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To Root or not to Root, That is the Question.

I recieved my One on Friday, and been debating whether or not to root since I cut the seal.
If you rooted, convince me.
If you kept it stock convince me to.
Thanks in Advance
Sent from HTC One

Kwongger said:
I recieved my One on Friday, and been debating whether or not to root since I cut the seal.
If you rooted, convince me.
If you kept it stock convince me to.
Thanks in Advance
Sent from HTC One
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I played around with my one for about a week before I rooted. If you have to be convinced then you should just stay stock until you get bored... If that's possible
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Kwongger said:
I recieved my One on Friday, and been debating whether or not to root since I cut the seal.
If you rooted, convince me.
If you kept it stock convince me to.
Thanks in Advance
Sent from HTC One
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if you are asking whether you should root your phone, i suggest that you stay at stock!
i rooted mine as soon as it came out of the box.

Aldo101t said:
if you are asking whether you should root your phone, i suggest that you stay at stock!
i rooted mine as soon as it came out of the box.
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Why do you suggest that I stay stock?
I am not a n00b or anything... I am just leary of HTC knowing what I am doing (i.e. voiding my warranty)

Yeah Dude, no one in here will "convince " you to root or not. If you are asking that question especially in this Forum you should not root and stay stock.

I just rooted mine to test out that logo to menu button but I couldn't because of the update.I'm just rooted waiting on a perfect rom with the updated base
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LOL Definitely a NOOB, less that 50 post is a noob, besides HTC doesn't care what you do with your phone, In fact.. they give you the tools to unlock the bootloader on htcdev.
My advice ..stay stock. and have fun customizing your device on mycolorscreen.com
Kwongger said:
Why do you suggest that I stay stock?
I am not a n00b or anything... I am just leary of HTC knowing what I am doing (i.e. voiding my warranty)
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engelsione said:
LOL Definitely a NOOB, less that 50 post is a noob, besides HTC doesn't care what you do with your phone, In fact.. they give you the tools to unlock the bootloader on htcdev.
My advice ..stay stock. and have fun customizing your device on mycolorscreen.com
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Kwongger said:
I recieved my One on Friday, and been debating whether or not to root since I cut the seal.
If you rooted, convince me.
If you kept it stock convince me to.
Thanks in Advance
Sent from HTC One
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I rooted after a week, but I could personally care less if you root yours or not. If you aren't new, then you should already know what to do.

Personally I think it is a little deeper than the question you pose. To me it is all about pushing Android itself to better places and thus having wonderful developers in here doing just that. Supporting the developers as they help mold Android into the best it can be is what it is all about. HTC and other manufacturers do take note of what is going on by the developers on this website and thus, it is helping to mold Android to better things. That is just my humble feelings on that.
In saying all of that, I have not even rooted yet...LOL!!! I always root and support the devs but I will feel way more comfortable when that 4.2 update hits this phone to do so. I thought we had it for a sec there with that first update. Not real sure why I feel this way other than feeling all warm a cozy and to settle in on a particular rom and kernnel. I am not what you would call a flash junkie so when I flash something I like it to be at least based on the latest Android version if possible. And I am a dummy at this dev stuff so there ya go my 2 cents. :silly:

budroux said:
Personally I think it is a little deeper than the question you pose. To me it is all about pushing Android itself to better places and thus having wonderful developers in here doing just that. Supporting the developers as they help mold Android into the best it can be is what it is all about. HTC and other manufacturers do take note of what is going on by the developers on this website and thus, it is helping to mold Android to better things. That is just my humble feelings on that.
In saying all of that, I have not even rooted yet...LOL!!! I always root and support the devs but I will feel way more comfortable when that 4.2 update hits this phone to do so. I thought we had it for a sec there with that first update. Not real sure why I feel this way other than feeling all warm a cozy and to settle in on a particular rom and kernnel. I am not what you would call a flash junkie so when I flash something I like it to be at least based on the latest Android version if possible. And I am a dummy at this dev stuff so there ya go my 2 cents. :silly:
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You really shouldn't be asking us... The bigger question is will root benefit you? Everyone uses their device differently... It's not up to us if it will be better for YOU.

