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Hi All,
Anyone used one of these before? USB Desktop Battery Charger for Dell Streak Mini 5
grizlore said:
Hi All,
Anyone used one of these before? USB Desktop Battery Charger for Dell Streak Mini 5
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I have seen them on ebay, to me they look like the kind of thing you would use to charge a second battery if you had one.
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Yep it is. Just wondering if anyone had tried it.
Looks like a generic charger which you set the size to fit your phone's battery
I just purchased one. I had to buy it as i am in need of a charging cable (lost mine). If anyone has a spare charging cable i would gladly pay it as long as they will ship it registered mail to canada
in the meantime does anyone know what pins are postive and negative on the battery?
Chargers off Ebay
I got one off Ebay and it is working but it is extremely slow! It is a MyBat brand and you see tons of videos on you tube, but it is taking almost 48 hours to charge it to 100%. Can anyone confirm this 3G brand is any faster? Or can someone who has an Ebay account buy one and list a charger cable lol, I use mine for two to three days then I have to charge it two days. Please help and any input would be greatly appreciated!
gypsydigi said:
I just purchased one. I had to buy it as i am in need of a charging cable (lost mine). If anyone has a spare charging cable i would gladly pay it as long as they will ship it registered mail to canada
in the meantime does anyone know what pins are postive and negative on the battery?
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I would like to know too, which pins are postive(+) and negative(-) on the battery contact?
does any one can help me to do a test on the battery??
thank you vvvvvery much~~~~
Email from seller
Hi guys,
I bought the same charger and asked which one of the two metal prongs is positive and which one is negative and if the seller knows which contact on the battery is positive/negative.
Apparently the charger can automatically switch polarity...
I've also noticed on the label that the charger has 600mA through the USB port and 400mA through the mains. That's why it's really slow I reckon...
Anyway, here's their response:
You can use the charger by following instruction:
Features and Functions Guide of the charger
for Dell Streak
Standard of the electrical
? Electric current of import: 110V-220V 50/60 HZ 0.1A
? Electric potential of battery charger: 4.2V-5.0V
? Electric current of battery charger:400MA
? Electric potential and current of USB charger: 5.0V-5.2V 600MA
Instruction
? The contacts of the charger can move, you can charge many different styles of battery according to the contacts of the battery.
? You also can adjust the length of the charger according to your battery, the maximum length is 2.95 inch, the minimum length is 0.67 inch. But you should do it gently, or the charge will be damaged.
? The battery for Motorola Droid A855 has 4 contacts, you should use the outsider contacts. And the charger can adjust Polarity automatically in order to fit for the polarity of the battery.
? When the charger is working, the light is pink, when the charger finishes charging, the light turns into blue. And the battery can not be charged for a long time, please pay attention to the light.
? The battery should charge the battery for 10-14 hours in the first three times, and later you should charge the battery for more than 8 hours. Then you can activate the capacity of the battery.
? The USB charger can charge your phone with a suitable USB cable. When you use the battery charger and the USB charger at the same time, the charger will let the USB charger first. The light is blue, after the USB charger finishes its charge, the battery charger will work, and the light is pink.
Warning
? Please do not take out the battery when the charger connects to power supply, or, you will hurt yourself, the battery will be damaged.
? Please do not knock down the item on purpose.
? Please do not let the charger be damped or be exposed in the water.
? Please do not drop the item form a high place.
You might want to have a look at this thread as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=850776
Philip said:
You might want to have a look at this thread as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=850776
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Thanks mate. So have you had any success in charging with your charger?
Its slow but it works. Took about 30hours to charge my battery.
Its only 400mA. 1000mA is preference when charging our batteries.
satanix said:
Thanks mate. So have you had any success in charging with your charger?
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Yes, it seems to work fine, although so far I have only used it on a partly charged (~80%) battery.
The charger that I received works off the mains (110-250V at 50 or 60Hz).
It delivers 4.2V at 350mA (+/-50mA) to the battery. However, the battery is under no load, whereas when you charge a battery in situ in the Dell Streak there will be a drain on the battery while it's charging (depending on whether the display/GPS/wifi etc is switched on).
The charger also has a USB output (5.2V at 800mA).
Given the price, I would expect all the voltages and currents to be nominal (although to be fair the build quality is good enough).
