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Just got the Bionic. I have the Thunderbolt in my had the past few months and was excited about giving the Bionic a try. Went to set up my Corp Exchange ...worked fine ...went to set sync all dates ...and WTF!!! 30 days .. what a joke. Anyone know a work around to sync all dates. Not in high school! Otherwise the phone goes back.
Doesn't seem to be, I don't see why it's a big deal...you can continue searches on the server if you need to find something. It just doesn't actively sync more than 30 days to conserve power when connecting to pull data.
Case in point ..I've been working on a divestiture deal since Feb 11. I have around 300 emails that should show up in my in box from various companies, as is my desk top. When I'm on the speaker phone browsing my inbox, why should I have to search a "smart phone" to see our email communications. Blackberry and Iphones have no problems. Some should find the number "30" days and change it to "999". Then I would keep phone and root
Btw, search server did work ..thanks for the tip ..someone please figure out where to change that 30 to 999!
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Case in point ..I've been working on a divestiture deal since Feb 11. I have around 300 emails that should show up in my in box from various companies, as is my desk top. When I'm on the speaker phone browsing my inbox, why should I have to search a "smart phone" to see our email communications. Blackberry and Iphones have no problems. Some should find the number "30" days and change it to "999". Then I would keep phone and root
Btw, search server did work ..thanks for the tip ..someone please figure out where to change that 30 to 999!
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Just a suggestion (not a solution), but purchase Touchdown for Android. It is well worth the $$ if you require a very robust Exchange experience. When I bought the Droid X (when it first came out), I purchased Touchdown and have not looked back... so many features, filters, searches, and other options!
tpcastelli said:
Just got the Bionic. I have the Thunderbolt in my had the past few months and was excited about giving the Bionic a try. Went to set up my Corp Exchange ...worked fine ...went to set sync all dates ...and WTF!!! 30 days .. what a joke. Anyone know a work around to sync all dates. Not in high school! Otherwise the phone goes back.
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Um... fix this for me now or I'm sending the phone back?
Android is a self-service station my friend. It may take a bit more effort, but you'll get that evergreen glow of accomplishment.
I have to agree with the OP. The limitation is a bit too "big brotherish" for my tastes, and it assumes way too much. For example, does it occur to Motorola that some people sit on planes for 4-6 hours at a time, and might find that answering email messages (even old ones) is a great way to utilize that time?
If they're using battery savings as the rationale behind this, there are likely many other things (like their bloatware...or BLUR) that they can tweak to provide savings that do not make ridiculous assumptions.
Yes, there are other Exchange solutions available. But if one buys a handset with the knowledge that there is a solution, having to spend more on software is silly.
Joel
I agree ..thank you. Is there anyone who can write a script to change the number 30 to 500 or 700, assuming I root the phone. I would donate if so. Phones I have that SYN ALL! : Droid Charge, HTC Thunderbolt, Samsung Gallaxy s2, Iphone, Infuse, EVO 3D GSM and I'm sure the list goes on. The DroidX2 does the same as the Bionic. Any programers willing to jump on this?
jbhorner said:
Yes, there are other Exchange solutions available. But if one buys a handset with the knowledge that there is a solution, having to spend more on software is silly.
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To be honest, if you want a phone that excels doing Exchange email/calendar items, go with a RIM phone. If you want a phone that has an extra long batter life, go with the iPhone. If you want a phone that is very customizable, a king of nothing, but prince of many things, then go with an Android.
I purchased Touchdown over 2 years ago when I switched from a Blackberry to an Android to help ease my way. I have seen a return on my investment as my phone now outperforms my co-worker's Windows and Blackberry phones when it comes to corporate email.
Would it be nice for an Android to have a good Exchange software? Yes. I have NEVER bought a phone expecting it though.
Use Enhanced Email. Fast light and full if options for exchange (including removing pin mandate). Multiple email account support
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I would consider getting a software app to do a ONE TIME sync from outlook to Android (that will get all your old email yadda yadda)
Here is one thought from Google
https://www.google.com/support/calendar/bin/answer.py?answer=98563
http://www.fjsoft.at/en/ has gotten good reviews
and finally a good recommended PAID app
http://www.synccell.com/
tpcastelli said:
Just got the Bionic. I have the Thunderbolt in my had the past few months and was excited about giving the Bionic a try. Went to set up my Corp Exchange ...worked fine ...went to set sync all dates ...and WTF!!! 30 days .. what a joke. Anyone know a work around to sync all dates. Not in high school! Otherwise the phone goes back.
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I use enhanced email from the market I works flawlessly for me. It's the best app I have bought to this date. I used it on my OG Incredible and now the the BIONIC!
