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Hey guys,
I know that heat is bad for the battery, but I've been playing a game that eats battery way too fast for me to play unplugged. I've been playing Dungeon Hunter 4. It's been hard to put down.
So my question is this: is it bad to play games when your phone is plugged in? Is it only if the phone exceeds a certain temperature, or are there other reasons why it may harm the battery?
As for the temperatures I'm dealing with. I'm getting about 2 degrees more when playing plugged in. About 42/43 degrees. I know people get higher temps playing other games unplugged, so does this mean I'm safe to continue?
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I would believe that apart from the added heat, there should be a reason why you should not do it. It's either the rapid up/down of the battery state etc etc. Someone more familiar with battery tech could answer this better
Anyone having lag issue playing with real racing 3 while charging? Btw the phone is quite hot too.
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That is exactly your problem... You should NEVER play intensive games when it's charging.. You're just doing harm to the battery and increasing temps thus more frequent throttling.
alanchai said:
Anyone having lag issue playing with real racing 3 while charging? Btw the phone is quite hot too.
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throttling, when the device heats up it will throttle, never game on the charger is a smartphone and not Sega Game Gear :laugh:
also custom kernels like ElementalX deals much better with throttling
Ok noted
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I'm still trying to figure out what is the reason behind not gaming while charging.
Temperature isn't a concern since this phone will throttle at the same temperature, regardless of charging or not. In one game, the phone will play to 42 degrees and keep it from going over. The phone reaches this temperature both plugged and unplugged. I do notice that the phone throttles more when plugged, but it successfully keeps the phone from getting any hotter than normal gaming temps.
So what is the reason not to game when plugged?
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ataft said:
I'm still trying to figure out what is the reason behind not gaming while charging.
Temperature isn't a concern since this phone will throttle at the same temperature, regardless of charging or not. In one game, the phone will play to 42 degrees and keep it from going over. The phone reaches this temperature both plugged and unplugged. I do notice that the phone throttles more when plugged, but it successfully keeps the phone from getting any hotter than normal gaming temps.
So what is the reason not to game when plugged?
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The battery heats up faster when charging
hamdir said:
throttling, when the device heats up it will throttle, never game on the charger is a smartphone and not Sega Game Gear :laugh:
also custom kernels like ElementalX deals much better with throttling
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Yeah, the One has better on screen time than the GG. LOL Man, those 6 AA's
MacHackz said:
The battery heats up faster when charging
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The battery heats up fast even when not plugged in. Try it yourself.
Does anyone know, definitively, given what I wrote above, why we should not be gaming while plugged?
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ataft said:
The battery heats up fast even when not plugged in. Try it yourself.
Does anyone know, definitively, given what I wrote above, why we should not be gaming while plugged?
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Rapid charge and discharge while gaming is probably the biggest reason. Really burns through the miles on the battery.
ArmedandDangerous said:
Rapid charge and discharge while gaming is probably the biggest reason. Really burns through the miles on the battery.
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But on the charger you wouldn't be discharging, just a slower charge. With Dungeon Hunter 4, the phone will burn through the battery when unplugged, but it doesn't tax the system enough to discharge when plugged in.
I know previously, with my One X, super heavy games would cause it to slowly use up battery when plugged in. So I'm surprised I haven't seen that with the One. Maybe DH4 isn't as heavy as RR3.
But I'm starting to wonder if playing while plugged in is bad at all... consider laptops: If I wanted to play a game on my laptop, I would definitely have it plugged in. I don't think I've ever questioned whether that was bad or not. True, laptops have fans to keep it cool, but we already know the One will keep the battery below 43 degrees (at least for mine).
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But on the charger you wouldn't be discharging, just a slower charge. With Dungeon Hunter 4, the phone will burn through the battery when unplugged, but it doesn't tax the system enough to discharge when plugged in.
I know previously, with my One X, super heavy games would cause it to slowly use up battery when plugged in. So I'm surprised I haven't seen that with the One. Maybe DH4 isn't as heavy as RR3.
But I'm starting to wonder if playing while plugged in is bad at all... consider laptops: If I wanted to play a game on my laptop, I would definitely have it plugged in. I don't think I've ever questioned whether that was bad or not. True, laptops have fans to keep it cool, but we already know the One will keep the battery below 43 degrees (at least for mine).
