Related
I really HATE to have to post this and I will do so quite reluctantly....
I am certainly NOT a noob when it comes to Android, rooting, etc. But, the X is my first Moto android phone. I recently purchased mine via CTO with the AT&T Kitkat leak already installed. The person I bought it from claims there is NO WAY to gain root. He said he installed the leak via stock recovery.
The leak I'm running is 140.44.3.ghost_att.ATT.en.US.
Can anyone who's kind enough and well versed in Moto devices explain to me HOW I can how I can gain root on this leak and/or get Safestrap TWRP installed and if not, will I still be able to receive OTA updates being that the bootloader is locked and the stock recovery is intact? I just don't understand enough about Moto devices. I've searched and searched and can't really find the answers myself otherwise I wouldn't post here on XDA like the moron that I am.
I have a hard time accepting that I can't gain root despite not being able to unlock the bootloader. I realize that certain versions are only compatible with Safestrap (I hope I'm understanding that correctly) but, again I don't understand enough of how Moto's work. I've always had Samsung's or HTC's which are SUPER easy to use via ADB, etc.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
t3chn0s1s said:
I really HATE to have to post this and I will do so quite reluctantly....
I am certainly NOT a noob when it comes to Android, rooting, etc. But, the X is my first Moto android phone. I recently purchased mine via CTO with the AT&T Kitkat leak already installed. The person I bought it from claims there is NO WAY to gain root. He said he installed the leak via stock recovery.
The leak I'm running is 140.44.3.ghost_att.ATT.en.US.
Can anyone who's kind enough and well versed in Moto devices explain to me HOW I can how I can gain root on this leak and/or get Safestrap TWRP installed and if not, will I still be able to receive OTA updates being that the bootloader is locked and the stock recovery is intact? I just don't understand enough about Moto devices. I've searched and searched and can't really find the answers myself otherwise I wouldn't post here on XDA like the moron that I am.
I have a hard time accepting that I can't gain root despite not being able to unlock the bootloader. I realize that certain versions are only compatible with Safestrap (I hope I'm understanding that correctly) but, again I don't understand enough of how Moto's work. I've always had Samsung's or HTC's which are SUPER easy to use via ADB, etc.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you read this thread? It should give you a headstart if you haven't.
RagnaParadise said:
Have you read this thread? It should give you a headstart if you haven't.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks Ragna... I haven't. I appreciate the help greatly. Moto's are so different from anything I'm used to and being that I am not starting out from a stock position makes it even more confusing.
Sent from my Nexus 5
t3chn0s1s said:
Thanks Ragna... I haven't. I appreciate the help greatly. Moto's are so different from anything I'm used to and being that I am not starting out from a stock position makes it even more confusing.
Sent from my Nexus 5
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You might want to check out whether your phone is bootloader unlockable. I think you should be able to flash 4.4 on it completely soon, I would suggest holding out until then.
By the way, welcome to the Moto X camp.
Sent from my Moto X using Tapatalk
RagnaParadise said:
You might want to check out whether your phone is bootloader unlockable. I think you should be able to flash 4.4 on it completely soon, I would suggest holding out until then.
By the way, welcome to the Moto X camp.
Sent from my Moto X using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If he has an att moto x then it has a locked bootloader.
t3chn0s1s said:
Thanks Ragna... I haven't. I appreciate the help greatly. Moto's are so different from anything I'm used to and being that I am not starting out from a stock position makes it even more confusing.
Sent from my Nexus 5
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To get back to stock all you need to do is download the 4.2.2 stock firmware images and then use rsdlite to install them... Assuming you have adb anyway configured, it only takes a few minutes.
From there you can do a fresh install of the 4.4 ota or take the steps to get 4.4 ota with root.