This is a change in Motoblur. Three original Droid X allowed "all", and it appears Motorola our Verizon forced the change to just 30
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lxadoz104 said:
This is a change in Motoblur. Three original Droid X allowed "all", and it appears Motorola our Verizon forced the change to just 30
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Yet another "MotorBLAH" feature... (sigh)
I hope Google can fix Motorola Androids... they are a great phone (physicially), but their Blur UI leaves a ton to be desired compared to others.
oops double posted sorry.
If you are unhappy in the little support we have in terms of roms, and kernels for our device, blame Motorola for locking their bootloader. Moto claimed that they would unlock the bootloader at the end of 2011. What's the date today? Looks like they changed their mind. We would have a fully working ICS rom if it wasn't for Moto not to mention Hashcode would have more hair and it would have less gray in it... So sign the petition! If you are really passionate, like me, check out the original thread and help them out. If ASUS caved, so will Moto!
Original Thread:
OPERATION: Make Ourselves Heard (#OPMOSH)
Blogs/News:
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jesusishere said:
Moto claimed that they would unlock the bootloader at the end of 2011.
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Do you have a link to this claim of unlocking bootloaders in late 2011? The best link I can see is http://developer.motorola.com/products/software/ which doesn't seem to say that.
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Do you have a link to this claim of unlocking bootloaders in late 2011? The best link I can see is http://developer.motorola.com/products/software/ which doesn't seem to say that.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ices-to-have-unlockablerelockable-bootloader/
this was the first article from google search. If ya need more references just type in motorola unlock bootloaders 2011 on google. That has a quote though so i assumes its enough. hope to see our device unlocked !
Sign the petition people!
Signed.
Looks like well over 3000 ppl thus far, wonder how many we need for Moto to raise an eye brow.
-smc
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In my 29 years I've never seen a company like moto actually give a poop about a petition.
Just sayin.
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I doubt it will work to but trying cant hurt =]
jediman said:
In my 29 years I've never seen a company like moto actually give a poop about a petition.
Just sayin.
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Petitioning got HTC and Asus to provide methods to unlock their bootloaders. It also got Verizon to recall that $2 bill paying fee. This IS the way to get companies of this size to do what you want, you have to provide them a real number of dissatisfied customers and a petition does just that.
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Petitioning got HTC and Asus to provide methods to unlock their bootloaders. It also got Verizon to recall that $2 bill paying fee. This IS the way to get companies of this size to do what you want, you have to provide them a real number of dissatisfied customers and a petition does just that.
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The best thing we could all do to get moto to listen up is make this our last purchase of a moto device until they offer them with unlocked bootloaders. This along with a few other issues have pretty much insured this is my last purchase of a motorola phone. Companies of this size are a lot more likely to do something to please customers if they start leaving in droves, they'll come up with an idea like ... unlocked bootloaders to attract new customers.
Willis111 said:
The best thing we could all do to get moto to listen up is make this our last purchase of a moto device until they offer them with unlocked bootloaders. This along with a few other issues have pretty much insured this is my last purchase of a motorola phone. Companies of this size are a lot more likely to do something to please customers if they start leaving in droves, they'll come up with an idea like ... unlocked bootloaders to attract new customers.
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I've signed the petition as well, but regardless of their future actions, I will never buy another Motorola product EVER again.
The only thing that will ever lead to any changes is if they see a drop in the bottom line.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ices-to-have-unlockablerelockable-bootloader/
this was the first article from google search. If ya need more references just type in motorola unlock bootloaders 2011 on google. That has a quote though so i assumes its enough. hope to see our device unlocked !
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/04/26/motorola-says-2011-devices-to-have-unlockablerelockable-bootloader said:
It is our intention to enable the unlockable/relockable bootloader currently found on Motorola XOOM across our portfolio of devices starting in late 2011, where carriers and operators will allow it.
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http://developer.motorola.com/products/software/ said:
It is our intention to offer an unlockable/relockable bootloader, currently found on MOTOROLA XOOM, in future software releases starting in late 2011 where operator and channel partners will allow it
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Okay, so MOTODEV's text is a little different. MOTODEV references "future software releases", while the AndroidPolice text references "across our portfolio of devices".
Of course, that difference only affects users who never get any future software releases, since they're not going to get an unlockable bootloader in a new software release if there is no new software release.
I dunno about you, but I haven't received any software releases in or since late 2011 that _didn't_ include an unlockable bootloader. I guess only the Bell XT860 users in this forum have had one such chance go by unaddressed.
Anyway, it's certainly as qualified a statement with a projected start date, which people seem to have mentally morphed into some kind of promise with a due date.
