I feel like a noob, but - Moto X Q&A

Okay, so I've rooted a lot of other phones before and ran roms. But I'm confused as to where to start with the Moto x. I have the AT&T variant, on 4.4. I'm personally really interested in running eclipse. But, I'm not even sure where to start, I'm not rooted, just running the stock ota. Any help would be awesome!

So if you did some searching your questions would be answered. Prior ask this question everyday You need to use SlapMyMoto to root your phone
You need to download rsd lite and the at&t 4.2.2 camera update and flash your phone back to 4.2.2 then follow the guide
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dj923 said:
Okay, so I've rooted a lot of other phones before and ran roms. But I'm confused as to where to start with the Moto x. I have the AT&T variant, on 4.4. I'm personally really interested in running eclipse. But, I'm not even sure where to start, I'm not rooted, just running the stock ota. Any help would be awesome!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2556400

dray_jr said:
So if you did some searching your questions would be answered. Prior ask this question everyday You need to use SlapMyMoto to root your phone
You need to download rsd lite and the at&t 4.2.2 camera update and flash your phone back to 4.2.2 then follow the guide
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but how do i get safestrap? is it just included in the rooting process? or is it a separate thing I have to flash?

dj923 said:
but how do i get safestrap? is it just included in the rooting process? or is it a separate thing I have to flash?
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ok i am not trying to be mean what so ever but i cant stand helping someone who cant help them self's every question you have asked can be answered by looking and read the threads. i just feel like you have not even looked around for anything. so i am going to post some links and you need to read them before you ask any other questions
almost every question you have asked is answered in one thread so please read this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2558785
and here is your safestrap thread
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/104161-recovery-locked-safestrap-recovery-v365-2013-11-13/

dray_jr said:
ok i am not trying to be mean what so ever but i cant stand helping someone who cant help them self's every question you have asked can be answered by looking and read the threads. i just feel like you have not even looked around for anything. so i am going to post some links and you need to read them before you ask any other questions
almost every question you have asked is answered in one thread so please read this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2558785
and here is your safestrap thread
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/104161-recovery-locked-safestrap-recovery-v365-2013-11-13/
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I agree...however from experience.. It can be overwhelming.. First and for most OP u need to get back to 4.2.2 use RSD to flash back to 4.2.2 then follow slapmymoto to get root (after being done u can go back to 4.4 currently its what I'm on) as far as safestrap.. Its just a download.. I went directly to there site..hash of coe.. just remember BEFORE U FLASH ECLIPSE...MAKE AN NANDROID BACKUP!!! ( in case of an "oh s*it" moment) if u have questions msg me I'll help with what I can..mom running the "amazing" Verizon...
Slapped my Moto

xpsychox said:
I agree...however from experience.. It can be overwhelming..
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If he was completely new to Android and rooting, I'd understand how it can be overwhelming. However, the op has a lot of experience.
I always search first then ask questions if I don't understand. I don't understand why people make rooting this phone more difficult and complicated than it really is... ESPECIALLY the dev edition...

nhizzat said:
If he was completely new to Android and rooting, I'd understand how it can be overwhelming. However, the op has a lot of experience.
I always search first then ask questions if I don't understand. I don't understand why people make rooting this phone more difficult and complicated than it really is... ESPECIALLY the dev edition...
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I have a lot of XP too...still confused me.. I've owned and rooted the droid x the droid x2 the droid 2 the droid 3 bionic and RAZR.. Even converted the RAZR into the maxx... Don't judge a book by its cover.
I'm not saying he shouldn't have done his research.. Its ur phone..u should at least take 5 min to look...ull spend Kore time waiting on an answer...lol he also NVR mentioned if it was Dev edition..or non..
Slapped my Moto

xpsychox said:
I have a lot of XP too...still confused me.. I've owned and rooted the droid x the droid x2 the droid 2 the droid 3 bionic and RAZR.. Even converted the RAZR into the maxx... Don't judge a book by its cover.
I'm not saying he shouldn't have done his research.. Its ur phone..u should at least take 5 min to look...ull spend Kore time waiting on an answer...lol he also NVR mentioned if it was Dev edition..or non..
Slapped my Moto
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Totally agree with that. Guys make posts or start threads asking something that even a quick Google search will give them an answer to in 30 seconds.....But they ask instead and wait hours sometimes for an answer. I occasionally comment to them on this....But usually I just ignore the question. Again, one reason why they wait hours for an answer.
I firmly believe if someone is going to mess around with their expensive phone, they should read read read....and search for answers and eventually learn how all this stuff works. Not just blindly follow what people tell them to do. Not all advice is good advice either. Lol
If you don't learn about this stuff on your own guys....your risk of bricking your device will be much higher.
Lecture over.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....

