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Galaxy Tab wifi only (P1010) hardware

Can owners of the Galaxy Tab wifi-only version (P1010) please install Quadrant and make a screen shot of the "System Information" (see attached file, example for Moto Xoom) showing the CPU and GPU?
There are rumors that the wifi-only version use a different chip (OMAP 3630) from the original GT (Samsung Hummingbird). In quadrant's "System Information", even if the CPU name is not listed, the GPU name should be listed - if it is the same as the original GT it should be PowerVR SGX540; if it is OMAP 3630 it will be SGX530.
Time to settle some rumors once and for all. Thank you for your contribution.

slim_thumb said:
Can owners of the Galaxy Tab wifi-only version (P1010) please install Quadrant and make a screen shot of the "System Information" (see attached file, example for Moto Xoom) showing the CPU and GPU?
There are rumors that the wifi-only version use a different chip (OMAP 3630) from the original GT (Samsung Hummingbird). In quadrant's "System Information", even if the CPU name is not listed, the GPU name should be listed - if it is the same as the original GT it should be PowerVR SGX540; if it is OMAP 3630 it will be SGX530.
Time to settle some rumors once and for all. Thank you for your contribution.
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It's PowerVR SGX530!

Is this the OMAP 3630?
Even a total noob like me can guess that "Cores:1" can't be good.

rdk67 said:
It's PowerVR SGX530!
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Hey what app is that?

Another app that can show you system info would be elixir. Its free on the market.

pendevous said:
Hey what app is that?
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Android System Info

rtfm1777 said:
Even a total noob like me can guess that "Cores:1" can't be good.
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It's not like the P1000 has two of them, you know. Plus, the tab plays full hd video while the Tegra 2 can't go above 720p.
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AlexTheStampede said:
It's not like the P1000 has two of them, you know. Plus, the tab plays full hd video while the Tegra 2 can't go above 720p.
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Can the P1010 though (which is what is being discussed!)

I am getting one of these in the next week or so, but if I understand correctly then the wifi only version isnt quite as quick?

In system folders.

AlexTheStampede said:
It's not like the P1000 has two of them, you know. Plus, the tab plays full hd video while the Tegra 2 can't go above 720p.
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With what video app?
Thanks for the topic as I was also looking into getting the WiFi only tab...will now be looking at the GSM version, ATT or TMOBILE (that one is cheaper) or the 8.9"...when it comes out.

hicdub said:
I am getting one of these in the next week or so, but if I understand correctly then the wifi only version isnt quite as quick?
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Don't know where you're hearing this from. I haven't noticed any lag at all. It seems perfectly responsive to me.

hicdub said:
I am getting one of these in the next week or so, but if I understand correctly then the wifi only version isnt quite as quick?
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I have the original GTab (T-Mobile version) but not the wifi-only (P1010) version. However, I have an Archos 70 tablet that uses the OMAP3630 chip with the SGX530 gpu. It may be comparing orange with grapefruit but this is better than nothing.
The Archos plays downloaded HD video using their media player quite smoothly. However (1) the Archos screen is only 800 x 480 resolution, meaning it is less stressful for a weaker gpu (2) they probably have some form of hardware acceleration for their media player.
The problem comes when you try to watch online streaming video using Adobe Flash in the web browsers (NOTE: NOT through youtube app which compresses the video stream). It can play standard definition (SD, 360p) video but sometimes show stuttering (eg. just before the embedded ads show up). Anything higher (480p or +) causes major stutters and hangs. NOTE: the Archos has a low res. screen (800 x 480) and the SGX530 gpu is already struggling.
When I use my GTab, 360p SD Flash videos in the browser plays smoothly without any problem. It can manage many 480p Flash videos (youtube automatically bumps up the video resolution to 480p when you go full screen). NOTE: the GTab has a higher resolution (1024 x 600) screen, and the SGX540 gpu is able to keep up with it.
My main concern is the pairing of the weaker SGX530 gpu with the "higher" screen resolution of 1024 x 600 in the P1010 may not be a happy marriage!
Any higher res. Flash videos are not possible - and I don't think any single core ARM processors can manage true HD (720p or higher) Flash videos, because these processors were originally designed for smartphones with small low res. screens!
With the original GTab version, you will probably get a faster and smoother user experience eg. swiping through the screens, screen animation / transition, typing on the keyboard. This is because tablets use the touchscreen exclusively for user input, which involves the gpu all the time.
P.S. I rooted my GTab and applied the One Click Lag Fix immediately after unboxing, and it is truely flying! Quadrant about 2200.