Nothing here that'd make me drop Motorola as a brand. That said, I _would_ choose a four-row keyboard device with an unlocked bootloader by preference. But not because of any promise or lack thereof of an unlocked bootloader in the ephemeral future.
Looks like someone came across a factory unlocked RAZR.
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/400-ap-fastboot-mode-se-says-device-is-unlocked/page__st__20
There may be a small possibility here.
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Looks like someone came across a factory unlocked RAZR.
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/400-ap-fastboot-mode-se-says-device-is-unlocked/page__st__20
There may be a small possibility here.
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Maybe this is Motorola's "plan" for providing an unlock solution. They're just going to send out one unlocked phone into the wild and we have to find it! It's kind of like the McDonalds monopoly game except when one person wins, we all win.
I for one will not buy another motorola phone simply because of all the hype. Had they followed suite along with their competition and at least released current statements (or something) regarding the issue, I might have a different opinion. I purchased 2 d3's and 2 dx2's ASSuming we would be able to unlock these things. I have since ordered 4 G-Nex's to replace the moto's. They will be completely taken out of circulation simply because I can and it's my "right" as an american to do so. As you can probably tell, I'm pretty ticked off about it. It's nothing more than the principle of it that's got my feathers ruffled. We bought them, if we wish to void the warranty, that should be our business. I've signed the petition (#1654). Maybe it will help you guys out in the future. But I'm also of the opinion that moto doesn't care all that much for the small group of us that have a voice. I guess I don't have to support them as well.
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It's nothing more than the principle of it that's got my feathers ruffled. We bought them, if we wish to void the warranty, that should be our business.
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Indeed, seems more like a bait and switch and leaves a bit of a bad taste in my mouth. I know they didn't really say they would be unlocking all their bootloaders or anything and the XOOM does seem like progress but I was hoping for a little more of a flood or something like s/e offers with a bootloader unlock offered on their websites for phones that are shipped sim-unlocked (operator allowing).
Signed!. Please moto unlock our bootloaders..
Unlock your bootloaders, its open source!!!! Come on....
They have to unlock it... i mean it!
signed!
Just saw on the dx2 thread that some moto employee is going to leak some files to Hascode for unlocking moto bootloaders! Hopefully this ist a hoax
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Just saw on the dx2 thread that some moto employee is going to leak some files to Hascode for unlocking moto bootloaders! Hopefully this ist a hoax
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this sounds way to good to be true so i wouldn't bet money on it
I just got an email from that China middleman back from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/verizon-moto-maker-bootloader-unlock-t2680651
Titled: moto bootloader work back 2014/05/15
Subject: price：45usd paypal:[email protected] notes:IMEI+ email !!!! in 12-48H reply
Its $5 more and he's saying hes back!
I have emailed him and I will post results but im very hopeful!
Edit: ONLY AVAILABLE FOR 2014 DEVICES
and some 2013 if your lucky
F.A.Q.
I think a recap is due...
Some background... For the Developer Editions Moto X, and some carrier editions (Like T-Mobile, Sprint, Rogers Wireless, and others), Motorola freely gives away the BootLoader Unlock codes when requested On Motorola's Web Site. In the case of the Non-Developer Editions, it voids their warranty to request the code.
I'm not going to go into the reasons why, but Moto does NOT give out the bootloader unlock code for the Retail and Moto Maker X for Verizon, ATT and a few other carriers. That is where this China Middle Man, and the Chinese web site/seller, comes in... Its a way to possibly get your bootloader unlock code if Moto can't/wont give it to you. If you are successful in getting your code from the Middle Man, it will be exactly like the code you would have received from Moto, except for the cost and the source.
If your X is NOT from Verizon, ATT, or Republic wireless, its worth checking Motorola's Web Site first, as either way voids your warranty when your phone is not a developer edition. If you can't get the bootloader unlock code from Motorola, then this China Middleman is your only other option right now (and for who knows how long).
What phones does this work with?
Based on replies and posts to this thread, it has been confirmed to work for most, but not all, Moto X, Droid Maxx, Droid Mini and G which have been assembled between January and June 2014 that have been submitted. Some others assembled out-side that range have been reported to work.
Republic Wireless X assembled in 2013 have had a fair success rate, at least enough that it is worth trying.
Since the middle man has restarted selling codes, users with Moto X from Verizon, ATT that were assembled in 2013 have rarely been able to receive a code. So you can try, but you will likely get a "no code available" response.
Update 10-21-2014: As time goes on, we are seeing an increase in post from users who have been "unsuccessful." (either they couldn't get a code, or the code they got didn't work). Its still worth a try.
