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sorry if it has been posted but I'm posting from my Note 3 so it's hard to search. But will we have full functionality with the Gear if we run AOSP on our phones? Or even better is there a possibility of getting custom roms on the gear? I'm still on the fence on getting the gear or not because I always wind up leaving TW and running AOSP so I was concerned.
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sorry if it has been posted but I'm posting from my Note 3 so it's hard to search. But will we have full functionality with the Gear if we run AOSP on our phones? Or even better is there a possibility of getting custom roms on the gear? I'm still on the fence on getting the gear or not because I always wind up leaving TW and running AOSP so I was concerned.
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I have this very same question, I believe it will be possible to a certain degree..
I own a S4, running CM10.2, Iv downloaded the gear manager apk and installed it on my phone.. it does fail installing the library's, although it does generate the library .apks on the sdcard located in a /Gear directory. So I have been manually installing them.
I believe the call functions will work fine, along with customizing the clock faces, although in terms of notifications etc. I cant be certain..
As for custom roms for the gear, I believe this will be possible in the future. After all the gear does run its own dedicated firmware, so it wouldn't be that hard.
I dont actually own a gear just yet, I may be going out today and purchasing one. If the gear generates enough interest from developers you can bet your ass there will be 100% compatibility with AOSP roms in the future.. You may have to use some third party apps but Im quite certain it will be possible.
Hopefully someone who owns a gear can confirm some of the working features at the moment with AOSP!
Well, for FULL compatibility, you need touchwiz... (or parts of it)
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Well, for FULL compatibility, you need touchwiz... (or parts of it)
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Correct, I see from your signature you own a i9505..
Are you running touchwiz or aosp ?
I'm curious to know if notifications work on AOSP or at least to a certain degree.
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Correct, I see from your signature you own a i9505..
Are you running touchwiz or aosp ?
I'm curious to know if notifications work on AOSP or at least to a certain degree.
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Stock touchwiz. will update to 4.3 over the weekend. My guess is that it'll just work as Bluetooth headset like on non-Samsung devices
i don't know if it's impossible but I hope some of our amazing devs find a way to get full functionality with AOSP even if it means using third party apps or using AOSP on the watch also. That is the only reason I haven't brought a Gear yet. Because I know regardless of how many features Samsung added to the note 3 once AOSP roms become available I will be jumping over.
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Or just port the relevant apps
It's still a nice watch with out the phone integration though
anyone tried yet ?
i've installed most if not all the apps that have been posted on this forum to a galaxy S4 running AOSP 4.3 so far i have full access to calls and some apps.. evernote, myfitnesspal, easydo, twitter feeds, facebook feeds, and watchstyler. notifications do not work and neither does weather updates. has anyone else had progress on this?
So Google just announced a new Android fork today called Android Wearables. They're partnering with every major OEM including Samsung to bring new Android Wearables-powered smartwatches to the market. The SDK Developer Previews is available NOW at http://developer.android.com/wear/index.html. How fast do we see this stuff being ported to the Gear? This is some seriously exciting stuff!
Noticed this also
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Noticed this also
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And here's the first official product too:
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2014/03/moto-360-its-time.html
EDIT: LG G Watch too: http://www.slashgear.com/lg-g-watch-detailed-as-first-android-wear-wearable-device-18321063/
good question
is that OS will work with old school galaxy gear? (non Gear2)
Samsung is moving forward without Android and if there Tizen powered Gear watch flair's well it will be Google vs. Samsung. As for the Galaxy Gear it's all but dead. The new watch is called Samsung Gear 2. dropping Galaxy from the name because Galaxy will be associated with Android based products.
My take on it is that Google's offering in its current incarnation just makes a phone easier to use. Google does not offer camera, advanced sensors, or other things that could be used for augmented reality. Samsung actually has good hardware, just that the battery technology and software haven't caught up yet.
What Google is trying to do is just provide a polished product using stuff that IS market-ready. Samsung will inevitably have to join the competition, but they might have an upper hand when battery technology and software DO catch up.
