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Hello All,
Before I order my Xperia Z, I am trying to figure out what model to get best suited for my carrier. I am in US and would like to use T-Mobile.
I am leaning towards the 6603 since it has the ability to be flashed with the ZL baseband which enables LTE support for those in Canada. It should work for US also but nobody has posted from US with success. My only concern with the 6603 is that it does not have 1700/1900 support out of the box.
I guess what I am asking is, if I purchase the 6603 and flash the ZL baseband, will it have the ability for HSPA+ for Tmobile? The ZL supports LTE and HSPA+. Ideally it would be great to have LTE also but at a minimum I would want HSPA+. Not sure if this is a hardware or baseband limitation.
The 6602 has HSPA+ out of the box but apparently you can't get LTE even with flashing the ZL baseband.
If someone could clear the confusion that would be much appreciated.
dsmero said:
Hello All,
Before I order my Xperia Z, I am trying to figure out what model to get best suited for my carrier. I am in US and would like to use T-Mobile.
I am leaning towards the 6603 since it has the ability to be flashed with the ZL baseband which enables LTE support for those in Canada. It should work for US also but nobody has posted from US with success. My only concern with the 6603 is that it does not have 1700/1900 support out of the box.
I guess what I am asking is, if I purchase the 6603 and flash the ZL baseband, will it have the ability for HSPA+ for Tmobile? The ZL supports LTE and HSPA+. Ideally it would be great to have LTE also but at a minimum I would want HSPA+. Not sure if this is a hardware or baseband limitation.
The 6602 has HSPA+ out of the box but apparently you can't get LTE even with flashing the ZL baseband.
If someone could clear the confusion that would be much appreciated.
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C6602 won't get LTE support cause it doesn't have its compatible hardware (LTE antenna)
but with HSPA+ u will have fast internet access like LTE
But i suggest u to buy C6603 because of LTE
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x102x96x said:
C6602 won't get LTE support cause it doesn't have its compatible hardware (LTE antenna)
but with HSPA+ u will have fast internet access like LTE
But i suggest u to buy C6603 because of LTE
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Yeah that's what I'm leaning towards I just don't want to get the C6603, flash the zl baseband only not to get HSPA+ or LTE and be stuck on Edge.
I wish they could just make a variant that supports all lol
dsmero said:
Yeah that's what I'm leaning towards I just don't want to get the C6603, flash the zl baseband only not to get HSPA+ or LTE and be stuck on Edge.
I wish they could just make a variant that supports all lol
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C6606 should be launching soon. Wait for that if it matters than much. Can't go wrong with c6606
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does your city support LTE? if not then why bother? I am using HSPA+ on tmobile and its 15 down and 3 up which is equivalent to my fios internet...I dont need 30mb down for a phone as it is irrelevant as most server will throttle download speed anyway.
G1_enthusiast said:
does your city support LTE? if not then why bother? I am using HSPA+ on tmobile and its 15 down and 3 up which is equivalent to my fios internet...I dont need 30mb down for a phone as it is irrelevant as most server will throttle download speed anyway.
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It does and I like the idea of further proofing. I might try AT&T also if not happy with Tmobile. I do agree with HSPA+ being beast, I just like to have as many options available as I can
I wish the C6606 had a firm release date i'm itching for a new phone to play around with.
dsmero said:
It does and I like the idea of further proofing. I might try AT&T also if not happy with Tmobile. I do agree with HSPA+ being beast, I just like to have as many options available as I can
I wish the C6606 had a firm release date i'm itching for a new phone to play around with.
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If i were u i wait for that ZR, its water proof not like the Z where its water resistant
The C6606 definitely looks like the way to go. HSPA+ and LTE support for the US and identical specs to the C6603. Just no release date.
The ZR being waterproof is appealing but looks to have a 720p screen and 4.5"
Hey all, I am about ready to pull the trigger on a C6602 Xperia Z from GsmNation but am wondering if I should just wait for the official T-Mobile version? I am currently on T-Mobile running a Nexus 4 and am just wondering what the main differences will be between the C6602 and T-Mobile versions?
I am perfectly fine with HSPA+ and don't live in an LTE enabled area anyways so that's not a huge concern for me. Outside of that, are there any huge differences?
P.S. For those who are using the C6602 on T-Mobile HSPA+ network, what kind of speeds should I expect?
Thanks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2302949
Wondering how the C6903 works on Rogers and if any owners are connecting with the 2600mHz LTE band or of LTE works in general?
30Seconds said:
Wondering how the C6903 works on Rogers and if any owners are connecting with the 2600mHz LTE band or of LTE works in general?