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Laptops are made to withstand heat, and the way laptops stay on when on the charger is different. Most laptops use half battery and half charger power. When it's plugged in, you can yank the battery out and the laptop will stay on while phones run primarily on battery regardless if it's plugged in or not (THIS IS BASED SOLELY FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE SO WILL PROBABLY BE HIGHLY INACCURATE)
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But on the charger you wouldn't be discharging, just a slower charge. With Dungeon Hunter 4, the phone will burn through the battery when unplugged, but it doesn't tax the system enough to discharge when plugged in.
I know previously, with my One X, super heavy games would cause it to slowly use up battery when plugged in. So I'm surprised I haven't seen that with the One. Maybe DH4 isn't as heavy as RR3.
But I'm starting to wonder if playing while plugged in is bad at all... consider laptops: If I wanted to play a game on my laptop, I would definitely have it plugged in. I don't think I've ever questioned whether that was bad or not. True, laptops have fans to keep it cool, but we already know the One will keep the battery below 43 degrees (at least for mine).
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My One charging VERYY.......SLOW when I was playing real racing 3. It tooks sometime to increase by 1%. While on battery very fast.... drop few % in a short while....
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alanchai said:
My One charging VERYY.......SLOW when I was playing real racing 3. It tooks sometime to increase by 1%. While on battery very fast.... drop few % in a short while....
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That's how it will be, and it kinda proves my theory too. Phones run on battery even when they are plugged in, and charging it while it's also rapidly discharging leads to a very hot and very slow charge.
alanchai said:
My One charging VERYY.......SLOW when I was playing real racing 3. It tooks sometime to increase by 1%. While on battery very fast.... drop few % in a short while....
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NEVER do a heavy task while you're charging your phone bro. Believe me, your phone "will not be happy".
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Also, I imagine laptops would be different as their power draw is so much greater than a phone. A laptop charger provides much more than ours, even tablets are this way. So then the question also extends to tablets: are you not supposed to game while plugged in on a tablet?
It would be nice if we had a technical answer to this from HTC or someone in the field. I hate having to constantly recharge my phone because I played a game on it for an hour... Especially this phone, it takes so damn long to charge!
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Okay, so just received my nexus 6 yesterday. it seems to get pretty warm while charging and playing simple games like crossy roads for around 10, the battery temperature goes to 42-4 degrees celcius. and while charging it also goes to around 41-42.
could this be due to the fact that this is a new phone and the phone is taking time to do its starting operations. will this problem eventully go away. i also updated to android 5.1
Hope i get a solve for this.
The app i use to monitor this is CPU Temp(also includes battery temp).
nklrwt said:
Okay, so just received my nexus 6 yesterday. it seems to get pretty warm while charging and playing simple games like crossy roads for around 10, the battery temperature goes to 42-4 degrees celcius. and while charging it also goes to around 41-42.
could this be due to the fact that this is a new phone and the phone is taking time to do its starting operations. will this problem eventully go away. i also updated to android 5.1
Hope i get a solve for this.
The app i use to monitor this is CPU Temp(also includes battery temp).
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If using the quick charger, the phone will get hot. Especially when playing a game and charging
nklrwt said:
Okay, so just received my nexus 6 yesterday. it seems to get pretty warm while charging and playing simple games like crossy roads for around 10, the battery temperature goes to 42-4 degrees celcius. and while charging it also goes to around 41-42.
could this be due to the fact that this is a new phone and the phone is taking time to do its starting operations. will this problem eventully go away. i also updated to android 5.1
Hope i get a solve for this.
The app i use to monitor this is CPU Temp(also includes battery temp).
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On the Turbo charger the first two step of the whole charge cycle are at a higher power 14.4W each the last is only 8W. More power more heat dissipation-especially if your using data and your processor is working hard, then it can get really hot. Toward the end if the change cycle it is considerably cooler-especially is your not doing anything in the phone.
Edit: I forgot in use the CPU can ramp up and get hot/warm(depending on how heavy the use(some "simple" games may have more running in background perhaps-like ads and such) but is pretty normal) but even more so if your on WiFi or data too.