tkoreaper said:
You really shouldn't be asking us... The bigger question is will root benefit you? Everyone uses their device differently... It's not up to us if it will be better for YOU.
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I never asked a question. I was just giving a humble opinion concerning my personal feelings about rooting in general.

budroux said:
I never asked a question. I was just giving a humble opinion concerning my personal feelings about rooting in general.
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Sorry about that, didn't mean to quote you. I clicked the wrong "reply" button... I wish they'd change that lol.

tkoreaper said:
Sorry about that, didn't mean to quote you. I clicked the wrong "reply" button... I wish they'd change that lol.
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No worries. I actually felt that is what you meant to do....after I posted to your reply and thought about it. :laugh:

I traditionally root for ad blockers and backups. On my Transformer, this doesn't void my warranty, not sure about the One

budroux said:
Personally I think it is a little deeper than the question you pose. To me it is all about pushing Android itself to better places and thus having wonderful developers in here doing just that. Supporting the developers as they help mold Android into the best it can be is what it is all about. HTC and other manufacturers do take note of what is going on by the developers on this website and thus, it is helping to mold Android to better things. That is just my humble feelings on that.
In saying all of that, I have not even rooted yet...LOL!!! I always root and support the devs but I will feel way more comfortable when that 4.2 update hits this phone to do so. I thought we had it for a sec there with that first update. Not real sure why I feel this way other than feeling all warm a cozy and to settle in on a particular rom and kernnel. I am not what you would call a flash junkie so when I flash something I like it to be at least based on the latest Android version if possible. And I am a dummy at this dev stuff so there ya go my 2 cents. :silly:
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THANKS! That is the type of answer I wanted!
Anyways, I ended up rooting and am LOVING it! :laugh:

I feel like a noob, but

Okay, so I've rooted a lot of other phones before and ran roms. But I'm confused as to where to start with the Moto x. I have the AT&T variant, on 4.4. I'm personally really interested in running eclipse. But, I'm not even sure where to start, I'm not rooted, just running the stock ota. Any help would be awesome!

So if you did some searching your questions would be answered. Prior ask this question everyday You need to use SlapMyMoto to root your phone
You need to download rsd lite and the at&t 4.2.2 camera update and flash your phone back to 4.2.2 then follow the guide
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dj923 said:
Okay, so I've rooted a lot of other phones before and ran roms. But I'm confused as to where to start with the Moto x. I have the AT&T variant, on 4.4. I'm personally really interested in running eclipse. But, I'm not even sure where to start, I'm not rooted, just running the stock ota. Any help would be awesome!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2556400

dray_jr said:
So if you did some searching your questions would be answered. Prior ask this question everyday You need to use SlapMyMoto to root your phone
You need to download rsd lite and the at&t 4.2.2 camera update and flash your phone back to 4.2.2 then follow the guide
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but how do i get safestrap? is it just included in the rooting process? or is it a separate thing I have to flash?

dj923 said:
but how do i get safestrap? is it just included in the rooting process? or is it a separate thing I have to flash?
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ok i am not trying to be mean what so ever but i cant stand helping someone who cant help them self's every question you have asked can be answered by looking and read the threads. i just feel like you have not even looked around for anything. so i am going to post some links and you need to read them before you ask any other questions
almost every question you have asked is answered in one thread so please read this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2558785
and here is your safestrap thread
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/104161-recovery-locked-safestrap-recovery-v365-2013-11-13/

dray_jr said:
ok i am not trying to be mean what so ever but i cant stand helping someone who cant help them self's every question you have asked can be answered by looking and read the threads. i just feel like you have not even looked around for anything. so i am going to post some links and you need to read them before you ask any other questions
almost every question you have asked is answered in one thread so please read this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2558785
and here is your safestrap thread
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/104161-recovery-locked-safestrap-recovery-v365-2013-11-13/
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I agree...however from experience.. It can be overwhelming.. First and for most OP u need to get back to 4.2.2 use RSD to flash back to 4.2.2 then follow slapmymoto to get root (after being done u can go back to 4.4 currently its what I'm on) as far as safestrap.. Its just a download.. I went directly to there site..hash of coe.. just remember BEFORE U FLASH ECLIPSE...MAKE AN NANDROID BACKUP!!! ( in case of an "oh s*it" moment) if u have questions msg me I'll help with what I can..mom running the "amazing" Verizon...
Slapped my Moto

xpsychox said:
I agree...however from experience.. It can be overwhelming..
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If he was completely new to Android and rooting, I'd understand how it can be overwhelming. However, the op has a lot of experience.
I always search first then ask questions if I don't understand. I don't understand why people make rooting this phone more difficult and complicated than it really is... ESPECIALLY the dev edition...

