State of the Union - Moto X? - Moto X Q&A

I posted another thread on here earlier, but Samsung has driven me over the edge. Both my Note 3 and my wife's Note 3 have hardware problems requiring manufacturer replacement. Every Samsung product I buy (including non-mobile) just has problems - I have never had more problems with any other brand. Their support and service is terrible, and if it wasn't for T-Mobile I'd be looking at a 10 day warranty repair through Samsung. So bad quality and bad support just tell me "time to move on."
As mentioned I'm with T-Mobile and my house is in a valley so signal isn't great, but they are mailing me out the signal booster. Otherwise my signal is typically OK. I read up on the Moto X a lot awhile back during initial reviews, but haven't kept up because I went with the Note 3. Beyond obviously losing the stylus and larger screen, is this a fair assessment of what I'll be looking at with the Moto X?
1. No WiFi calling for T-Mobile, but also read a report where the Moto X maintains calls with 8-9db worse signal than other phones.
2. Camera isn't great, but it is much better than initial release.
3. Voice activation is also much more consistent than initial release.
4. Motorola, in warranty situations, mails out a replacement.
5. Great battery life - among the best
6. Less buggy experience as it is closer to stock Android
7. ~$300 in my pocket by the time I sell my replacement Note 3 and buy Moto X with the $70 sale
#6 is interesting to me because what bothers me since switching from Apple is overall quality. In one year with Android I have had hardware problems, endless software bugs, and while I still like Android more than iOS eliminating the headaches with bugs sure sounds appealing right now.

If you're comparing Android to iOS 5 or 6, Android still has more bugs. I have avoided iOS 7 thus far. I gave up on Sammy years ago due to reasons you have stated so can't speak for certain, but am willing to bet there are plenty of bugs in all of Samsung's cruft that won't be present on a Moto x.
Don't count on Motorola shipping you a replacement throughout the warranty period.
The radios in the Moto X are superior to the Nexus 4 and 5. I'm in the mountains and never had reliable service at home and around town with the Nexus phones. No problems with the Moto X; one of the best things about this phone! Another is the quality of the speaker (phone).

My X is on Verizon but yes the signal is excellent. The camera is fine but not as good as Note3. Voice controls work well. Not sure about warranty replacement, doubt it. Considering you are on TMO you can pop your Sim in anything and keep going. Battery life is very good 18+ hours runtime with 3-4 hours of screentime stock unrooted. Nearly stock Android is nice, first android device I have not needed to root and run custom rom (posting this from my rooted hisense sero7 pro tablet). Take the money and run while the Note3 still holds value. MotoX should be worth $150 later this year when you get bored with it.
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Side by side, my Moto X was 4-5 db lower than my friend's HTC One. Both phones were on T-Mobile.
Don't worry about the warranty. Except for the occasional app crash, my phone runs flawlessly. Though I haven't had an app crash since 4.4.2, so maybe that's fixed now too.

Cool thanks everyone. I'll go with the Moto X. It sounds like it is the perfect answer to what I need right now.

vicegrips said:
Cool thanks everyone. I'll go with the Moto X. It sounds like it is the perfect answer to what I need right now.
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Another owner chiming in here. Been through each company (except Sony cause I'm on TMO). Motorola phones (even the Moto X) have always had the best signal in my area. Where other phones would get -100dB and drop me off HSPA, I can get around -90 below otherwise and maintain a steady connection.

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As mentioned I'm with T-Mobile and my house is in a valley so signal isn't great, but they are mailing me out the signal booster.
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I'm with t-mobile and am in the same signal situation as you. My Moto X signal reception is slightly worse than my Sony Advance, and sometimes I am unable to make a call with the Moto X where I was able to with the Sony.
You and I are in a valley. No carrier can reliably supply a consistent signal in my location and it doesn't matter what brand phone I have. I'm curious that when you get the signal booster if you could report your findings with it here on it's performance.
Since the Moto x does not have wi-fi calling I use the "Xfinity Connect App" to make wi-fi calls if I can't make one regularly, which is rare since I can usually find a signal somewhere in my house, but sometimes I can't. You can make and receive calls from your home phone # from any location where you can get a wi-fi connection. For instance, I can make and receive home phone calls at my workplace thru "Connect App". Obviously, you must be a Comcast subscriber to use it.

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I'm with t-mobile and am in the same signal situation as you. My Moto X signal reception is slightly worse than my Sony Advance, and sometimes I am unable to make a call with the Moto X where I was able to with the Sony.
You and I are in a valley. No carrier can reliably supply a consistent signal in my location and it doesn't matter what brand phone I have. I'm curious that when you get the signal booster if you could report your findings with it here on it's performance.
Since the Moto x does not have wi-fi calling I use the "Xfinity Connect App" to make wi-fi calls if I can't make one regularly, which is rare since I can usually find a signal somewhere in my house, but sometimes I can't. You can make and receive calls from your home phone # from any location where you can get a wi-fi connection. For instance, I can make and receive home phone calls at my workplace thru "Connect App". Obviously, you must be a Comcast subscriber to use it.
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You know I can't give T-Mobile a total pass here because I had AT&T for nearly 14 months in this same house and never had problems. A friend stayed with us for 3 months when they moved out here with Verizon and they also didn't have a problem. As far as I can tell it is because of the placement of T-Mobile's 1 tower, where if I'm not mistaken AT&T has 2 and Verizon maybe 3? I still like TMobile better. They are cheaper and their customer service reps have been great to work with.
Regardless, I do seem to consistently get 1 bar of 4G upstairs so I think the signal booster should work at home. If you are in the same spot you might want to call T-Mobile because they have started sending signal boosters out for free again. They just run a quick study on your area to see if you qualify, the equipment is sent, but you do have to return it if you ever leave.

vicegrips said:
You know I can't give T-Mobile a total pass here because I had AT&T for nearly 14 months in this same house and never had problems.
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I understand. In my case no provider can supply a consistent signal where I live. It's all about the towers, and nobody wants towers in there backyard. My local government won't allow them in the area where I live, so I'm stuck. Thanks for the info, i'll check out the tmobile signal booster as I'm sure I will qualify.

My gsm moto x is pulling down signal where work Samsung Verizon is unusable in a few areas. Damn I miss Motorola and Nokia phones.
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Solutions Etcetera said:
If you're comparing Android to iOS 5 or 6, Android still has more bugs. I have avoided iOS 7 thus far. I gave up on Sammy years ago due to reasons you have stated so can't speak for certain, but am willing to bet there are plenty of bugs in all of Samsung's cruft that won't be present on a Moto x.
Don't count on .
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My observation is with iOS generally, there may core functionality missing that should really be there. But broadly the OS that is there working pretty well overall.
With Android, there's often a lot of stuff on there that just doesn't work
don't get me wrong, I'm a huge android fan.

rupterr said:
I understand. In my case no provider can supply a consistent signal where I live. It's all about the towers, and nobody wants towers in there backyard. My local government won't allow them in the area where I live, so I'm stuck. Thanks for the info, i'll check out the tmobile signal booster as I'm sure I will qualify.
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Just a quick note... the T-Mobile (Cel-Fi) require a 3G signal to boost. Since 2G is all that is available at my home, it was not an option for me when I had my Nexus 4.
As for cell towers in your back yard... I wouldn't mind having our small town's tower much closer to me (considering it is disguised as a tree).
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Got the phone not that anyone really needed an update. I can say with certainty the move from the Note 3 screen to the Moto X is a bit of a shock. Especially since I'm going from pure 5.7" usable screen to 4.375" (4.7" includes the buttons). Of course I knew what I was getting into, but that doesn't mean it still can't shock a bit.
This is a really well thought out phone. When this came out I was totally caught up as a new Android user in the "arms race" of software / hardware functionality going on with all the new phones, and I forgot until now how sometimes just a few features that aren't that glamorous on paper can be so nice. This is why I was partial to Apple for so many years, they always seemed to have things setup in a way that made life a touch easier in moments.
This phone takes that to a new level, and I hope they are able to sustain this direction under Lenovo. The notification system, the touchless controls, and the minimal but purposeful software Motorola added is so great. Some of the simple stuff too is great - a more natural unlock motion and the time that fades in when I pull the phone out of my pocket to see what time it is. I can see why so many of you are passionate about the phone. All this stuff on paper is hard to show off, but get it in your hands for a bit and it's a "wow this is nice" experience.
Anyway I'm pleased - thanks everyone.

