GSMARENA Smartphone Champions League, Matchday 2 - Nexus 4 General

Gsmarena is conducting a smartphone comparison war and to my surprise our Nexus 4 is compared with a Lumia 520, whats disappointing is that our N4 is losing in terms votes to lumia,Come on people vote.I really dont want to see the nexus loose to a lumia
links: http://blog.gsmarena.com/smartphones-champions-league-matchday-2/

Unacceptable.. Voted
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hell yeahh!!
and what a dumb way to compare a nexus

manu4204 said:
Gsmarena is conducting a smartphone comparison war and to my surprise our Nexus 4 is compared with a Lumia 520, whats disappointing is that our N4 is losing in terms votes to lumia,Come on people vote.I really dont want to see the nexus loose to a lumia
links: http://blog.gsmarena.com/smartphones-champions-league-matchday-2/
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lol , this is really dumb
if not considering camera , nexus 4 is better than any lumia (920 , 1050 etc) out there ,except 1520...
lol they are comparing 2012 google's flagship phone to a entry level nokia lol...

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Shubhamqweasd said:
lol , this is really dumb
if not considering camera , nexus 4 is better than any lumia (920 , 1050 etc) out there ,except 1520...
lol they are comparing 2012 google's flagship phone to a entry level nokia lol...
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I'd say the n4 is better than the 1520 maybe not in hardware but the software more than makes up for it, I couldn't use Windows Phone for more than a week before scratching my eyes out
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Wow ridiculous... Voted!
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voted.....Our nexus is a monster in front of that nokia's kid...:laugh:

I guess there is a significant rise in stubborn people who claim that windows phones are better than android and ios at the moment(it may get better in the future but certainly not now).I got a friend who had an htc sensation and was stuck with sense and ics,the phone still lags like hell and no matter what he still thinks all android phones lags like the htc and is too stubborn to accept the fact that he choose poorly.

Nexus 4 is still a flagship phone, despite the release of Nexus 5. It's just one year old, for crying out loud. It packs better configurations and way better day-to-day performance than most of other available phones. I do not understand how it is compared against Lumia 520. Also, I noticed it is getting lower votes than the Lumia, how come?

manu4204 said:
I guess there is a significant rise in stubborn people who claim that windows phones are better than android and ios at the moment(it may get better in the future but certainly not now).I got a friend who had an htc sensation and was stuck with sense and ics,the phone still lags like hell and no matter what he still thinks all android phones lags like the htc and is too stubborn to accept the fact that he choose poorly.
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Man I had that phone too, and without customizations it DID suck. Not everyone is savvy enough to root their phone (read: 90% of users) to make it more usable. But that phone was a POS until I rooted it. Before Jelly Bean I wouldn't have recommended an Android to anyone, let alone ICS. It was bad enough that I can't blame some people for having a tarnished image now (literally caused so much frustration).
Having said that, I'd recommend a Nexus 4 to anyone and their mother. It's user friendly and lightning fast with way more options than a Windows Phone. Although a Windows phone may still be smoother...
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Waiting for my car in the repair shop, bored, voted like 10 times :/

manu4204 said:
I got a friend who had an htc sensation and was stuck with sense and ics,the phone still lags like hell and no matter what he still thinks all android phones lags like the htc and is too stubborn to accept the fact that he choose poorly.
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I have a lot of friends that think this way. Here in Brazil ppl buy those crap and old samsung phones like the S duos for the same amount of money they could buy Moto g then starts to blame android. Here on brazil ppl just dont realize there are life outside samsung world. When I got my N4 my girlfriend got OG and my best friend got S3. All 3 for the same money. No matter what I cant convince him that S3 for the same money was a poor choice. Now, after 4 months his S3 lags like hell, he is afraid to root and use lag fix. 4.3 and its trim support didnt arrive yet and he regrets every time he see me playing games or trying a new feature in android.
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prog19 said:
I have a lot of friends that think this way. Here in Brazil ppl buy those crap and old samsung phones like the S duos for the same amount of money they could buy Moto g then starts to blame android. Here on brazil ppl just dont realize there are life outside samsung world. When I got my N4 my girlfriend got OG and my best friend got S3. All 3 for the same money. No matter what I cant convince him that S3 for the same money was a poor choice. Now, after 4 months his S3 lags like hell, he is afraid to root and use lag fix. 4.3 and its trim support didnt arrive yet and he regrets every time he see me playing games or trying a new feature in android.
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I guess its the same everywhere!
Even in India
They buy s3 and after it starts lagging, they say android is a laggy os!
This really pisses me off!
However it's only human psychology that if something is costly, it must be good!
Maybe that's why a company like apple makes an i5s for 150$ and sells it for 700$!
They rob people and people love it!