nhizzat said:
If he was completely new to Android and rooting, I'd understand how it can be overwhelming. However, the op has a lot of experience.
I always search first then ask questions if I don't understand. I don't understand why people make rooting this phone more difficult and complicated than it really is... ESPECIALLY the dev edition...
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I have a lot of XP too...still confused me.. I've owned and rooted the droid x the droid x2 the droid 2 the droid 3 bionic and RAZR.. Even converted the RAZR into the maxx... Don't judge a book by its cover.
I'm not saying he shouldn't have done his research.. Its ur phone..u should at least take 5 min to look...ull spend Kore time waiting on an answer...lol he also NVR mentioned if it was Dev edition..or non..
Slapped my Moto

xpsychox said:
I have a lot of XP too...still confused me.. I've owned and rooted the droid x the droid x2 the droid 2 the droid 3 bionic and RAZR.. Even converted the RAZR into the maxx... Don't judge a book by its cover.
I'm not saying he shouldn't have done his research.. Its ur phone..u should at least take 5 min to look...ull spend Kore time waiting on an answer...lol he also NVR mentioned if it was Dev edition..or non..
Slapped my Moto
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Totally agree with that. Guys make posts or start threads asking something that even a quick Google search will give them an answer to in 30 seconds.....But they ask instead and wait hours sometimes for an answer. I occasionally comment to them on this....But usually I just ignore the question. Again, one reason why they wait hours for an answer.
I firmly believe if someone is going to mess around with their expensive phone, they should read read read....and search for answers and eventually learn how all this stuff works. Not just blindly follow what people tell them to do. Not all advice is good advice either. Lol
If you don't learn about this stuff on your own guys....your risk of bricking your device will be much higher.
Lecture over.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....

kj2112 said:
Totally agree with that. Guys make posts or start threads asking something that even a quick Google search will give them an answer to in 30 seconds.....But they ask instead and wait hours sometimes for an answer. I occasionally comment to them on this....But usually I just ignore the question. Again, one reason why they wait hours for an answer.
I firmly believe if someone is going to mess around with their expensive phone, they should read read read....and search for answers and eventually learn how all this stuff works. Not just blindly follow what people tell them to do. Not all advice is good advice either. Lol
If you don't learn about this stuff on your own guys....your risk of bricking your device will be much higher.
Lecture over.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
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Agreed.. Couldn't have said it better myself.. If ur gunna take the time to post and wait for an answer.. Look it up 9 time out of 10 ull find it faster than u post! Lol..
Slapped my Moto

It is rather overwhelming when it comes to rooting the Moto X. I can entirely see where the OP is coming from. I have read what I can find on the subject. IT IS OVERWHELMING and YES, CAN VERY WELL BE CONFUSING. I have also rooted many devices. It would be very nice to have an easier root process but we have to work with what we have right now.

DanRo80 said:
It is rather overwhelming when it comes to rooting the Moto X. I can entirely see where the OP is coming from. I have read what I can find on the subject. IT IS OVERWHELMING and YES, CAN VERY WELL BE CONFUSING. I have also rooted many devices. It would be very nice to have an easier root process but we have to work with what we have right now.
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i mean. i was "overwhelmed" i guess when i first got into messing around with my phone. But it was only overwhelming because i knew what i wanted to do and wanted to do it as fast as possible without understanding anything. If you just read for 5 hours instead of 30 minutes then it isn't overwhelming at all. It just takes longer than most people expect to understand everything they are doing. So they don't take the time. End up running commands and doing things they think some post told to do somewhere without any idea of what they are doing and boinking their phone up. If instead when they came across something they weren't sure what it was and then took time to read/research what it actually was, they wouldn't feel overwhelmed anymore.
Overwhelming comes from taking tiny tid bits of info and trying to make them make sense together. If you read a ton, its not overwhelming to make large tid bits of information you have accumulated make sense together. IMHO.
I didn't do it the way i just described but i also spent days on end trying to unbrick my phones. I then had to spend countless hours actually understanding what i just did so that i can manually fix them. Rsdlite and toolkits are cool and all, but they allow people with little experience to get into trouble where they need lots of experience to get out of that trouble. Also considering everyone that knows what is going on just says read read read and it isnt overwhelming anymore, they are probably spot on (wwhether they followed that process or not).