Since Samsung has had their Android Wear version of their Gear watches announced (and available for order today), what's the odds of that ROM being loaded on our Gear 1 devices? I, for one, have not gone to Tizen yet in hopes of this taking place and it seems like we are on the verge of this happening. I know it will not be an official release, but something where a rooted device would be needed.
I second ur hopes - held off on Tizen for the same reason
Whether or not Android Wear's better than Tizen all depends on which apps you use on your phone. Android Wear (like Google Now) is dependent on using Google's apps and services. Most of what Now reports off of is scraped from Gmail. I don't use Gmail or any Google apps I don't have to so Now and Android Wear are useless to me and those like me. Most corporate/professional users that use MS products, Exchange, and connect to secure networks (which typically limit apps used for personal use) aren't going to be Android Wear candidates.
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Since Samsung has had their Android Wear version of their Gear watches announced (and available for order today), what's the odds of that ROM being loaded on our Gear 1 devices? I, for one, have not gone to Tizen yet in hopes of this taking place and it seems like we are on the verge of this happening. I know it will not be an official release, but something where a rooted device would be needed.
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I'm sure it'll fit perfectly with gear 2. I see the .tar having the drivers for the watch it's a dependent of
I would be very interested in a Wear port too.
As far as I can see, not too many things have changed on the Gear live compaired to the Gear 1.
Sure, the CPU would be faster but the screen and memory size are the same.
Count me in as well, this is where xda shines.... people coming together to contribute to the common goal. Can't wait.
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How come every time someone starts a discussion inquiring about possible uses someone else feels the need to chime in why they don't need it? FYI-we don't give a rats ass about ur corporate structure-we want Android wear - go pontificate to ur secretary please
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How come every time someone starts a discussion inquiring about possible uses someone else feels the need to chime in why they don't need it? FYI-we don't give a rats ass about ur corporate structure-we want Android wear - go pontificate to ur secretary please
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I second this !!
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How come every time someone starts a discussion inquiring about possible uses someone else feels the need to chime in why they don't need it? FYI-we don't give a rats ass about ur corporate structure-we want Android wear - go pontificate to ur secretary please
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It's a discussion forum, no? Everyone here is a wearables early adopter so are interested in whatever comes next. And not everyone here uses their devices the same way or wants the same things. Other than blind fanbois who clearly have no objectivity, I enjoy hearing people's different views; even if I don't agree with them. Your post added less to this discussion than mine did. People wetting themselves over something no one here knows the functional value of (yet) is the height of fanboi-ism. Android Wear could change the world as we know it. It's going to take more than a five minute conference dog and pony for that to happen.
A discussion by folks who want wear not about discussing why someone doesn't need nor want-not a fan of any particular aspect - just bored with Gear 1-if motor 360 looks good I'll purchase, if not then wait a while
Does it only work with Samsung products, I have an invite for an one plus one I want to know if it'll work with the phone too?
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I have been waiting for Android Wear to be released. I believe it would be a wonderful fit for the galaxy gear 1. Let's not forget the functionality of the gear 1 using the Null ROM....android based. Today's conference reiterated how coding would not be that much different for normal Android code. Sounds promising to me.
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From earlier discussions and threads I believe Android wear requires a 4.4 based Rom to operate. The Gear 1 Roms and Null Rom are 4.3 based. The real hurdle will be getting a 4.4 Rom on the Gear. The Devs and contributors on XDA are very talented so with this release of the Gear Live maybe they can accomplish it.
I am curious what the battery will be like on the Gear Live with the always on features of Android wear. The screen has to go into some type of low power mode for the 300mAh battery to last through a day. I also have a Qualcomm Toq that I picked up cheap on ebay, that uses a Mirasol Screen and only has a 240mAh battery. I get 4-5 days always on with it (even over night). The Toq has a tiny processor, runs a unique OS, and the colors are not vibrant, but it is a very capable demonstration smartwatch. I think there may be a future for more advanced Mirasol screens.