Great input, I now see a TMO 3G TAB in my near future ;-)

slim_thumb said:
P.S. I rooted my GTab and applied the One Click Lag Fix immediately after unboxing, and it is truely flying! Quadrant about 2200.
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I only have 720 Quadrant points with my euro p1010 wifi only rooted with Z4root, is that normal?
Ps: sorry for my bad english

Don't buy the wifi version if you expect it to play HD video.
YouTube HQ (480x360) plays smoothly.
Other features are much more responsive than Archos 70 (I have both Grab wifi and Archie 70).
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stockhomer said:
I only have 720 Quadrant points with my euro p1010 wifi only rooted with Z4root, is that normal?
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Find "OCLF" (OneClickLagFix) in Android Market. I dunno if it will work on the P1010 but it is worth a try.
Run the app and press "install ext2 tools". If this button is red or it fails to install, you are out of luck.
After this, see which "OneClickLagFix" button (v1, v2, v2.2) is green and choose the NEWEST version. If one version fails, try another one (with green button). If all buttons are in red or if all available versions fail, you are out of luck.
P.S. Before I run Quadrant, I close all unnecessary apps in the background (eg. Weather, Twitter, antivirus). This make sure all possible processing power is used to run the benchmark. Before I used OCLF my Quadrant score (original GTab) was about 1100.

stockhomer said:
I only have 720 Quadrant points with my euro p1010 wifi only rooted with Z4root, is that normal?
Ps: sorry for my bad english
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I also apply one click lag fix. Though the score jumps from 6xx to 16xx, I don't think we can trust Quadrant score test after OCLF. Reason: you can see the Database read/write test is so quick as if it did nothing. Before applying lagfix Database write test tooks around 20 seconds, but after lagfix, it looks like it did nothing on the database test.
I found original Grab wifi is already so much responsive even very low quadrant score. Archos 70 has double the gtab wifi quadrant score, but much less responsive.
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Just to confirm OCLF works with p1010. The process was smooth; but I'm still doubt on performance gain. I can't discern the differences.
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stockhomer said:
I only have 720 Quadrant points with my euro p1010 wifi only rooted with Z4root, is that normal?
Ps: sorry for my bad english
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As mentioned in my other reply, I got only 6xx, but this tablet is very fast.
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[Q] Setting up P880 for AnTuTu

Hey fellow XDA users
I would like to know how you set up your device for a benchmark like AnTuTu, e.g. governor, min/max frequencies, disables (network disable, screen brightness etc.).
I get scores around 14300 in AnTuTu with gaming governor and nothing changed in any setting.
I'm on WerewolfJB Rom and Kernel
Thanks for your tips and experiences!
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Ignore benchmarks. They mean less than nothing. The only thing worth worrying about is how the device appears to function to YOU.

Well I still want to know how I get scores over 15000 like @laufersteppenwolf
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SimonTS said:
Ignore benchmarks. They mean less than nothing. The only thing worth worrying about is how the device appears to function to YOU.
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in general, exactly.
but when you are deving, benchmarks can give you feedback on how it has changed, better or worse. but in the end, it's my feeling, that decides if it was better or worse before
Omario-242 said:
Well I still want to know how I get scores over 15000 like @laufersteppenwolf
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it mostly depends on what apps you have installed.
or more precisely, what kind of apps. widgets and other stuff (syncing, ...) use background power. to avoid that, you can temporarily set the max background processes to 4 during the benchmark. that way you have a more-less comparable value

laufersteppenwolf said:
in general, exactly.
but when you are deving, benchmarks can give you feedback on how it has changed, better or worse. but in the end, it's my feeling, that decides if it was better or worse before
it mostly depends on what apps you have installed.
or more precisely, what kind of apps. widgets and other stuff (syncing, ...) use background power. to avoid that, you can temporarily set the max background processes to 4 during the benchmark. that way you have a more-less comparable value
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Thank you for your answer
Will try this the next time I'll run AnTuTu
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[Q] Switching between CPU modes

Hi guys,
I may be being completely dense but on the TF700 you could switch between power saver, balanced and performance modes.
Can this be done on the TF701? I'm on 4.3 and can't find it anywhere!
Owen.

Pull down the menu from the top and choose intelligent saving. Or open the app called energy-saving and choose there what you want to choose.