kj2112 said:
Totally agree with that. Guys make posts or start threads asking something that even a quick Google search will give them an answer to in 30 seconds.....But they ask instead and wait hours sometimes for an answer. I occasionally comment to them on this....But usually I just ignore the question. Again, one reason why they wait hours for an answer.
I firmly believe if someone is going to mess around with their expensive phone, they should read read read....and search for answers and eventually learn how all this stuff works. Not just blindly follow what people tell them to do. Not all advice is good advice either. Lol
If you don't learn about this stuff on your own guys....your risk of bricking your device will be much higher.
Lecture over.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
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Agreed.. Couldn't have said it better myself.. If ur gunna take the time to post and wait for an answer.. Look it up 9 time out of 10 ull find it faster than u post! Lol..
Slapped my Moto

It is rather overwhelming when it comes to rooting the Moto X. I can entirely see where the OP is coming from. I have read what I can find on the subject. IT IS OVERWHELMING and YES, CAN VERY WELL BE CONFUSING. I have also rooted many devices. It would be very nice to have an easier root process but we have to work with what we have right now.

DanRo80 said:
It is rather overwhelming when it comes to rooting the Moto X. I can entirely see where the OP is coming from. I have read what I can find on the subject. IT IS OVERWHELMING and YES, CAN VERY WELL BE CONFUSING. I have also rooted many devices. It would be very nice to have an easier root process but we have to work with what we have right now.
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i mean. i was "overwhelmed" i guess when i first got into messing around with my phone. But it was only overwhelming because i knew what i wanted to do and wanted to do it as fast as possible without understanding anything. If you just read for 5 hours instead of 30 minutes then it isn't overwhelming at all. It just takes longer than most people expect to understand everything they are doing. So they don't take the time. End up running commands and doing things they think some post told to do somewhere without any idea of what they are doing and boinking their phone up. If instead when they came across something they weren't sure what it was and then took time to read/research what it actually was, they wouldn't feel overwhelmed anymore.
Overwhelming comes from taking tiny tid bits of info and trying to make them make sense together. If you read a ton, its not overwhelming to make large tid bits of information you have accumulated make sense together. IMHO.
I didn't do it the way i just described but i also spent days on end trying to unbrick my phones. I then had to spend countless hours actually understanding what i just did so that i can manually fix them. Rsdlite and toolkits are cool and all, but they allow people with little experience to get into trouble where they need lots of experience to get out of that trouble. Also considering everyone that knows what is going on just says read read read and it isnt overwhelming anymore, they are probably spot on (wwhether they followed that process or not).

jayboyyyy said:
i mean. i was "overwhelmed" i guess when i first got into messing around with my phone. But it was only overwhelming because i knew what i wanted to do and wanted to do it as fast as possible without understanding anything. If you just read for 5 hours instead of 30 minutes then it isn't overwhelming at all. It just takes longer than most people expect to understand everything they are doing. So they don't take the time. End up running commands and doing things they think some post told to do somewhere without any idea of what they are doing and boinking their phone up. If instead when they came across something they weren't sure what it was and then took time to read/research what it actually was, they wouldn't feel overwhelmed anymore.
Overwhelming comes from taking tiny tid bits of info and trying to make them make sense together. If you read a ton, its not overwhelming to make large tid bits of information you have accumulated make sense together. IMHO.
I didn't do it the way i just described but i also spent days on end trying to unbrick my phones. I then had to spend countless hours actually understanding what i just did so that i can manually fix them. Rsdlite and toolkits are cool and all, but they allow people with little experience to get into trouble where they need lots of experience to get out of that trouble. Also considering everyone that knows what is going on just says read read read and it isnt overwhelming anymore, they are probably spot on (wwhether they followed that process or not).
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Well said sir!
Slapped my Moto