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I think canada is getting the C6906 officially, which is suppose to work with every carrier. And C6903 and C6906 are the same beside the H 265 playback according to Sony white paper. So I would say yes.
I received my C6903 today and it works on Rogers just fine with 4G but you have to manually set the APN info.
30Seconds said:
I received my C6903 today and it works on Rogers just fine with 4G but you have to manually set the APN info.
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Or ask your network to send a configuration SMS... You just click it and don't have to do anything!
Canada is (most likely) receiving the C6906 model, which has the LTE band that will for for any carrier really. After some research, Rogers, Telus and Bell all require 700 MHz band frequencies in their phones to get LTE. Wikipedia in this sense is not a viable source of information. I'm a bit lazy but here's Bell's website claiming that their phones must have 700 MHz frequencies: http://www.bell.ca/Mobility/Products/4G_LTE_SIM_card
I spoke to a Bell representative and she very explicitly told me that the version of the Z1 they are getting will have the 700 MHz frequency built in, whether or not it is the C6906 model is something the representative could not answer. As such, it is very safe to assume that Canada is indeed getting the C6906 model.
I'm excited. I'll be getting a friend to purchase the phone outright for me and just ship it over to my ass in NYC. Sure would be nice if I didn't have to wait another 9 days! Would be even nicer if I could purchase the phone myself instead of having a friend do it for me.
I am looking to buy an Xperia Z1 and have seen it on Amazon as well as other online sites. The problem is, I don't know what model to get because I live in the U.S. (Los Angeles) and want at least 3G or 4G.
musekidjose said:
I am looking to buy an Xperia Z1 and have seen it on Amazon as well as other online sites. The problem is, I don't know what model to get because I live in the U.S. (Los Angeles) and want at least 3G or 4G.
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C6902 is 3g only
C6903 has some more bands of 4g i guess a compared to c6906
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musekidjose said:
I am looking to buy an Xperia Z1 and have seen it on Amazon as well as other online sites. The problem is, I don't know what model to get because I live in the U.S. (Los Angeles) and want at least 3G or 4G.
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Hi I'm in SF under tmobile the c6903 works very well under Lte too! If I'm not wrong the 06 is better for at&t Lte but if u check in the other thread there is more than one guy using it on at&t without any issue except less Lte signal.
So C6903 is the way to go if I want to be under T-Mobile, thanks!
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C6902 uses MSM8274, C6903 uses MSM8974
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2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - all versions
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - all versions
4G Network LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - C6903
LTE 700 / 850 / 900/ 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - C6906
LTE 800 / 850 / 900/ 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - C6943
Find out the bands that your network provider uses for 4g/lte and choose accordingly
musekidjose said:
I am looking to buy an Xperia Z1 and have seen it on Amazon as well as other online sites. The problem is, I don't know what model to get because I live in the U.S. (Los Angeles) and want at least 3G or 4G.
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c6903 will give you LTE speeds on T-mobile since it supports band 4 (1700mhz) for T-mobile's LTE ,if you go for c6906 you will get band 17 (700mhz) which is used by AT&T for their LTE, along with band 4 (1700mhz) so c6906 seems a better choice if you decide to swap t-mobile and at&t sim cards,also some users have been lucky to get get LTE by using at&t sim card on their c6903 model cause apparently at&t is starting to expand or at rare times uses 1700mhz spectrum for their LTE but i wouldn't bet much on it,700mhz is their prime spectrum for LTE.Hope this helps
Okay thanks so c6906 is the way to go. Anyone have any idea where the best place to buy it is?
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Just called Sony Canada and they ship to Canada addresses only, can't ship to the U.S.
clove does the bundle for the C6903 still
musekidjose said:
Okay thanks so c6906 is the way to go. Anyone have any idea where the best place to buy it is?
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i purchased my C6903 from Clove UK. http://www.clove.co.uk/sony-xperia-z1
ordered last friday from UK and it should be delivered today, Minneapolis MN USA.
includes the smartwatch2 for free, total was around $720 w/shipping.
seamonkey420 said:
i purchased my C6903 from Clove UK. http://www.clove.co.uk/sony-xperia-z1
ordered last friday from UK and it should be delivered today, Minneapolis MN USA.
includes the smartwatch2 for free, total was around $720 w/shipping.
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Hey man. I'm in St. Cloud and was wondering if you got your phone. If so, do you have AT&T? Any luck with LTE?
yup, got it!
droidiac13 said:
Hey man. I'm in St. Cloud and was wondering if you got your phone. If so, do you have AT&T? Any luck with LTE?