danishdhanshe said:
I guess its the same everywhere!
Even in India
They buy s3 and after it starts lagging, they say android is a laggy os!
This really pisses me off!
However it's only human psychology that if something is costly, it must be good!
Maybe that's why a company like apple makes an i5s for 150$ and sells it for 700$!
They rob people and people love it!
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prog19 said:
I have a lot of friends that think this way. Here in Brazil ppl buy those crap and old samsung phones like the S duos for the same amount of money they could buy Moto g then starts to blame android. Here on brazil ppl just dont realize there are life outside samsung world. When I got my N4 my girlfriend got OG and my best friend got S3. All 3 for the same money. No matter what I cant convince him that S3 for the same money was a poor choice. Now, after 4 months his S3 lags like hell, he is afraid to root and use lag fix. 4.3 and its trim support didnt arrive yet and he regrets every time he see me playing games or trying a new feature in android.
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monkor said:
Man I had that phone too, and without customizations it DID suck. Not everyone is savvy enough to root their phone (read: 90% of users) to make it more usable. But that phone was a POS until I rooted it. Before Jelly Bean I wouldn't have recommended an Android to anyone, let alone ICS. It was bad enough that I can't blame some people for having a tarnished image now (literally caused so much frustration).
Having said that, I'd recommend a Nexus 4 to anyone and their mother. It's user friendly and lightning fast with way more options than a Windows Phone. Although a Windows phone may still be smoother...
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Exactly there are some people who have never heard of stock android and blames google when their htc and samsungs lag

hafizimtiaz said:
Nexus 4 is still a flagship phone, despite the release of Nexus 5. It's just one year old, for crying out loud. It packs better configurations and way better day-to-day performance than most of other available phones. I do not understand how it is compared against Lumia 520. Also, I noticed it is getting lower votes than the Lumia, how come?
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see the comments bro,there a lot of wp fan boys in gsmarena,always criticising android and thinks windows phone is superior to android,its quite funny actually when the try to cover up all the downsides of wp,some of them responded to " lack of apps in the windows store problem" saying we dont need any apps then why the hell do they buy a smartphone

results are out
"The Nokia Lumia 520 found itself trailing at the start, but the most popular WP handset gathered enough support in the latter stages of the game to turn it around"
lost by 646 votes

LoL, what is lumia 520?

danishdhanshe said:
I guess its the same everywhere!
Even in India
They buy s3 and after it starts lagging, they say android is a laggy os!
This really pisses me off!
However it's only human psychology that if something is costly, it must be good!
Maybe that's why a company like apple makes an i5s for 150$ and sells it for 700$!
They rob people and people love it!
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here in brazil is way poor. moto g is 450$ here .
also here samsung make lots and lots of exclusive entry devices with old armv6 processor, and so ppl blame android for hte lag.
when i took my nexus 4 and compared with my friend´s iphone 4 and when ppl saw that n4 was more faster. they were like "omg omg android is not lag, omg omg omg"

Wtf!! Tech writers and so called tech experts on tech sites are to blame here, they have no knowledge, use same techniques to compare, most of their views are on how a device looks, could give thousand examples of this
And once a phone is 6 months old, it becomes a dinosaur for them, they often compare it with crap.
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monkor said:
Man I had that phone too, and without customizations it DID suck. Not everyone is savvy enough to root their phone (read: 90% of users) to make it more usable. But that phone was a POS until I rooted it. Before Jelly Bean I wouldn't have recommended an Android to anyone, let alone ICS. It was bad enough that I can't blame some people for having a tarnished image now (literally caused so much frustration).
Having said that, I'd recommend a Nexus 4 to anyone and their mother. It's user friendly and lightning fast with way more options than a Windows Phone. Although a Windows phone may still be smoother...
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Just as a curiosity I would like to know, what exactly sucked for the unrooted version? And what customisations did u want that required root? And windows phones market share speaks for itself how **** it is
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Like I said iPhone 5 is repackaged iPhone 4