Anyway good to see some excitement over our Gear 1. I have enjoyed being an early adapter and experimenting with Null and Tizen on the watch. Maybe Android Wear is in our future.
I want to see this. I really need to get off of this touchwiz train. Wear works with any android at least 4.3.
Hey can someone help me unbrick my alcatel one touch evolve tmobile? I tried using adb and sdk but its not working correctly for some reason. It just says closed every time i try to execute a command... :/
Btw i bricked it by editing the build prop
Does watch styler app work w Gear live?
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Good question. Though I think you are about 1 week too early.
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Good question. Though I think you are about 1 week too early.
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I'm sure a quite a bit early haha, but it's a discussion that you'll see a lot of I'm sure.
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I'm sure a quite a bit early haha, but it's a discussion that you'll see a lot of I'm sure.
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Sorry i was refering to @Mr Ian B's question on watchstyler on Android Wear, didn't realize it could have applied to your original question in the OP. :cyclops:
Android wear was just announced yesterday, so it will probably be a while before devs can get their hands on a device, then another while before we see a port, only after that will we see if other features like watchstyler will be able to be ported onto android wear, should not be a major problem as both are of the same platform.
Personally I cannot wait to see a port of Android wear onto the gear1, I would like to see how my gear1 fares withe the screen on feature:laugh:
Hi,
I'm interested in app developement for stock Galaxy Gear 1. However, I searched for SDKs and there were only tools for Gear with Tizen.
My question is: is there any mechanism similar to Sony SmartWatch 2 for creating and installing apps? The only thing I found is that I need to root my watch, and/or instal Tizen or somehow sideload apps. Is that really the only way of creating (installing) apps?
The gear 1 was released with android, and now it's been updated to Tizen. So the Tizen sdk is what you're looking for. Any app development for the gear 1 on android would be outdated.
When the gear 1 was on android, wondershare was a great way of uploading apps and moving files. Now that it's on Tizen, sideloading is the easiest because wondershare doesn't work with Tizen.
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The gear 1 was released with android, and now it's been updated to Tizen. So the Tizen sdk is what you're looking for. Any app development for the gear 1 on android would be outdated.
When the gear 1 was on android, wondershare was a great way of uploading apps and moving files. Now that it's on Tizen, sideloading is the easiest because wondershare doesn't work with Tizen.
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So, if I understand you properly - Gear 1 is now working on Tizen, therefore all app development is quite the same as on Gear 2, right? Everything on developer.samsung.com/samsung-gear (sorry for not posting a proper link, I'm new ad XDA) applies also to Gear 1?
This is important to me, because in my job there is an idea to start creating apps on wearables, right now I'm doing something on SmartWatch 2, and we are planning to test other platforms. For some reason we have Samsung Gear 1 so I need to know if I should start a new project with it, or is it pointless. (getting newer versions is an option, but ordering them takes a lot of time...)
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So, if I understand you properly - Gear 1 is now working on Tizen, therefore all app development is quite the same as on Gear 2, right? Everything on developer.samsung.com/samsung-gear (sorry for not posting a proper link, I'm new ad XDA) applies also to Gear 1?
This is important to me, because in my job there is an idea to start creating apps on wearables, right now I'm doing something on SmartWatch 2, and we are planning to test other platforms. For some reason we have Samsung Gear 1 so I need to know if I should start a new project with it, or is it pointless. (getting newer versions is an option, but ordering them takes a lot of time...)
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Yes gear 1 runs on Tizen. If you check sammobile.com it's reffered to as Android 2.2.1.1 Therefore building for gear 1 will be just like building for gear 2! I'm sure there's minor tweeks needed across the two. You can refer to the Tizen sdk for more info.
There's also "android "wear", and it's new "android studio beta". Which will be the new overall android ide. There's 3 devices to build for on this android wear sdk. The Gear live, the Moto 360, and the G Watch. But this android studio might be the band wagon everyone wants to jump on!