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yes, i got my phone about 3 days after i placed the order. As for AT&T, i have used my work ATT in it and get 3G but haven't tested LTE. i do get LTE on Tmobile of course where it's available
not sure about ATT LTE though, it seems to be hit or miss for some.
seamonkey420 said:
yes, i got my phone about 3 days after i placed the order. As for AT&T, i have used my work ATT in it and get 3G but haven't tested LTE. i do get LTE on Tmobile of course where it's available
not sure about ATT LTE though, it seems to be hit or miss for some.
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Thanks for getting back to me! How is the camera on it? I've been reading that it doesn't have an auto mode when in the 20mp setting. Is that true?
Will they release the c6906 z1 for att?
Brooklynsour said:
Will they release the c6906 z1 for att?
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I wish, I really want this phone but not sure if the 6903 is the way to go or if 6902 is a good option too (warranty reason mainly)
Because I mix tmobile and telcel's bands not sure which will I need to buy to get lte on both or completely forget about lte
alankstiyo said:
I wish, I really want this phone but not sure if the 6903 is the way to go or if 6902 is a good option too (warranty reason mainly)
Because I mix tmobile and telcel's bands not sure which will I need to buy to get lte on both or completely forget about lte
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yea i dont even care about the lte just want the z1 for att for less than 500
Brooklynsour said:
yea i dont even care about the lte just want the z1 for att for less than 500
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650 on sony store, but maybe next week less
I know im waiting and praying this phone seems amazing, I hope since T-Mobile will push a variant out, att will follow
Hello all!
I saw that Xperia Z owners got LTE working when they flashed Xperia ZL baseband on their devices... So I was thinking about:
LTE Bands for C6903 & C6943: 800 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600
LTE Bands for C6906: 700 / 850 / 900/ 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600
My country (Brazil) have LTE working at 2600MHz on great cities, but roads and small cities will get 700MHz LTE (less expensive... bigger distance between cell sites and all that technical stuff).
I own a C6943, if I flash the baseband of C6906 on my Xperia Z1 will LTE works on both 700MHz and 2600MHz?
RHBH said:
Hello all!
I saw that Xperia Z owners got LTE working when they flashed Xperia ZL baseband on their devices... So I was thinking about:
LTE Bands for C6903 & C6943: 800 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600
LTE Bands for C6906: 700 / 850 / 900/ 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600
My country (Brazil) have LTE working at 2600MHz on great cities, but roads and small cities will get 700MHz LTE (less expensive... bigger distance between cell sites and all that technical stuff).
I own a C6943, if I flash the baseband of C6906 on my Xperia Z1 will LTE works on both 700MHz and 2600MHz?
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will someone help us with this? im too scared to flash the entire ftf onto the phone i have a c6903 i need the c6906 for at&t capabilities. I flashed just the baseband and nothing happened. i think you need the full ftf for any type of action really..i just dont want to mess up my phone right now its important to me
You can try it, but the physical modem may not be capable of (or calibrated for) the other frequencies.
It's safe to flash full FTFs - unless you interrupt it or let the battery die, the worst thing that will happen is a soft brick, which you can fix by re-flashing a working FTF. I have read about some people doing the opposite (accidentally flashing 6903 onto 6906, or 6902 onto 6903) and they only lost some channels or 4G, but were able to flash back.
This is a new device, you're probably just going to have to experiment.
xasbo said:
You can try it, but the physical modem may not be capable of (or calibrated for) the other frequencies.
It's safe to flash full FTFs - unless you interrupt it or let the battery die, the worst thing that will happen is a soft brick, which you can fix by re-flashing a working FTF. I have read about some people doing the opposite (accidentally flashing 6903 onto 6906, or 6902 onto 6903) and they only lost some channels or 4G, but were able to flash back.
This is a new device, you're probably just going to have to experiment.
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i would really love to experiment, I just dont want to loose all my data and root :? there is no generic version of .534 for the c6906 which is exactly what I need to keep root and all my mods.
teamHTC said:
i would really love to experiment, I just dont want to loose all my data and root :? there is no generic version of .534 for the c6906 which is exactly what I need to keep root and all my mods.
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Since you have root, you can TiBu or use recovery to make a complete backup, mess around, then restore when you're done. Guess it'll come down to how much you want LTE
I have a C6906 and I've been looking for a generic 534 - it doesn't exist and probably never will. I've only seen the Rogers 534. Since 534, you can uninstall all their bloat anyway, good as you'll get.
I wouldn't worry about ftf breaking your phone if you flash the wrong version. I've mixed baseband with other region ftf before with my xperia ion. In order for lte to work, I need to keep the Rogers/North American baseband on my rogers xperia ion, but I flashed a generic nordic ftf (kernel and system only) in order to get jelly bean. Combination of best of both worlds.