I had a GNote3 that I returned for my Moto X. Loved, loved, loved the GNote3 screen but hated, hated, hated Touchwiz and the crap Samsung radios.
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2. Camera isn't great, but it is much better than initial release.
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The camera is not great in low light and indoor shots and varies with HDR on or off. It is an ISO/white balancing problem that can be improved with software. There are paid camera apps like Camera Awesome and FV-5 that help but they don't open with the wrist gesture, which is a very nice feature.
Colors are not as vibrant even outdoors, but again paid camera apps help with this as does Snapseed post processing.
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3. Voice activation is also much more consistent than initial release.
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Voice activation is far better on the Moto X than S-voice on the GNote3.
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5. Great battery life - among the best
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GNote3 had a better battery life than the Moto X. But among the non-phablets, the Moto X is second only to the Droid Maxx, which is #1 but isn't on TMobile anyhow.
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6. Less buggy experience as it is closer to stock Android
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It's stock android+ - the plus being touchless controls, motorola assist and active display. Touchless Controls + Motorola Assist = true handsfree driving experience for calls and texts. Active notifications are nice, too.
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7. ~$300 in my pocket by the time I sell my replacement Note 3 and buy Moto X with the $70 sale
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Depends on how much you can sell the GNote3 for.
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#6 is interesting to me because what bothers me since switching from Apple is overall quality. In one year with Android I have had hardware problems, endless software bugs, and while I still like Android more than iOS eliminating the headaches with bugs sure sounds appealing right now.
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Bugs come with the territory on Android. But in return for tolerating some bugs and finding fixes for them, you get freedom. If minimal bugs is important to you, get an iPhone.

I can't believe the radios on Samsung are still so bad. I would consider the note 3 as a second phone and put CM on it but it would be a pointless endeavor.
MotoX Developer Edition went from German 4.4.2 to Great Britain 4.4.2 to T-Mobile 4.4.2 no problem. Fastboot FTW!

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I can't believe the radios on Samsung are still so bad. I would consider the note 3 as a second phone and put CM on it but it would be a pointless endeavor.
MotoX Developer Edition went from German 4.4.2 to Great Britain 4.4.2 to T-Mobile 4.4.2 no problem. Fastboot FTW!
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Based on the phones I've owned...and guests phones, my only phone options that I've witnessed working in my house (not having to go outside to make a call) are Motorola and iPhones.
And most the big phone brands and flagships have entered my house. Lol
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Based on the phones I've owned...and guests phones, my only phone options that I've witnessed working in my house (not having to go outside to make a call) are Motorola and iPhones.
And most the big phone brands and flagships have entered my house. Lol
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Yes... ironic that it seems the actual "phone" part of most of today's superphones is an afterthought.

Solutions Etcetera said:
Yes... ironic that it seems the actual "phone" part of most of today's superphones is an afterthought.
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Not for me. 2 years outside making calls on my s2....never again. Gets cold and wet too much. Lol
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Texts were tough inside even...and using data if my internet was down...no way!
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[Q] Insane number of problems with this phone?

I'm on my third replacement and here are just some of the problems I've had.
1. Horrible vibrate motor that sounds like a broken RC toy car.
2. Battery life is TERRIBLE. Screenshot below. And I've tried going a week without installing anything and keeping location and sync off. Same thing. The screenshot below is the phone doing nothing at all for around 8.5 hrs with around 10 minutes of use (just checking news sites).
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3. It looses signal a lot where no other phone has. I miss calls, texts, and pretty much everything else that needs a cell signal.
I live in an area that's supposed to get 3-4 bars. See the first screenshot and compare it to the second one. The phone was in the same spot within about a foot.
4. Driving mode never works when it needs to.
5. Purple tint on low brightness.
6. Camera is useless past 5PM
7. Terrible speakerphone (cant hear anyone during calls). The top speaker is pretty good though.
8. Apps take twice as long as other phones to open (I can deal with this, but it's just an annoyance that I would rather not have)
Does anyone have any ideas as to what I should do? I know I can get another replacement, but motorola's support is horrible.
Maybe moto x not is for you.
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omias said:
Maybe moto x not is for you.
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Well it's actually a nice phone outside of these problems. I guess I should probably just return it, but I was wondering if anyone else had experience with the battery drain and the no signal problem.
Losing less than 2 percent an hour on a phone is actually pretty good life. It really is. Only way to beat that would be airplane mode and turning off active notification and touch less control.
Sorry your not happy tho. Everyone has different expectations from their phones. I don't think it matters what phone you get.... There are gonna be things you aren't happy with. Guaranteed.
Two weeks in so far and I love my X... Wouldn't trade it for any phone out there today. Except maybe the Droid Maxx. But it's crazy expensive.
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Losing less than 2 percent an hour on a phone is actually pretty good life. It really is. Only way to beat that would be airplane mode and turning off active notification and touch less control.
Sorry your not happy tho. Everyone has different expectations from their phones. I don't think it matters what phone you get.... There are gonna be things you aren't happy with. Guaranteed.
Two weeks in so far and I love my X... Wouldn't trade it for any phone out there today. Except maybe the Droid Maxx. But it's crazy expensive.
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What phones have you used? I came from an htc one and note 3. Both used less than 1% an hour on standby. My Nexus 7 goes for 24hours without losing even 1%. No, I don't expect that for a phone, but I do expect a phone with a larger battery than the HTC one to get better battery life.
I think the reason for the poor battery is the poor signal. As you can see it says 84% of time with no signal. Its a phone, so I expect it to get signal where every other phone gets signal. I have a tmo moto x by the way.
Rant over
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Based on the screenshot you provided, it looks like you're running into the Google Play Services battery drain that's been troubling a lot of people for about a month now. It's up to Google to fix that one, but I wouldn't count on it I've also noticed the the US variants (The ones built in Texas) are assembled pretty poorly; I have little bits of particulate matter below my front camera lens, and the front glass doesn't line up perfectly with the sensors and camera. If signal is a problem, I would suggest another replacement.
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Based on the screenshot you provided, it looks like you're running into the Google Play Services battery drain that's been troubling a lot of people for about a month now. It's up to Google to fix that one, but I wouldn't count on it I've also noticed the the US variants (The ones built in Texas) are assembled pretty poorly; I have little bits of particulate matter below my front camera lens, and the front glass doesn't line up perfectly with the sensors and camera. If signal is a problem, I would suggest another replacement.
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It's not Google Play Services. I had that in the beginning, but I disabled location completely and it took care of that.
Signal has been a problem for all 3, so I don't think another one is going to help. There is another guy on here who has the same problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2570415
aooga said:
It's not Google Play Services. I had that in the beginning, but I disabled location completely and it took care of that.
Signal has been a problem for all 3, so I don't think another one is going to help. There is another guy on here who has the same problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2570415
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I would tend to agree with you on that thread, it might be a defect in the T-Mobile variant. The dev edition works on Tmo, but that probably isn't an option. Sorry I can't be of more help :silly:
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Losing less than 2 percent an hour on a phone is actually pretty good life. It really is. Only way to beat that would be airplane mode and turning off active notification and touch less control.
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My X loses 2-3% in 8 hours overnight. Even with sync on. All I do is turn my wifi off. If my phone lost 2% an hour in standby it would drive me crazy.
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My X loses 2-3% in 8 hours overnight. Even with sync on. All I do is turn my wifi off. If my phone lost 2% an hour in standby it would drive me crazy.
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It does drive me crazy. And it's usually more than that. With sync and pretty much everything turned off.
aooga said:
It does drive me crazy. And it's usually more than that. With sync and pretty much everything turned off.
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Well your bad signal is definitely going to impact your battery life, but have you checked betterbatterystats or wakelock detector for wakelocks?
And out of curiosity, what phone are you comparing it to when you say it takes twice as long to open apps? It's noticeably faster than both my HTC One and GS4 were, and my Nexus 5 is only marginally faster. You really gotta do a side by side to tell.
I don't think signal strength impacts battery severely. A bit I'm sure... But not enough to blame horribly bad battery life on. I'm 24 hours here... Almost 3 hours screen time and have 30 percent left. All in very low signal coverage and wifi mostly always on.
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My X loses 2-3% in 8 hours overnight. Even with sync on. All I do is turn my wifi off. If my phone lost 2% an hour in standby it would drive me crazy.
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Would love to see a screen shot of 3 percent lost in 8 hours.
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Coming from Nexus 4 and 5, I have much better signal on my T-Mobile Moto X. It really isn't even close.
Solutions Etcetera said:
Coming from Nexus 4 and 5, I have much better signal on my T-Mobile Moto X. It really isn't even close.
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I had to go outside at my house to make a call on my S2....now I can use my X in the house... One of the reasons I chose a motorola phone.
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kj2112 said:
now I can use my X in the house... One of the reasons I chose a motorola phone.
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I still have a RAZR V3. No smartphone I have had (iPhones, Nexus One, 4, 5) has been as good as it reception-wise... until the Moto X, which is actually better!
aooga said:
I'm on my third replacement and here are just some of the problems I've had.
1. Horrible vibrate motor that sounds like a broken RC toy car.
2. Battery life is TERRIBLE. Screenshot below. And I've tried going a week without installing anything and keeping location and sync off. Same thing. The screenshot below is the phone doing nothing at all for around 8.5 hrs with around 10 minutes of use (just checking news sites).
3. It looses signal a lot where no other phone has. I miss calls, texts, and pretty much everything else that needs a cell signal.
I live in an area that's supposed to get 3-4 bars. See the first screenshot and compare it to the second one. The phone was in the same spot within about a foot.
4. Driving mode never works when it needs to.
5. Purple tint on low brightness.
6. Camera is useless past 5PM
7. Terrible speakerphone (cant hear anyone during calls). The top speaker is pretty good though.
8. Apps take twice as long as other phones to open (I can deal with this, but it's just an annoyance that I would rather not have)
Does anyone have any ideas as to what I should do? I know I can get another replacement, but motorola's support is horrible.
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1. Vibrator is a bit different from other phones I used but it doesnt bother me
2. Battery life for me is either same or better then my GS4
3. Didn't notice any signal problmes
4. Driving mode works fine
5. Yes, very minor purple tint only at lowest brightness setting. Its actually so minor that it also doesnt bother me (perhaps it varies from phone to phone)
6. You got that right
7. Excellent speaker ! A bit TOO loud for my taste
8. Also dont have this problem. Phone is super fast.
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Would love to see a screen shot of 3 percent lost in 8 hours.
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I don't have one handy, been using the N5 for the last week, but heres a screen shot of my X losing 5% in 22hrs while in airplane mode.
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I don't have one handy, been using the N5 for the last week, but heres a screen shot of my X losing 5% in 22hrs while in airplane mode.
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Ohhhhhhh.... Airplane mode. Then I totally agree.
But not in Airplane mode...., 2 percent per hour is decent.
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Actually using the phone normally.... I'd say just over 3 percent per hour is very good. As shown here.
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Well your bad signal is definitely going to impact your battery life, but have you checked betterbatterystats or wakelock detector for wakelocks?
And out of curiosity, what phone are you comparing it to when you say it takes twice as long to open apps? It's noticeably faster than both my HTC One and GS4 were, and my Nexus 5 is only marginally faster. You really gotta do a side by side to tell.
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The thing is I don't have bad signal with any other phone. Every other phone gives me full bars. And I'm comparing it to the htc one and note 3. Twice as long only from a cold start or when I clear the app out of memory. If its in memory, its the same for all the phones.
I really wouldn't mind all the problems if it wasn't for the bad signal on all of the phones. Ive even paid for a new sim card to see if that was the problem.
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Coming from Nexus 4 and 5, I have much better signal on my T-Mobile Moto X. It really isn't even close.
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Wow. I don't know why three of mine have gotten worse signal. I did haven the N4 and it didn't have great signal, but it never went to no signal. This one is around 80% with no signal.