Any guess let's get back on topic I may have made my comment but I also pointed him in the right direction to answer his question. But flaming the kid repeated is not needed. OP did you get everything taken care of
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dray_jr said:
Any guess let's get back on topic I may have made my comment but I also pointed him in the right direction to answer his question. But flaming the kid repeated is not needed. OP did you get everything taken care of
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I agree...happen to me on one of my posts... And I agree.. OP.. Fixed? Or still same issues?
Slapped my Moto

Related

Should I Rom

Should i Rom
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Um...that depends. Do you want to?
If you're comfortable with flashing then I would, if not then probably no.
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should you rom?
if you have to ask....
NO.
you should read.
then decide for yourself.
and know what you are doing before you are the 4th person in 24 hours to PERMANENTLY brick thier phone.
rom? no.... not yet at least...
read yes.
TRusselo said:
should you rom?
if you have to ask....
NO.
you should read.
then decide for yourself.
and know what you are doing before you are the 4th person in 24 hours to PERMANENTLY brick thier phone.
rom? no.... not yet at least...
read yes.
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I absolutely agree with this answer. If you are thinking of flashing a ROM, what is the reason you are thinking about doing it? If you decide to go for it, then absolutely make sure you know completely what you are doing by reading as much as you can. Research first will save grief and frustration later. Let's just say I learned that the hard way. The only time I had any issues was when I didn't follow this advice.
Good luck with whichever way you decide to go.
TRusselo said:
should you rom?
if you have to ask....
NO.
you should read.
then decide for yourself.
and know what you are doing before you are the 4th person in 24 hours to PERMANENTLY brick thier phone.
rom? no.... not yet at least...
read yes.
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^^^THIS^^^
Damn 4 ppl in a day...wow
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Just take time to read and understand the while process before you start flashing. DO NOT try and figure out stuff as you go, as that is how stupid mistakes are made and you mess up your phone.
Check to make sure the 3 button combo for recovery and download modes are working, and just know and follow the steps laid out in the many tutorials you can find here on xda. If you can follow directions at all, your phone will soon be doing sweet ****, and you will probably become addicted to flashing and trying new things.
I am not all that knowledgeable about how stuff works, so I never try and modify stuff that hasn't been tried and tested by somebody else, and I've never run into any serious problems. I've flashed too many roms to remember, and never screwed up my phone beyond a simple fix, all thanks to a little careful reading.
Once you flash your first rom successfully, the process is simple and fun. Just make sure and read the thread for each rom you want to try carefully so that you know of all possible issues, and you shouldn't have any problems.
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Make sure you know all the worst things that can happen. Not to scare you from doing it. On the contrary, once you know what's the worst, and you know how to fix it or prevent it, you're good to go.
Like everyone here says (because it's true) READ everything. Read the WHOLE OPs and multiple pages of everything. If someone had problem with something, they probably already mentioned it somewhere in the 23482 pages (it sucks, but you rather spend some time reading than have a dead phone).
At first everything will be uncertain (first time watching the bar go across the download mode screen when flashing from Odin) and sometimes you'll feel like you've bricked your phone. Just read the threads about ACTUAL bricked phones to know what NOT to do.
Actually, what I suggest is to find a rom that you like, but more importantly has REALLY thorough documentation about how to install. Once you do it a couple of times it'll be smooth sailing from there, and you'll be able to work with any kind of rom easily (terminology and stuff becomes more familiar too).
glhf
I got an rma phone and i am not sure if i should rom
mwiz123 said:
I got an rma phone and i am not sure if i should rom
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So you ask the same question in a different format. Tell us that you at least read some of the replies above. Right?
Talk to people that have rommed (if that's a word. If not, then Copyright bdgiese90 2011). If they know your phone well and can help if you have questions beyond what is answered in OP's, then you can make a choice from that too. But seriously. Do your reading first. Installing a ROM isn't something other people decide for you.
And one more thing. Don't ask the same question again with different wording. Read what all of these intelligent people are posting to you. Believe it or not, they ARE helpful
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You sound ambivalent and unsure. Bad combination. Step away from the phone before you hurt it.