SHadowral said:
Pull down the menu from the top and choose intelligent saving. Or open the app called energy-saving and choose there what you want to choose.
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That is not what he is asking. He knows that already.
He means to switch between different CPU frequencies as on the TF700 is possible.
I don't know if this is also done with the energy savings settings.
Maybe after Sbdags started to build a custom Rom he can find out if it can be done.

Snah001 said:
That is not what he is asking. He knows that already.
He means to switch between different CPU frequencies as on the TF700 is possible.
I don't know if this is also done with the energy savings settings.
Maybe after Sbdags started to build a custom Rom he can find out if it can be done.
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I can see already by playing around with the ROM files that Asus haven't set it up the same way - in fact I'm yet to see any indication of how they do it, if they even do.

I could be wrong but I read somewhere, that when your do low level tasks, like watching video, it goes to single core.
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xRevilatioNx said:
I could be wrong but I read somewhere, that when your do low level tasks, like watching video, it goes to single core.
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Well that is nothing new. The TF700 with Tegra 3 did that already and Tegra 4 does the same.
I guess maybe they don't lower the clock frequency just limit Wifi, brightness etc. on the TF701.

Snah001 said:
Well that is nothing new. The TF700 with Tegra 3 did that already and Tegra 4 does the same.
I guess maybe they don't lower the clock frequency just limit Wifi, brightness etc. on the TF701.
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Yeah that was my wondering, a bit more 'intelligent'. Certainly can't find anything obvious in any menus or pull downs.

Checked with SystemTuner the max CPU freq when energy saving off and on.
Off: 1.91 Ghz
On: 1.7 Ghz.
So they still use it, but only 2 frequencies.

Snah001 said:
Checked with SystemTuner the max CPU freq when energy saving off and on.
Off: 1.91 Ghz
On: 1.7 Ghz.
So they still use it, but only 2 frequencies.
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Ok good to know how it's varied, thanks!

Owendavies said:
Ok good to know how it's varied, thanks!
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So for normal use you can let energy saving enabled unless you want to play 3d games.
When browsing I don't see any difference in speed, also not with other applications.
But for sure running an Antutu test is will score lower.

[Q] What's the name of the app that forces an app to a specific resolution?

For the life of me, I can not find this app. Google search is letting me down, for once.
I want to be able to force an app to run at a lower resolution, mainly for performance reasons since some apps aren't very fast at the 2560x1600 resolution of this tablet.
Also curious if the app can help with apps that don't scale to full-screen, like Let's Golf 3 that is stuck in a little 800x480 section of the screen.

snake2332 said:
For the life of me, I can not find this app. Google search is letting me down, for once.
I want to be able to force an app to run at a lower resolution, mainly for performance reasons since some apps aren't very fast at the 2560x1600 resolution of this tablet.
Also curious if the app can help with apps that don't scale to full-screen, like Let's Golf 3 that is stuck in a little 800x480 section of the screen.
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You can use wm in a terminal. Search for that.

Will this actually improve performance? Or will it make no difference because the physical number of pixels that need to be shifted around is the same?

pelago said:
Will this actually improve performance? Or will it make no difference because the physical number of pixels that need to be shifted around is the same?
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It will be down-scaling the image, while it does improve render performance, its not the same as running is nativley at a lower reolution. Same as what ms is doing to the xbox one...

Tegra Overclock OUYA Edition is finally here :)