Hi I just bought the 3G commerce one the one on ebay but got it at a local chinese/electronic store, the plate that is used to hold the battery against the two pins has to be stretched almost all the way out, feels like it will break the inner spring, probably wont at least I hope so. I have yet to charge my battery with this charger but will do it tonight and see how that goes.
I usually charge my battery with a blackberry desktop charger I had to mod the hell out of it so it could fit the streak battery, and that charger i believe is 4.2v 350ma and charges the battery from 2% to 100% in a little less than 4.5 hours. We use 110v AC for main juice.
When using this "generic" chargers ALWAYS make sure it is a Li-Ion/Poly charger.
You can start a fire if you don't use a proper charger. I will point this out as much as possible
solar charger / dell streak / recharger / battery
why not use a solar charger, i bought one from here ( i am not making an ad, just saying what has worked for me for your sake)
apparently i cant post links yet, just go to gkitshop, look up a 2600mAH solar charger
have a good life
Got it from eBay.
Charges faster in phone...while using!
If battery is around 40% it being be charged overnight.
Anyone else experience this?
could be the amp? maybe below 1 amp? Samsung charger has 2amps om it. check your charger and look for the amp. btw. the lower the amp the better for your battery..
Buy an OEM charger. The Samsung one is $50 from Samsung website but you can get the Asus charger from Google play store for $25. Both are two ampbi believe. Or you can get the 1a for $25 from samsung. Getting OEM directly from an OEM or authorized reseller or a storefront lime Google is key. Getting cheap chargers is gonna bite you in the ass one day or think about it like this. Why keep wasting time buying cheap chargers again and again when you can put up proper money and get quality in one go and have peace of mind for a few years. I even stopped buying chargers from amazon because they're just cheap knockoffs too. Phi hong makes good chargers and power supplies but they are harder to source. Phi hong came with my nexus one andy galaxy nexus OEM Home dock.
Anyways, aside from that part of the reason for slow charging is you probably have an unsafe charger that is not rated what it really is and is made of poor materials. Getting a quality 1a or higher, preferably 2a in this case and your gnote2 should charge @ 1.8a. In other words, you can charge from zero to full in ~2-2.5 hours. Or from partially full to 100% in less than 2 easily.
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Unless I am mistaken, OP is referring to battery chargers, not usb chargers. That's how I charge mine, too. I have spare batteries, and they all get charged directly. When my battery is low, I just swap. I hate having my phone attached to a cord, even at night.
Yes, all the battery chargers I've had for every device (including this one) have been lower amp than the usb chargers supplied with the phone. It is especially slow for this huge battery for the Note 2. While it bothers me in concept, it's never actually been an issue for me, so I haven't done anything about it. I don't know if higher amp battery chargers are available, but I don't feel like spending extra money on one.
As far as battery health goes, charging at a lower amperage certainly isn't hurting the battery. If anything, it's actually better for it.
Yes...charging just the battery with wall charger.
@ 40% it will not be charged at 6am when I wake!!!
Are there better wall chargers?
Why do you hate having your phone attached to a Cord overnight. I heard that's fine and do it every night.!
dan_tm said:
Unless I am mistaken, OP is referring to battery chargers, not usb chargers. That's how I charge mine, too. I have spare batteries, and they all get charged directly. When my battery is low, I just swap. I hate having my phone attached to a cord, even at night.
Yes, all the battery chargers I've had for every device (including this one) have been lower amp than the usb chargers supplied with the phone. It is especially slow for this huge battery for the Note 2. While it bothers me in concept, it's never actually been an issue for me, so I haven't done anything about it. I don't know if higher amp battery chargers are available, but I don't feel like spending extra money on one.
As far as battery health goes, charging at a lower amperage certainly isn't hurting the battery. If anything, it's actually better for it.
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rockky said:
Why do you hate having your phone attached to a Cord overnight. I heard that's fine and do it every night.!
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Not for the phone, for me. It just bothers me having a wireless device locked to a wall. There's no reason for it. And I frequently get up in the night for various reasons (kids, work, insomnia, etc), and it bugs me unplugging in the middle of a charge cycle.
Incidentally, a non-removable battery was a deal breaker, and one of the reasons I didn't get a Nexus 4. I got used to never plugging in my last phone, and I don't want to go back. It was torture the first week or two with the N2 before my spare batteries arrived.