jayboyyyy said:
i mean. i was "overwhelmed" i guess when i first got into messing around with my phone. But it was only overwhelming because i knew what i wanted to do and wanted to do it as fast as possible without understanding anything. If you just read for 5 hours instead of 30 minutes then it isn't overwhelming at all. It just takes longer than most people expect to understand everything they are doing. So they don't take the time. End up running commands and doing things they think some post told to do somewhere without any idea of what they are doing and boinking their phone up. If instead when they came across something they weren't sure what it was and then took time to read/research what it actually was, they wouldn't feel overwhelmed anymore.
Overwhelming comes from taking tiny tid bits of info and trying to make them make sense together. If you read a ton, its not overwhelming to make large tid bits of information you have accumulated make sense together. IMHO.
I didn't do it the way i just described but i also spent days on end trying to unbrick my phones. I then had to spend countless hours actually understanding what i just did so that i can manually fix them. Rsdlite and toolkits are cool and all, but they allow people with little experience to get into trouble where they need lots of experience to get out of that trouble. Also considering everyone that knows what is going on just says read read read and it isnt overwhelming anymore, they are probably spot on (wwhether they followed that process or not).
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Well said sir!
Slapped my Moto

Any guess let's get back on topic I may have made my comment but I also pointed him in the right direction to answer his question. But flaming the kid repeated is not needed. OP did you get everything taken care of
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dray_jr said:
Any guess let's get back on topic I may have made my comment but I also pointed him in the right direction to answer his question. But flaming the kid repeated is not needed. OP did you get everything taken care of
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I agree...happen to me on one of my posts... And I agree.. OP.. Fixed? Or still same issues?
Slapped my Moto

New member here ;)

Hi XDA Community.
Just recently bought a (Verizon) Moto X DE and am excited to join the XDA forums. This will be my first Android device (coming from iOS) and look forward to diving into rooting etc.. I've been reading and learning a lot on this forum and others since I received the phone a couple of days ago. I plan on spending a decent amount of time tinkering with my new toy and hopefully can add my experiences to the community for other newcomers like myself going forward.
A few of things I'll be starting off with based on the research I've already done:
1. Unlocking the bootloader on my Moto X DE
2. Rooting on 4.4 KitKat
3. Enabling native tethering
4. Installing Xposed and Gravity Box
5. ????
6. Profit
Let me know if you guys have any general tips or noobie advice. I don't have a ton of free time these days, but I look forward to exploring the forums further and adding any useful input where I can.
Respect.

Well one of the thing's you have to do , to post to development-related forums, is have 10 or more post's.

dys1exic said:
Hi XDA Community.
Just recently bought a (Verizon) Moto X DE and am excited to join the XDA forums. This will be my first Android device (coming from iOS) and look forward to diving into rooting etc.. I've been reading and learning a lot on this forum and others since I received the phone a couple of days ago. I plan on spending a decent amount of time tinkering with my new toy and hopefully can add my experiences to the community for other newcomers like myself going forward.
A few of things I'll be starting off with based on the research I've already done:
1. Unlocking the bootloader on my Moto X DE
2. Rooting on 4.4 KitKat
3. Enabling native tethering
4. Installing Xposed and Gravity Box
5. ????
6. Profit
Let me know if you guys have any general tips or noobie advice. I don't have a ton of free time these days, but I look forward to exploring the forums further and adding any useful input where I can.
Respect.
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Welcome! I think you will love this phone. I don't know if your list was intended to be in order, but I suggest installing the Moto Tether module in Xposed to very easily get native tethering. It is far simpler than the other methods floating around out there. Only other advice I can give you (and it looks like you are already well on your way toward doing this) is to read a lot before you ask questions. 9 times out of 10 your question has already been answered somewhere, and the old-timers around here don't like answering the same questions over and over. Enjoy your X!