How many people disappointed with the new iPhone? Are people actually going to buy a repackaged iPhone 4? Yes, because there are always sheep.
Apple is really great at repackaging their products, iPhone 3g > iphone 3gs.
I would stick with an iPhone 4 if.I already have it. Only thing great about this whole ordeal is that the previous versions are way cheap but a bit outdated.
Nexus Prime it is!
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Nexus prime DEF....I lold with the 4S.
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Can i just use this thread to get a bit of fanboism out.
They changed the camera and all hell will break lose on release day. And the price.. good god. For me in the UK i won't get use of 4G until 2013, not that i was ever going to buy this piece of junk. Makes me love my Desire HD even more.
/fanboy
Ok back to normal.
What happened with all the rumors of larger screen, teardrop design, supposedly thinner? Maybe in the works for next year.
If people actually line up for this and wait for hours it has to be the end of our civilization as we now it.
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That was an Epic FAIL for apple. And when I say Epic, I mean Epic Touch already has all those features hardware wise! Nothing new frrom Apple but a repackaged iPhone 4 with the same hardware already found in other phones. In fact, they are already behind with the Nexus Prime rumored to have the new Exynos 1.5Ghz Dual Core in it, so by the time the iPhone 5 comes out, they will already be behind again.
Copying BBM, Android Notifications, Google's cloud, 1080P video recording, and hardware found in other phones already, I was totally disappointed.
Instead of being the innovators, it looks like Apple is now playing catch up.
wendellc said:
How many people disappointed with the new iPhone? Are people actually going to buy a repackaged iPhone 4? Yes, because there are always sheep.
Apple is really great at repackaging their products, iPhone 3g > iphone 3gs.
I would stick with an iPhone 4 if.I already have it. Only thing great about this whole ordeal is that the previous versions are way cheap but a bit outdated.
Nexus Prime it is!
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I have an iPhone 4 and knew over a month ago that the new iPhone would be very much the same as the current one but with upgraded specs and internal hardware.
Nevertheless, I'm a bit glad because I won't feel compelled to exchange my iPhone 4 for the 4S. I will, however, enjoy using iOS5 on my iPhone 4 on Oct 12.
the major difference is just a faster CPU
and now it can do both CDMA + GSM in one phone
everything else is not even worth mentioning as they are really seasoning on top of the meat
their marketing team is pretty good at what they do, i'm assuming the 5 will be along these new specs but with LTE chips, NFC and maybe a little something else?...
christmas time?
Here is what the 4S provides:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/04/iphone-4s-vs-iphone-4-the-tale-of-the-tape/
Siri is really cool, and the upgraded CPU and GPU is nice too, but it looks like i'm going to stick with Android and buy the Galaxy Humongous aka the Galaxy Note.
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Here is what the 4S provides:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/04/iphone-4s-vs-iphone-4-the-tale-of-the-tape/
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LOL, and people are going nuts over this, what a shame.
I feel really bad for the Hard Candy company who produced over 50k hard cases for 'iphone 5' 4.44 inch screen in advance,
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I hate fanboys of all kinds, but i think the fanboys here, sorry, the hemordrhoids* will love this: Apple stock
Nothing against the people here, but i just hate all fanboys with a burning passion. I am the anti-fanboy!
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I feel really bad for the Hard Candy company who produced over 50k hard cases for 'iphone 5' 4.44 inch screen in advance,
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^ THIS!
Hhhhaaaaaahah...I thought the saaaame thing.
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according to the stock, it's falling, doing bad, wow! on a release date!?
now that is an eye opening
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I hate fanboys of all kinds, but i think the fanboys here, sorry, the hemordrhoids* will love this: Apple stock
Nothing against the people here, but i just hate all fanboys with a burning passion. I am the anti-fanboy!
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wow!
10chars
just for fun trivia
Google stock is doing better
BazookaAce said:
I hate fanboys of all kinds, but i think the fanboys here, sorry, the hemordrhoids* will love this: Apple stock
Nothing against the people here, but i just hate all fanboys with a burning passion. I am the anti-fanboy!
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Wow! I didn't realize how bad off MS stock is. MS stock
Google looks to be the highest earner. Google stock
Goes some way to explain why Apple feel so threatened by the other phpne manufacturers, Apple didn't have anything in this year's pipeline to compete.
Wow, I was waiting to see what Apples response to the Galaxy S2 would be and they release an iphone 4 with a different processor. I wonder how dumbfounded Samsung and Google and HTC are. The Christmas season is just around the corner and Apple is still trying to milk a phone a year and a half old. I swear, if they get record sales I'm going to lose all faith in humanity.

Nokia N8 or Galaxy Nexus?