This does NOT work for the 2nd Generation X or the "2014 Moto X" with the 5.2" screen.
Does it matter what ROM is on my phone?
Unlike using hacks and exploits to root, when using a Bootloader Unlock Code (from Moto or the Middle Man) your phone can be on ANY firmware version. Updates will not patch the ability to use the bootloader unlock code. And future Updates will NOT LOCK your bootloader.
On the Moto X, to find your assembled date...
Boot into FastbootAP/Bootloader mode
Option 1: power off, then press the power and volume down buttons simultaneously NOTE: you may need to have the USB cable disconnected first.
Option 2: If USB debugging option on your phone is turned on, and you have a properly setup ADB, AndroidSDK Platform tools, and moto drivers on your pc... Open a command prompt and type... adb reboot-bootloader The phone will restart into the bootloader/fastboot menu.
Option 3: You must already be rooted: you can use an application like Quick Boot (Reboot) which is available for free in the Google Play Store. It has options to reboot your phone normally, reboot into recovery, or reboot into bootloader.
Once on the FastbootAP/Booloader screen, Use the VOL DOWN to scroll and highlight Bar Codes, then use VOL UP to select it. There will be a date listed there. (use vol up or vol down to exit the screen).
How long will this be an option? or... How long will the China Middleman continue offering the codes?
We don't have any insight on that. When the China web site, and then middleman, originally started it was up for a while, then suddenly and without warning, stopped on April 1. When it restarted, this thread was born, and it has been going ever since. However, this time around, we've seen a lower success rate with getting codes.
How to send a request/payment..
The price is 45usd. (he will receive slightly less due to fees)
Send Paypal for goods/services to [email protected]
In the notes, include your IMEI and Email.
NOTE: be sure to use Goods/Services so you can dispute if you have any issues. Payment sent as GIFT can NOT be disputed!
How long does it take to get my code, or get a response?
Response times have varied from less than an hour, to almost a week. So be patient. If its been over a week, you can try to add the person to Skype and message.
I got a response that my code wasn't available. Now what?
Usually he refunds the money when replying your code wasn't available. If not, you'll need to file a PayPal dispute.
If your phone is only two or three weeks old, you can try waiting a month, try again and see if he gets a new batch of codes which contains yours.
Otherwise, you are out of luck.
UPDATE: You can try Sunshine which is being discussed in -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/request-help-exploit-moto-x-bl-t2828471 That thread has the information, link to the Sunshine tool, and discussion.
Sunshine only works with certain ROM versions, but when it works on your phone it DOES UNLOCK the bootloader just like using the code would.
If Sunshine doesn't work, then you are out of luck.
I got my code, now what?
Most emailed responses containing the code have included your IMEI code and unique unlock code. The unlock code is 20 digits long and is case sensitive. Please Copy/Paste when using it, rather than typing it.
Back up your phone! the Bootloader Unlock process WILL WIPE all data, apps, settings, etc!! BACK UP FIRST!!
Make sure you have a working Android SDK/PlatformTools/ADB setup
Boot your phone into FastbootAP/Bootloader mode
Connect your phone to your PC via USB cord
From a command prompt on your PC issue the following command... fastboot oem unlock UniqueCode NOTE: please replace "UniqueCode" with a copy/paste of your code from the email!
after the process is successful, your phone will reboot and you will see the Unlocked Bootloader warning logo.
For a more detailed or novice friendly set of instructions, see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Unlocking.htm
Keep your code in a safe place. While there should be no need to relock the bootloader, if you ever need to unlock the bootloader again, you'll use that same code.
So now that I've unlocked my phone, is it now the same as a "Developer Edition"?
For all intents and purposes, Yes. From the standpoint of rooting, flashing, custom roms, hacks, etc. You can use the same instructions and do the same things. The same caveats and rules that apply to a developer edition, apply to you.
Unlike a developer edition, your warranty will be voided because you've unlocked your bootoader (if the warranty provider notices you've unlocked your bootloader).
So now that I've unlocked my phone, HOW DO I ROOT?
Download the latest TWRP Recovery from -> http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/234 (under the Download-Fastboot heading) and the latest SuperSU from -> http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu or the latest CWM / TWRP / MobileODIN installable ZIP from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
And use them while following the instructions in this post -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/step-step-instructions-unlocking-t2649738
Thats great, but I still have questions...
When this first came about, I put together this post in the old thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51363645&postcount=394
I've added to it, clarified a few things and re-posted here -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Unlock1.htm
Those two versions contain pretty much all of the questions/answers I've seen asked.