What this app is gonna do?
This will give you some boost that is really required to play games that are demanding on GPU front.
What this app require?
You need to be ROOTed and for that there is a really great app with one touch facility available! The link is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387507
After you get ROOTed just install the Tegra Overclock OUYA EDITION app from attachment and click on OK for one click optimization.
You can also change the actual resolution to somewhat lower to again get a massive boost in GPU intensive games or shall I say those games that scale with GPU clocks very well. (I can confirm nearly 2X boost in RipTideGP2 with all settings maxed out when comparing with 1080p to 720p option provided in the app :laugh
Any kind of hazardous warning before use?
If anything goes wrong then you know where the power switch is! Close the console and cut the power and start again. We have not implemented the on Boot settings for safety reasons...
What about future updates?
I just wish that 4.2.2 gets for the OUYA and that will be a game changer for the console as that support full screen scaling on resolution changing vs screen compensation provided by current android 4.1 version....
NOTE: The app is fully free to use one click solution for OUYA owners and don't require you to get involve in any of cracking stuff Still the app does costs us in development and support front so any kind of donation will be greatly appreciated. If you are planning to buy any Tegra device in future then you can support us by purchasing the original Tegra Overclock app from the market that will in turn benefit you as well..
BTW don't forget to hit the thanks button
EDIT: Version 1.1 Change log
*Nothing new just made the interactive governor as a default rather than performance governor due to heating concern.
*Checked the code so that 2D GPU is set to 520 MHz too, in case it still reports half let me know..
EDIT: Version 1.2 Change Log
***Added requested LBCMT (LastBootCpuMaximumTemperature!) This shows the maximum temperature your device went during last boot.
***Added apply on boot (Works only when the USB device with at least a single file is detected to ensure you don't intentionally mess up anywhere )
The LBCMT will works as soon as you boot once after you open the app for the first time. Also note that YOU SHOULD NOT KILL THE APP manually by task killers or the reporting will be fake. BEWARE....
EDIT: Version 1.3 Change LOG
***Full screen stretched resolution support for CM11 Rom users. Use the special newly added resolution (will only work for CM users currently as no other 4.3 or 4.4 Roms available)
Fixes for temp not showing on custom kernel like EPRJ Kernel.
Thank you for being patient.

Kingshoo said:
What this app is gonna do?
This will give you some boost that is really required to play games that are demanding on GPU front.
What this app require?
You need to be ROOTed and for that there is a really great app with one touch facility available! The link is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387507
After you get ROOTed just install the Tegra Overclock OUYA EDITION app from attachment and click on OK for one click optimization.
You can also change the actual resolution to somewhat lower to again get a massive boost in GPU intensive games or shall I say those games that scale with GPU clocks very well. (I can confirm nearly 2X boost in RipTideGP2 with all settings maxed out when comparing with 1080p to 720p option provided in the app :laugh
Any kind of hazardous warning before use?
If anything goes wrong then you know where the power switch is! Close the console and cut the power and start again. We have not implemented the on Boot settings for safety reasons...
What about future updates?
I just wish that 4.2.2 gets for the OUYA and that will be a game changer for the console as that support full screen scaling on resolution changing vs screen compensation provided by current android 4.1 version....
NOTE: The app is fully free to use one click solution for OUYA owners and don't require you to get involve in any of cracking stuff Still the app does costs us in development and support front so any kind of donation will be greatly appreciated. If you are planning to buy any Tegra device in future then you can support us by purchasing the original Tegra Overclock app from the market that will in turn benefit you as well..
BTW don't forget to hit the thanks button
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now a simple question....can you tell me which options i need to use for get a best performance in ouya games and emu?

This app has a one click solution (found in the op). All you need to do is click the button and your ouya is optimized. The op already has this information.
On another note, this app rocks. Thank you.

Awesome, finally the OUYA version, im about to jump on this right now and give it a spin!!!:good:

darkknight1812 said:
This app has a one click solution (found in the op). All you need to do is click the button and your ouya is optimized. The op already has this information.
On another note, this app rocks. Thank you.
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i asked before install...now i saw it very nice and user friendly

.. one click optimization .. nice job .. cheers

sasuke1981 said:
now a simple question....can you tell me which options i need to use for get a best performance in ouya games and emu?
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Just Press the OK button and wait a few seconds as the settings getting applied. After that Run your Emulator Games and you should notice a difference . Note that Resolution options also cuts the screen area so use them only if a game is unplayable!

is there no way to allow users to set advanced profiles so that they can configure a medium and max overclock setting?
i saw the temps on my core rise up pretty quickly just from fiddling with the UI, not sure if I want to subject this little guy to that much abuse with no really efficient cooling solution under the hood.

Careless_ said:
is there no way to allow users to set advanced profiles so that they can configure a medium and max overclock setting?
i saw the temps on my core rise up pretty quickly just from fiddling with the UI, not sure if I want to subject this little guy to that much abuse with no really efficient cooling solution under the hood.
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it's understandable for the lil guy to get hot quickly when you are overclocking the GPU+CPU, can't expected to run cool unless you put a better cooling fan into you console, i don't mid my ouya running a lil hot, well mines don't get hot enough cause my ouya got a acrylic custom shell with enough vents and airflow that keeps my console way cooler then the ouya stock/factory shell...

its obvious that it would run hotter if the clock speed is higher. no one is disputing that. i just don't see how not allowing the user to specify speed as much of the other CPU overclocking programs like SetCPU allow the user to do.
It's a needed feature IF it can be supported and implemented.