AT&T Moto X rocking rooted 4.4
theraffman said:
If he has an att moto x then it has a locked bootloader.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wasn't certain because it was flashed over. I'm running on a Verizon ROM and frankly I wouldn't have known it was a Latin America version if I got it like that. So... Oh well. I suppose the probability that it is an AT&T version is much higher. In that case, OP's SOL for a bootloader unlock. Lol
Sent from my Moto X using Tapatalk
theraffman said:
If he has an att moto x then it has a locked bootloader.
To get back to stock all you need to do is download the 4.2.2 stock firmware images and then use rsdlite to install them... Assuming you have adb anyway configured, it only takes a few minutes.
From there you can do a fresh install of the 4.4 ota or take the steps to get 4.4 ota with root.
AT&T Moto X rocking rooted 4.4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm just reading your post now but, this is exactly what I did... I just used RDS Lite to return to stock 4.2.2 and then OTA'd to 4.4 and now I'm gonna use jcase's exploit to gain root. THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE INFO GUYS!
theraffman said:
If he has an att moto x then it has a locked bootloader.
To get back to stock all you need to do is download the 4.2.2 stock firmware images and then use rsdlite to install them... Assuming you have adb anyway configured, it only takes a few minutes.
From there you can do a fresh install of the 4.4 ota or take the steps to get 4.4 ota with root.
AT&T Moto X rocking rooted 4.4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
RagnaParadise said:
You might want to check out whether your phone is bootloader unlockable. I think you should be able to flash 4.4 on it completely soon, I would suggest holding out until then.
By the way, welcome to the Moto X camp.
Sent from my Moto X using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks Ragna. I appreciate the info and being the "welcome wagon", LOL. Yeah - I'm obviously on the AT&T version (not a Dev Edition) so my BL is unlockable which - is complete bulls**t. I don't get why Moto has to pull this crap or why AT&T gives a rats ass what we do with our phones.
I was able to root my Verizon on 4.4 Just take your time and read thoroughly.
It's sort of a rough set of instructions not for the faint of heart.
SYNSYNACKACK said:
I was able to root my Verizon on 4.4 Just take your time and read thoroughly.
It's sort of a rough set of instructions not for the faint of heart.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea... So I've read. Telnet is SO old school... Was kinda surprised to see that as part of the process. I haven't yet taken the plunge but will probably eventually go for it. Just a little confused since I'm already on stock 4.4 so I'm not sure if I should start at step 1 or what. Oh well... I'll figure it out. Thanks for the suggestions.
Sent from my Nexus 5
So I really miss rooting and modding my phones so I was thinking about do that Chinese method of unlocking my verizon wireless moto x. I just have a couple questions if anyone could answer I'd appreciate it. I can't find much info about 4.4.2 for the verizon moto x because before this unlock discovery, it wasn't possible
1. Once I unlock, is rooting just a simple adb command away?
2. Will I still be able receive android updates via OTA from verizon in the future? Assuming I remain on stock rom and don't flash a rom.
3. My main goal would to be able to tether. So is there a xposed mod to enable tethering on stock rom?
I've only seen this info for DE Moto Xs' and outdated info so I just want to be as updated as possible before I decide to do this.
tu3218 said:
So I really miss rooting and modding my phones so I was thinking about do that Chinese method of unlocking my verizon wireless moto x. I just have a couple questions if anyone could answer I'd appreciate it. I can't find much info about 4.4.2 for the verizon moto x because before this unlock discovery, it wasn't possible
1. Once I unlock, is rooting just a simple adb command away?
2. Will I still be able receive android updates via OTA from verizon in the future? Assuming I remain on stock rom and don't flash a rom.
3. My main goal would to be able to tether. So is there a xposed mod to enable tethering on stock rom?
I've only seen this info for DE Moto Xs' and outdated info so I just want to be as updated as possible before I decide to do this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. after you unlock the bootloader Rooting is as easy as installed TWRP or CWM then flashing SuperSU flashable sip and your rooted.
2. yes you will still get OTA updates. but in order to use the OTA update you will have to reflash the stock recovery. then take the update and reflash TWRP or CWM and SuperSU and your rooted again.
3.yea there is
hope this answered all your questions.