EDITED: Aug 13, 2014 Reason: added Background, Moved "what phones does it work with.." section, added "Does it matter what rom.." section, and added rooting info
EDITED: Aug 28, 2014 Reason: moved "how long a response could take" to its own section so it stands out more
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Slick52 said:
I know it's a big unknown, but what are the chances these guys will have unlock codes for the X+1? My parents are about to renew, but they will need 1 unlocked hotspot for an unlimited plan. With Aug 20th supposedly being the release date, 2weeks away, should they wait for the +1?
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Nothing will be known until the X+1 comes out and someone tries to unlock it.
And this service could stop at any time.
My advice is something I got flamed in this thread for in the past.. but since you asked... Since you'll have to pay full price anyway (to keep unlimited data) Consider getting a Dev Edition X for Verizon while they are still on sale for $324.99. Its definately cheaper than buying a full price X+1 when they come out, and you can certainly unlock the bootloader without voiding the warranty.
Tag for outcome.
I got the email as well. We'll see what happens!
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Everyone who didn't get on the first boat, I would recommend jumping on this asap (if he's really back.) Nothing like having a self made Dev edition and complete freedom with nowhere near full retail cost.
Screw it, Im in. Not waiting around and getting left behind this time.
Yep, got an email from him this morning as well (should be 40+ of us since he has no idea how to use bcc). Stopped what I was doing and sent the payment & info. Will also post any results.
Might I remind everyone who is doing this to send payment as goods/services this time - the people who sent as a gift couldn't get a refund last time.....
edit: also wanted to mention that i went from 10-20 spam emails a day to over a hundred after emailing this dude the last time..... so use a junk email address you don't care about.
The original link does not seem to work for me. Can someone confirm the URL?
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The original link does not seem to work for me. Can someone confirm the URL?
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just do what the instructions in the first post of this thread say. send paypal payment of $45 to that address with IMEI and email address in the notes.
Duh. Thanks! Payment sent and fingers crossed.
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just do what the instructions in the first post of this thread say. send paypal payment of $45 to that address with IMEI and email address in the notes.
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He just responded to me. Apparently the 2013 models aren't in the database. He's initiated a refund for me.
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bummer.. guess this means i need to initiate a refund:
"2013 production was not found in the database machine, I will refund initiated paypal dispute
Can't find 2013, the data do not know where to put, no way"
edit: second email to the bigger group:
"moto bl Notice
Can't find 2013, the data do not know where to put, no way
2014 100% ok"
mohlsen8 said:
bummer.. guess this means i need to initiate a refund:
"2013 production was not found in the database machine, I will refund initiated paypal dispute
Can't find 2013, the data do not know where to put, no way"
edit: second email to the bigger group:
"moto bl Notice
Can't find 2013, the data do not know where to put, no way
2014 100% ok"
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So, sounds like there's still an opening for devices made this year? Seems very strange, but I guess promising for the minority of people who have newer-issued devices. I bought mine on swappa, so I have no clue whether it would be included in the 2013 or 2014 group. If I had bought it in 2013, I'd probably do my best to get an on-warranty replacement any way I could.
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So, sounds like there's still an opening for devices made this year? Seems very strange, but I guess promising for the minority of people who have newer-issued devices. I bought mine on swappa, so I have no clue whether it would be included in the 2013 or 2014 group. If I had bought it in 2013, I'd probably do my best to get an on-warranty replacement any way I could.
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it's really weird. with how flaky this situation has been, it's not even worth trying that, this could be closed up again pretty quickly.. if the dude can even get 2014 codes. strange..
btw you should probably be able to find a manufacture date or something somewhere, i dunno.
so did any other 2013's file a dispute yet? i'm pretty sure that's what he meant, that we do that and he refunds - that's how it worked last time. i didn't do it yet just on the small chance he figures it out or something, who knows. i sent him an email asking for more info but haven't gotten a response.
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it's really weird. with how flaky this situation has been, it's not worth even trying that, this could be closed up again pretty quickly.. if the dude can even get 2014 codes. strange..
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I mean, is he refunding your money? If the dude is in good faith it sounds like there's no harm in trying because if it doesn't work you can get your money back. If not, is there any way we can find out what devices he has access to codes for? I am looking into finding info on manufacture dates but running into a lot of dead ends. Anyone have any ideas? That way people could check beforehand and save themselves the trouble.
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I mean, is he refunding your money? If the dude is in good faith it sounds like there's no harm in trying because if it doesn't work you can get your money back. If not, is there any way we can find out what devices he has access to codes for? I am looking into finding info on manufacture dates but running into a lot of dead ends. Anyone have any ideas? That way people could check beforehand and save themselves the trouble.