I just found this article on Master Herald:
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Android 5.0 Update Coming Later Than Planned as Company Readjusts Plans around Gear VR
Initial reports about the Gear VR claimed that Samsung are planning to put a lot of focus on the device, but it wasn’t until recently that the picture started to really clear up. It seems that the company really is moving forward very actively with the Gear VR, but at the same time, sadly, some of their current users will have to suffer a little bit. Recent rumors indicated that the Android 5.0 Lollipop update is coming closer for the Samsung Galaxy Note 4, but there have now been reports that the update has been pushed back a little further.
According to the most recent updates, the new Galaxy Note 4 ROM has been handed over to a team that’s working to ensure the device will have full compatibility with Samsung’s Gear VR. Considering the Note 4 is one of the very few devices that will (reportedly) support the Gear VR, it’s no wonder that Samsung are trying so hard to make sure that this compatibility works flawlessly.
The Gear VR is Samsung’s own take on the Virtual Reality concept, although they’re approaching the problem from a different direction. Instead of selling a complete device including an internal screen for the goggles, the Gear VR is meant to be used with Samsung’s other devices. The user would attach, for example, the Galaxy Note 4, and would then use the Gear VR as a normal VR headset, using the screen of the device.
It’s not known how much different this technology will be from the Oculus Rift in terms of performance, and there has been some skepticism aimed at it due to the fact that it relies on one screen instead of two. Still, Samsung seem to know what they’re doing, as they’ve been putting more and more effort into promoting and developing the Gear VR further, so it will be curious to see where they end up with this device. Even if it doesn’t break any solid grounds on the VR market, it still has the potential to set interesting new trends for it, and at least push it forward to some extent. So far, its performance has been acceptable, although those who’ve tried it seem to be left with mixed opinions.
Other devices that are going to get the Android 5.0 Lollipop update include the Galaxy Note Edge, Galaxy Alpha, Galaxy S5 mini, and Galaxy S4. Exact release dates for the new firmware version are not known, but it’s expected that Samsung will prioritize the devices according to their compatibility with the Gear VR. This could potentially indicate which devices Samsung is planning to make compatible with the headset in the future, too.
F%$& Gear VR, I want Lollipop nao =(
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Nice find OP...why the actual **** would we care about gearVR ffs, they'll probably release lollipop for the note 2 soon and note 4 users will still be waiting because of their stupid "virtual reality" ****...
http://www.nextpowerup.com/news/178...ts-android-5-0-lollipop-update-in-russia.html
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Gets Android 5.0 Lollipop Update In Russia
no idea whether it is true..
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samsung galaxy note 4 gets android 5.0 lollipop update in russia
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is this real and can we flash this in the uk??!
I doubt it's true. They provide no source and there is nothing about this on sammobile. Perhaps, they just mistakenly wrote 4 instead of 3?
I dunno there's a chance theyre lying but there's no way they've accidentally got this wrong, as they referred to the note 3 by saying like it's predecessor I guess we'll here about it in a few hours time if it's real but my bets on them just lying cause they're Weirdos
Well Samsung is making a very bad impression on people who picked up the Note 4 as their first Samsung device. I love the device itself but the TW interface and constant lag on a device this powerful is embarrassing. It worries me that instead of focusing on making TW better for the Lollipop update they are goofing around with compatibility for a $200 piece of plastic that won't even work unless you have a specific device with a specific version of OS installed. Maybe I'm being unfair but I also own a Gear Neo 2 which can't be used on any other phone. See like the Gear VR it can't be used on my Note 4 unless I have a specific version of OS installed. This makes the device extremely limited. It's nice they are making sure the VR is going to work for the few hundred people who have a Gear VR, but for the thousands who don't it isn't a very good excuse for taking 3 months to push out one update. Loving the Note 4 device but not loving TW or the limited customization. This doesn't turn me off android devices at all. Just turning me off from investing in another Samsung product.