The reason why the Z works with the ZL baseband is because both phones support 2600 and Rogers has the 2600 frequency but for whatever reason needs the setting from the the North American baseband for everything to work correctly. There must be something slightly different with international 2600 and north american 2600. I doubt 700 will work since the c6943 doesn't support it. Also dont forget (at least up here in Canada) you need both a LTE sim card and possibly new lte APN settings for LTE to work.
I dont think you need full ftf flash either... otherwise how would my xperia ion combo work? Also its running cyanogenmod at the moment... cyanogenmod is kernel and system only (it doesn't touch baseband). As long as you have the lte sim and correct lte apn it should just work.
raginginferno said:
I wouldn't worry about ftf breaking your phone if you flash the wrong version. I've mixed baseband with other region ftf before with my xperia ion. In order for lte to work, I need to keep the Rogers/North American baseband on my rogers xperia ion, but I flashed a generic nordic ftf (kernel and system only) in order to get jelly bean. Combination of best of both worlds.
The reason why the Z works with the ZL baseband is because both phones support 2600 and Rogers has the 2600 frequency but for whatever reason needs the setting from the the North American baseband for everything to work correctly. There must be something slightly different with international 2600 and north american 2600. I doubt 700 will work since the c6943 doesn't support it. Also dont forget (at least up here in Canada) you need both a LTE sim card and possibly new lte APN settings for LTE to work.
I dont think you need full ftf flash either... otherwise how would my xperia ion combo work? Also its running cyanogenmod at the moment... cyanogenmod is kernel and system only (it doesn't touch baseband). As long as you have the lte sim and correct lte apn it should just work.
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Quick question about your idea, i want to flash a custom rom on my Z1 (the rom is 6903 based whereas my z1 is 6906). I already did and Lte works but signal is at least 2bars weaker than with 6906 rom. So what i can do is to flash a 6906 Tft, then flash over the 6903 rom while excluding baseband (to keep correct modem drivers/modules)?
Thanks for your feedback.
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The true test would me someone flashing the C6906 baseband on C6903 and test if 700MHz LTE is working or not. I can't test it because here in my country 700MHz LTE isn't deployed yet.
RHBH said:
The true test would me someone flashing the C6906 baseband on C6903 and test if 700MHz LTE is working or not. I can't test it because here in my country 700MHz LTE isn't deployed yet.
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I did that and got better LTE speeds (average 33.5 Mb) than on the standard C6943 or C6903 (17-25 Mb) FTFs.
CSL00 said:
I did that and got better LTE speeds (average 33.5 Mb) than on the standard C6943 or C6903 (17-25 Mb) FTFs.
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The speed is relative, as I said, the TRUE test is make a C6903 or C6943 work on 700MHz LTE, which my country (Brazil) don't have (yet).
I understood that, just said that despite the "correct" and "tested" C6943 ajusts the C6906 baseband works better. I also live in Brazil and I know we won't see the 700 mhz band anytime soon as they'll only be auctioning it later this year.
CSL00 said:
I understood that, just said that despite the "correct" and "tested" C6943 ajusts the C6906 baseband works better. I also live in Brazil and I know we won't see the 700 mhz band anytime soon as they'll only be auctioning it later this year.
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True story. And most manufactures seems to be neglecting the fact that Brazil will have 4G at 700MHz in less than 2 years (in the current rhythm), I can't see even one LTE phone on Brazil that works on 700MHz and 2600MHz.
There are phones that works on both bands (like C6906 or D6503 from Sony, Asian version of HTC One (M8), one version of Lumia 1520), but these models aren't the models sold on Brazil.
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True story. And most manufactures seems to be neglecting the fact that Brazil will have 4G at 700MHz in less than 2 years (in the current rhythm), I can't see even one LTE phone on Brazil that works on 700MHz and 2600MHz.
There are phones that works on both bands (like C6906 or D6503 from Sony, Asian version of HTC One (M8), one version of Lumia 1520), but these models aren't the models sold on Brazil.
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Yeah, I've got my eyes on the HTC One (M8) if for some reason the Z1 stops being good enough, but getting the asian model won't be so easy as the us or europe variants would be. If I'm not mistaken the only phone sold in Brazil that sported the 700Mhz band was the iPhone 5 and that only served to make people whine about no (local) 4G in the device lifespan.
Xperia Z1 (C6943) + CM12 = No LTE
Need help. Have a Xperia Z1 (C6943) with Official CyanogenMod 12 and can't get 4g connection.
Have already played with the network configurations without success. Tested my simcard in a Xperia Z2 with Sony firmware and it got 4g connection.
Don't know what else to try and don't wanto to move back to Sony's firmware.
Any ideas?