Unimpressed !

Coming from the Droid Maxx i am unimpressed. I thought with all the specs being better the phone would be better. It isn't. Not by a long shot. Today with my first full day of what would be its normal use
1 - the battery didnt make it through 3/4 of the day with out me having to plug it in( same as my maxx).
2- You cant talk and go online at the same time or use any apps that require an internet connection. This is a deal breaker for me. Not only have I become used to having that ability I now rely on it and need that ability. I called Verizon and the guy told me that at the end of the year there wohld be an update to make it so i could via Wifi. As I said this is a deal breaker for me. I informed the man i would be returning the phone.
3- The phone gets hot ? I was litstening to my music and noticed how warm it was through my pocket ?
4- This so called rapid charger is garbage. It still took 3-4 hours to charge the phone completly. The charger it's self only has room for 1 usb cord and the way its set up it takes up 2 spots on my surg protector..
If your coming from a Samsung or LG or any other phone your probably going to like it. I think that the 2013 line of Moto phones set the bar so high that the bump in the specs just isnt enough to impress( except for the new X phone. My girlfriend has one and it is a worthy step forward ) I hope this isnt the direction Moto is heading w/ Leveno being in charge.
That all being said. I'll be sending this phone back and looking at the Nexus. Hopefully it will impress .
P.S. My girlfriends X is uploading Lolipop right now.
Sounds like a faulty version
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Coming from the Droid Maxx i am unimpressed. I thought with all the specs being better the phone would be better. It isn't. Not by a long shot. Today with my first full day of what would be its normal use
1 - the battery didn't make it through 3/4 of the day with out me having to plug it in( same as my maxx).
2- You cant talk and go online at the same time or use any apps that require an internet connection. This is a deal breaker for me. Not only have I become used to having that ability I now rely on it and need that ability. I called Verizon and the guy told me that at the end of the year there would be an update to make it so i could via WiFi. As I said this is a deal breaker for me. I informed the man i would be returning the phone.
3- The phone gets hot ? I was listening to my music and noticed how warm it was through my pocket ?
4- This so called rapid charger is garbage. It still took 3-4 hours to charge the phone completely. The charger it's self only has room for 1 USB cord and the way its set up it takes up 2 spots on my surge protector..
If your coming from a Samsung or LG or any other phone your probably going to like it. I think that the 2013 line of Moto phones set the bar so high that the bump in the specs just isnt enough to impress( except for the new X phone. My girlfriend has one and it is a worthy step forward ) I hope this isn't the direction Moto is heading w/ Leveno being in charge.
That all being said. I'll be sending this phone back and looking at the Nexus. Hopefully it will impress .
P.S. My girlfriends X is uploading Lollipop right now.
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#1, #3, and #4 are all related to the battery, which could be defective, or it may just need to be reconditioned. The rapid charger is designed to rapidly charge up to 8 hours battery life in 15 minutes, after that it will then slow down to complete the full charge. The phone has been known to get hot when it is on the rapid charger.
But even if you get past the battery issues, #2 is still a deal breaker for you.
BTW: Lenovo didn't take over Motorola until the end of October and the Turbo was already in the works before then.
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Coming from the Droid Maxx i am unimpressed. I thought with all the specs being better the phone would be better. It isn't. Not by a long shot.
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You listed the specs as reasoning for buying the phone and then rattled off nitpicks which aren't specs related.
I'm curious what your screen settings are and screen on time is. That battery usage seems uncharacteristic from what I've seen on mine and in the battery thread.
#2 was covered in every review of the phone that I saw online. If that was a deal breaker you should have done better research on the phone before you bought it. You could have saved yourself time and money and saved us your sob story lol. The rest seems like you got a bad unit but, we would need to know your "screen on-time" to get a better idea.
I find it funny that you put down the Turbo for battery life and praise the X which has maybe the smallest battery of any 2014 flagship phone. If you had the X it probably would have been dead in half the time as the Turbo.
My screen settings are 1 , brightness is on auto and as for sleep its at 1 min.
Your right I missed the part of the reviews I read about how the phone is not capable of simotainously making a phone call and going online at the same time. ( Something 4g lte brought us a few of years ago and that my 3-4 year old bionic is capable of ? ). I'm sorry you felt my thoughts on this supposed flagship phone was a sob story. I felt it was more of a warning to other Maxx owners who were about make a similar mislead decision. Also having used both phones ( and not just held them at the store ) I think my review of the was spot on. If you already have a Maxx or Ultra the Turbo is NOT a big enough step forward to warrant the change. As far the new X goes it IS a step forward from last years model. So enjoy your ignorante bliss opinion and your time with your over spected but uselessly speced phone as my Maxx does everything your silly phone does and more ( i can go on the net and talk at the same time )
Tom I still suspect you got a bad unit. Battery is an area where the Turbo really shines. That's great if you're happy w/the Maxx over the Turbo, but I think your statement
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So enjoy your ignorante bliss opinion and your time with your over spected but uselessly speced phone as my Maxx does everything your silly phone does and more ( i can go on the net and talk at the same time )
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Is a little exaggerated.
Mr. 64impala (BTW nice car) . You could very well be right. I could have got a bad unit. However after spending a few days with the phone I'm not willing to put the time and energy into getting a replacement . I would just rather send it back and stick with my Maxx. I hope this phone brings you guys much enjoyment and satisfaction. I was just hoping for another game changing phone like the Maxx was for me. It was never my intention to put down the turbo although after reading my review I could see how was taken that way.
I am using on Tmo- and #2 is not a problem for me. Bestphone ever. Not sure how many cycles you have been through on the batt, but I am a power user like you and this is the only phone that I have had that makes it through the day. The X lasted until about 1pm....
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Coming from the Droid Maxx i am unimpressed. I thought with all the specs being better the phone would be better. It isn't. Not by a long shot. Today with my first full day of what would be its normal use
1 - the battery didnt make it through 3/4 of the day with out me having to plug it in( same as my maxx).
2- You cant talk and go online at the same time or use any apps that require an internet connection. This is a deal breaker for me. Not only have I become used to having that ability I now rely on it and need that ability. I called Verizon and the guy told me that at the end of the year there wohld be an update to make it so i could via Wifi. As I said this is a deal breaker for me. I informed the man i would be returning the phone.
3- The phone gets hot ? I was litstening to my music and noticed how warm it was through my pocket ?
4- This so called rapid charger is garbage. It still took 3-4 hours to charge the phone completly. The charger it's self only has room for 1 usb cord and the way its set up it takes up 2 spots on my surg protector..
If your coming from a Samsung or LG or any other phone your probably going to like it. I think that the 2013 line of Moto phones set the bar so high that the bump in the specs just isnt enough to impress( except for the new X phone. My girlfriend has one and it is a worthy step forward ) I hope this isnt the direction Moto is heading w/ Leveno being in charge.
That all being said. I'll be sending this phone back and looking at the Nexus. Hopefully it will impress .
P.S. My girlfriends X is uploading Lolipop right now.
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Just going to mention this since no-one brought it up.
The phone can already do voice and data if you are connected via wifi. I tested this just now to be 120% sure.
Verizon has said they will be releasing an update by the end of the year to enable VoLTE (Voice over LTE). This will allow you to use the data connection while on a call when you are NOT connected to wifi. This was discussed in nearly all of the reviews that I read about the phone.
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Just going to mention this since no-one brought it up.
The phone can already do voice and data if you are connected via wifi. I tested this just now to be 120% sure.
Verizon has said they will be releasing an update by the end of the year to enable VoLTE (Voice over LTE). This will allow you to use the data connection while on a call when you are NOT connected to wifi. This was discussed in nearly all of the reviews that I read about the phone.
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Man, I have a Turbo and love it, but VoLTE is not going to be all it's cracked up to be, especially for those that travel or live in spotty areas. Because:
1. You are connected to LTE and make a call. Great! You have data. But if you go outside of LTE the call drops. No auto switching to CDMA, better hang up and call again.
2. You are outside of LTE when the call starts. To bad, you have no data. Travel into an area with LTE? To bad, call won't auto switch to VoLTE; you'd have to hang up and make a new call. and make sure to stay in LTE range because of #1.
I get what they are trying to do, but going outside of LTE and having a call just DROP is going to make a lot of people very, very angry.
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Man, I have a Turbo and love it, but VoLTE is not going to be all it's cracked up to be, especially for those that travel or live in spotty areas. Because:
1. You are connected to LTE and make a call. Great! You have data. But if you go outside of LTE the call drops. No auto switching to CDMA, better hang up and call again.
2. You are outside of LTE when the call starts. To bad, you have no data. Travel into an area with LTE? To bad, call won't auto switch to VoLTE; you'd have to hang up and make a new call. and make sure to stay in LTE range because of #1.
I get what they are trying to do, but going outside of LTE and having a call just DROP is going to make a lot of people very, very angry.
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Ya, I will agree, the fact that it will drop the call if you lose LTE coverage does suck.
Unfortunately this is likely going to be an issue with most phones going forward, not something just specific to the turbo.
I'll be taking mine back. I put almost two weeks into mine and I don't think the battery is great. The moto voice is sketchy at best not even topping last year's moto x. I came from an LG G2 and just watching how crappy this camera is, compared to a phone with almost half the mp is ridiculous. They added the top of the line processor a high mp camera locked up the bootloader and called it a day. If you like to take pictures (my main appeal for the high mp count, or want something more than vanilla android., don't bother with this phone. This is the last chance I gave to Moto. Just not my thing.
The Mega Pixel Myth
You do realize that just because it is a high megapixel camera that that doesn't mean it is a high quality camera?
A megapixel is nothing more than one million tiny dots of color. Having a high megapixel camera just means that you have more dots in the photo. It doesn't mean that they will be perfect dots. It could very well be 21 million crappy dots. A good photo has more to do with the camera lens, circuitry, sensors, lighting, composition, etc.
The truth is that you don't really need anything more than 8 megapixels to take a great photo that can be printed on an 8 x 10. Anything more than that is just overkill.
The only reason why I like having a camera with more megapixels is so that I can crop them and still have an image with enough pixels to look good printed.
Just to address the OPs second issue, I'm using the Turbo on Three in the UK and can use the data connection and make calls at the same time without issue.
The Turbo has only one modem in it, capable of both CDMA and GSM, but not at the same time. With VZW, calls take place on CDMA, but data is over LTE (GSM). Other carriers that have been mentioned in this thread (TMO, Three) are GSM carriers so calls take place over GSM as well.
Camera reallly disappointment..especially in low-light..so much noise.just unacceptable..
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Camera reallly disappointment..especially in low-light..so much noise.just unacceptable..
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Welcome to smartphone cameras. Is this your first visit?
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Welcome to smartphone cameras. Is this your first visit?
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No..just compared with other high-ends..
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No..just compared with other high-ends..
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Such as?

