends X is uploading Lollipop right now.
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#1, #3, and #4 are all related to the battery, which could be defective, or it may just need to be reconditioned. The rapid charger is designed to rapidly charge up to 8 hours battery life in 15 minutes, after that it will then slow down to complete the full charge. The phone has been known to get hot when it is on the rapid charger.
But even if you get past the battery issues, #2 is still a deal breaker for you.
BTW: Lenovo didn't take over Motorola until the end of October and the Turbo was already in the works before then.

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Coming from the Droid Maxx i am unimpressed. I thought with all the specs being better the phone would be better. It isn't. Not by a long shot.
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You listed the specs as reasoning for buying the phone and then rattled off nitpicks which aren't specs related.
I'm curious what your screen settings are and screen on time is. That battery usage seems uncharacteristic from what I've seen on mine and in the battery thread.

#2 was covered in every review of the phone that I saw online. If that was a deal breaker you should have done better research on the phone before you bought it. You could have saved yourself time and money and saved us your sob story lol. The rest seems like you got a bad unit but, we would need to know your "screen on-time" to get a better idea.
I find it funny that you put down the Turbo for battery life and praise the X which has maybe the smallest battery of any 2014 flagship phone. If you had the X it probably would have been dead in half the time as the Turbo.

My screen settings are 1 , brightness is on auto and as for sleep its at 1 min.
Your right I missed the part of the reviews I read about how the phone is not capable of simotainously making a phone call and going online at the same time. ( Something 4g lte brought us a few of years ago and that my 3-4 year old bionic is capable of ? ). I'm sorry you felt my thoughts on this supposed flagship phone was a sob story. I felt it was more of a warning to other Maxx owners who were about make a similar mislead decision. Also having used both phones ( and not just held them at the store ) I think my review of the was spot on. If you already have a Maxx or Ultra the Turbo is NOT a big enough step forward to warrant the change. As far the new X goes it IS a step forward from last years model. So enjoy your ignorante bliss opinion and your time with your over spected but uselessly speced phone as my Maxx does everything your silly phone does and more ( i can go on the net and talk at the same time )

Tom I still suspect you got a bad unit. Battery is an area where the Turbo really shines. That's great if you're happy w/the Maxx over the Turbo, but I think your statement
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So enjoy your ignorante bliss opinion and your time with your over spected but uselessly speced phone as my Maxx does everything your silly phone does and more ( i can go on the net and talk at the same time )
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Is a little exaggerated.

Mr. 64impala (BTW nice car) . You could very well be right. I could have got a bad unit. However after spending a few days with the phone I'm not willing to put the time and energy into getting a replacement . I would just rather send it back and stick with my Maxx. I hope this phone brings you guys much enjoyment and satisfaction. I was just hoping for another game changing phone like the Maxx was for me. It was never my intention to put down the turbo although after reading my review I could see how was taken that way.

I am using on Tmo- and #2 is not a problem for me. Bestphone ever. Not sure how many cycles you have been through on the batt, but I am a power user like you and this is the only phone that I have had that makes it through the day. The X lasted until about 1pm....
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tombaldwin6 said:
Coming from the Droid Maxx i am unimpressed. I thought with all the specs being better the phone would be better. It isn't. Not by a long shot. Today with my first full day of what would be its normal use
1 - the battery didnt make it through 3/4 of the day with out me having to plug it in( same as my maxx).
2- You cant talk and go online at the same time or use any apps that require an internet connection. This is a deal breaker for me. Not only have I become used to having that ability I now rely on it and need that ability. I called Verizon and the guy told me that at the end of the year there wohld be an update to make it so i could via Wifi. As I said this is a deal breaker for me. I informed the man i would be returning the phone.
3- The phone gets hot ? I was litstening to my music and noticed how warm it was through my pocket ?
4- This so called rapid charger is garbage. It still took 3-4 hours to charge the phone completly. The charger it's self only has room for 1 usb cord and the way its set up it takes up 2 spots on my surg protector..
If your coming from a Samsung or LG or any other phone your probably going to like it. I think that the 2013 line of Moto phones set the bar so high that the bump in the specs just isnt enough to impress( except for the new X phone. My girlfriend has one and it is a worthy step forward ) I hope this isnt the direction Moto is heading w/ Leveno being in charge.
That all being said. I'll be sending this phone back and looking at the Nexus. Hopefully it will impress .
P.S. My girlfriends X is uploading Lolipop right now.
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Just going to mention this since no-one brought it up.
The phone can already do voice and data if you are connected via wifi. I tested this just now to be 120% sure.
Verizon has said they will be releasing an update by the end of the year to enable VoLTE (Voice over LTE). This will allow you to use the data connection while on a call when you are NOT connected to wifi. This was discussed in nearly all of the reviews that I read about the phone.

Manjews said:
Just going to mention this since no-one brought it up.
The phone can already do voice and data if you are connected via wifi. I tested this just now to be 120% sure.
Verizon has said they will be releasing an update by the end of the year to enable VoLTE (Voice over LTE). This will allow you to use the data connection while on a call when you are NOT connected to wifi. This was discussed in nearly all of the reviews that I read about the phone.
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Man, I have a Turbo and love it, but VoLTE is not going to be all it's cracked up to be, especially for those that travel or live in spotty areas. Because:
1. You are connected to LTE and make a call. Great! You have data. But if you go outside of LTE the call drops. No auto switching to CDMA, better hang up and call again.
2. You are outside of LTE when the call starts. To bad, you have no data. Travel into an area with LTE? To bad, call won't auto switch to VoLTE; you'd have to hang up and make a new call. and make sure to stay in LTE range because of #1.
I get what they are trying to do, but going outside of LTE and having a call just DROP is going to make a lot of people very, very angry.