Excellent!
I'll give this a bash tonight and see what improvements there are!

Careless_ said:
is there no way to allow users to set advanced profiles so that they can configure a medium and max overclock setting?
i saw the temps on my core rise up pretty quickly just from fiddling with the UI, not sure if I want to subject this little guy to that much abuse with no really efficient cooling solution under the hood.
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Actually Temperatures are no problem for this chip as it can bear temperatures of 70 C with great ease as the manufacturer mentioned. Don't worry about that also let me know if they are above this temperature so that we can do something about that. If you ask me I am comfortable with 85C as that is what the throttle temperatures (Default mind you!). Just Relax and crush the games already

Careless_ said:
its obvious that it would run hotter if the clock speed is higher. no one is disputing that. i just don't see how not allowing the user to specify speed as much of the other CPU overclocking programs like SetCPU allow the user to do.
It's a needed feature IF it can be supported and implemented.
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The custom CPU clock feature conflict the one click feature and not to mention lower clocks are not required as there is no trouble with the highest speed since the cooling is active and with sink. Just don't worry about the temps too much as everything is normal here and the purpose of console is to bear high temperatures with high load even with little heat management..

I have both the old app and the Ouya specific one and it looks to me that 2D GPU clock is set to 260MHz (1/2 of 3D clock). @Kingshoo, can you tell us what the "one click" settings are (governor, CPU clock, GPU, etc).
Much appreciate the work you've done.

Ipse_Tase said:
I have both the old app and the Ouya specific one and it looks to me that 2D GPU clock is set to 260MHz (1/2 of 3D clock). Can you tell us what the "one click" settings are (governor, CPU clock, GPU, etc).
Much appreciate the work you've done.
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Oh really If its working on Half then I will bump that to full to in next iteration
Settings are nothing but final settings in one click. Meaning Performance governor (Because this one has no polling overhead as opposed to interactive). GPU to 520Mhz, CPU clock to 1.7Ghz (1.6 on all 4 cores as set by OUYA). Ram at 800Mhz and also no throttling on Ram and GPU so that performance is reduced only due to H/W limitation or by bad coding practices and not due to some power saving logics

Kingshoo said:
Oh really If its working on Half then I will bump that to full to in next iteration
Settings are nothing but final settings in one click. Meaning Performance governor (Because this one has no polling overhead as opposed to interactive). GPU to 520Mhz, CPU clock to 1.7Ghz (1.6 on all 4 cores as set by OUYA). Ram at 800Mhz and also no throttling on Ram and GPU so that performance is reduced only due to H/W limitation or by bad coding practices and not due to some power saving logics
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Cool...thanks! Looking forward to v2
BTW...for reference, I had my governor set to performance for a while and it drove the fan to run almost at all times. To the point I ended up shelling 20 bux to buy the Noctua quiet fan. Maybe others have better luck with the stock fan - but if noise is a concern, I found that the "Interactive" governor scales pretty fast with no visible impact on performance vs "Performance".
My 2 cents.

After reading several reviews about Noctua 40x10mm A-Series Blades with AAO Frame, SSO2 Bearing Premium Retail Cooling Fan NF-A4x10, I decided to buy it. I replaced the noisy fan of my OUYA, and the difference in sound is amazing. I had to check if the fan was actually running because barely hear it. Also, the temperature of my equipment dropped ~ 10°C, so overheating issues could be easily fixed, if you decided to overclock. I recommend this product without a doubt. Check on eBay or Amazon.
If you want to replace the fan, here's a guide how to do it. youtube . com /watch?v=rra0FwlHvBA

Well honestly I wasn't able to play games on OUYA but since you people are playing games what the temps of CPU are anyways after say an hour? I am asking this because I don't see a need for custom coolers as 50C or 70C it really don't make any difference to your hardware. Yes the fan noise may be concerning to many but I have cotton plugs in my ears to keep it silent (these really costs cents and not $$!). OK so newer version will have interactive on one click..

My stock fan is totally silent anyway
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Ipse_Tase said:
Cool...thanks! Looking forward to v2
BTW...for reference, I had my governor set to performance for a while and it drove the fan to run almost at all times. To the point I ended up shelling 20 bux to buy the Noctua quiet fan. Maybe others have better luck with the stock fan - but if noise is a concern, I found that the "Interactive" governor scales pretty fast with no visible impact on performance vs "Performance".
My 2 cents.
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i will also try this, i run my OUYA on performance all the time and it's pretty loud...