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Welcome! I think you will love this phone. I don't know if your list was intended to be in order, but I suggest installing the Moto Tether module in Xposed to very easily get native tethering. It is far simpler than the other methods floating around out there. Only other advice I can give you (and it looks like you are already well on your way toward doing this) is to read a lot before you ask questions. 9 times out of 10 your question has already been answered somewhere, and the old-timers around here don't like answering the same questions over and over. Enjoy your X!
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its not that we dont like answering the same questions over and over it is just we have taken the time to make these threads with all the answer and get them stickyed and no one reads them before posting lol. one of the reason why i havent created the general questions and answers yet. wait for all this 4.4.2 stuff to get over with and see what error we get before i throw it up.

Welcome! I think you'll enjoy yourself here. And the steps you've already done should be enough for a great and interesting experience. You can also try different launchers, like nova, aviate or themer, to customize your experience even more.

Thanks all for the welcomes. Personally, I think the search-and-read-before-posting guidelines apply to most all forums and not just XDA.
Anywho, I appreciate the feed back/advice re: the tethering module on Xposed. Will definitely check that out. Also it's prolly worth mentioning that I primarily use a Mac as my main machine. I'll be happy to post any simple advice I can as I go along. I can easily boot up into Windows if I feel that its too much of a hassle on Mac.

I'm not much for welcoming, but you made a great decision by going developer edition. I would seriously research using fastboot. There are a lot of other tools here, and they all work well enough, but people left and right are bricking their phones using ez mode toolkits cause they don't know how they work and what they are really doing. Hell I'll admit I don't know how they work because they are unnecessary. I've had 3 different 4.4.2 builds from 3 different countries and never came close to bricking. Last night I finally went T-Mobile 4.4.2 I was fully stock, upgraded and rerooted and flashed recovery in 20 mins while playing video games online. Seriously, learn to use fastboot you'll thank me later.
MotoX Developer Edition went from German 4.4.2 to Great Britain 4.4.2 to T-Mobile 4.4.2 no problem. Fastboot FTW!

SymbioticGenius said:
I'm not much for welcoming, but you made a great decision by going developer edition. I would seriously research using fastboot. There are a lot of other tools here, and they all work well enough, but people left and right are bricking their phones using ez mode toolkits cause they don't know how they work and what they are really doing. Hell I'll admit I don't know how they work because they are unnecessary. I've had 3 different 4.4.2 builds from 3 different countries and never came close to bricking. Last night I finally went T-Mobile 4.4.2 I was fully stock, upgraded and rerooted and flashed recovery in 20 mins while playing video games online. Seriously, learn to use fastboot you'll thank me later.
MotoX Developer Edition went from German 4.4.2 to Great Britain 4.4.2 to T-Mobile 4.4.2 no problem. Fastboot FTW!
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Dude fastboot is probably the easiest thing to do as long as you have the commands in front of your face your golden.
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Dude fastboot is probably the easiest thing to do as long as you have the commands in front of your face your golden.
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I'm glad that I always use fastboot. This is probably the best advice you will ever get. Don't rely on tool kits.

Yeah, I manually rooted using fastboot very easily. However I was slowed down a bit trying to use mfastboot at first, which didn't work. Anyone know the difference between these?
Successfully unlocked bootloader, rooted, installed Xposed/all the modules I felt like I needed including MotoX tether and a couple of other neat ones I came across. Currently trying to find a way to access Google Now commands offline, ie: set alarms/reminders without data connection. Thinking that this method should work: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2571466 but I'm trying to figure out if I can accomplish the same thing with a free Tasker-like app.
It seems like Tasker is an absolute buy must for serious Android users. I'm thinking that I'll eventually have to just shell out the $3 for it...

dys1exic said:
Yeah, I manually rooted using fastboot very easily. However I was slowed down a bit trying to use mfastboot at first, which didn't work. Anyone know the difference between these?
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mfastboot doesn't have the file size limitations that fastboot has. Where did you get your copy of mfastboot from? It is a Motorola utility so it will work fine if you get it from Motorola when you request the factory images.

[Q] Can my phone get root?