Looking to upgrade my HTC G2, since I'm kinda bored of it and dealing with custom ROMs and whatnot - I want something simple/fluid out of the box with official updates in the future for a little bit. Basically limited my phone search to two in particular - the Nokia N8 and the Galaxy Nexus.
The N8 draws me primarily for the camera (great quality + xenon flash), but also the plethora of other features compared to my G2 (AMOLED screen, HDMI out, front-facing camera, Bluetooth 3.0, USB OTG, lighter/smaller, pentaband, battery life). That, and the price - ~$350 for one in good condition and then $30/month for my current T-Mobile plan (best plan for my needs and cheapest price I've seen).
As for the Galaxy Nexus, it's most of the above plus a bigger screen/resolution (both a positive and a negative for me) and NFC (though I probably won't use it for a while as I have neither Mastercard nor Citibank). But...$650+ is a lot when that's about how much I paid for my M11x R1 laptop, especially since it's be more prone to accidents/loss/theft.
Don't really care for app selection (like 90% of my use will be calls/texts/email/web) - the $300+ difference between the two would probably be used for a 7" Android tablet, mostly for watching videos on something more portable than my laptop, which I know I wouldn't buy if I bought the Nexus (had two Android devcies at the same time once and found it too redundant).
Basically not interested in any non-pentaband phone at this point, and no other Nokia phone really grabs me like the N8 (the N9 is nice, but IMO a step back compared to the N8 in features/ports). PLEASE don't just go and say something like "Nokia is old/out" or "Galaxy Nexus, I have it and it's great" - I'd like actual answers, particularly people who have used Symbian Anna (not necessarily the N8 though).
Only other phone I'd sorta consider is the Optimus from Republic Wireless for the cheaper plan price, but I'm waiting for the service to improve (and allow on-the-fly Wifi/CDMA switching) before I truly consider it.
Galaxy Nexus. End of discussion!
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Galaxy Nexus. End of discussion!
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This is what I mean...I'm assuming it's just a joke post, and it doesn't really help my decision >.>
Galaxy Nexus. Nuff said
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Galaxy Nexus. Nuff said
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*sigh* is there a better forum I can ask this question?
magus57 said:
*sigh* is there a better forum I can ask this question?
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They're just screwing with you. Honestly I'm going to give you the same answer though but I'll explain why:
Your reasoning for liking the n8 for the features it has are all in the gn. But the gn has a a better resolution, a super amoled screen (trust me, there is a HUGE difference), a better processor and a better os in the sense of more applications and overall customization. If you're willing to go for the gn* then go for it.
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*sigh* is there a better forum I can ask this question?
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Seriously? If you aren't going to take our advice, why post this? You could of taken the the time to search and read about the Nexus and Nokia than open a thread..... The obvious answer is going to be the Nexus. And you're going to get the same answer in any other forum.
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They're just screwing with you. Honestly I'm going to give you the same answer though but I'll explain why:
Your reasoning for liking the n8 for the features it has are all in the gn. But the gn has a a better resolution, a super amoled screen (trust me, there is a HUGE difference), a better processor and a better os in the sense of more applications and overall customization. If you're willing to go for the gn* then go for it.
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Well, the N8's camera is quite a bit better, if only for xenon flash, and from what I've read the recent Anne update has improved the speed/quality of it...not ever really having to carry a point-and-shoot is a big plus for me.
And yeah, better processor and OS - but for a phone, I could honestly live without it. There's maybe one app I even use out of the house that's dependent on a wireless connection, and if it comes to it I can just bring the 7" tablet with (exactly why I want a 7" one - still portable enough to stick in my pocket). As I said, 90% of my phone use is basically just that, with email and web browsing on the side when I have the time for it.
Honestly, the biggest thing is the price - I can't exactly afford to replace it quickly if it were to break or get lost/stolen, and considering how much Android phones - Nexus or not - depreciate...then there's the screen size. Too small to comfortably watch a movie on, and too big to warrant a 7" tablet for me (and I'm just not interested in anything beyond 7") - especially when it'd be an extra $200+ for basically the same thing I have, an android device, in a bigger size.
I'm not trying to make it seem like I'm set on the N8 or something, I just don't want to get a Galaxy Nexus simply because it's "better" when I don't even really need all that "better-ness"