[Q] Signal strength

I live in a fringe area of Verizon' in Phoenix . I have always had Motorola phones except for a Samsung Note 3. I never had dropped calls until I bought the Samsung phone and then Version checked my reception and said I had 7% dropped calls and they were not going to improve their service. I appeared my only option was to move to the east side of Phoenix which has great reception.
I bought the Nexus 6 in February and I haven't had any dropped calls since then. I was told Motorola had great radios and now I believe it.
My question is does any other manufacturer have a great reputation for superior radios? Unless I move I will never buy another Samsung phone but are there other phones I should consider to get good reception?
Version told me to buy the net extender which was a waste of money.
Any suggestions?
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I live in a fringe area of Verizon' in Phoenix . I have always had Motorola phones except for a Samsung Note 3. I never had dropped calls until I bought the Samsung phone and then Version checked my reception and said I had 7% dropped calls and they were not going to improve their service. I appeared my only option was to move to the east side of Phoenix which has great reception.
I bought the Nexus 6 in February and I haven't had any dropped calls since then. I was told Motorola had great radios and now I believe it.
My question is does any other manufacturer have a great reputation for superior radios? Unless I move I will never buy another Samsung phone but are there other phones I should consider to get good reception?
Version told me to buy the net extender which was a waste of money.
Any suggestions?
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HTC in recent years have been pretty good in the radio area, but still doesnt come close to Moto IMHO
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HTC in recent years have been pretty good in the radio area, but still doesnt come close to Moto IMHO
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Motorola is quite well known for good radios for smartphones. HTC made horrible ones in the past and then made some good ones until Nokia got all over their backs for copyrights infringement. Samsung is the worst I have seen when it comes to cell phone signal reception and wifi reception. They mage good screens,good Flash memory and recently cameras but that is pretty much it. My cell phone reception and wifi reception on my new Galaxy S6 is pretty much horrible.
From my recent experience 1+1 has best reception. Then nexus 6,then galaxy s6 then lg g4.
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My last phone was an LG. The reception on it was pretty horrible. I have a VZW tower I can see from my front porch. I would constantly not receive text messages and drop calls on the G2. I've had Samsung phones in the past, they've been hit or miss it seems. This is my 3rd Motorola made phone, and the reception is amazing on it. My personal opinion is you're not going to find a phone manufacturer on VZW with better radios. Fringe areas are the absolute worst by the way. I was on one until about a year and a half ago when they jumped on this tower.
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Sony Xperia X Performance on the T-Mobile Network setup question