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Only place I would think to check would be the barcode sticker on the box that has IMEI etc. Otherwise you'd probably have to rip the phone apart to find it somewhere.
But yes, when this went belly up a month ago, the bunch of us who had money out to him, as long as you sent the paypal money as goods/services (and not gift) you could file a dispute with paypal and he was immediately refunding people when you did that. The others who sent money as gifts to try to help him out with paypal fees ended up getting screwed because they couldn't dispute it and he didn't respond to any emails asking for refunds - you had to go through a paypal dispute, but then he was very quick to issue it.
All that shadiness aside, if you send it for goods/services, I think you're fine trying.
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Only place I would think to check would be the barcode sticker on the box that has IMEI etc. Otherwise you'd probably have to rip the phone apart to find it somewhere.
But yes, when this went belly up a month ago, the bunch of us who had money out to him, as long as you sent the paypal money as goods/services (and not gift) you could file a dispute with paypal and he was immediately refunding people when you did that. The others who sent money as gifts to try to help him out with paypal fees ended up getting screwed because they couldn't dispute it and he didn't respond to any emails asking for refunds - you had to go through a paypal dispute, but then he was very quick to issue it.
All that shadiness aside, if you send it for goods/services, I think you're fine trying.
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Interesting. It's cool to see consumer safeguards working as they're intended--if he's not giving out any refunds for "gift" payments he's not interested in the ethics, just his standing with PayPal. Love it when these systems work the way they should.
I bought my X online through swappa; the guy sent it in the original box... just looked at the sticker, and nope, looks like august of 2013. Looks like I'm still out of luck. :/
I have a 2013-purchased Moto X and sent over the $45 (prior to seeing the messages above) as a Goods/Service at 11am EST. I will update this thread with any messages I receive. Fingers crossed! I'd love to know what is going on behind-the-scenes with where this database is coming from, why would 2014 work but not 2013, etc.
DogzOfWar said:
I have a 2013-purchased Moto X and sent over the $45 (prior to seeing the messages above) as a Goods/Service at 11am EST. I will update this thread with any messages I receive. Fingers crossed! I'd love to know what is going on behind-the-scenes with where this database is coming from, why would 2014 work but not 2013, etc.
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please do. i'm waiting for some feedback before i request a refund, even it if may be hopeless for us.
I, unfortunately, paid as a gift. I have a 2014 so maybe I'll get lucky. I'll post my results.
This is a petition that was originally posted by davidstre. he made it for the verizon s5 and i copied it for AT&T. All credit due to davidstre for the hard work on the wording of this petition. Please sign and maybe it will get the word out that there is a community of people who are willing to give up the warranty to get an unlocked bootloader.
To quote Russ77 - "i know there's been campaigns where members email-bomb or petition Samsung/ATT/Verizon to unlock our devices 'because we bought them and deserve it'; however if its under some form of contract (2 year, next, or edge) we didn't really buy them...
due to my line of work and who I work for (not any of the above) so I can understand and appreciate why this situation exists, to a) mitigate risks of warranty claims, and b) make the devices more marketable to corporate customers needing the security of a locked boot loader and Knox. so perhaps a different approach is needed?
what if we all nicely and professionally petitioned for a setup similar to HTC? this allows us non-corp customers with account responsibility register for unlock, thus absolving Samsung/ATT/Verizon of any future potential warranty claim or technical service call or visit? simply enter the carrier, #, and IMEI and viola. this could work because there is always a risk of finding root thus there will always be a dollar amount associated. if we waive our warranties in exchange - the risk and associated $$ is removed." Thank you Russ77 for this great description of how allot of us feel.
Please sign this and maybe we can get a message out to the powers that be at AT&T.
http://www.change.org/petitions/ran...axy-s5-users-unlocked-bootloader-upon-request
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Don't want to be the negative one here but it didn't and hasn't worked for Note 3 what makes you think it'll work for S5? Once my contract is over I'm moving to T-Mobile or sticking with any unlocked Google phone they come out with.
Knight-Rider said:
Don't want to be the negative one here but it didn't and hasn't worked for Note 3 what makes you think it'll work for S5? Once my contract is over I'm moving to T-Mobile or sticking with any unlocked Google phone they come out with.
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I was just thinking about this. Has this ever actually worked with any carrier?
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Knight-Rider said:
Don't want to be the negative one here but it didn't and hasn't worked for Note 3 what makes you think it'll work for S5? Once my contract is over I'm moving to T-Mobile or sticking with any unlocked Google phone they come out with.