I've been trying to figure out on the forums which device has which path to get root and wow it doesn't make sense to me. I'm no noobie but I don't get all the updates and processes.
I just want root so i can use Xposed. i don't care about loading different roms or kernels.
I bought it from swappa. It has android version 4.4, system 140.44.5.ghost_att.en.US, Build 13.11.1Q2.X-69-3
this thing sucks HARD without root. there is so much you could do that you can't. It astounds me how diligently manufacturers and carriers are about preventing you from using the phone to its fullest. So i void a warranty, i don't care...

a10fjet said:
I've been trying to figure out on the forums which device has which path to get root and wow it doesn't make sense to me. I'm no noobie but I don't get all the updates and processes.
I just want root so i can use Xposed. i don't care about loading different roms or kernels.
I bought it from swappa. It has android version 4.4, system 140.44.5.ghost_att.en.US, Build 13.11.1Q2.X-69-3
this thing sucks HARD without root. there is so much you could do that you can't. It astounds me how diligently manufacturers and carriers are about preventing you from using the phone to its fullest. So i void a warranty, i don't care...
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I have an AT&T Moto X running Kit Kat 4.4 (from OTA) and I'm also not clear on whether I can root my phone. I'm also unclear about whether I can unlock my phone
I would also appreciate guidance and direction.
Many thanks!

The AT&T branded Moto X cannot be unlocked, but the GSM unlocked DE will work on AT&T and is unlockable. The TMobile Moto Maker Moto X will work on AT&T and has an unlockable bootloader, too, but if you unlock the bootloader on it, your warranty is void. So I would stick with the GSM unlocked DE. There may be some issues with 4G LTE on AT&T using the TMobile devices but I am not sure. That is probably covered in the forum somewhere if there are any issues.
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Okay, so I can root, but not unlock. I think I'll wait till an easier and simpler root method is developed like there was for my Samsung GS2.
I appreciate the guidance.

CartlandSmith said:
We are lucky to even have this method. Google is making Android more and more secure by incorporating SELinux. If a root method for 4.4.2 is ever found, it will likely be even more complicated.
4.4 Security Enhancements
Also, the dev who came up with the current root method, jcase, is not interested in finding a root method for Motorola phones running 4.4.2.
So rooting now is likely your only chance at rooting. If you take the 4.4.2 OTA unrooted, it is doubtful you will ever be able to gain root because the 4.4.2 bootloader is not downgreadable.
Since the developer edition phones are so readily available from Motorola at such a good price and since only AT&T and Verizon retail/customized phones are not unlockable, there isn't much interest in trying to find a way to root locked Motorola phones running 4.4.2. Sprint, US Cellular and TMobile retail/customized Moto X's are unlockable as are the developer edition Moto X's.
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Thanks for the thoughtful and informed reply, Cartland. My last phone was a Samsung GS2 and it was easy to root (all automated). Though I have rooted and flashed ROMs on a number of phones, this process seems complicated and readily screw-upable (not a real word, I admit). I like being rooted, so I can flash tweaked-out ROMs that are better than stock.
I'll explore rooting more and see how comfortable I am with it.
Much appreciated.