Any phone gets hot while playing games and charging at the same time... The nexus 6 is actually pretty good with its heat compared to other Nexus phones.
italia0101 said:
Any phone gets hot while playing games and charging at the same time... The nexus 6 is actually pretty good with its heat compared to other Nexus phones.
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Bro i wasnt charging and playing at the same time. When charging i keep the phone aside. Then it gets hot. Even while playing 10 mims of candy crush it gets upto 42 degrees celcius of the battery.
I had heat issues at first. I'm assuming all the app restoring I was doing was the culprit. I did decrypt my phone the very next day and it runs pretty cool
I've been using Z3+ for quite some times now.
Since the first time I bought the phone (which was a second-handed phone) I only have one question.
If I charged my phone and used it, it wouldn't increase the battery percentage(s) or it would be so slow to increase.
I installed this app called AccuBattery to give me info the status of my battery, is it losing or gaining.
And yes, it lost mA (-86 - xxxx) while I was using the phone. Is it normal?
Yes its normal
thesims2customs said:
I've been using Z3+ for quite some times now.
Since the first time I bought the phone (which was a second-handed phone) I only have one question.
If I charged my phone and used it, it wouldn't increase the battery percentage(s) or it would be so slow to increase.
I installed this app called AccuBattery to give me info the status of my battery, is it losing or gaining.
And yes, it lost mA (-86 - xxxx) while I was using the phone. Is it normal?
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This is not normal. Buy an original Charge. Use regular wall plugs, not extended plug sockets. But I warn you, phone gets very hot if you use it while charging. If this charger method doesn't work, go to sony service and ask for battery replacement..
cashflow67 said:
This is not normal. Buy an original Charge. Use regular wall plugs, not extended plug sockets. But I warn you, phone gets very hot if you use it while charging. If this charger method doesn't work, go to sony service and ask for battery replacement..
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I am using Aukey Charger btw. Well, it is random, if watched videos on 720p or more it would decrease, the same with playing games.
thesims2customs said:
I am using Aukey Charger btw. Well, it is random, if watched videos on 720p or more it would decrease, the same with playing games.
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Yes it does that with other chargers, I swear I have 4 chargers in my house and none of them were up to the task to charge this phone efficiently so I bought an "adaptive fast charger" and no complaints since. While playing game it still charges a bit slow but it doesn't decrease any more.
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Yes it does that with other chargers, I swear I have 4 chargers in my house and none of them were up to the task to charge this phone efficiently so I bought an "adaptive fast charger" and no complaints since. While playing game it still charges a bit slow but it doesn't decrease any more.
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Can I know what's your charger?
thesims2customs said:
Can I know what's your charger?
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it is Samsung EP-TA20JWEUSTA Adaptive Fast Home Charger
thesims2customs said:
I am using Aukey Charger btw. Well, it is random, if watched videos on 720p or more it would decrease, the same with playing games.
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Playing games and watching videos of course slows down charging. I am talking about randomly decreasing charging rate while phone screen is off. But as he said, samsung adaptive charge is very good at charging faster and safer...
cashflow67 said:
Playing games and watching videos of course slows down charging. I am talking about randomly decreasing charging rate while phone screen is off. But as he said, samsung adaptive charge is very good at charging faster and safer...
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Ohhh am sorry, if the screen is off it will keep charging up, but I was talking about charging while using my phone. Sorry to be ambiguous.
Ummm.... Okay, I guess I'll find Samsung Fast Charging later. So sad that Aukey can't keep make my charging stable.
You need to use a Qualcomm charger with Quick charge 2.0. This is not the same as adaptive quick charge. Qualcomm quick charge 2.0 is built in to the processor. It works even if you change ROMs. It's the only one that can keep up with the phone's demand, and can charge the phone in just over an hour. I've had the phone since before it was released in the U.S.
Don't expect this phone to charge any faster with QC2 for example. And if you watch videos or even pay games, I can imaging that the device will heat up (because SD 810...) and the charging speed will reduce itself drastically. Or even discharge. I don't know why but QC doesn't work on this phone at all. Even my Z3 tablet charges up faster with QC than the Z3+.