Hello,
I'd like to buy the X Performance when it comes out and use it on my current T-Mobile network. Since I'll be buying the phone unlocked, I understand I will need to input certain "setup" info for the phone to work properly. I actually know how to enter in everything and also WHAT to enter too.......... the APN info, Voicemail, etc.
What I DON'T know how to do is enter in the following fields and where to enter them in too:
Short Message Service (SMS)
SMS Email: [email protected]
Email center: 500
Where do I go to enter those on a Sony phone?? Or, will my T-Mobile SIM card just automatically enter these in for me? Please explain.
Thank You!!
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Hello,
I'd like to buy the X Performance when it comes out and use it on my current T-Mobile network. Since I'll be buying the phone unlocked, I understand I will need to input certain "setup" info for the phone to work properly. I actually know how to enter in everything and also WHAT to enter too.......... the APN info, Voicemail, etc.
What I DON'T know how to do is enter in the following fields and where to enter them in too:
Short Message Service (SMS)
SMS Email: [email protected]
Email center: 500
Where do I go to enter those on a Sony phone?? Or, will my T-Mobile SIM card just automatically enter these in for me? Please explain.
Thank You!!
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Seems like a very premature question. You might have to wait a few months for the phone to be released to get this answer. Can I have your Galaxy S7 when you get the XP?
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Seems like a very premature question. You might have to wait a few months for the phone to be released to get this answer. Can I have your Galaxy S7 when you get the XP?
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lol What up Puff?
Well I actually got the answer I believe on the T-Mobile forum site. Someone there said they never had to that stuff and they have an unlocked phone too. I think I may have to do the APN part, but I have all that info now anyway. So it should be ok.
Yeah.......... it was just announced TODAY that the X Performance is being released GLOBALLY (including U.S. I believe) the FIRST week of July. F M L. lol
Xperia X range release dates in Europe
Xperia X – Late May 2016 (week commencing 23 May)
Xperia XA – Late June 2016 (week commencing 20 June)
Xperia X Performance – Early July 2016 (week commencing 4 July)
Haha have? No. But I WILL be selling it on eBay. lol What sucks is by then it will be worth a little less so that's less money I'll have to put towards the X Performance. Really p's me off that they're taking THIS long to release it when it was announced back in FEB. The S7 is great but there a few things that I don't like about it that are an issue for me. If you want to know more, let me know.
I don't get why they'd release it last too? It's the best of the 3 phones, so why release it LAST? Especially with the Z series now being history. Sony..........makers of great phones, employers of the world's biggest ****-tards for marketing and sales. No TV ads, no........but let's put our generic/lightweight ads on the internet only. Umm...... that's NOT how it works. The only ppl who will see those ads are the ones who are ACTIVELY seeking Sony phones. You need to get the name out there. Get some big celebrities like Clooney or Lawrence to do your ads, and make them COOL not idiotic like that new LG G5 one with Jason Statham. lol Until then, they could AT LEAST put THIS sweet ad on American TV. I think it trumps all their "usual" ads on YouTube by miles. Love the music on it too. Actually "sells" the Predictive Hybrid Autofocus rather well too without having to try so hard.
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lol What up Puff?
Well I actually got the answer I believe on the T-Mobile forum site. Someone there said they never had to that stuff and they have an unlocked phone too. I think I may have to do the APN part, but I have all that info now anyway. So it should be ok.
Yeah.......... it was just announced TODAY that the X Performance is being released GLOBALLY (including U.S. I believe) the FIRST week of July. F M L. lol
Xperia X range release dates in Europe
Xperia X – Late May 2016 (week commencing 23 May)
Xperia XA – Late June 2016 (week commencing 20 June)
Xperia X Performance – Early July 2016 (week commencing 4 July)
Haha have? No. But I WILL be selling it on eBay. lol What sucks is by then it will be worth a little less so that's less money I'll have to put towards the X Performance. Really p's me off that they're taking THIS long to release it when it was announced back in FEB. The S7 is great but there a few things that I don't like about it that are an issue for me. If you want to know more, let me know.
I don't get why they'd release it last too? It's the best of the 3 phones, so why release it LAST? Especially with the Z series now being history. Sony..........makers of great phones, employers of the world's biggest ****-tards for marketing and sales. No TV ads, no........but let's put our generic/lightweight ads on the internet only. Umm...... that's NOT how it works. The only ppl who will see those ads are the ones who are ACTIVELY seeking Sony phones. You need to get the name out there. Get some big celebrities like Clooney or Lawrence to do your ads, and make them COOL not idiotic like that new LG G5 one with Jason Statham. lol Until then, they could AT LEAST put THIS sweet ad on American TV. I think it trumps all their "usual" ads on YouTube by miles. Love the music on it too. Actually "sells" the Predictive Hybrid Autofocus rather well too without having to try so hard.
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If you don't mind, shoot me a quick list if the things you don't like about the S7. It seems like the almost perfect device on paper, but I'd like to know what a former compact user thinks.
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If you don't mind, shoot me a quick list if the things you don't like about the S7. It seems like the almost perfect device on paper, but I'd like to know what a former compact user thinks.
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Puff,
1) Screen Brightness: Under heavy sunlight, the screen brightness on the S7 is f'ign awful. Squint (your eyes) City. lol My Z3's screen brightness S*IT on the S7's.
2) Fast But Not Fast lol: Touchwiz is not that great. Yeah the S7 is very fast for downloads, but I compared the speed of jumping around from app to app on the homescreen vs. doing the same thing on my parents' Xperia Z1s (released January 2014), and THEIR phone was loading things up faster. For real. lol That lag is all Touchwiz. Plus although the Settings Menu is better than before, I still find it more confusing to navigate through than Sony's or HTC's are.
3) Audio Issues (and I'm an Audiophile......Lite lol): First off, the speaker. It's F'ING GOD AWFUL!!! Seriously. There's only one speaker, and it's facing down. Drum sounds render on it like the sound of someone shooting a laser gun. lol Then there's the headphone issue. Using the 3.5mm port is fine, but I use an "in-between" portable amp/DAC device which hooks up to my smartphone and headphones via Micro USB. While listening to music this way, at least once every few minutes (sometimes more), I will hear a hiccup or skip. I pay GOOD money for my Hi-Res music, and the S7 is taking the enjoyment away from me everyday I'm STUCK with it until the XP comes out (a nice big F U to Sony Mobile's execs for deciding to release the FLAGSHIP X phone LAST)! Oh, and using that same setup to watch YouTube videos? Forget it. Hiccup? Try "mad stutter" to the point where it's not even worth it. This makes the screen brightness issue not seem so bad. lol
4) Home Button: This might be more a preference thing, but I've come to realize I DO NOT LIKE physical home buttons. I'd found an app that makes the physical home button act like a virtual one, but it only seems to work 60-70% of the time. So since it's not 100%, this for me becomes yet another issue I have with this phone.
That's pretty much everything I guess. Samsung Pay is kinda cool, the camera is fantastic, wireless charging is kinda kewl too, looks pretty premium too (cuz they finally did what Sony's been doing FOR YEARS and stopped making plastic-bodies phones lol), but I know the XP's camera will be great, and wireless charging is no big deal to me at all (the free one I got from Samsung is not even QC 2.0). They say Samsung may make Samsung Pay available to other phones, so if that happens, I'll probably get it again on Sony, but if not, I won't lose any sleep either. But at the stores, ppl do seem interested in watching me use it. lol It BY FAR is the best mobile pay method there is. It works every time., and you can set it up to be activated via fingerprint which saves you a couple seconds of not having to enter in your passcode.
Hope that helps!
I'm surprised to hear you say the screen doesn't get bright enough. All of the phone comparisons I've seen on YouTube indicate that it's the brightest of the major manufacturers.
I need a loud speaker though because I like showing YouTube videos to my wife and listening to music in the shower. It needs to overcome background noise fairly well.
How does it fit in your hand though? Comfortable one hand operation is key for me.
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I'm surprised to hear you say the screen doesn't get bright enough. All of the phone comparisons I've seen on YouTube indicate that it's the brightest of the major manufacturers.