[Q] can anyone gimme ics rom and blackrose for nexus one

can any one give me the rom for ics for nexus one and blackrose?
darknecro98 said:
can any one give me the rom for ics for nexus one and blackrose?
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First of all, I am going to assume (perhaps wrongly) that you are 14 years-old (from your user name), and believe me when I tell you: I know that age is hard, and I know because I've been there, however, no matter how hard it was for me I knew that if I dared asking my mother what a word meant, I'd get immediate attention and instructions to f-off and check up on a dictionary (there was no wikipedia nor google back then) and that no-one else was going to do for me what I didn't do by myself, it is with such background that I want to tell you something:
Last saturday I decided to try ICS on my N1, I had no idea where to start since it had been over 8 months when I last did anything to my phone. Still it took me 25 minutes to not only find the right thread, read it, understand it, download the stuff I needed, and read again to make sure I am not doing something dumb, it also was enough time to actually do the whole process.
Now, considering you already found your way into XDA-Developers and you know how to read threads and know how to post questions, I'd say you have wasted approximately 1 hour thinking somebody is actually going to give you the ROM for ICS and Blackrose, let alone baby-walk you through the process.
I am going to assume that most devs are ignoring this thread (and rightly so) as well as most respected members (and I'd like to consider myself a quiet, self-respected member) but still, I do believe its good to take a bit of time from everyday routine to let someone else know "hey! you are doing it wrong" and hopefully get into that person's head and make that little switch go click.
If after all of this you still feel entitled to have someone hand you over a couple of files, please by all means head over to this location: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
Thanks and have a great life!
srry im very new here and i couldnt get my way around and ive been checking for hours on the files for ics on the N1 and had nothing but thanks for ur reply
as i said, again im extremely new to all of this and i dont know how to put ROMs in the phone and how to just do any of this if anyone can just give me something from where i can start i will be gladly appreciated
See, now that is different and worth of paying at least a little bit of attention. However I don't believe you have spent hours without making some sense of anything, at least you know about ICS and Blackrose, you may have a rough idea of what you want to accomplish, and so I'll point you in the right direction by telling you to look for the very first thread on the android development forum for nexus one, the one referring to the wiki and to now read it instead of skipping it as you probably did the first time. I'm sure if you read through it you'll understand the basics and will be able to figure it out really soon.
Good luck.
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Dnt be discouraged...everyone was once a noob. Just as the above user said check out texasice ics and bcm ics.we will help u in every way..read the forums and POSTs ...not just the first and 2nd..
thank you for the reply and i will check the first android development on the n1 and go step by step understanding everything
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darknecro98 said:
can any one give me the rom for ics for nexus one and blackrose?
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I use this one in my (now replaced by SGS3) nexus one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366897
You should read the instructions carefully, the process involves a few steps...
Note that there are 2 o 3 ICS ROMs for Nexus One, and they all have some glitches (USB tethering, camera, SoDs) but they are quite usable.

New to Moto X - Root?