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I dunno there's a chance theyre lying but there's no way they've accidentally got this wrong, as they referred to the note 3 by saying like it's predecessor I guess we'll here about it in a few hours time if it's real but my bets on them just lying cause they're Weirdos
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I doubt it's true. They provide no source and there is nothing about this on sammobile. Perhaps, they just mistakenly wrote 4 instead of 3?
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Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Gets Android 5.0 Lollipop Update In Russia
no idea whether it is true..
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Looks like they were supposed to say the S4 and not the Note 4.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_i9500_getting_lollipop_in_russia-news-11008.php
http://www.nextpowerup.com/news/178...ts-android-5-0-lollipop-update-in-russia.html
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/01/30...500-is-getting-the-lollipop-update-in-russia/
well got this last night for what its worth...
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Hm do you reckon they're telling the truth or just bull****ting again to shut us up? If this is true it could be available by Monday
well got it from 4 different reps...but whos nows with Sammy! lol
Just wanna say I have a gear VR and it kicks ass. Most of us that own them already know this, but many are still uninformed.
Not saying I like that lollipop is delayed for Oculus to finish tweaking the kernel (if that's actually even the truth), but I'm glad I will be able to use it with the new update and not be stuck with KK. Furthermore if they just ignored the VR so they could release an earlier 5.0, there would still be another update in the coming weeks and everyone would have to wipe, reflash, reroot, etc...
What's more, those of us who own the VR, if Samsung released an update without supporting it, there would be boatloads of complaints from people who either want to update asap, or accidentally accept the OTA.
you guys have clearly never used the Gear VR if you think it's a minor point of emphasis to Samsung. It is the wave of the future, in my opinion. Go ahead and downplay it or call it a niche product, but if you haven't tried it you really should. I understand the move to include the VR software with their initial release.
How many on here are going to flash stock ROMs anyway? They're rubbish. I'll be waiting for the official Cyanogen 12 rom.
I believe in Samsung as much as I believe in God. Samsung said they will release Lollipop in January and I'm still in January.
But if they want to postpone the release due to Gear VR I won't be mad at them, they would do it for a good reason.
Samsung know why most of us wanted a phablet with super high resolution. And they know that we want lollipop, but they know well that we will be more satisfied if we receive Lollipop + Gear VR + reality porn together
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I believe in Samsung as much as I believe in God. Samsung said they will release Lollipop in January and I'm still in January.
But if they want to postpone the release due to Gear VR I won't be mad at them, they would do it for a good reason.
Samsung know why most of us wanted a phablet with super high resolution. And they know that we want lollipop, but they know well that we will be more satisfied if we receive Lollipop + Gear VR + reality porn together
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I too believe in Samsung as much as God........ not at all.
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How many on here are going to flash stock ROMs anyway? They're rubbish. I'll be waiting for the official Cyanogen 12 rom.
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There is no point in you waiting. The CM ROMs for the Note 4 are great and are already nearly merged with the Official branch. The update from Samsung only matters if you actually want to use any of Samsungs products or if you really need TW features.
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Just wanna say I have a gear VR and it kicks ass. Most of us that own them already know this, but many are still uninformed.
you guys have clearly never used the Gear VR if you think it's a minor point of emphasis to Samsung. It is the wave of the future, in my opinion. Go ahead and downplay it or call it a niche product, but if you haven't tried it you really should. I understand the move to include the VR software with their initial release.
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We're not saying the VR is complete rubbish. but that the Note 4 users who do not have a VR, or have no interest in it vastly out weigh the people who actively use the Gear VR on a daily basis. Your not the only person screaming that the VR is the future. Things like the VR been proclaimed to be the future since 2012 (Or Nintendo back in 1995), and while they will become more popular as they are adopted it's not going to happen overnight. Remember we are talking about a Rift unit that effectively is a $1000+ headset because you need the phone and possibly more seeing that Samsung has been very open about you most likely will be needing the Samsung gamepad as well. Upside is that it is more portable then other versions. As for if the device is a success or not depends on support. Remember when everyone thought the Ouya was going to be the next big thing? The VR is very much a early adopter device. Games are not really here yet as approximately 40% of all launch titles announced so far are actually either short videos or sit still environments like a fish tank. I definitely believe the VR is a step in the correct direction but it's not here yet. Maybe in a few years. My point is why make thousands of Note 4 users wait for compatibility with a early adopter device that few of the Note 4 base even have?