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Seriously? If you aren't going to take our advice, why post this? You could of taken the the time to search and read about the Nexus and Nokia than open a thread..... The obvious answer is going to be the Nexus. And you're going to get the same answer in any other forum.
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It's not about not taking advice, but I'm looking for advice that consists of more than picking one phone basically because it's the popular phone to recommend. I get this is a tech/phone forum, but that shouldn't mean that everybody only focuses on what's new or "the best" and disregard valid reasons to consider other stuff.
As I mentioned - take into account the fact that I'm going to be getting a 7" Android tablet (likely some Honeycomb/Tegra 2 device) along with said Nokia device, which I absolutely would not get with the Nexus (due to the combined cost, smaller screen size difference, and redundancy of two Android devices - meaning one or the other will be highly underutilized as an Android device).
When you don't need a better phone, why buy a new phone? What's wrong with your G2?
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When you don't need a better phone, why buy a new phone? What's wrong with your G2?
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I want either phone for the better camera (plus secondary) and HDMI-output primarily, but also having better features in general.
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I want either phone for the better camera (plus secondary) and HDMI-output primarily, but also having better features in general.
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The GN's camera is pretty weak, honestly. The SGS2's camera stomps all over it... and it's not even in the same league as the N8's camera.
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N8 is a good device, very durable and has an awesome camera, but will you ever use the camera? Just asking. My friend has it, and he likes it a lot. But he said to me the other day "I want Android." It's worth mentioning that he is a long time Nokia fan and not a geek kinda user like me. But why suddenly said he wants Android? Well because Symbian sucks. Period. Yes, Anne update is not bad, but it just ripped off Android. It looks like a complete Android rip-off.
If the camera is very important to you, you can go for SGSII. Lower price, better camera, smaller screen therefor easier to handle, and one of the best devices ever built.
All in all the choice is yours. But don't make a decision that will make you regret it.
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Oh, and having 2 Android devices is not redundant. It's just more awesome. I've a Nexus S and an Acer A500, but I still would buy a Galaxy Nexus if I had the money.
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Yeah, I'd definitely use the camera - I don't really use my current camera just because of the mediocre quality, but I know that would change with a better quality one.
I guess the GSII is an option, although the T-Mobile version doesn't have Exynos and that's the best version I can afford in terms of monthly plan price...plus, if T-Mobile goes under and the 1700/2100 band isn't taken by anybody (like AT&T) then the phone will be kinda useless, only being able to get 2G/EDGE. And if I was going to consider a phone like that, I'd probably just get the G2x then, which still has basically all features I'd want and a decent amount cheaper than the GSII.
And I had a Streak 7 (both with Gingerbread and Honeycomb)...and found myself using my G2 most of the time, forcing myself to use the Streak 7 instead when possible. Maybe I didn't give it a chance, or I might just not use enough decent Android apps, I dunno.
Anyway, Polaroid recently announced an interesting camera/Android phone combo that includes optical zoom...but phone specs don't seem too spectacular, and it seems to be only available to AT&T. Not sure if it even has HDMI-out, which would be kinda pointless to have such a nice camera and no video-out capabilities...
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The GN's camera is pretty weak, honestly. The SGS2's camera stomps all over it... and it's not even in the same league as the N8's camera.
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True, but I'm pretty sure it's better than the G2's, especially for being really quick.
It seems like you made your decision long before you made this thread. Get the N8. Voila. Done. Enjoy.
There´s no way I could separate my life from Android, so you know my answer.
Wow, I feel dumb now. I just remembered I'll be getting a Fuji W3 soon, which I'm pretty sure will take decent 2D pictures in addition to 3D. Might as well not bother with the N8 then, might actually consider the Galaxy Nexus then.
In my humble opinion, once you use android as the OS, you'll start to like your phone more than phone/sms, thats why its called smartphone
noooo... dont buy a n8.. u will surely regret...
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You don't want more betterness? Get the N8 then, simple. Seems like you are criticizing the nexus more anyway.
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Galaxy nexus
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Nexus 4 vs Galaxy s3