The charger should have its output printed on it, I've had a look at the pics on ebay and the first two I found that I could read were 500mA and 350mA, the original charger is 2A or 2000mA. Samsung make there own battery charger http://www.samsung.com/au/consumer/...es/EB-H1J9VNEGSTD?subsubtype=other-multimedia the output is 1.7A so much closer to the original usb charger.
I'd be worried about my back cover getting loose doing what you do. I had three batteries for my old phone, but I did not swap them on a daily basis, just when travelling or away from power for an extended time. I've ordered some wireless chargers so I can have one by my bed and another downstairs. I know they only output 500mA too, but for an overnight charge thats fine for me. I dont think there is any issue with interrupting the charge cycle, the two main enemies of lithium batteries are heat and being totally/almost discharged on a regular basis. Its best to keep them topped up.
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The charger should have its output printed on it, I've had a look at the pics on ebay and the first two I found that I could read were 500mA and 350mA, the original charger is 2A or 2000mA. Samsung make there own battery charger http://www.samsung.com/au/consumer/...es/EB-H1J9VNEGSTD?subsubtype=other-multimedia the output is 1.7A so much closer to the original usb charger.
I'd be worried about my back cover getting loose doing what you do. I had three batteries for my old phone, but I did not swap them on a daily basis, just when travelling or away from power for an extended time. I've ordered some wireless chargers so I can have one by my bed and another downstairs. I know they only output 500mA too, but for an overnight charge thats fine for me. I dont think there is any issue with interrupting the charge cycle, the two main enemies of lithium batteries are heat and being totally/almost discharged on a regular basis. Its best to keep them topped up.
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It looks like the OEM battery charger is available on ebay for around $15. That's good to know in case mine ever crap out on me. These cheapies that I get tend to.
As far as the back cover getting loose, after 3 months, it is a little bit looser than when it was new. 1.5 years with my G2x didn't loosen it at all, but the build quality on that thing was fantastic. I keep this in a case anyway, so it being a little looser goes unnoticed. If it gets bad, back cover replacements are cheap.
If one of the devs can make the kernel capable of fastcharge, it would not take but half the time to charge. Yank who is working with Faux on his kernel, helped make the kernel fast charge capable.
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UnixSlayer said:
If one of the devs can make the kernel capable of fastcharge, it would not take but half the time to charge. Yank who is working with Faux on his kernel, helped make the kernel fast charge capable.
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But what is the point of having it charge fast, when all it is is going to drain faster?
I charge mine overnight with a charger rated at 750mah I believe and it last me a whole day. As oppose to using a 2.1 am charger I have, where the battery percentage would start dropping by the first hour.
Correct me if I am wrong here, but this is what I've notice with my last few phones.
The Perseus kernel with stweaks has the ability to change the charging parameters.
With it overclocked/undervolted I am getting better life than I did on stock.
Not for sure what you mean as it depleting the charge faster on a higher amperage charger. Kind of sounds like you may have had failing batteries, etc.
There seem to be a few misunderstandings here regarding batteries and chargers.
1) The charge rate, when the battery is in the phone, is controlled BY the phone. The charger itself just supplies regulated power to the phone. How much current is put into the battery at any given time is up to the phone, which is why kernels can do things like fast charge, it's controlled by the kernel. Now, the reason the battery charges faster when using the stock charger vs. something lower current or a computer is simple. The phone can detect what it's connected to within some limitations. It sounds like our phone can also sense the incoming voltage levels and back off if the supply becomes unstable.
2) Using the stock 2A charger is "harder" on the battery than a lower current charger. Not true, at least not within any margin of error you will be able to detect without specialized equipment. Lipo batteries are generally built to charge/discharge at 1C. C in this case stands for capacity. So our 3100mah batteries can charge at 3.1Amp and be within safety margin. So the 2Amp charger the phone comes with is perfectly fine for the battery. Without seeing a datasheet for the battery from Samsung, that's a good guess. And again, the phone controls the charge current based on a number of parameters. You could connect the phone to a 5V supply capable of 100Amp and it will still only use what it needs.