just got the Moto X (verizon) - it was 4.2.2 already installed. I have not had time to read through all of the threads, but should I root before accepting the update? and is there a bootloader unlock procedure for this device?
thanks!
you have to Root before you update to 4.4 if you do not you will have to downgrade back to the 4.2.2 camera update and follow the guide in the link below to achieve root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896
You should make time to read. You made time to post this thread so it's obvious you're not that short on time.
After all, it IS your phone.
nhizzat said:
You should make time to read. You made time to post this thread so it's obvious you're not that short on time.
After all, it IS your phone.
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i agree look threw everything and learn as much as u can so you dont have any issues.
nhizzat said:
You should make time to read. You made time to post this thread so it's obvious you're not that short on time.
After all, it IS your phone.
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Wow
jco23 said:
just got the Moto X (verizon) - it was 4.2.2 already installed. I have not had time to read through all of the threads, but should I root before accepting the update? and is there a bootloader unlock procedure for this device?
thanks!
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Unless you have the Developer Edition, Verizon Moto X's bootloaders cannot be unlocked now, and likely never will. If you have the DE, just go to Moto's site, and follow the instructions there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2556400
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thanks for the feedback y'all. I went ahead and accepted the 2 OTA's - all is going well thus far. I've got some reading to do, and looking forward to contributing to this forum.
jco23 said:
thanks for the feedback y'all. I went ahead and accepted the 2 OTA's - all is going well thus far. I've got some reading to do, and looking forward to contributing to this forum.
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So your on 4.4? To root you need yo flash back to 4.2.2 camera update. Root with rockmymoto, use motowpnomo flash back to 4.2.2 camera update non rooted. Then root using slapmymoto. During the slap process you will be promoted to take 4.4 OTA.
slapped the sh*t out of my X
nhizzat said:
You should make time to read. You made time to post this thread so it's obvious you're not that short on time.
After all, it IS your phone.
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first off, if anyone around here can make d-bag comments, it should be me, not someone with less than 200 posts and only 35 thanks in nearly 3 years.... I was really looking for a quick response, as I just got the phone, and did not have time to conduct my normal research before making my decision (my prior device was stolen, so I had to make an impulse buy).
So anyhow, curious to see if anyone has tried to encrypt their phone (i'm considering this due to my recent experience), and if that will impact root. My ideal situation would be to have a rooted device that is encrypted. Since I got my device on Wednesday, I should have some time to experiment - I can always claim that after accepting the OTA, it bricked.
jco23 said:
first off, if anyone around here can make d-bag comments, it should be me, not someone with less than 200 posts and only 35 thanks in nearly 3 years.... I was really looking for a quick response, as I just got the phone, and did not have time to conduct my normal research before making my decision (my prior device was stolen, so I had to make an impulse buy).
So anyhow, curious to see if anyone has tried to encrypt their phone (i'm considering this due to my recent experience), and if that will impact root. My ideal situation would be to have a rooted device that is encrypted. Since I got my device on Wednesday, I should have some time to experiment - I can always claim that after accepting the OTA, it bricked.
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I have not encrypted but I am thinking of doing..I am on Verizon with moto x and fully rooted on 4.4
Slapped my Moto
jco23 said:
first off, if anyone around here can make d-bag comments, it should be me, not someone with less than 200 posts and only 35 thanks in nearly 3 years.... I was really looking for a quick response, as I just got the phone, and did not have time to conduct my normal research before making my decision (my prior device was stolen, so I had to make an impulse buy).
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Gotta love the sense of entitlement. Basically what you're telling me is that your time is more valuable than my time. Why should I care more about your device than you? You had enough time to post your question, yet you were too busy to click one of the development sub-forums to take a quick glance at the busiest threads?
What does an impulse buy have to do with figuring out how to root your new phone? I figure an OG like you should be able to find information on how to root a device.

[Q] Can my phone get root?