I had to do it.. It was needed specially after the iphone 5 comparison video I got a lot of pms and requests so I had both of them at home and said..why not?
Remember..this is not stock vs stock, however a ROM'd s3 but for the purpose of the video I think it works just fine
Well enjoy
http://youtu.be/yVnT-s5gzlA
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
rault18 said:
I had to do it.. It was needed specially after the iphone 5 comparison video I got a lot of pms and requests so I had both of them at home and said..why not?
Remember..this is not stock vs stock, however a ROM'd s3 but for the purpose of the video I think it works just fine
Well enjoy
http://youtu.be/yVnT-s5gzlA
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Great review. Wow, the nex 4 screen looks beautiful.
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Call me superficial but I don't think I could go back to using a phone with logos on the front.
TrueBrush said:
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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Its not only for them. Also for the android enthusiasts. It has an unlock boot loader and great Dev support.
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If it wasn't for the nex 4 I would have gotten either an gs3 or a note2. The GS3 is definitely a decent phone. Still for the money I think the nex wins.
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Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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SO DAMN TRUE!!!
And you see people saying oh look how fast it is, and the previous device was a nokia with flashlight or an iphone
WTH! -_-
For my two pence worth I had the s3 went back to my gnex awaiting the n4. I love just stock. Also I agree with the comment above about going back to operator logos on handsets. Its hideous. I know why they do it but its horrid. As for the s3 it was very very fast and more than enough for most but after 4 months of use and adding all my stuff to the device it did slow a bit. Not a huge amount by any means but for hard core users it was there plus I couldn't live with the dismal redraw issue when coming out of apps yo the home screen . I know the Gnex is far from perfect but besides battery life I would have the Gnex as my every day phone anytime. So I decided to go for the n4 as my main phone for the next year as it should perform just the same but look better and have a bit more use with the bigger battery although I know tests don't show it being much better. A little would do me. Anyway awesome video and thank you for taking the time to do it
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Call me superficial but I don't think I could go back to using a phone with logos on the front.
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+1 on this.
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Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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I wouldn't necessarily agree with that. For a user like myself in the states, the lack of LTE was the deciding factor for me between the GSIII and N4. I wouldn't call myself general population and I know what Android is, lol.
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Galaxy series is brilliant, but touchwiz is a piece of shyte next to stock android. Also there's no substitute for getting updates on time.
The Nex 4 looks nice, but not having a removable battery like my old EvoLTE and only having 16GB of storage without the ability to upgrade are killers for me. The GS3 development community is Legit as well. I only have 4GB left on my microSD and 3GB left on my onboard 16GB GS3. The battery and storage issues are a Fail IMHO for the Nex4. There is no way I could use it as my everyday camera, video recorder, offline music player, and document storage device. Also, when traveling out of town, you realize how much having extra batteries around makes things a whole lot easier, especially when you are using your phone as a GPS and listening to your offline music on flights (I did have the mobile battery juice device when I had the EvoLTE but it really didn't help).
I use Nova Launcher and HD Widgets so no need for TouchWiz. I will say the Sense and TouchWiz Calendar and Appointments look and function way better than the stock Android Calendar.
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TrueBrush said:
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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That is truly one of the most ignorant statements I've seen on xda in quite some time...and there have been a bunch lately. Besides having more storage, LTE, removable battery, nicer camera and more options...yea, I'll stick with my "general population" phone...Lol. I had the Galaxy Nexus for a while and just left the One X for the Note 2 (similar to the S3...that's why I chimed in)...the first thing I do with any of my Android phones (this is my 6th) is change to Nova Launcher...so while pure Android had it's advantages a year or more ago, that is far from the case now with the heavy duty processors being offered in combination with these launchers. I have debloated my phone, run Nova and also have all the little motion gadgets that are actually useful that are not options on pure Google. It's nice to be able to call someone within a text conversation just by putting the phone to your face or to have the screen automatically stay on as long as you're looking at it. These are features that I actually consider highly useful in the real world. Flame away, but with today's processing power and Samsung's openness to bootloader unlocking and dev community, I actually consider pure Google to be a step backwards FOR ME.
Glad that you guys are starting to get your phones though. I canceled after I received the bo email.
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I got a SGH-I747 from Telus. Paid $0 for it.
It's "only" a dual core, but it has 2 gigs of RAM. And not a single logo on the front.
I'm running CM10 on it. With the 4.2 keyboard and camera/gallery. So maybe I don't know what Android is all about.
I might still get a N4 if Google ever allows me to buy one. But for now, I'm enjoying my S3 very much.
I can't wait for my n4 please please let it arrive this week!!
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I love my Nexus and exclusively buy Nexus brand phones ever since the Nexus S, but I wouldn't call the GS3 just a device for the general consumer. Its component sheet is very good and is still considered a high end phone several months after its release. It does have some good dev support (though Samsung could be a lot more helpful with getting more info about their processors out there) and considering many chose that device after the Galaxy Nexus failed to impress when it was finally announced. Personally I prefer stock Android but there are a couple features I wouldn't mind cherrypicking from the S3 like screenshots, tap to top, and not having the screen go to sleep when you're looking at it. Having sais that, the phone I chose is definately the right one for me and I belive it to be superior to the S3. Also it will be supported longer than the S3 from Google and the dev community.
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Call me superficial but I don't think I could go back to using a phone with logos on the front.
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That's exactly what I just thought.. Though I don't have the nexus 4 right now, I will never go back to a device with a ****ty logo on the front.
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barondebxl said:
Its not only for them. Also for the android enthusiasts. It has an unlock boot loader and great Dev support.
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Yeah, no. How is that Exynos 4 without any kind of documentation treating you?
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That is truly one of the most ignorant statements I've seen on xda in quite some time...and there have been a bunch lately. Besides having more storage, LTE, removable battery, nicer camera and more options...yea, I'll stick with my "general population" phone...Lol. I had the Galaxy Nexus for a while and just left the One X for the Note 2 (similar to the S3...that's why I chimed in)...the first thing I do with any of my Android phones (this is my 6th) is change to Nova Launcher...so while pure Android had it's advantages a year or more ago, that is far from the case now with the heavy duty processors being offered in combination with these launchers. I have debloated my phone, run Nova and also have all the little motion gadgets that are actually useful that are not options on pure Google.
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i have played around with my friend's Note 2 for a whole day and i decided to install Nova to see if stock Android isn't worth it anymore. it turns out it is. Nova + Touchwiz was not as stable or fast (by that i mean touch responsiveness) as my Galaxy Nexus. i wanted to believe it since i am paying almost as much for the Nexus 4 and i really appreciate the Note 2's battery but i just wasn't convinced.
Hmmm... I've sold my SGS2 and waited for N4 but.... SOLD OUT...
This gave me more time to think about and I've realized that getting N4 was like step back to me.. Didn't want to end up like all iPhone users... Easy to break glass all around, very limited storage and non-removable battery.. I'm Not saying N4 is bad but it's Not perfect... (to me not even close to perfect...)
Android Support will be better for N4 and the Hardware is slightly better but I'm very happy with what I've got. It runs super smooth, using GO launcher, 2GB RAM makes a huge difference comparing to S3 tho.
To me GT-I9305 FTW
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I know "best" is subjective, but...