Iam using Sony UCH10 quickcharger 2.0, and when i play heavy game, battery percentage stay at one place or it decrease...its because the phone consume more energy than battery can give... And yes,its normal.
HAS ANYONE NOTICED OVERHEATING OF PHONE MOSTLY WHILE CHARGING, GAMING (should expect some heat not this much). I play PUBG on smooth basic plus extreme with no AA and gfx lower settings. Still phone heats up. FAN seems to be a marketing gimmick too. Circulation of air is v poor.
My question is can this be fixed via twrp custom rom tweaks. I'm willing to experiment.
Excuse me. Are you one of those geniuses who charges his phone while gaming?
thel'vadam said:
HAS ANYONE NOTICED OVERHEATING OF PHONE MOSTLY WHILE CHARGING, GAMING (should expect some heat not this much). I play PUBG on smooth basic plus extreme with no AA and gfx lower settings. Still phone heats up. FAN seems to be a marketing gimmick too. Circulation of air is v poor.
My question is can this be fixed via twrp custom rom tweaks. I'm willing to experiment.
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Yes I have the same issue
Aashishmv said:
Yes I have the same issue
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Describe the issue.
What is the app/activity?
What is the temperature of CPU and Battery?
What is the temperature of air?
nabbed said:
Describe the issue.
What is the app/activity?
What is the temperature of CPU and Battery?
What is the temperature of air?
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I think nubia have fake temp status.
Or is that a bug i don't know
When i turn the fan on at max speed. Temp increased. Things like that happen. Or when i come back to auto from performance mode. Tem goes up.
Which is weird. Makes me believe that all this temp and gpu turbo and fan is a gimmick.
Air temp is 26 deg Celsius.
thel'vadam said:
I think nubia have fake temp status.
Or is that a bug i don't know
When i turn the fan on at max speed. Temp increased. Things like that happen. Or when i come back to auto from performance mode. Tem goes up.
Which is weird. Makes me believe that all this temp and gpu turbo and fan is a gimmick.
Air temp is 26 deg Celsius.
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How do you measure the temperature? Was it a temperature of the CPU or the battery?
If your sentiment is not a user error or a fluke, then your unit is defective. Here's what one of the most prolific Youtube reviewers said about the fan - "it was keeping my phone 8 degrees cooler than my Samsung." I assume 8C, not Fahrenheit, because the reviewer is from UK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4v3_3cPh0A#t=7m20s
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How do you measure the temperature? Was it a temperature of the CPU or the battery?
If your sentiment is not a user error or a fluke, then your unit is defective. Here's what one of the most prolific Youtube reviewers said about the fan - "it was keeping my phone 8 degrees cooler than my Samsung." I assume 8C, not Fahrenheit, because the reviewer is from UK.
#t=7m20s
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YouTube ers are paid. I check the temp stats from gaming app . Inbuilt.
Plus the phone feels hot in hand. Not 8 degrees cooler. And Hunan hand can easily feel 8 degrees change in temp over 5-10 minutes
thel'vadam said:
YouTube ers are paid. I check the temp stats from gaming app . Inbuilt.
Plus the phone feels hot in hand. Not 8 degrees cooler. And Hunan hand can easily feel 8 degrees change in temp over 5-10 minutes
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Instead of admitting that you were sold a defective unit and exchanging it for a working one, you think there's a conspiracy that involves the Nubia corporation and "paid youtubers."
But hey, I'm thinking this guy is not a psychopath. Maybe it's just a user erorr.
Maybe he thinks that having a fan in the phone should make the phone feel cool to touch during gaming.
Maybe he simply doesn't understand that the fan may be lowering the temperature from 55C to 47C, and that 47C will still feel hot to the hand.
Hey guy,
Can you actually provide real world numbers with screenshots?
No one has experienced anything like this before, so either your phone is defective or you have a nervous breakdown.