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Signed, just curious how many people signed for the note 3,do you have a rough idea?Tmobiles service sucks around here or I'd think about switching,I think if any phone has a shot at a petition working it's the s5 it's already out sold almost every phone,and a lot of apple users have been jumping ship,but not enough people know or understand what rooting a phone is,that's the only problem I see.So everyone who's signed share it on your Facebook feed.
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joshnielsen said:
I was just thinking about this. Has this ever actually worked with any carrier?
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Not that I'm aware of to be honest with you, AT&T executives don't give a **** about us, they make their money regardless. Look at the incident that happened I believe a few month ago. An upset customer sent an email to AT&T CEO and he received a letter in the mail to stop or they would send him a cease and desist and also threatened to sue him, lol I think that was the most cowardly thing AT&T CEO could've done.
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Signed, just curious how many people signed for the note 3,do you have a rough idea?Tmobiles service sucks around here or I'd think about switching,I think if any phone has a shot at a petition working it's the s5 it's already out sold almost every phone,and a lot of apple users have been jumping ship,but not enough people know or understand what rooting a phone is,that's the only problem I see.So everyone who's signed share it on your Facebook feed.
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Here you go https://www.change.org/petitions/ra...nk&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition
T-Mobile is as good if not better than AT&T in my area, it's actually improved in the last 2 years. And yes you're right not many people understand or know how to root a device even if provided step by step instructions lol. Not many people care about rooting phones though, I do though I like the fact we can customize to our liking.
Well, I've found by some luck this webpage https://www.theandroidsoul.com/psa-...i-and-honor-devices-again-for-a-limited-time/
and by using this link (which is in the article) https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc-9aGLywzV2I4wnuExrgvzrgd3J4rePj95vhMw_aSLDGI9ow/viewform
You can ask for the bootloader unlock code. Perhaps.
I've written there today and will update when, or if I get my own unlock code.
Thanks for this info !
Just filled and sent the form. Fingers crossed !
Be careful to what form you send your IMEI number to, since IMEI number shall not land into wrong hands. If some 1 made this form just so they can get your IMEI number then you won't be happy, they can do anything with it. All from claiming the phone is stolen so it becomes banned to all carrier networks around earth and much more. So never fill out custom forms that does not come from manufacture themselves.
Is this function ?
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Be careful to what form you send your IMEI number to, since IMEI number shall not land into wrong hands. If some 1 made this form just so they can get your IMEI number then you won't be happy, they can do anything with it. All from claiming the phone is stolen so it becomes banned to all carrier networks around earth and much more. So never fill out custom forms that does not come from manufacture themselves.
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I'd be happy to get my first IMEI banned, since I'm using only single SIM which can be put into the second slot, if it gets the phone unlocked. I'm sitting here for two months looking for ways to get the phone unlocked and since the dc-unlocker, octoplus and anyone else can still do sh*t with the phone, this might just be the way... I dont' know if it is someone who works at huawei and have the generator or whatever... But I'd like to believe that.
i try and am waiting
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I'd be happy to get my first IMEI banned, since I'm using only single SIM which can be put into the second slot, if it gets the phone unlocked. I'm sitting here for two months looking for ways to get the phone unlocked and since the dc-unlocker, octoplus and anyone else can still do sh*t with the phone, this might just be the way... I dont' know if it is someone who works at huawei and have the generator or whatever... But I'd like to believe that.
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i dont think it works like that, it's true that we have 2 imei, one for each sim, but they're linked. blocking the main imei will block the 2nd too.
mines differs only in 2 digits,that must mean something imho
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i dont think it works like that, it's true that we have 2 imei, one for each sim, but they're linked. blocking the main imei will block the 2nd too.
mines differs only in 2 digits,that must mean something imho
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That seems logical, but since I have every paper that says that I have bought this phone from official shop I don't worry about anything kinky going on.
You guys know thats only for Honor right?
Honor USA, took a leap of faith in the xda community and they will be unlocking bootloaders again for a limited time only for XDA.
Not Huawei, only HONOR.
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i dont think it works like that, it's true that we have 2 imei, one for each sim, but they're linked. blocking the main imei will block the 2nd too.
mines differs only in 2 digits,that must mean something imho
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They are not linked. A carrier is only given a block of IMEIs from a manufacturer, which is provided by CTIA. Two in the block go to your phone. If your primary IMEI is duplicated, there is no way to link that to 2nd from the network side.
I also sent my info, hope doesn't get in the wrong way In the article say that's for both Huawei and Honor. Regards!
don't send your IMEI in to a site like that.
In other news Honor is going to allow some bootloaders to be unlocked for a small period of time, apparently the pre-requisites are to have an XDA account.