I've been trying to figure out on the forums which device has which path to get root and wow it doesn't make sense to me. I'm no noobie but I don't get all the updates and processes.
I just want root so i can use Xposed. i don't care about loading different roms or kernels.
I bought it from swappa. It has android version 4.4, system 140.44.5.ghost_att.en.US, Build 13.11.1Q2.X-69-3
this thing sucks HARD without root. there is so much you could do that you can't. It astounds me how diligently manufacturers and carriers are about preventing you from using the phone to its fullest. So i void a warranty, i don't care...
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I've been trying to figure out on the forums which device has which path to get root and wow it doesn't make sense to me. I'm no noobie but I don't get all the updates and processes.
I just want root so i can use Xposed. i don't care about loading different roms or kernels.
I bought it from swappa. It has android version 4.4, system 140.44.5.ghost_att.en.US, Build 13.11.1Q2.X-69-3
this thing sucks HARD without root. there is so much you could do that you can't. It astounds me how diligently manufacturers and carriers are about preventing you from using the phone to its fullest. So i void a warranty, i don't care...
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I have an AT&T Moto X running Kit Kat 4.4 (from OTA) and I'm also not clear on whether I can root my phone. I'm also unclear about whether I can unlock my phone
I would also appreciate guidance and direction.
Many thanks!
The AT&T branded Moto X cannot be unlocked, but the GSM unlocked DE will work on AT&T and is unlockable. The TMobile Moto Maker Moto X will work on AT&T and has an unlockable bootloader, too, but if you unlock the bootloader on it, your warranty is void. So I would stick with the GSM unlocked DE. There may be some issues with 4G LTE on AT&T using the TMobile devices but I am not sure. That is probably covered in the forum somewhere if there are any issues.
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Okay, so I can root, but not unlock. I think I'll wait till an easier and simpler root method is developed like there was for my Samsung GS2.
I appreciate the guidance.
CartlandSmith said:
We are lucky to even have this method. Google is making Android more and more secure by incorporating SELinux. If a root method for 4.4.2 is ever found, it will likely be even more complicated.
4.4 Security Enhancements
Also, the dev who came up with the current root method, jcase, is not interested in finding a root method for Motorola phones running 4.4.2.
So rooting now is likely your only chance at rooting. If you take the 4.4.2 OTA unrooted, it is doubtful you will ever be able to gain root because the 4.4.2 bootloader is not downgreadable.
Since the developer edition phones are so readily available from Motorola at such a good price and since only AT&T and Verizon retail/customized phones are not unlockable, there isn't much interest in trying to find a way to root locked Motorola phones running 4.4.2. Sprint, US Cellular and TMobile retail/customized Moto X's are unlockable as are the developer edition Moto X's.
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Thanks for the thoughtful and informed reply, Cartland. My last phone was a Samsung GS2 and it was easy to root (all automated). Though I have rooted and flashed ROMs on a number of phones, this process seems complicated and readily screw-upable (not a real word, I admit). I like being rooted, so I can flash tweaked-out ROMs that are better than stock.
I'll explore rooting more and see how comfortable I am with it.
Much appreciated.
CartlandSmith said:
We are lucky to even have this method. Google is making Android more and more secure by incorporating SELinux. If a root method for 4.4.2 is ever found, it will likely be even more complicated.
4.4 Security Enhancements
Also, the dev who came up with the current root method, jcase, is not interested in finding a root method for Motorola phones running 4.4.2.
So rooting now is likely your only chance at rooting. If you take the 4.4.2 OTA unrooted, it is doubtful you will ever be able to gain root because the 4.4.2 bootloader is not downgreadable.
Since the developer edition phones are so readily available from Motorola at such a good price and since only AT&T and Verizon retail/customized phones are not unlockable, there isn't much interest in trying to find a way to root locked Motorola phones running 4.4.2. Sprint, US Cellular and TMobile retail/customized Moto X's are unlockable as are the developer edition Moto X's.
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CartlandSmith said:
It takes some time to do it. I did it on a relative's phone. There are unfortunately some pointers that are left out of the original posts that help everything to go smoothly if you know them. You can find them in the threads, but the threads have gotten so long it makes the process take longer when you have to read through them to find all of the pointers.
If you are only flashing using RSD Lite - RSD Lite will stop you from bricking your phone.
You are never going to get a simpler method with a locked bootloader Motorola phone - it is only going to get harder and I predict the devs won't invest much energy in it going forward because it is just not worth it when there are developer editions available to us. I think those that are doing it get a kick out of it, but when it becomes too time consuming, well, they have their day jobs they have to make sure they focus enough time on to pay their bills. They get donations for this sort of thing, but I am sure the donations don't compensate them very well for all of the time they take trying to find exploits the more secure Android becomes.
With a locked bootloader, you can't flash ROMs because you don't have a custom recovery. But what you can do it use Xposed Framework and its modules like Gravity Box if you are rooted.
I spent some time this weekend rooting a relative's Verizon Moto X with a locked bootloader due to the 4.4.2 OTA coming. You have some breathing room on AT&T right now to root, but don't wait too long or you will lose the opportunity once the OTA comes.
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I don't think I have the time or energy to go through the process of finding those pointers and then going through the root method. I'm wondering if anyone will compile those pointers (as you suggest, I have noticed with previous rooting and flashing methods, some key steps aren't described which can cause major problems).
A clarification. You say that if I just want to flash ROMs, I can use RSD Lite. But then you say that with a locked bootloader, you can't flash ROMs.
I do appreciate your taking the time.
POINTER - sell or trade your phone for a Dev edition
It is difficult to root if you can't unlock your bootloader. There is a thread in this forum telling you how to root your device with both locked and unlocked bootloader.
Rooting this device isn't difficult. If you can read and type verbatim, letter for letter, you can get root. People need to stop psyching themselves and others out.
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Yes you can get root, but it takes a bit of work