3) The percentage readout on the phone screen is a GUESS. Don't pay it too much attention. For this same reason, evaluating 3rd party batteries based on phone runtime etc is not useful. To validate the battery capacity with any accuracy requires a test setup discharging the battery through a known load and measuring how long it takes to get to a cutoff voltage. I've done some of these tests myself on stock and 3rd party batteries. In general, the OEM batteries are always at or above spec, the 3rd party battery manufacturers lie. Often by upward of 20%. Even the high $ batteries. Keep that in mind when shopping if you want extras or extended batteries.
4) Interrupting the charge cycle is bad. Nope. It's fine. On this same line of thought, full cycles ARE bad. Don't do it. Don't think too much about it either though. Just plug it in when convenient. Or set it on the wireless charger if you've installed one. Generally speaking, they actually don't like to be charged to 100% either. Keeping it at 20%-80% is actually best for the longevity of the battery cell itself. In practice, you will probably have a new phone before any of this is actually noticeable.
The OP sounds like they are talking about a stand-alone charger, where the battery is not in the phone. Those will vary wildly in quality and capability, particularly from ebay. They are probably cheap POS devices. Not that that's really a bad thing, just know about it. It's probably a very low charge rate device, perhaps even down to 100ma or so. That would take forever to charge our larger batteries. As for if there is a better one, probably. If Samsung makes one, it will probably charge faster than the phone with the provided charger plug as there would be no load from the phone using power. Of course, it will cost a lot more as well. Look for devices that at least claim they will charge at 2Amp or so. In practice, they will probably be a lot lower, but your chances are improved. Not many people will break out an ammeter and check, after all.
UnixSlayer said:
If one of the devs can make the kernel capable of fastcharge, it would not take but half the time to charge. Yank who is working with Faux on his kernel, helped make the kernel fast charge capable.
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Perseus kernal has fast charging settings.
What ttabbal wrote is mostly correct. But the problem lies within some input voltage protection logic tied to the charger chip of the phone which is extremely (and too much so) sensitive.
rsalan said:
Perseus kernal has fast charging settings.
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Can people stop calling it fast-charge, it's an idiotic term which technically means nothing. While most kernels have some sort of charging speed configuration options, they're all useless in regard to this problem as the current in the end is decided by a different logic. You'll have to disable unstable power detection and that's the only way to make it work and fix the problem, unless you go hunting down high quality cables and chargers.
Personally I also encountered the problem as my stock S3 charger, as many others here have reported, has deteriorated and it would only charge at an effective 300mA. I disabled unstable power detection and now it charges at the full given current limits, without any issues.
rockky said:
Got it from eBay.
Charges faster in phone...while using!
If battery is around 40% it being be charged overnight.
Anyone else experience this?
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You have to make sure it's "2a" charger capacity. It happened to me once. Go to monoprice.com and search for a universal 2a charger... pretty cheap
Found this gem on Amazon, got it today and have been testing it. It works great and has a steady charge when using the device plugged in to the a/c cord or when just charging your phone from it's own battery. It's kind of funny because the battery life is so good on my phone I don't think i will need the ability to charge anywhere with the charging pad unless I go on an extended road trip. Device is very slick tho for being made in china.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CUW64QU/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I'm just curious how long it's taking people to charge their devices using a QC 3.0 charger. It seems slow for me. I went from 10% to 20% in about twenty minutes. Other QC devices I've had charge much faster than this. Is this normal? It's an Anker 3.0 charger and I've tried multiple cables.
Its taking longer than id imagined based on what id seen about QC3 fast enough though and the phone doesn't seem to get warm. This is using the provided Sony charger which the store told me was a quick charge one. I see similar speeds off my Anker in car charger which is QC3 compliant.
Only ever had my Nexus 5X to compare to (which wasn't QC3 just rapid USB charging) and it seems about on par with that id say.
Using the included Sony QC charger and cable, mine charged from 16% to 70% in 50 minutes and then tapered off from 70% to 100% taking ~80 minutes for that.
Is the QC included? Read a review that it was not. Will receive mine next week.
I think it depends on the region; mine came from Expansys, which I think is the Hong Kong version with a type-G plug (UK), and it did. It only came with a corded hands-free headset, though.
Mine arrived Thursday and I charged it to 100% before turning it on. It was at 5% today when I plugged in the charger. It took 2 hours to reach 100% with the phone turned on but not being used. My phone was ordered from eGlobal Central, Hong Kong. Charger has the Type G plug with Type A, non-polarized adapter.