I need a loud speaker though because I like showing YouTube videos to my wife and listening to music in the shower. It needs to overcome background noise fairly well.
How does it fit in your hand though? Comfortable one hand operation is key for me.
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Puff,
It might come as a surprise, but it's the truth. Under heavy sunlight, I can barely see my screen. At 100% brightness, my S7 is maybe only 75-80% as bright as my Z3 was. And judging by this video comparison of the Z5 vs. the X (X & XP have the same screen I believe), the XP should be PLENTY bright. (Watch it all if you like, but in particular, make sure you check out 3:35 - 4:25).
The S7's speaker IS loud....... so you don't have to worry about that. It just doesn't sound very good is all. For showing your wife YouTube videos, the XP would be the clear winner there. STEREO front-facing speakers that are also very clear................vs. a downward facing speaker that isn't. But again, that's just my opinion. I felt the Z3's speakers were plenty loud (like the M8's), so I don't see it being a problem. Plus the XP like the S7 will be waterproof.
The S7 fits pretty well in my hand. I can't complain there. The S7 Edge that I had briefly before it was too big plus there's no way to deactivate the edge screens, so I'd constantly be accidentally starting up apps or hitting virtual buttons on screen while watching videos.
Let me know if you have any more questions, and what you think of that video too.
I don't think the X is going to support volte or evs. Sony don't care about USA
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I don't think the X is going to support volte or evs. Sony don't care about USA
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I don't know if it's that they don't care, it's just that those features (regardless of which brand phone it is) are carrier-specific, not phone-specific. I just confirmed with a T-Mobile supervisor that information, so unfortunately it sounds like if I get the XP I won't get HD Voice or VoLTE. Sux but oh well. I love the phone too much to give that stuff up. If I get it and am unhappy with it, then I'll just get the T-Mobile HTC 10 instead. A very close 2nd IMO. But the XP has a better camera, so since I don't make many calls, the XP still sounds better.
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I don't think the X is going to support volte or evs. Sony don't care about USA
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km8j,
Some GOOD news..........despite my discovery that the X series will not have VoLTE, I found out it's really not an issue at all. Having VoLTE used to mean you could browse and connect to the internet WHILE ON a call. Before you couldn't do both. But I just tested out an Xperia Z1s which does NOT have VoLTE on it, and tried to browse the net and use apps like GMail app while on a call...... and apparently now you CAN do both at the same time even w/o having VoLTE!! So really, it's not a big deal at all!
VoLTE helps to connect your calls faster too, but if I have to wait a few more seconds, so be it.
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km8j,
Some GOOD news..........despite my discovery that the X series will not have VoLTE, I found out it's really not an issue at all. Having VoLTE used to mean you could browse and connect to the internet WHILE ON a call. Before you couldn't do both. But I just tested out an Xperia Z1s which does NOT have VoLTE on it, and tried to browse the net and use apps like GMail app while on a call...... and apparently now you CAN do both at the same time even w/o having VoLTE!! So really, it's not a big deal at all!
VoLTE helps to connect your calls faster too, but if I have to wait a few more seconds, so be it.
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This is not factually accurate. For years, GSM has been able to handle simultaneous voice and data. The issue is, without VoLTE, when you make a call and are on LTE, the data signal falls back to HSPA, which is far slower and less reliable. So yes you can do data at the same time but not as fast. Also, b12 not being supported means not as good signal in areas where that is deployed. VoLTE offers shorter call connect times, yes but also higher quality audio, more reliability and more.
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This is not factually accurate. For years, GSM has been able to handle simultaneous voice and data. The issue is, without VoLTE, when you make a call and are on LTE, the data signal falls back to HSPA, which is far slower and less reliable. So yes you can do data at the same time but not as fast. Also, b12 not being supported means not as good signal in areas where that is deployed. VoLTE offers shorter call connect times, yes but also higher quality audio, more reliability and more.
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Oh geez, you're RIGHT km8j!! lol I just realized while reading your post that yeah VoLTE DOES let you stay in 4G LTE while on a call. Thanks. lol Yeah not as fast.
b12??
Ok yeah....... better quality calls too. Oh well. lol I found out now that Verizon and Sprint just got that recently, so that's prob why I remembered not being able to do both at the same time. I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile in Feb of 2014. When I had Verizon, they did not yet have that option, only AT&T and T-Mobile did. So that affected my statements made.
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Oh geez, you're RIGHT km8j!! lol I just realized while reading your post that yeah VoLTE DOES let you stay in 4G LTE while on a call. Thanks. lol Yeah not as fast.
b12??
Ok yeah....... better quality calls too. Oh well. lol I found out now that Verizon and Sprint just got that recently, so that's prob why I remembered not being able to do both at the same time. I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile in Feb of 2014. When I had Verizon, they did not yet have that option, only AT&T and T-Mobile did. So that affected my statements made.
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Sony once again has no band 12? So service with t mobile isn't 100% supported and may see signal drop in areas where t mobile branded phones will still have signal.
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Sony once again has no band 12? So service with t mobile isn't 100% supported and may see signal drop in areas where t mobile branded phones will still have signal.
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What? That's not true. Sony most certainly has Band 12/700 MHz service for the XP, and T-Mobile does offer it it as well.
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What? That's not true. Sony most certainly has Band 12/700 MHz service for the XP, and T-Mobile does offer it it as well.
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T mobile is band 12 1700 or 2100 I thought. They barely use the 700
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T mobile is band 12 1700 or 2100 I thought. They barely use the 700
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No brotha........ they might have 1700 too, but I know FOR SURE they have Band 12/700 MHz cuz I've been following that s*it for a while now. Even on that T-Mo map link I just sent you it says "Officially announced markets where 700 MHz band 12 network has been deployed have a circled 12 placed on them."
So don't worry about that. lol As long as you live in an area on the map on that page that has it now, you'll have it with the XP too, if you were to get it I mean.
No. Just because the hardware supports it, doesn't mean it will work. T-Mobile has to certify it. Sony won't go through that. They don't care
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No. Just because the hardware supports it, doesn't mean it will work. T-Mobile has to certify it. Sony won't go through that. They don't care
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As above the ideal way to use the xperia p is pretty much on Att. And even then you're lacking features. Is there anything in the near future standardizing LTE bands?
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No. Just because the hardware supports it, doesn't mean it will work. T-Mobile has to certify it. Sony won't go through that. They don't care
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I don't understand. If the network has it, and the phone supports, why wouldn't it work?? This isn't VoLTE, this is something the phone actually has. So according to you, the 2G and 3G networks wouldn't work then b/c Sony didn't have them certified through T-Mobile either...which means you wouldn't even be able to make calls on it.
Not only does this site say that both the phone and T-Mobile match up with regards to Band 12, even GSM Arena's specs sheet for the XP states it has Band 12. So I have a hard time understanding how it won't work.
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As above the ideal way to use the xperia p is pretty much on Att. And even then you're lacking features. Is there anything in the near future standardizing LTE bands?
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MGS,
Well AT&T is fine too as they (like T-Mobile) are also a GSM-based network carrier. Both are equally compatible with the XP per that site I linked you earlier.
I would hope that in the NEAR future all phone makers make HD Voice & VoLTE standard. My guess as to why that hasn't happened yet is that it would cost more money and the phone makers know that not all markets actually have these options yet. But they should just include them anyway as that is changing everyday.