First you have to downgrade to 4.2.2 by flashing the sbf firmware for your device.
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can you specify what sbf is? searching didn't help. Try not to use so many acronyms for us dummies.
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Then use RockMyMoto to get root on 4.2.2. Then use MotoWPNoMo to disable write protection.
Then reflash 4.2.2 and use SlapMyMoto.
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do i use ODIN? what do i use to flash?
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You will be rooted on 4.4 and write protection will be disabled when you are done with all of that.
Once you have root, be sure and freeze MotorolaOTA to stop the 4.4.2 OTA. If you take the 4.4.2 OTA, you may keep root, but write protection will be enabled.
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Does motorolaOTA automatically download the latest updates and install them without warning you?
thanks for giving me hope!
EDIT: does anyone know if http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/script-root-moto-x-root-script-locked-t2603051 will work?
I'm getting close to knowing what to do!
But the individual steps are not very well written.
For example on the RockMyMoto page, he just starts giving you commands. He doesn't tell you what to type them into. In the video, everything is already open. I tried the command in cydia impactor and it didn't do anything. I though maybe you do it in adb, I don't really know what that is but I found adb.exe and launched it but the command window it opens goes through a bunch of commands and then closes. I can't even get past step one because he never said how he got to the point where he starts!
CartlandSmith said, in the third post, that i am supposed to reflash 4.2.2 at the end.. Did he mean 4.4? Or 4.2.2 then slapmymoto then take 4.4 over the air?
It would be really helpful (to me at least) if someone could put step by step instructions. Like humiliatingly degradingly redundant instructions for a complete idiot. I will put them up if I ever figure it all out. It's so frustrating when the instructions are so detailed from where they start, but they never show you how they got to where they are.
Thanks to everyone for the help.
EDIT: probably stupid question but does the phone ever need to be connected by USB? none of the posts mention it but all other devices i've used needed it. adb (here is a tutorial)/ isn't recognizing my device with USB connection or not. Both connected to same router, all drivers and everything updated, Debugging enabled...
No offense intended...at all....but if you value your phone, you really need to study up and read LOTS of stuff here. Until you understand what you are about to do, don't do anything.
Just trying to save you from a bricked phone. You seem very unsure of everything at this point. No one can post anything here that isn't already covered in the guides. Look at the stickies, complete Moto x guide is there.
Good luck.
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Hmm i rebooted my computer and factory reset my X and now everything is connecting. Guess you should always try the IT Crowd's advice before doing anything else lol
I agree that everything is covered on this site, it's just not organized.
It seems unorganized when you don't understand. Read enough of it and it all makes sense eventually. This has everything about bootloaders, rooting...etc. BUT, you need to know what applies to your situation. And again...that comes when you understand the stuff.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
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It's even more clear how unorganized the info here is the more educated you become.
The thing that becomes the most clear eventually is how much misinformation is posted.
Sorry but the "it only appears disorganized and unreadable and full of misinformation" because you don't understand it won't fly with those of us who do understand it.
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The OP of the thread I linked is well organized. Its about the only one that is. Its also stickied, so should be incredibly easy to find.
As far as misinformation goes, that's due to people being quick to post advice when they clearly don't have a handle on this stuff themselves.
How to avoid the clutter and misinformation? Maybe point people to good threads that already exist instead of filling new ones with more misinformation. No? Or God forbid, suggest they search for the information that already exists? Instead of helping to grow yet another repeated thread with both good and poor information within it.
Xda's number one rule was created for a reason. To keep clutter and thread after thread of similar content to a minimum. A lot of inaccurate information gets repeated over and over as well. But, so many refuse to search cause its too much work, and just as many others condone this behavior by answering.
I know most don't agree with what I'm saying, as the forums prove with the repeated information here in truck loads. And I also know when any of us remind people of rule number one here on xda....we're called trolls, flamers and much worse....even when the reminder was posted respectfully.
So who exactly are the flamers? LOL
Its looking like reminding members to search and read and actually help them help themselves is becoming a dangerous practice. I'm tired of the misinformation and cluttered forums....and if reminding is just going to start drama at every turn, I suppose reporting the offenders is the easier option. Tho not my first choice.
But if you read this carefully, you'll see I'm completely agreeing with you. LOL. So lets agree to agree and leave it at that.
And as a member who's been around a while, I won't stop doing my part to try to cut down the misinformation and lack of respect for the xda rules. Not abiding by rule number one is EXACTLY why the mess of confusing information exists. You see that, right?
If the newer members want to make me the bad guy for this, fine. I'll be the bad guy.
And I help more people here than most as well.....but that's forgotten if you disagree with anyone or remind anyone of the rules here. Fine. Again.....call me the bad guy. Better get used to it too, I'm not going anywhere.
I'd apologize for the off topic, but this thread should have been closed anyway.
Have a good one!
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CartlandSmith said:
The most confusing thing of all is why someone with a Nexus 5 self-appoints themselves to be the "hall monitor" of the Moto X forums. *shrugs*
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Um, perhaps I own both.
How bout you drop it and stop commenting on multiple posts of mine since you appear to dislike the things I say. K?
Try the ignore member feature.
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Please search before posting
Check the sticky guides before asking questions about rooting
Thanks
FNSM
kennyglass123 said:
Please search before posting
Check the sticky guides before asking questions about rooting
Thanks
FNSM
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Ninja'd .....:good:

[Q] Finally decided to root my note 3

Long time xda fan, first time poster. So, I have a bone stock AT&T Galaxy Note 3 N900AUCUEOC1 running lollipop 5.0. For about a year now I've been contemplating rooting it but I'm worried I'm gonna jack my phone up. Besides replacing my lcd screen I haven't done really too much with it. This will be my first attempt at rooting any phone and I wanted to ask a few questions to get some clarification and direction.
First, what currently is the easiest way to root a droid for someone that doesn't speak a lick of tech?
I've read 10 different ways but if anyone would know, its you guys. Does Kingo work with what I have?
What do I need to do prior to root? I.e, what do I need to download?
Also, could you recommend a decent ROM? Whats a good backup app that will actually work?
Lastly, I have a game ive been playing for a couple years and I dont sign in, it recognizes my phone or something, its on my sd card but will i lose it when I wipe my phone? Thanks in advance for your time.
Cassidy
I would never discourage some one from rooting their phone, however, you have chosen a hard place to start. You need to become familiar with odin, and /or safetrap. There are great instructions already posted, but unless you have a working knowledge of Odin, you are going to cause yourself a great deal of headache.
I suggest finding a friend who has done it, and have them walk you through it the first time.
By the way, I have been rooting Android phone since the original Motorola Droid. And I have this one rooted. But I not so easy for people new to the process.
Any way you go, I hope it works great for you!
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Thanks for the concern. I used to be pretty smart. Ive watched and read a ton about odin and I guess people just make it look super easy. I've noticed theres a different variation for every model of droid so I gjust need to find the right one and figure out what to do before and after the video stopped. Im just hoping I can find some help here. Thanks again
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Thanks for the concern. I used to be pretty smart. Ive watched and read a ton about odin and I guess people just make it look super easy. I've noticed theres a different variation for every model of droid so I gjust need to find the right one and figure out what to do before and after the video stopped. Im just hoping I can find some help here. Thanks again
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Best I seen about Odin with a video http://www.samsungodindownload.com/odin-tutorial/ and this is the Odin I use http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3109599&d=1420980613 Once you think you're ready http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/help/att-note-3-lollipop-t3100657 and post #4 has all the links you need. You are Lollipop so you WILL need to do all four files (first picture shows, if you try the All-In-One you will have problems). I'm on here everyday so if you need any help post here or send a message. I don't mind helping and NO, you do not have to donate to me.
Thanks a bunch Rooted! Thats gonna simplify thing a bunch, I really hope. Im sure id be bricked right now if my girl didnt catch me getting ready to do it and beat me up, she bought it for me on my bday. Needless to say she didnt approve. Ha. Ill wait till tomorrow i think. But I appreciate your help, you're a good man.

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