Cheers!
Got it today, and there was no QC in the package. :/ I live in Scandinavia.
There's a toggle in the settings for the Battery Care mode and from what I understand it monitors your charge habits and slows the quick charge time down during times when it thinks you'll leave it plugged in longer. The premise is that it will prolong battery service life. If you're looking for absolute fastest charge times be sure that's toggled off because it's on by default.
My HK market phone also came with the Sony quick charger. Seller included an adapter for US.
I ordered this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/SAMAR-Charge-Charger-PowerPort-Samsung-Black/dp/B075CFKWNQ/ from Ebay with an EU plug.
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I'm just curious how long it's taking people to charge their devices using a QC 3.0 charger. It seems slow for me. I went from 10% to 20% in about twenty minutes. Other QC devices I've had charge much faster than this. Is this normal? It's an Anker 3.0 charger and I've tried multiple cables.
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I bought a Quickcharge3 from Amazon. Works brilliantly, 2% per minute for the first 30 minutes. Slows down quickly after that. As was mentioned above, there is a battery care option that can delliberatly slow down the charge if it feels it's not in the interests of the battery, perhaps that's what's happening when you are charging. Turn if off, restart the phone and then try again.
Edit: make sure you are using the original supplied Sony USB cable when you are testing. USB C leads are notorious at giving charging problems, especially cheap ones.
Any visual clues if fast charging is active? When using the magnetic load connection on the z3c the 'Fast charging' text was visible.
Xperia z1
Using a generic charger my Xperia Z1 have a decent charging speed.
My some apps are open while you charge. They consume a large amount of space and battery.
Hi All
I bought a cheap QI wireless charger on eBay for my Mi 11 Ultra. It was only a few pounds. It comes with a USB cable, but no charger. It has an LED which is red when powered, and turns blue when charging. It's only 10W but I figure if I charge it overnight that's plenty of time to charge a 5Ah battery.
So far, it seems to work OK if the phone is turned on, but not so if it's turned off, which is a bit confusing as when Iay the phone (turned off) ont he charger, the LED goes blue and the phone does the mini-boot to display the battery logo.
When I get some spare time, I'll run my phone down to zero and charge it fully using the charger to see how long it takes.
I'll have a further play and update this as I go. The original link was:
10W Qi Fast Wireless Charger Charging Pad Dock For Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra 11 Pro | eBay
Universal compatibility for all Qi enabled wireless charging devices or devices with Qi receiver/case. 1 x Wireless Charging Pad. Anti-slip silicone mat to secure the smartphones in place. Smart IC design for efficient and stable power transfer.
www.ebay.co.uk
Cheers Steve
I still have the old Qi charger I got with the Xiaomi Mi Mix 3. I think it's 10W, and man it's slow!
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Hi All
I bought a cheap QI wireless charger on eBay for my Mi 11 Ultra. It was only a few pounds. It comes with a USB cable, but no charger. It has an LED which is red when powered, and turns blue when charging. It's only 10W but I figure if I charge it overnight that's plenty of time to charge a 5Ah battery.
So far, it seems to work OK if the phone is turned on, but not so if it's turned off, which is a bit confusing as when Iay the phone (turned off) ont he charger, the LED goes blue and the phone does the mini-boot to display the battery logo.
When I get some spare time, I'll run my phone down to zero and charge it fully using the charger to see how long it takes.
I'll have a further play and update this as I go. The original link was:
10W Qi Fast Wireless Charger Charging Pad Dock For Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra 11 Pro | eBay
Universal compatibility for all Qi enabled wireless charging devices or devices with Qi receiver/case. 1 x Wireless Charging Pad. Anti-slip silicone mat to secure the smartphones in place. Smart IC design for efficient and stable power transfer.
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Cheers Steve
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I got one of those for free with my phone and I only put it on for 10-15 minutes and when I picked up the phone it was hotter than charging with the 67w cable
I haven't used it since in case it damages the battery even faster
Ok so I've had a play with the charger today. From a 1% battery charge,it fully chargers my Mi 11 in 5.5hours. In the days of supercharging, this is fine for me as I sleep 8 hours a night so I can fully charge my phone overnight easily.