Would you still say that the nexus 4 is the best device the market despite its age?
With all my apps and background processes going, it hasnt slowed down a bit, ir doesn't know what lag is. It is fast, smooth, beautiful and functional and I'm on totally stock unrooted 4.3.
The s⁴, note ² and other more popular phones can not say this despite their superior hardware.
(I'm discounting google editions).
What do you think?
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Would you still say that the nexus 4 is the best device the market despite its age?
With all my apps and background processes going, it hasnt slowed down a bit, ir doesn't know what lag is. It is fast, smooth, beautiful and functional and I'm on totally stock unrooted 4.3.
The s⁴, note ² and other more popular phones can not say this despite their superior hardware.
(I'm discounting google editions).
What do you think?
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Yeah, I totally agree when it comes to performance. That is the big pro running stock android in its pure state.
There are definitely cons where it can't reach the new phones, but I'm totally OK with 'em.
Battery life is good to go trough my work day. Storage is enough (for me). Don't really need a better camera on my phone.
Yes, I'm pretty happy with my nexus and I think it will satisfy me until there the next generation this fall... :thumbup:
Yes, I am very happy with mine and I know people who have GS3, GS4 or iPhone 5 and none of them reaches the quality of my nexus 4 imo. And I am so glad to be part of this awesome community!
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Would you still say that the nexus 4 is the best device the market despite its age?
With all my apps and background processes going, it hasnt slowed down a bit, ir doesn't know what lag is. It is fast, smooth, beautiful and functional and I'm on totally stock unrooted 4.3.
The s⁴, note ² and other more popular phones can not say this despite their superior hardware.
(I'm discounting google editions).
What do you think?
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Note 2 does not have superior hardware. It has same processor as the S3 which is quad core version of the processor in S2.
Coming to S4. Exynos version beats N4 by long margin as it's A15 processor. The US and European versions of S4 use a slightly improved version of the processor that's in N4 so it's sort of tie of you check benchmarks.
Touchwiz shows Samsung phones. Even the S4 lags badly at times.
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Since the thread is subjective, as OP stated, I'll have to say that I wouldn't trade my N4 for any other phone. I actually plan on keeping it after my contract has run out in Dec 2014. It's that good.
I'm sure I'll figure out a way to replace the battery as well.:victory:
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Since the thread is subjective, as OP stated, I'll have to say that I wouldn't trade my N4 for any other phone. I actually plan on keeping it after my contract has run out in Dec 2014. It's that good.
I'm sure I'll figure out a way to replace the battery as well.:victory:
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why..? is the battery is no good.? or is it just as a standard procedure after long usage..?
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Iphone users used to say this 3 years ago;
It just works.
Nope. As an owner of all the ones you mention...I'd say the Note 2 is the Best. Its a sweet smartphone.
Just my opinion and I currently am using a Nexus 4 as of a few days ago and I am surprised how great it runs...I agree the n4 is an excellent device though...no complaints at all (well except the small 4.7 screen).
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Note 2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9 belong in the dash of a Cadillac or limo roof, no need for big ass phones that don't fit normal pockets.
"iPhone=Boat shoes,sweaters over shirt/tie,whores,non prescriptive glasses with slicked hair,hipster concerts,too much ignorance"-sent from my NEXUS 4
It's certainly the best bang for your buck. At $300/$350 for a device of this caliber, how could you go wrong?
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Hell yea the Nexus 4 Is still a top notch phone, Not only Price But Software as well. Love My Nexus:good::good:
yeah there's no other phone that comes closer to price/performance ratio...the price is a steal.
nexus 4 is perfect excepting the battery life...especially compared to iphone 5
Honestly for the price you pay and its excellent performance its value seems to be, personally much more than that of another Samsung device.
Yeah sure...we're in nexus 4 section on xda. I don't wanna sounds like a **** but I guess 90% of us think the same about our device. So is it really necessary to open a new thread for that?
I am sure that even after 2 years you'll find people that think this way about N4 here. Just check s2 or GN section, you'll easily find posts saying that GN is still one of the very best handsets (hardwarewise) or that S2 running Cm10.1 (with not working project butter) is buttery smooth
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No LAG!!!!! If you wanna play games buy a console,..S4 is nothing special
"iPhone=Boat shoes,sweaters over shirt/tie,whores,non prescriptive glasses with slicked hair,hipster concerts,too much ignorance"-sent from my NEXUS 4
Cream$ickleHJ said:
No LAG!!!!! If you wanna play games buy a console,..S4 is nothing special
"iPhone=Boat shoes,sweaters over shirt/tie,whores,non prescriptive glasses with slicked hair,hipster concerts,too much ignorance"-sent from my NEXUS 4
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No better way to say it.
Lag on n⁴ is so rare its unbelievable, far less than on the iphone 4s.
I really love the nexus range now and couldn't imagine leaving unless it was for a future Note model but even then it would be a work device/second device to a nexus, the n⁴ is the first phone to enamour me since the HTC HD 7 (which still runs amazing on stock wp7.8 after like 3 or 4 years)
I previously had s3 international and if was nice and made me finally like android, I hated it pre-ics/jb and pre-quadcore as it was so horrible to see the mess and lag...
Right now though, android and nexus = pure phone heaven
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Nexus ⁴ stock unrooted 4.3 with Kii Keyboard.
I definitely say the Note 2. Of course this crowd is biased towards aosp where as people in the note forums will say anything under 5x is a joke. I for one love the spen actually prefer twiz over aosp. I am not using gnex because I wanted the "pure Google experience" Nein! I am using this because I had to sell my note 2 because I am broke and the gnex seemed to the best suitable downgrade from the N2. Rest assured I will probably get the Note 3 come tax season. Might even buy Note 2 once the value decreased for the N3
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A worthy Successor to the Nexus 5