Any one still using DROID TURBO in 2018 and will ?

i just bought one from ebay i had droid turbo 2 but i feel like OG droid is better , so are you going to still use your droid in 2018 and why ?
yeah
i do
Still rockin mine. Over 3 years old now. Getting close to upgrading though. Already replaced the battery but its just not cutting it anymore. its still in great shape and i love that is heavy vs the others. Just the Pixel XL seems a bit too big and even though the Pixel size is the same the screen is smaller. Also been looking at the new Moto Phones but I need Root though.
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Still rockin mine. Over 3 years old now. Getting close to upgrading though. Already replaced the battery but its just not cutting it anymore. its still in great shape and i love that is heavy vs the others. Just the Pixel XL seems a bit too big and even though the Pixel size is the same the screen is smaller. Also been looking at the new Moto Phones but I need Root though.
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I went Pixel 2 XL from the Turbo and it's really not that much bigger. It's only 1.4 cm taller.
I had to sell my U11 because of Verizon issues and went back to the turbo. Aside some lag spikes it's working well tuning the crDroid rom.
Using lineage os on mine
Yes. But why not? The Droid Turbo runs apps and games just fine. Play any game available on the playstore without problems. In some cases it runs better than most current cell phones, like Moto Z play, or any other device with a 625 snapdragon for example. I recharge my cell phone once a day. And thanks to the fact that the Android is an open source, we are running current versions of the system (soon we will have the 8.1 for the Droid turbo) So while it works, I will continue with it.
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Still using mine , although gave it a rest for last 2 month because I'm using work phone ( A5 2017). Only reason It's resting is to keep it in as best condition as possible, I love this phone and plan to keep it for much much longer. Although it's technically MOTO MAXX. . Hoping there will be Oreo port.. If there is enough interest from other developers I am willing to participate with my lower mid knowledge.
this phone is for me better than most of new phones, and I have a feeling they won't make anything similar in near future..
Was thinking about droid turbo 2 ( moto X force actually) ,to have along with MOTO MAXX but they are still way pricey and custom support seems to be non existent.. So pass for now..
Still have mine and works great for my needs. Battery seems to be doing good still. I ran mine down to 7% the other day without issues. Using RRemix for the last few months. Won't replace unless it dies of natural causes. May have to get a new battery for before I can't find any.
Still using mine as a daily driver. Waiting on a replacement battery to arrive today which will be welcome (60% shutdown is annoying) but after three years that's sort of expected.
If I could track down a clean 64GB model I would probably grab it. Wireless charging, OLED and fairly durable construction for astronomy use outdoors make the quark a great phone for me.
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Still using mine as a daily driver. Waiting on a replacement battery to arrive today which will be welcome (60% shutdown is annoying) but after three years that's sort of expected.
If I could track down a clean 64GB model I would probably grab it. Wireless charging, OLED and fairly durable construction for astronomy use outdoors make the quark a great phone for me.
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My fell directly on screen on concrete and other so many times that I don't even count anymore.. Just a hairline very small crack at the edge of screen, can't even see it. Did destroy original red cover though , and current black ballistic nylon is a bit banged up.. Cheap and easy to replace though.. I'm never using a bumper case on it.. Only screen protect..
I will think about treating it with new screen, said to myself I will buy it when it cracks , but this thing doesn't want to break lol.. It has some burn in at top from status bar and middle though , that was there since I bought it (used) ..
Battery was pretty ok but I bought new original one when I bought the phone.. I do have to say that battery on my A5 2017 is same in worst case scenario and mostly better, and it's 900mAh smaller.. But power of those phones is not comparable too..
I am still using my Droid Turbo in 2018 as my spare carry typically. (in backpack) However, ZTE is fixing my Axon 7 at the moment, and my MXPE has a smashed screen and i have to wait until Monday for the OEM used screen i was lucky enough to find on the 'bay. So I am using the Turbo on Tmobile.
Band 4 is fast enough when i have it, but it's seriously a step backwards anywhere but my home as i live in a predominately band 12 area. I was so glad to be off of Verizon, until now. The Turbo is still a great device, even when i dont have signal in entire cities during the course of work. (i deliver medical equipment these days, mostly rural areas here in Upstate SC.)
All of that being said, all of the initial comparisons to the Nexus 6 and the similarities, especially apq8084 if ya know a bit about SOC's/etc, along with re-reading posts by some of the people in the Turbo forums that I have come to know over the last 3 years, has lead me to be convinced again that the Turbo can do whatever Shamu (N6) does. That being said, I just booted into Linux with the intention (i may not succeed) of modding the su49 radio image with the latest n6 image. Will it work? The popular answer is 'Probably Not'. However, I have an extra Turbo board, an incentive to make it work, and a day to wait on my MXPE screen with crappy coverage on Tmob. Ultimately,
Turbo has been the best android I have owned aside from the axon 7. That bar was high. No wireless charging is literally the only detraction I think most of us can come up with. Honestly, though, I don't miss the trickle charge speed of wireless. and the axon 7 daughter board and charging port are easily changable and accessible, so really, it's a moot point.
Turbo is still fast enough running the newest Res Remix and @bhb27 kernel. I hope all of you know how much that dude has done for all Quark owners. and @beaups if you're on an xt1254 running a custom OS.
Turbo still has a decent screen and rock solid build quality. Not the fastest vs newer phones, but if I had held on to upgrade, it still would hang in most scenarios and still be a great device 3 years later.
UPDATE: Although I believed it to be a simple task, I did not manage to have any success in modding the shamu flashable radio zips to yield band 12. i figured i could open the zip in Winrar, swap the mdm1m9kefs.1 .2 and .3 files, but the turbo radios i have in fastboot format dont quite jive. i tried to mod my build.prop so the phone would read as 'shamu' from ro.get.prop, but that also did not work. the shamu radio files that did not have device checks written in still bootlooped after flashing and did not change permanently the device name or radios. im sure there are people that know way more about why that is totally not possible, but i had an evening to waste for the greater good. i know there are a few moto radio people around these parts that could tell me why its impossible, or how to go about utilizing the apq8084 aspect since radio does not have any checks in TZ, but still the only out i have is to assemble one of my old win 7 or xp machines and plunk away in RSDlite. probably would change nothing. but if anyone knows of the top of their head, id love to have the knowledge.
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I am still using my Droid Turbo in 2018 as my spare carry typically. (in backpack) However, ZTE is fixing my Axon 7 at the moment, and my MXPE has a smashed screen and i have to wait until Monday for the OEM used screen i was lucky enough to find on the 'bay. So I am using the Turbo on Tmobile.
Band 4 is fast enough when i have it, but it's seriously a step backwards anywhere but my home as i live in a predominately band 12 area. I was so glad to be off of Verizon, until now. The Turbo is still a great device, even when i dont have signal in entire cities during the course of work. (i deliver medical equipment these days, mostly rural areas here in Upstate SC.)
All of that being said, all of the initial comparisons to the Nexus 6 and the similarities, especially apq8084 if ya know a bit about SOC's/etc, along with re-reading posts by some of the people in the Turbo forums that I have come to know over the last 3 years, has lead me to be convinced again that the Turbo can do whatever Shamu (N6) does. That being said, I just booted into Linux with the intention (i may not succeed) of modding the su49 radio image with the latest n6 image. Will it work? The popular answer is 'Probably Not'. However, I have an extra Turbo board, an incentive to make it work, and a day to wait on my MXPE screen with crappy coverage on Tmob. Ultimately,