^^ this
Also, with an unlocked bootloader....you now have a phone that is no different than a dev edition. Aside from your warranty.
There's nothing else special about the dev edition. You keep your warranty on a DE.....that's where its specialness ends.
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
dray_jr said:
1. after you unlock the bootloader Rooting is as easy as installed TWRP or CWM then flashing SuperSU flashable sip and your rooted.
2. yes you will still get OTA updates. but in order to use the OTA update you will have to reflash the stock recovery. then take the update and reflash TWRP or CWM and SuperSU and your rooted again.
3.yea there is
hope this answered all your questions.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah thanks a lot! My plan would be to just run stock software but just add the tethering xposed module. But my main concern was receiving future OTAs so it's good to know that I still can. Is it pretty safe to root/unlock this phone? My galaxy nexus was a breeze(obviously being a nexus), but like my S3, there was no flashing back to stock recovery, taking OTA, an than flashing CWM again. At least it wasn't as easy as you described lol I think because there was always concern about whether the update removed ability to root access. Is that possible with this phone or with the unlocking of the bootloader, does that take that variable out? Thanks again. Oh yeah last question, once I'm unlocked, can I lock it back up again and go back to completely stock if I wanted to for some reason? Or is it a done deal.
tu3218 said:
Yeah thanks a lot! My plan would be to just run stock software but just add the tethering xposed module. But my main concern was receiving future OTAs so it's good to know that I still can. Is it pretty safe to root/unlock this phone? My galaxy nexus was a breeze(obviously being a nexus), but like my S3, there was no flashing back to stock recovery, taking OTA, an than flashing CWM again. At least it wasn't as easy as you described lol I think because there was always concern about whether the update removed ability to root access. Is that possible with this phone or with the unlocking of the bootloader, does that take that variable out? Thanks again. Oh yeah last question, once I'm unlocked, can I lock it back up again and go back to completely stock if I wanted to for some reason? Or is it a done deal.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the unlocking the bootloader process is kind of a pain but not too bad.
custom recovery and root are as simple as one command and one flashable zip
as long as you follow directions and read before doing anything then it should be safe. but rooting and modifying your phone is never %100 save.
when you unlock your bootloader you will always be able to root your phone no matter what android version your on. but it is always possible that they make some crazy change and we have issues.
once unlocked you can relock with with "fastboot oem lock" but that stupid warning msg about you bootloader being unlocked won't go away unless you flash a custom boot screen.
i hope i answered all your questions to your full needs and if you have any more please feel free to ask here or PM me if need be.
Unlocking the bootloader is pretty easy if you have adb setup. Don't forget to backup via helium (download to computer or cloud not local.) since unlocking will delete everything and helium can work without root.
Xposed module is great, less intrusive than flashing roms and you can easily get the tethering, etc.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
i just got my motomaker X that thankfully was still running 4.4,from what i was reading (and correct me if im wrong) i needed to RSD back to 4.2.2 to start the root process? and if i have to go all the way back can i use the safestrap 4.4.2 with the kernel and radio zip straight from 4.2.2?
mr4r4n said:
i just got my motomaker X that thankfully was still running 4.4,from what i was reading (and correct me if im wrong) i needed to RSD back to 4.2.2 to start the root process? and if i have to go all the way back can i use the safestrap 4.4.2 with the kernel and radio zip straight from 4.2.2?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The answer lies within this link!!!
mr4r4n said:
i just got my motomaker X that thankfully was still running 4.4,from what i was reading (and correct me if im wrong) i needed to RSD back to 4.2.2 to start the root process? and if i have to go all the way back can i use the safestrap 4.4.2 with the kernel and radio zip straight from 4.2.2?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well that link is to every guide you would need to get your phone rooted.
but here are a couple question i need you to answer and i can point you in a better direction
1.what Carrier is your device on
2. is your device a Dev Edition or no
answer these questions for me and i will point you to the guide you need to use
here is also some other basic info you may want to know.
if you device is a non Developer edition then you will only be able to root up to 4.4 as of right now the only way to root 4.4.2 is with a device with its bootloader unlocked. the only way to unlock a devices bootloader is for it to be a developer edition or with a carrier that allows the devices bootloader to be unlocked.
hope all this information helps you and i will be waiting for you to answer my questions so i can point you in the right direction.