First come first server.
Huawei hasn't done the same but it's good news and the first signs of any kind of backtrack until now.
ontopic: I wouldn't put my IMEI anywhere but to my insurers.
But your call.
EDIT: Actually i believe this is an incorrect article, Honor are going to be allowing some
See here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ho...t/honor-bootloader-unlocking-limited-t3837880
It's only for Honor: Officially anyway.
dladz said:
don't send your IMEI in to a site like that.
In other news Honor is going to allow some bootloaders to be unlocked for a small period of time, apparently the pre-requisites are to have an XDA account.
First come first server.
Huawei hasn't done the same but it's good news and the first signs of any kind of backtrack until now.
ontopic: I wouldn't put my IMEI anywhere but to my insurers.
But your call.
EDIT: Actually i believe this is an incorrect article, Honor are going to be allowing some
See here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ho...t/honor-bootloader-unlocking-limited-t3837880
It's only for Honor: Officially anyway.
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They are officially separated so much, that even bootloader unlock code generators are not the same? Since (at least I believe so), they produce the phones in same factories and the phones have similar specs, these "two" companies are both under the Huawei.
Still I'd like to believe they will send the code, or at least provide some information about it.
And by the way, don't you know, why did they all of sudden started to giveaway codes? Could it be provided from Huawei aswell?
I don't know if it this, that some individual from XDA convinced someone from Honor to giveaway codes, or if it's some kind of Honor's initiative.
i spoke to huawei and they confirm that this form/link is not official by them. If they going to allow temporarly unlock of bootloader again then it will be a form through their own website and never through a google form.
So simply some private person made this form just to get peoples IMEI. Which is really risky.
Secondly Honor is Huawei's their daughter company or w.e you call it, so if Honor is going to allow limited time of bootloader unlock then they will probably provide a official form through their website and not through google form. Unless it's being linked from honor's website itself to a google form then it's official.
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They are officially separated so much, that even bootloader unlock code generators are not the same? Since (at least I believe so), they produce the phones in same factories and the phones have similar specs, these "two" companies are both under the Huawei.
Still I'd like to believe they will send the code, or at least provide some information about it.
And by the way, don't you know, why did they all of sudden started to giveaway codes? Could it be provided from Huawei aswell?
I don't know if it this, that some individual from XDA convinced someone from Honor to giveaway codes, or if it's some kind of Honor's initiative.
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Since the news broke that Huawei and it's sister honor were to stop giving these codes away and essentially turn our nice devices into apples which are locked down a lot of people all over the world have shown their obvious mood to this decision and XDA has been key in those discussions, I'm not sure if this is the reason for the sudden change in heart but i would like to think so.
XDA and it's users who love a tinker and have done so much for the android world should be listened to in all honesty.
My guess is that huawei is allowing honor first on a temp basis until they see the reaction and then huawei may or may not follow suit.
Personally i think the numbers will be quite low so i dont believe huawei will commit to allowing people to unlock their phones.
Such a shame.
this needs to be bumpoed i stumbled across this thank you lord for this woot woot
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i spoke to huawei and they confirm that this form/link is not official by them. If they going to allow temporarly unlock of bootloader again then it will be a form through their own website and never through a google form.
So simply some private person made this form just to get peoples IMEI. Which is really risky.
Secondly Honor is Huawei's their daughter company or w.e you call it, so if Honor is going to allow limited time of bootloader unlock then they will probably provide a official form through their website and not through google form. Unless it's being linked from honor's website itself to a google form then it's official.
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It is absolutely legit. If you spoke to Huawei, then you almost certainly spoke to their l1 support, who are notoriously useless and totally uninformed.
It is for Honor devices only though. It was publicised here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ho.../honor-bootloader-unlocking-limited-t3837880/
The original process before they stopped it was also the very same Google form.
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It is absolutely legit. If you spoke to Huawei, then you almost certainly spoke to their l1 support, who are notoriously useless and totally uninformed.
It is for Honor devices only though. It was publicised here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ho.../honor-bootloader-unlocking-limited-t3837880/
The original process before they stopped it was also the very same Google form.
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They can still be telling truth, it would be redicolous for a manufacture to use a google form to allow temp unlocks, when they used official website page of theirs before for official unlocks.
So right now i doubt whatever person said is not bs atm. I would still be careful to the google form one just incase.
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......they used official website page of theirs before for official unlocks...
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Nope, they used a Google form. The very same one.
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Nope, they used a Google form. The very same one.
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wrong, for huawei devices they used official website made by huawei.
they did not use google form. But for Honor devices they probably used google form, but huawei can still not confirm this form is official by them.