CartlandSmith said:
We are lucky to even have this method. Google is making Android more and more secure by incorporating SELinux. If a root method for 4.4.2 is ever found, it will likely be even more complicated.
4.4 Security Enhancements
Also, the dev who came up with the current root method, jcase, is not interested in finding a root method for Motorola phones running 4.4.2.
So rooting now is likely your only chance at rooting. If you take the 4.4.2 OTA unrooted, it is doubtful you will ever be able to gain root because the 4.4.2 bootloader is not downgreadable.
Since the developer edition phones are so readily available from Motorola at such a good price and since only AT&T and Verizon retail/customized phones are not unlockable, there isn't much interest in trying to find a way to root locked Motorola phones running 4.4.2. Sprint, US Cellular and TMobile retail/customized Moto X's are unlockable as are the developer edition Moto X's.
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CartlandSmith said:
It takes some time to do it. I did it on a relative's phone. There are unfortunately some pointers that are left out of the original posts that help everything to go smoothly if you know them. You can find them in the threads, but the threads have gotten so long it makes the process take longer when you have to read through them to find all of the pointers.
If you are only flashing using RSD Lite - RSD Lite will stop you from bricking your phone.
You are never going to get a simpler method with a locked bootloader Motorola phone - it is only going to get harder and I predict the devs won't invest much energy in it going forward because it is just not worth it when there are developer editions available to us. I think those that are doing it get a kick out of it, but when it becomes too time consuming, well, they have their day jobs they have to make sure they focus enough time on to pay their bills. They get donations for this sort of thing, but I am sure the donations don't compensate them very well for all of the time they take trying to find exploits the more secure Android becomes.
With a locked bootloader, you can't flash ROMs because you don't have a custom recovery. But what you can do it use Xposed Framework and its modules like Gravity Box if you are rooted.
I spent some time this weekend rooting a relative's Verizon Moto X with a locked bootloader due to the 4.4.2 OTA coming. You have some breathing room on AT&T right now to root, but don't wait too long or you will lose the opportunity once the OTA comes.
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I don't think I have the time or energy to go through the process of finding those pointers and then going through the root method. I'm wondering if anyone will compile those pointers (as you suggest, I have noticed with previous rooting and flashing methods, some key steps aren't described which can cause major problems).
A clarification. You say that if I just want to flash ROMs, I can use RSD Lite. But then you say that with a locked bootloader, you can't flash ROMs.
I do appreciate your taking the time.

POINTER - sell or trade your phone for a Dev edition

It is difficult to root if you can't unlock your bootloader. There is a thread in this forum telling you how to root your device with both locked and unlocked bootloader.

Rooting this device isn't difficult. If you can read and type verbatim, letter for letter, you can get root. People need to stop psyching themselves and others out.

CartlandSmith said:
Yes you can get root, but it takes a bit of work
First you have to downgrade to 4.2.2 by flashing the sbf firmware for your device.
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can you specify what sbf is? searching didn't help. Try not to use so many acronyms for us dummies.
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Then use RockMyMoto to get root on 4.2.2. Then use MotoWPNoMo to disable write protection.
Then reflash 4.2.2 and use SlapMyMoto.
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do i use ODIN? what do i use to flash?
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You will be rooted on 4.4 and write protection will be disabled when you are done with all of that.
Once you have root, be sure and freeze MotorolaOTA to stop the 4.4.2 OTA. If you take the 4.4.2 OTA, you may keep root, but write protection will be enabled.
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Does motorolaOTA automatically download the latest updates and install them without warning you?
thanks for giving me hope!
EDIT: does anyone know if http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/script-root-moto-x-root-script-locked-t2603051 will work?

I'm getting close to knowing what to do!
But the individual steps are not very well written.
For example on the RockMyMoto page, he just starts giving you commands. He doesn't tell you what to type them into. In the video, everything is already open. I tried the command in cydia impactor and it didn't do anything. I though maybe you do it in adb, I don't really know what that is but I found adb.exe and launched it but the command window it opens goes through a bunch of commands and then closes. I can't even get past step one because he never said how he got to the point where he starts!
CartlandSmith said, in the third post, that i am supposed to reflash 4.2.2 at the end.. Did he mean 4.4? Or 4.2.2 then slapmymoto then take 4.4 over the air?
It would be really helpful (to me at least) if someone could put step by step instructions. Like humiliatingly degradingly redundant instructions for a complete idiot. I will put them up if I ever figure it all out. It's so frustrating when the instructions are so detailed from where they start, but they never show you how they got to where they are.
Thanks to everyone for the help.
EDIT: probably stupid question but does the phone ever need to be connected by USB? none of the posts mention it but all other devices i've used needed it. adb (here is a tutorial)/ isn't recognizing my device with USB connection or not. Both connected to same router, all drivers and everything updated, Debugging enabled...

No offense intended...at all....but if you value your phone, you really need to study up and read LOTS of stuff here. Until you understand what you are about to do, don't do anything.
Just trying to save you from a bricked phone. You seem very unsure of everything at this point. No one can post anything here that isn't already covered in the guides. Look at the stickies, complete Moto x guide is there.
Good luck.
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Hmm i rebooted my computer and factory reset my X and now everything is connecting. Guess you should always try the IT Crowd's advice before doing anything else lol
I agree that everything is covered on this site, it's just not organized.