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Man, I have a Turbo and love it, but VoLTE is not going to be all it's cracked up to be, especially for those that travel or live in spotty areas. Because:
1. You are connected to LTE and make a call. Great! You have data. But if you go outside of LTE the call drops. No auto switching to CDMA, better hang up and call again.
2. You are outside of LTE when the call starts. To bad, you have no data. Travel into an area with LTE? To bad, call won't auto switch to VoLTE; you'd have to hang up and make a new call. and make sure to stay in LTE range because of #1.
I get what they are trying to do, but going outside of LTE and having a call just DROP is going to make a lot of people very, very angry.
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Ya, I will agree, the fact that it will drop the call if you lose LTE coverage does suck.
Unfortunately this is likely going to be an issue with most phones going forward, not something just specific to the turbo.

I'll be taking mine back. I put almost two weeks into mine and I don't think the battery is great. The moto voice is sketchy at best not even topping last year's moto x. I came from an LG G2 and just watching how crappy this camera is, compared to a phone with almost half the mp is ridiculous. They added the top of the line processor a high mp camera locked up the bootloader and called it a day. If you like to take pictures (my main appeal for the high mp count, or want something more than vanilla android., don't bother with this phone. This is the last chance I gave to Moto. Just not my thing.

The Mega Pixel Myth
You do realize that just because it is a high megapixel camera that that doesn't mean it is a high quality camera?
A megapixel is nothing more than one million tiny dots of color. Having a high megapixel camera just means that you have more dots in the photo. It doesn't mean that they will be perfect dots. It could very well be 21 million crappy dots. A good photo has more to do with the camera lens, circuitry, sensors, lighting, composition, etc.
The truth is that you don't really need anything more than 8 megapixels to take a great photo that can be printed on an 8 x 10. Anything more than that is just overkill.
The only reason why I like having a camera with more megapixels is so that I can crop them and still have an image with enough pixels to look good printed.

Just to address the OPs second issue, I'm using the Turbo on Three in the UK and can use the data connection and make calls at the same time without issue.

The Turbo has only one modem in it, capable of both CDMA and GSM, but not at the same time. With VZW, calls take place on CDMA, but data is over LTE (GSM). Other carriers that have been mentioned in this thread (TMO, Three) are GSM carriers so calls take place over GSM as well.

Camera reallly disappointment..especially in low-light..so much noise.just unacceptable..

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Camera reallly disappointment..especially in low-light..so much noise.just unacceptable..
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Welcome to smartphone cameras. Is this your first visit?

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Welcome to smartphone cameras. Is this your first visit?
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No..just compared with other high-ends..

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No..just compared with other high-ends..
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Such as?

Need feedback...

I'm currently looking into the Droid Turbo as I need options on a new phone. My Note 4 has been replaced twice, on my third phone with horrible screen issues. Had the iP6+, really bad screens and iOS sucks. Came from a year with the Moto X and it served me well, but bad battery life and bad burn-in forced me to get a new phone.
Needless to say, I'm limited on phone choices currently. I originally looked at the Turbo when it came out but the lack of brightness and no voice/data turned me off. But since it got the AC 1.0 update, that's a step in the right direction. I've also been told that the brightness issue has been resolved as well, but no one can seem to confirm it.
So, those of you that have had the Turbo, would you buy it again? How's the real battery life? Voice/data working great? How about screen issues, as far as discoloration or uniformity?
Thanks!

32 hours on, 4 hours of screen on time.. Still have 26% remaining. No regrets.

Anyone else?

I am really loving this phone. I had a couple small complaints, but they were patched with the last update. Battery life is awesome. Simultaneous voice and data working now. The screen is gorgeous. I would definitely buy again .If you need any more convincing watch this. His reviews are always spot on.

Battery life is phenomonal

I can't use voice and data and I took the update, tried it just last night.

Coming from a Galaxy S3... both me and my wife. Both of us are very happy. Screen is plenty bright. Not seeing any obvious screen uniformity issues... I haven't been "looking" for them, but I tend to notice things like that quickly, so it's good enough, at least. Battery life is far better than the S3, as expected... I guess I'm not a heavy user in that sense. Certainly would recommend this device (or the MotoX).

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I can't use voice and data and I took the update, tried it just last night.
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Have you enabled HD Calling? It won't work until you have done that.

Non HD call quality with Advanced Calling enabled is a little quirky. The last update addressed all the issues mentioned in early reviews AFAICT. I get 33 hours battery life on average and 4 1/2 hours screen on.
Definitely would buy again.
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My wife and I also came from the S3 and we love this phone, no regrets at all.

I am very happy with mine. I see no issues related to screen brightness. VOLTE and data work just fine. I did have a speaker issue with my first device, which was among the first batch produced. I had it replaced with one from a newer batch and have had no issues thus far. If you are particular about your devices, I think there are few options that are "perfect" in their quality control. The devices are too complicated, with too may features, to expect that they will all leave the factory perfect.