Its a non developer edition moto maker x VZW , I'm actually had issues with rooting it, but finally got it under 4.2.2 and was also having issues because I was using my work computer, and unfortunately that is the only computer I have access to that works, I saw on the rootzwiki that there is a safestrap version of 4.4.2 and it has the kernel and radio to flash and I was hoping I'd be able to do a jump to that
Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk
I haven't done the RockMyMoto/MotoWpNoMo processes on the locked bootloader X. There were some threads where some had written up the process with their tips and hints inline.. You might want to try and follow one of them if you've had issues. Just be sure to NOT install the 4.4.2 OTA on your phone in the process!!
If you ultimately need help getting to rooted 4.4 w/Safestrap 4.4.2, you'll probably want to have a thread title that is better suited to it.
For rooting you'll usually get pointed to one of the many threads on rooting via SlapMyMoto, but for safestrap with 4.4.2, I've only seen posts/links back to rootzwiki.com, so you might want to check over there.
@mr4r4n @dray_jr The link is to the guide that shows how to get to 4.2.2 way more than just rooting in that post. Then after you get there you would need follow @KidJoe advice.
as of right now you cant root 4.4.2 on a locked bootloader device. so if you want to keep root you will have to stay at 4.4
I managed to install a safe strap version of 4.4.2 and kernel/ radio files so far without having to have had gone through 4.4 only issue is getting busy box going
Sent from my HTC Droid DNA using Tapatalk
mr4r4n said:
I managed to install a safe strap version of 4.4.2 and kernel/ radio files so far without having to have had gone through 4.4 only issue is getting busy box going
Sent from my HTC Droid DNA using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But on 4.4.2 you will have write protection enabled....so if you hard reboot or power down, all changes you made will be gone.
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
Even the safe strapped version ?
Sent from my HTC Droid DNA using Tapatalk
Im not 100 percent up to date on all moto happenings, since giving it to my wife....but unless something has changed, there is no fully working root on 4.4.2. Only root with write protection enabled. So if you do a normal reboot...or it powers off....any root changes have to be done again, as they are all wiped.
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
kj2112 said:
But on 4.4.2 you will have write protection enabled....so if you hard reboot or power down, all changes you made will be gone.
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think that is the case with 4.4.2 safestrap running on a 4.4 device.
I thought so as well especially considering I did not come from 4.4 when installing 4.4.2 lol
Sent from my HTC Droid DNA using Tapatalk
mr4r4n said:
I thought so as well especially considering I did not come from 4.4 when installing 4.4.2 lol
Sent from my HTC Droid DNA using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Like I said earlier though... most of the safestrap stuff is happening/being talked about over on Rootzwiki.com so for the SS stuff, you'll probably want to stop over there
KidJoe said:
I don't think that is the case with 4.4.2 safestrap running on a 4.4 device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah...im not a safestrap expert. Lol
If I accidentally bought a phone I couldn't lock, I'd have sold it or returned it the minute I found out....and shelled out more for one I could unlock. ?
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
I'm working on a script for the boot loader key, so it will happen believe you me, I just want working root in the mean time as since android 2.0 on the og droid I've been rooted, lol
Sent from my HTC Droid DNA using Tapatalk
mr4r4n said:
I'm working on a script for the boot loader key, so it will happen believe you me, I just want working root in the mean time as since android 2.0 on the og droid I've been rooted, lol
Sent from my HTC Droid DNA using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm sure many have tried unlocking the bootloader to claim the $1200 bounty....and died trying....but I wish you luck. ?