Note: I apologise if this isn't the appropriate section but I couldn't think of a better one than the N5 General forum. English isn't my native language and although I proof read the post several times it's still going to be fairly awkward.
The Nexus 4 and 5* were high end devices with unlocked bootloaders, direct support from Google, large communities and they were sold at a very affordable price off-contract.
The Nexus 6 is a high end device with an (supposedly) unlocked bootloader, direct support from Google, a large community...
...but it costs 300€ more. That's 380 US dollars. Oh and it's also a 6 inch phablet. Both ensures that the N6 isn't an option for a lot of people, myself included.
I came to the conclusion the N5 doesn't actually have a successor.
That is a huge issue for me because I will need a new phone in the next few months and I don't know what to get. There are the usual suspects from Samsung, HTC, LG and all the other brands but they aren't the same as the Nexus. They all miss the extremely clean Android experience. Even the N5's design is very modest (something I'm missing in the Nexus 6). The software is arguably worse, they don't get direct updates and they probably have a smaller dev community too. They all are much more expensive than the Nexus 5 was in 2013.
The OnePlus One still hasn't been launched yet and I would prefer a phone from one of the known brands.
Can I hope for a Nexus 5 (2014)?
And if I don't: Is there even a spiritual successor to the Nexus line of smartphones?
*You may argue with battery life and camera but they were still extremely competitive when they were released.
the moto X 2014 developer's edition
thank me later.....
Why do you "need" a new phone? I'm only getting the nexus 6 because I'm a nexus fan boy. If they said oh were nut making a new nexus I would be totally fine with the nexus 5 for another year. It's still blazing fast. Even faster with lollipop.
If I was too get a new phone right now and I didn't get a nexus it would be a don't z3 or z3 compact.
Nexus 5 doesn't need a successor yet
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That is a huge issue for me because I will need a new phone in the next few months
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Why???
"Addiction isn't about substance - you aren't addicted to the substance, you are addicted to the alteration of mood that the substance brings." :angel:
Buy the Nexus 5 in a different color once Android L come out.
Bam, you've got yourself a new phone.
In my opinion, there is no worthy successor to the N5 yet.
Maybe next year. A Nexus 5 (2015) with Snapdragon 810, Good 13MP Camera with Sony Exmor sensor and Xenon flash, 4GB RAM, 1080p IPS Display, Good build quality (metal frame), 3200mAh battery and Android M ...that would be a good successor.
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Yakandu said:
Nexus 5 doesn't need a successor yet
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^^^ This ^^^
Still a worthy flagship until 64-bit processors come out with apps that can use the potential.
But, if you just want something new, I'd get the OnePlus One. I have both, and my Nexus 5 gets used far less.
Nexus 5 isn't as young as 2013 but he's still the best phone for me :
- performance are very good, not the best in benchmark (41000 antutu v5 cm11 and elementalX) but there isn't any costumize from the constructor, that's why nexus 5 is more stable and the faster
- life time : i hope we will have 2-3 years google update, but we will have update from cyanogenmod after these years and many others workers, galaxy nexus still have many people who make up to date rom and enhancement
- The size is very goo
- the battery isn't very good but i heard that a company is working on a better battery for nexus 5, very easy to install
And futhermore, nexus 5 have one of the best screen, full hd. Phone with quadHD have a battery time like nexus 5 (but have 3200mha) and games performances are better on nexus 5.
But nexus 5 should have metal
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^^^ This ^^^
Still a worthy flagship until 64-bit processors come out with apps that can use the potential.
But, if you just want something new, I'd get the OnePlus One. I have both, and my Nexus 5 gets used far less.
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64 bits wont be any faster than 32, same as PC.
CafeKampuchia said:
^^^ This ^^^
Still a worthy flagship until 64-bit processors come out with apps that can use the potential.
But, if you just want something new, I'd get the OnePlus One. I have both, and my Nexus 5 gets used far less.
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How is the general responsiveness of the 1+1 compared to N5? We all love the N5 for its buttery smooth performance and huge dev support. Is that also there on the 1+1? Thanks.
Primokorn said:
Why???
"Addiction isn't about substance - you aren't addicted to the substance, you are addicted to the alteration of mood that the substance brings." :angel:
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Why do you assume I'm addicted to anything?
If you must know, my mother would like to get a smartphone and she asked me to handle it. If I was addicted, I wouldn't have worried about price and such, no?
aletto said:
Why do you assume I'm addicted to anything?
If you must know, my mother would like to get a smartphone and she asked me to handle it. If I was addicted, I wouldn't have worried about price and such, no?
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You didn't say that though, you said you "needed" one. If it's for your mother why not just get a more budget oriented one?
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You didn't say that though, you said you "needed" one. If it's for your mother why not just get a more budget oriented one?
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What else was I supposed to write? Words still elude me at times and I find it challenging to explain myself in a foreign language... if that was too ambiguous; I apologise.
Well I do want to get her the best there is and I was fairly certain it'd be a Nexus. Now that I've been thoroughly disappointed I'm looking for alternatives. I could get her a more budget oriented one, but it'd be less than ideal...
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Nexus 5 isn't as young as 2013 but he's still the best phone for me :
- performance are very good, not the best in benchmark (41000 antutu v5 cm11 and elementalX) but there isn't any costumize from the constructor, that's why nexus 5 is more stable and the faster
- life time : i hope we will have 2-3 years google update, but we will have update from cyanogenmod after these years and many others workers, galaxy nexus still have many people who make up to date rom and enhancement
- The size is very goo
- the battery isn't very good but i heard that a company is working on a better battery for nexus 5, very easy to install
And futhermore, nexus 5 have one of the best screen, full hd. Phone with quadHD have a battery time like nexus 5 (but have 3200mha) and games performances are better on nexus 5.
But nexus 5 should have metal
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Do you have a link about the bigger battery thing? I am very interested
aletto said:
Why do you assume I'm addicted to anything?
If you must know, my mother would like to get a smartphone and she asked me to handle it. If I was addicted, I wouldn't have worried about price and such, no?
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Due to the above point and because a lot of people always want the newest phone even if they don't need it.
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What else was I supposed to write? Words still elude me at times and I find it challenging to explain myself in a foreign language... if that was too ambiguous; I apologise.
Well I do want to get her the best there is and I was fairly certain it'd be a Nexus. Now that I've been thoroughly disappointed I'm looking for alternatives. I could get her a more budget oriented one, but it'd be less than ideal...
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Giving a N5 to your mother isn't a good idea I think. If you don't have basic Android knownledges you can quickly complain about battery life and your mother will ask for a 'better phone'.
If I were you I would keep my N5 and buy another phone with a bigger battery for my mother.
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Do you have a link about the bigger battery thing? I am very interested
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Here is thz link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/accessories/official-poll-mugen-extended-internal-t2542589
Primokorn said:
Due to the above point and because a lot of people always want the newest phone even if they dont need it.
Giving a N5 to your mother isnt a good idea I think. If you dont have basic Android knownledges you can quickly complain about battery life and your mother will ask for a better phone.
If I were you I would keep my N5 and buy another phone with a bigger battery for my mother.
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Okay, there's a bit of miscommunication going on here. When I mentioned in the OP I needed a new phone it was meant for my mother and I didn't mention her because i didn't deem it important. I will keep my N5 and I was going to get her this year's Nexus.
aletto said:
Okay, there's a bit of miscommunication going on here. When I mentioned in the OP I needed a new phone it was meant for my mother and I didn't mention her because i didn't deem it important. I will keep my N5 and I was going to get her this year's Nexus.
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Get her a Moto G instead. The 2014 edition is similar in size to the N5, and the lesser SoC feels snappy for just about everything besides gaming. Games will still run fine just not at quite the same level as the N5.
It's about $200 USD off contract and comes unlocked if bought direct from Motorola.
waa.. stop crying. the nexus one, nexus s, and the gnex were all more expensive. only the n4 and n5 were less. just because the n6 is bigger and cost more, then its not a replacement? deal with it or don't buy the next nexus. me, I'm always a nexus *****, so I'll get the n6 no matter what, as it IS the next nexus replacement.

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