Yes, the phone overheats while charging but if you switch on the gaming mode to check heat also in certain Celsius comes down gradually and quickly in my case. So fans not a fake gimmick. Also when you are playing games heat is normal for heavy graphic 3d rendering titles like pubg, fortnight I play pubg with extreme HD and it heats but the fan keeps decreasing the heat. My suggestion is to charge where there is air free flow of air like a fan, AC, or cooler to keep ambient temp in control.
praveenparvani said:
Is the phone overheats when charging but if you switch on the gaming more and the famine normal performance also the Celsius comes down gradually so when is not fake also when you playing games that is normal heating I play with extreme HD and it heats but the fan keeps decreasing decreasing heat my suggestion is to charge where there is air flow free air flow are a fan AC cooler on.
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What he said. Sorry.
nabbed said:
Instead of admitting that you were sold a defective unit and exchanging it for a working one, you think there's a conspiracy that involves the Nubia corporation and "paid youtubers."
But hey, I'm thinking this guy is not a psychopath. Maybe it's just a user erorr.
Maybe he thinks that having a fan in the phone should make the phone feel cool to touch during gaming.
Maybe he simply doesn't understand that the fan may be lowering the temperature from 55C to 47C, and that 47C will still feel hot to the hand.
Hey guy,
Can you actually provide real world numbers with screenshots?
No one has experienced anything like this before, so either your phone is defective or you have a nervous breakdown.
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There is term called "anpad", search google. Means noob.
In forums here devs try to explore and experiment with every possible problem the OS or hardware may face.
See im not going to respond further to your low IQ behaviour anymore. Good day to you.
praveenparvani said:
Is the phone overheats when charging but if you switch on the gaming more and the famine normal performance also the Celsius comes down gradually so when is not fake also when you playing games that is normal heating I play with extreme HD and it heats but the fan keeps decreasing decreasing heat my suggestion is to charge where there is air flow free air flow are a fan AC cooler on.
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Yes
That is understandable, but then what is the fun of a fan gimmick when you need additional external air circulation with AC.
Even with clash of clans. Not much demanding game phone heats up. Plus additional charging while playing the temp increases continuously.
Circulation of heat and cooling inside the phone is poor. I'm starting to wonder if the battery has nay issues of heat while charging.
thel'vadam said:
There is term called "anpad", search google. Means noob.
In forums here devs try to explore and experiment with every possible problem the OS or hardware may face.
See im not going to respond further to your low IQ behaviour anymore. Good day to you.
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Low iq behavior? Projection much?
You are the one who's playing games while charging the phone, something that should not be done to a cellphone battery especially with 26C ambient air.
You realize that by charging and playing you are heating up the battery and the cpu at the same time and that's really going to cut battery's life real quick?
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What he said. Sorry.
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Apologies for the mess. Was relyed on Google voice without proof reading. I have edited now.
I'm not suggest to plug in a charger while gaming, it will make the phone hot, especially when you using the original fast charger. Anoher thing is you hae to know you can't get a high performance with the low temperature, if you get a very hot phone, the cpu will running in a low clock speed. The RM3 can get highest score on Antutu so I think the fan is doing something.
JerryYin said:
I'm not suggest to plug in a charger while gaming, it will make the phone hot, especially when you using the original fast charger. Anoher thing is you hae to know you can't get a high performance with the low temperature, if you get a very hot phone, the cpu will running in a low clock speed. The RM3 can get highest score on Antutu so I think the fan is doing something.
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I agree the fan is going something. Had the circulation been a bit effective i think it could have been utilised in a more better way.
Anyways i was just charging the phone while gaming to test the heat limits. Not actually doing it.
Still i have noticed battery heat while standby charging
thel'vadam said:
I agree the fan is going something. Had the circulation been a bit effective i think it could have been utilised in a more better way.
Anyways i was just charging the phone while gaming to test the heat limits. Not actually doing it.
Still i have noticed battery heat while standby charging
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If you are using a fast charger, the battery will get hot, that's normal.
Nubia red magic 3 Phone crashes..
I played pubg for 2hrs, the phone became unresponsive, the phone becomes so hot and the screen flashes with white pictures.. red magic 3..
Bunblebee01 said:
I played pubg for 2hrs, the phone became unresponsive, the phone becomes so hot and the screen flashes with white pictures.. red magic 3..
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What was the ambient temperature?
28degree c and lower, the same problem occurs.. nubia support told me its normal?
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I guess i have to stick with it and just cool it down every after 1game of pubg..