I didn't notice any overheating,though. I charged my Ultra with a plastic covering on the back.
Anyway., 'cos I don't get out much, here's a graph:
Cheers
Steve
Just a bit more on this. The phone didn't charge to 100% overnight as I slept. I think this is because the adaptor in my bedroom isn't powerful enough. According to the charger, it's 5V at 2A so 5x2 = 10W I thought should be OK but it isn't.
Maybe this charger is underrated but in any case, it works jsut fine and charges up to 100% on my Xiaomi 67W charger so I'll use that instead.
Cheers Steve
Hi @empty.cad well, that's a posh charger! Where did you buy it from and how much was it?
Just to finish off my short novel on the cheap charger, I used the Xiaomi charger last night with the phone case on and it charged to 100%, so job done
OK I'll stop banging on now as my life is complete
Cheers
Steve
Hi @picitup !
I would like to ask you about your charging experience. Some people reported that using quick 67w charger makes their battery to drain quicker during the normal phone usage, where charging it slower make it to drain slower. Did you noticed any difference in this matter?
What is your screen on time afyer charging the phone with 10w wireless charger?
I am asking all this because I plan to do the same as you - to charge the phone slowly overnight with the wireless charger.
Hi @misiek735
I'm not sure of the answer, but I'll discharge my phone and charge it up tonight using the cheapy wireless charger and run the Norwegian Train Ride video from youtube and time it. First time I charged it with the 67W charger and did this test, it ran for 11.5 hours which I thought was quite good. So now all we need are the wireless figures. I'll post up tomorrow after ZZZzzzz
Interestingly, it seems to work well with my daughter's and her boyfriends Iphone.
Watch this space.....
I just had a thought. I installed an app called Plug Sound here:
Plug Sound - Apps on Google Play
Enjoy millions of the latest Android apps, games, music, movies, TV, books, magazines & more. Anytime, anywhere, across your devices.
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It plays a custom sound when you plug your charger in and another when you unplug it. Pleasingly, it also works with wireless charging which is handy for positioning the phone on the charger, ensuring it's in the right place.
So this is $1500 phone and Chinese saved $10 on charger?
This is disturbing.
kaczyrezym said:
So this is $1500 phone and Chinese saved $10 on charger?
This is disturbing.
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No, the 67w phone charger in china is optionally free and the phone costs under $1000, probably considerably less unless you get the 12/512 model everyone likes
There is no other waterproof phone with a SD 888 ,12gb ram 512gb storage, 5k battery and this screen quality and a 67w charger for the price
Try harder
It's true. I'm a fully qualified tight wad. Must go as the nice young men in their clean white coats are at the door.
On that note, I didn't pay $1500, I paid $1,000 on Giztop for 12M/512G but they are going for £1400.00 ($1983.00) on fleabay UK with "no returns" lol.
A short delay on this. I discharged the phone yesterday using a 12 hour youtube vid and got it down to 2%.
It didn't charge overnight as I changed the USB cable. I guess for a couple of amps, you need a decent cable, not the cheapy 5 strand ones.
It's now charging up wierelessly using a short USB cable which seems to be working fine so there will be a delay of a day on the results, but don't worry I'm on it
i am sorry if i upset you, please enjoy your phone.
just to clarify $1000 on giztop, same giztop from other thread that does not ship yes?
and other thing while i still may ... some complain newer miui updates has a lot bugs for example gestures stopped working ... just saying .... did they eventually figure how to create larger notes?
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sorry double post
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Hi I'm not uspet. Here in the UK we say 'I'm too old and ugly to get upset' so no worries. Yes I bought from giztop a month or so ago and they did ship it out and it arrived in about a week. I just looked at giztop and according to their page, the phone is in stock.
I don't use gestures - something I have to learn about. I've noticed some 'bits and pieces' of irritation when updating - some of my permissions change. For example, I use Chomp SMS and gave it permission to read SMS, but after the update it didn't have that permission so I just re-enabled it again nd it works fine.
This all may be academic soon, though as I checked mi unlock yesterday and had 56 hours left to unlock so should be Thursday for me, then I'll flash the EU rom.
Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean by large notes?
Back to the charger. Sorry for the delay in doing the test. I got a new printer and had a play with it yesyerdayh. I'll do my best to post up tomorrow.
Cheers
Steve