It seems unorganized when you don't understand. Read enough of it and it all makes sense eventually. This has everything about bootloaders, rooting...etc. BUT, you need to know what applies to your situation. And again...that comes when you understand the stuff.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
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It's even more clear how unorganized the info here is the more educated you become.
The thing that becomes the most clear eventually is how much misinformation is posted.
Sorry but the "it only appears disorganized and unreadable and full of misinformation" because you don't understand it won't fly with those of us who do understand it.
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The OP of the thread I linked is well organized. Its about the only one that is. Its also stickied, so should be incredibly easy to find.
As far as misinformation goes, that's due to people being quick to post advice when they clearly don't have a handle on this stuff themselves.
How to avoid the clutter and misinformation? Maybe point people to good threads that already exist instead of filling new ones with more misinformation. No? Or God forbid, suggest they search for the information that already exists? Instead of helping to grow yet another repeated thread with both good and poor information within it.
Xda's number one rule was created for a reason. To keep clutter and thread after thread of similar content to a minimum. A lot of inaccurate information gets repeated over and over as well. But, so many refuse to search cause its too much work, and just as many others condone this behavior by answering.
I know most don't agree with what I'm saying, as the forums prove with the repeated information here in truck loads. And I also know when any of us remind people of rule number one here on xda....we're called trolls, flamers and much worse....even when the reminder was posted respectfully.
So who exactly are the flamers? LOL
Its looking like reminding members to search and read and actually help them help themselves is becoming a dangerous practice. I'm tired of the misinformation and cluttered forums....and if reminding is just going to start drama at every turn, I suppose reporting the offenders is the easier option. Tho not my first choice.
But if you read this carefully, you'll see I'm completely agreeing with you. LOL. So lets agree to agree and leave it at that.
And as a member who's been around a while, I won't stop doing my part to try to cut down the misinformation and lack of respect for the xda rules. Not abiding by rule number one is EXACTLY why the mess of confusing information exists. You see that, right?
If the newer members want to make me the bad guy for this, fine. I'll be the bad guy.
And I help more people here than most as well.....but that's forgotten if you disagree with anyone or remind anyone of the rules here. Fine. Again.....call me the bad guy. Better get used to it too, I'm not going anywhere.
I'd apologize for the off topic, but this thread should have been closed anyway.
Have a good one!
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CartlandSmith said:
The most confusing thing of all is why someone with a Nexus 5 self-appoints themselves to be the "hall monitor" of the Moto X forums. *shrugs*
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Um, perhaps I own both.
How bout you drop it and stop commenting on multiple posts of mine since you appear to dislike the things I say. K?
Try the ignore member feature.
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Please search before posting
Check the sticky guides before asking questions about rooting
Thanks
FNSM

kennyglass123 said:
Please search before posting
Check the sticky guides before asking questions about rooting
Thanks
FNSM
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Ninja'd .....:good:

Looking into the future?

XDA has become part of my morning routine now days. Getting up, eating and checking to see if any breakthrough came with the Sprint G4. I may just be blind, however I don't see anything coming soon. Granted it's a /newer/ phone which plays a huge role. Anyways does anybody know of anything relating to what's going on with the Sprint G4 rooting process or possible new ROMS that may be coming out if I didn't see a root already available?
Note: I'm also not the most knowledgeable when it comes to this but I know my fair share.

You should probably follow this thread for now:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3163925

tourbound129 said:
You should probably follow this thread for now:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3163925
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Thank-you for the link! After I posted this I found another thread where a few developers have managed to get root with all carriers however it isn't necessarily the "easiest" way to succeed in their efforts. They just don't want so many bricked phones which I understand. However, thank-you again!

this crap is taking ridiculously long.

iiEatTurdz said:
this crap is taking ridiculously long.
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Sprint G4 is already rooted, and chances of bootloader unlock are slim to none.
Tisch22 said:
Thank-you for the link! After I posted this I found another thread where a few developers have managed to get root with all carriers however it isn't necessarily the "easiest" way to succeed in their efforts. They just don't want so many bricked phones which I understand. However, thank-you again!
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If you follow the directions carefully then its not so bad.