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
kj2112 said:
Im not 100 percent up to date on all moto happenings, since giving it to my wife....but unless something has changed, there is no fully working root on 4.4.2. Only root with write protection enabled. So if you do a normal reboot...or it powers off....any root changes have to be done again, as they are all wiped.
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi, I keep seeing references to being able to get root with write protection enabled. That would at least be better than no root at all for some things, right? And yet I can't find info on how to get to that point. Links, advice, search keywords? I've perused the massive reference guides looking for more concrete info and I may just have missed the obvious. Any help would be much appreciated.
EDIT: Did some more reading, feel like I may have found the disappointing confirmation that root isn't possible on 4.4.2. Clarification: If you managed to root before 4.4.2, you can retain root and upgrade to 4.4.2 with SafeStrap, but you won't be able to disable write protection, so you lose any changes you have made invoking superuser privileges after a soft reset of the device. If you didn't have root before, and you can't unlock the bootloader now, you're completely screwed, rootwise. Correct?
Jumnhy said:
Hi, I keep seeing references to being able to get root with write protection enabled. That would at least be better than no root at all for some things, right? And yet I can't find info on how to get to that point. Links, advice, search keywords? I've perused the massive reference guides looking for more concrete info and I may just have missed the obvious. Any help would be much appreciated.
EDIT: Did some more reading, feel like I may have found the disappointing confirmation that root isn't possible on 4.4.2. Clarification: If you managed to root before 4.4.2, you can retain root and upgrade to 4.4.2 with SafeStrap, but you won't be able to disable write protection, so you lose any changes you have made invoking superuser privileges after a soft reset of the device. If you didn't have root before, and you can't unlock the bootloader now, you're completely screwed, rootwise. Correct?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It seems there's a couple ROMs now that may allow you root with write protection disabled on 4.4.2....IF you're still on 4.2.2 or 4.4. They are in development section, and there's a thread about it in general I think.
But if you're already on 4.4.2, no, you're out of luck. For now anyway. You can't downgrade 4.4.2 to do the process.
Q&A for [ROOT][PURE EDITION][LOLLIPOP] Root Moto X 2014 on Android 5.0 Lollipop
Some developers prefer that questions remain separate from their main development thread to help keep things organized. Placing your question within this thread will increase its chances of being answered by a member of the community or by the developer.
Before posting, please use the forum search and read through the discussion thread for [ROOT][PURE EDITION][LOLLIPOP] Root Moto X 2014 on Android 5.0 Lollipop. If you can't find an answer, post it here, being sure to give as much information as possible (firmware version, steps to reproduce, logcat if available) so that you can get help.
Thanks for understanding and for helping to keep XDA neat and tidy!
CF root with ATT branded XT1097
Does anyone know if the new CF root method that came out today will work with ATT branded XT 1097? Since we are not able to unlock bootloader directly from Motorola?
Thanks!
Links OFF
I'm new here, I'm not sure I'm doing this procedure is correct, but I come humbly to know if someone could provide some alternative link in order that the post of the early links are down? Now, thank you !!!
xt1097
Please can upload the file " CF-Auto-Root-victara-victararetbr-xt1097.zip " the site is off , thanks
Moto X gen 2 XT1092 rooting
How to root Moto x gen 2 XT1092
Moto X BL discrepancy
I have a Mot X (2014) and after multiple attempts to unlock the BL, I'm stumped. It's a VZW and everytime I input the code string on Moto's site they inform me that the phone is ineligible for BL unlocking.
UrCellularSolutions said:
I have a Mot X (2014) and after multiple attempts to unlock the BL, I'm stumped. It's a VZW and everytime I input the code string on Moto's site they inform me that the phone is ineligible for BL unlocking.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do not think that VZW allows the BL unlock same with ATT.
Sent from my XT1095 using Tapatalk
What to use for Verizon xt1096? Is it safe to try both 95 and 97 and see what doesn't fail?
Root for Moto X 2014 XT1096
Does anyone know if there has been an update for rooting the xt1096? I know that the 1095s and the 1097s both have roots available for them but does the 1096? If so where would it be found?