Turbo has been the best android I have owned aside from the axon 7. That bar was high. No wireless charging is literally the only detraction I think most of us can come up with. Honestly, though, I don't miss the trickle charge speed of wireless. and the axon 7 daughter board and charging port are easily changable and accessible, so really, it's a moot point.
Turbo is still fast enough running the newest Res Remix and @bhb27 kernel. I hope all of you know how much that dude has done for all Quark owners. and @beaups if you're on an xt1254 running a custom OS.
Turbo still has a decent screen and rock solid build quality. Not the fastest vs newer phones, but if I had held on to upgrade, it still would hang in most scenarios and still be a great device 3 years later.
UPDATE: Although I believed it to be a simple task, I did not manage to have any success in modding the shamu flashable radio zips to yield band 12. i figured i could open the zip in Winrar, swap the mdm1m9kefs.1 .2 and .3 files, but the turbo radios i have in fastboot format dont quite jive. i tried to mod my build.prop so the phone would read as 'shamu' from ro.get.prop, but that also did not work. the shamu radio files that did not have device checks written in still bootlooped after flashing and did not change permanently the device name or radios. im sure there are people that know way more about why that is totally not possible, but i had an evening to waste for the greater good. i know there are a few moto radio people around these parts that could tell me why its impossible, or how to go about utilizing the apq8084 aspect since radio does not have any checks in TZ, but still the only out i have is to assemble one of my old win 7 or xp machines and plunk away in RSDlite. probably would change nothing. but if anyone knows of the top of their head, id love to have the knowledge.
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I had long thought it would be possible for the XT1254 to at least add the LTE bands/HSPA bands the XT1225 has (LTE bands 5, 17 being the extra LTE bands the XT1254 doesn't have). That would help on AT&T, if not T-mobile. AT&T now calls their band 17 to be "band 12" in all new phone specs... But in reality they still use the band 17 portion of LTE band 12. Band 17 is a subset of LTE band 12, and their AT&T NEW phones have full band 12 compatibility for roaming purposes -- but AT&T network itself still uses only band 17 portion.
But no one was able to do that. I'm not a dev, but I messed with QSPT, QXDM and other programs to try to enable extra bands.
I'm still running a pair of them. Many thanks to @bhb27 for keeping them alive with bug fixes and security updates. Like Chazzmat, I eagerly anticipated the LG v30+. Unlike him, I was unwilling to buy without a confirmed bootloader unlock. LG is letting everyone down in that arena and it looks like it may be their new policy. I'm in no hurry to buy since the Turbos continue to perform. Nothing out there ticks the boxes and offers cdma yet.
update : my droid just arrived and battery life is very good , i got around 5-6 hours of SOT and the screen look very good it's my first phone with quad hd amoled display , as for performance it's very fast , this phone really better than any mid ranger now days and perhaps high end .
Claro que si
Claro que si es un exelente telefono funciona perfecto para todo uso aunque ya estamos esperando un moto verde pomelo xt1799-2 de china a mexico esta a un exelente precio checaremos y comentaremos saludos
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update : my droid just arrived and battery life is very good , i got around 5-6 hours of SOT and the screen look very good it's my first phone with quad hd amoled display , as for performance it's very fast , this phone really better than any mid ranger now days and perhaps high end .
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Quark was very high end, the BEST phone at end of 2014. Snapdragon 805, 3GB RAM, 1440p AMOLED, 3900 mAh battery, Qi wireless charging, 21MP camera. Lack of rear camera OIS and front facing stereo speakers (both of which Moto/Google put on the Moto Nexus 6) were the only things keeping it from perfection. It was the "reasonable" size version of the Moto Nexus 6, with most of the same specs -- yet had a BIGGER battery than the larger Nexus 6.
In 2015, I won a free LG G4, but sold it to buy my 3rd Quark (Moto XT1225 with 64GB internal storage). Quark with 3GB RAM really kept pace with other phones in 2015 and even 2016.
Only with the 2017 "next gen" Snapdragon 835 phones (LG V30, Samsung Note 8, even Galaxy S8/S8+) do you see phones that are "better" (4GB RAM) while still having features like Qi wireless charging and headset jack -- and OLED displays. And these newer phones have rear camera OIS, which Motorola left off for some reason.
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I'm still running a pair of them. Many thanks to @bhb27 for keeping them alive with bug fixes and security updates. Like Chazzmat, I eagerly anticipated the LG v30+. Unlike him, I was unwilling to buy without a confirmed bootloader unlock. LG is letting everyone down in that arena and it looks like it may be their new policy. I'm in no hurry to buy since the Turbos continue to perform. Nothing out there ticks the boxes and offers cdma yet.
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Luckily I also bought the LG V30 US998 (64GB) model, which does have bootloader unlock. That phone has TWRP and is rooted.
But my V30+, which I like better (128GB storage and BLACK) still does not have bootloader unlock. I'm going to wait a little longer. Maybe the V30S model which LG is in the midst of releasing has messed up things. Apparently the V30S will replace the other V30/V30+ models?
Well I, after over 3 years, jumped off the Turbo Train. For those looking for a good Moto Phone that you can still have a unlocked bootloader I would highly recommend the Moto G5S Plus.
I was skeptical about it at first, and it is now only Day 3 but so far I am loving it. Yes it is bigger than the turbo (about the same size as the Pixel XL which my wife has) and feels a lot more slippery but about to order a case. The camera is, in my opinion, just as good as the turbo (But i take pictures for work not so much of anything else lol). The Qualcomm 625 is very snappy and man the 4GB of ram? After rooting and turning off a TON of stuff on startup my phone hovers around 50-60% used VS 80-90% Used. My Turbo just hasn't seem to be like it use to be. Even after a clean flash it just was slow and sluggish still (might be some kind of hardware issue though as some people are perfectly happy still). I both cases I am on stock rom for VoLTE. it works decent on Verizion and haven't had any call drops, bad quality, or slow internet. The reception does seem to be 1 bar low that the Turbo though but I can't see any difference besides that.
Screen looks great, I can't see any difference. Only thing is I hate how the power button is below the volume now. The Finger scanner is nice. I didn't think I'd want one but after having one i like it. I use a Pin/Finger combo for boot at least and screen can be turned off with finger scanner as well which is nice. The normal moto stuff like chop and twist are there. It doesn't have the 4 IR Sensors like the Turbo so you cant just wave and see the time/notifications, but if you pick it up the screen does turn on which I only need it for checking time in which i usually picked it up when laying in bed anyways so I'm good there.
The speaker is louder but lacks the bass that the turbo has. I do miss the hardware keys but I had the Razr Maxx HD so i'm use to it.
Battery life so far is to be determined. I just got finished setting it all up last night and turning off a lot of startup items and what not. In a almost 6 hours period, but almost no use, has only gone down 15%. My turbo would be more than halfway gone by now (yes i replaced battery but this one lasted less in a year than the OEM battery after 2). The Turbo never lasted me more than a day anyways (I'm a heavy user).
Over all i like it and would recommend it to Turbo users looking for a Verizon phone that they can unlock and root. On and did i say that root was Free? XD No Sunshine earned in IMO. The Turbo was a GREAT phone but it just wasn't cutting it for me anymore. I will probably use it to play my games that detect root and what not or to play with/backup for now.
and i meant/needed Radiocomm, not rsd lite. lol. maybe i will assemble a circa 2012 machine just to have it again and plunk around.
I am still using the XT1254. I believe it is still a very advanced model as compared to devices now. It works very well in all aspects except battery. I am in Hong Kong and this model was never publicly sold, so even if I can get a replacement battery I cannot find someone to replace it, and I am not technically capable to do it myself. That's why I have no choice but to start looking for a new device slowly while mine is still working.
There is not any model in mind that get my interest. But my droid's battery is deteriorating and I do not think I am using it as the daily driver by the end of this year.

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