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Not saying I like that lollipop is delayed for Oculus to finish tweaking the kernel (if that's actually even the truth), but I'm glad I will be able to use it with the new update and not be stuck with KK. Furthermore if they just ignored the VR so they could release an earlier 5.0, there would still be another update in the coming weeks and everyone would have to wipe, reflash, reroot, etc...
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Understandable. even if you have the Gear VR waiting isn't any fun. I don't think there will be many users who would have to reflash an update. OTA is there for a reason. Reroot sure, but that takes a few seconds. Heck in the time it takes me to make a sandwich I can reflash and root my device without problem.
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What's more, those of us who own the VR, if Samsung released an update without supporting it, there would be boatloads of complaints from people who either want to update asap, or accidentally accept the OTA.
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I think there are more people complaining about not having the Lollipop update then those who depend on the Gear VR. I could be wrong. You do make a good point about accidentally accepting the OTA. I could see that happening.
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There is no point in you waiting. The CM ROMs for the Note 4 are great and are already nearly merged with the Official branch. The update from Samsung only matters if you actually want to use any of Samsungs products or if you really need TW features.
We're not saying the VR is complete rubbish. but that the Note 4 users who do not have a VR, or have no interest in it vastly out weigh the people who actively use the Gear VR on a daily basis. Your not the only person screaming that the VR is the future. Things like the VR been proclaimed to be the future since 2012 (Or Nintendo back in 1995), and while they will become more popular as they are adopted it's not going to happen overnight. Remember we are talking about a Rift unit that effectively is a $1000+ headset because you need the phone and possibly more seeing that Samsung has been very open about you most likely will be needing the Samsung gamepad as well. Upside is that it is more portable then other versions. As for if the device is a success or not depends on support. Remember when everyone thought the Ouya was going to be the next big thing? The VR is very much a early adopter device. Games are not really here yet as approximately 40% of all launch titles announced so far are actually either short videos or sit still environments like a fish tank. I definitely believe the VR is a step in the correct direction but it's not here yet. Maybe in a few years. My point is why make thousands of Note 4 users wait for compatibility with a early adopter device that few of the Note 4 base even have?
Understandable. even if you have the Gear VR waiting isn't any fun. I don't think there will be many users who would have to reflash an update. OTA is there for a reason. Reroot sure, but that takes a few seconds. Heck in the time it takes me to make a sandwich I can reflash and root my device without problem.
I think there are more people complaining about not having the Lollipop update then those who depend on the Gear VR. I could be wrong. You do make a good point about accidentally accepting the OTA. I could see that happening.
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I've tried the unofficial CM ROM and the battery issues caused me too many problems. Its nearly there but not enough for me as a daily driver. One day I lost 50% battery in 2 hours lol and phone was hot as hell.
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well got it from 4 different reps...but whos nows with Sammy! lol
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Here's hoping they knew what they were talking about.
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A good ole bloody cheers to that!
Waiting for the Gear VR to play catch-up is worth it I think.
The Occulus team and the Samsung people have some time to begin to learn how to work with each other and exchange code, and we get to wait a little longer to find out if Lollipop is truly ready for this anyway.
As it is, the way things were going, I was going to manually skip this update.
I love my stock experience (touch wiz notwithstanding) and I can't stand the hoardes that show up to learn how to 're-install KK 'cause the battery's no good anymore and what's up with the notifications....?'
Happened with Ice-Cream (lord help those still devoutly on Gingerbread), happened with Jelly Bean (you'd have thought KK was treading ground Vista there at the beginning) and, mark my words, will happen - with a vengeance - with Lollipop.
I can wait for the last man standing.
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