In response to #8, Verizon doesn't let us unlock our bootloaders, and both of the methods (for the 1095 and 1097) require an unlocked bootloader. That means we will need another way to gain root. (Just incase you're wondering, I double checked that those methods won't work by trying to use them on my 1096. Both failed, thus resulting in nothing changing...)
Works on my brazilian xt1097?
if I have a XT1095 rooted on Lollipop, I will get updates? or a I need to reflash the stock boot.img?
if I have a XT1095 rooted on Lollipop, I will get updates? or a I need to reflash the stock boot.img?
rooted on 5.0.1 with cf root + stock recovery. would a factory reset through stock recory be a problem? would I loose root privileges in the process? thanks
jm_chapa said:
if I have a XT1095 rooted on Lollipop, I will get updates? or a I need to reflash the stock boot.img?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You will still get updates, but when you try to flash the update it will fail due to modifications made to the system. If you modded the boot.IMG then you will need to reflash the stock boot.IMG. You will also need to flash the stock system.IMG since it was modified with root access. Once you are completely stock again you can take the update without any issues.
locked hell
I'm in the same boat. I paid full price for what I hoped would be an unlocked phone, but I still got a fully crap-wared phone for use with Verizon. Bootloader is locked, so I'm not sure where that leaves me. I bought this direct from Moto, so not sure how Verizon is still allowed to lock me down.
thank you!
Guys, I have a xt1097 brazilian version. I would like to know if this cf auto root works for me, I'm running android 5.0 with a locked bootloader. It's better unlock bootloader an then use the cf auto root? Or is it better to use cf auto root with the bootloader locked? Does this work with xt1097 running 5.0?
Thank you!
Bye!
4G LTE XT1097 stops to working before this root
I was using normaly, but before do the "Unlock bootloader from motorola website" and before use this CF AUTOROOT on my Android 5.0 Lollipop.
When i try to use 4G LTE now i just have an EMPTY TRIANGLE and noone signal. but When i change back to WCDMA all works fine.
This is all my problem, i thinking to do an flash with oficial Firmware again to see if wil be restore my LTE, my Moto X 2Gen is brasilian XT1097 Retail Carrier Free.
Please someone can helps me???
i had another XT1097 in my Hands but now i need to solve this problem first to proceed to root my other XT1097.
Moto X 2nd Gen 5.0 L Root assistance
I have XT1096 (Verizon Moto X 2nd Gen) w/ Ver. 5.0 and I would like to know if I'm able to Root it at this point or if thats possible
Thanks
Root without Unlocking
Hi I want to root my Moto X 2014 pure edition (off contract), without unlocking the bootloader. Is there a way or some tool to do it.
Also can i unroot my device if in the future
Hello everybody. I'm looking to re-root my moto x. I currently have a Sprint Moto X running Android 4.4.4 Kit Kat. I have my boot loader unlocked and I have prior experience to rooting. I've been looking for a while now and I can't find a thread showing a 4.4.4 root method. Any links or guides would be highly appreciated. Thanks!
If you are bootloader unlocked just flash a recovery in fastboot and then flash the current SU zip from chainfire's website.
Thank you sir. Much appreciated. Didn't know if it was like the old jellybean method but apparently it is. Thanks for the advice
Yep, no problem. It's the same no matter what version you are on.
jonny5449 said:
Thank you sir. Much appreciated. Didn't know if it was like the old jellybean method but apparently it is. Thanks for the advice
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Were you able to get this done? I'm thinking about updating to 4.4.4 but want to have root as well. I'm on the Dev Edition for Verizon.
royrkaup said:
Were you able to get this done? I'm thinking about updating to 4.4.4 but want to have root as well. I'm on the Dev Edition for Verizon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
With a VZW Dev X, just get the bootloader unlock from Moto's site, use it to unlock the bootloader, and you can always root.
Heck, since moto gives out the bootloader for your phone, you could even update, then get/use the unlock code, and root at any time.