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ATT N1 Best MOD

Hey Guys,
Blast me as I know you will --- I just got my n1 for ATT last week after converting from a BB9700;
Questions -
(1) After rooting what is the best mod to do --- everyone has something to say buy I am debating from Cynagen vs ModaCo..
(2) Radio upgrades, Is there a new n latest one for my verison of N1

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Try "Search"......and wrong section to post this...

I was in the same situation as you! Just got rid of my 9700 and got a N1
I've been playing with Cyanogen 5.0.5.3 and more recently, 5.0.6.1-testing with the new .33.2 Undervolted/Overclocked/Extra RAM kernel. Everything is very snappy compared to stock and I couldn't be happier
I'm still looking around for radio roms

bsshoomez said:
... I just got my n1 for ATT last week after converting from a BB9700 ... After rooting what is the best mod to do ...
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I'm going to recommend that you NOT ROOT YOUR N1.
Stick with the un-rooted phone for as long as you can.
First determine WHY you want to root.
Do you know shell scripting? You know much/little about Unix/Linux? Are you a power user? Are you an iPhone iBasher?
I've rooted and unlocked all of my HTC phones for the past few years, because I know what I'm doing. I read and read and read, searched searched searched these forums for reasons why I should or shouldn't do this or that.
You are new to these forums. New to Android™.
I say you should play with your new phone for a few months.
Continue reading here about Cyanogen, Modaco, Enomther, apps2sd, rooting, radios, overclocking, etc.
If and when you learn ENOUGH by reading, searching, slimming, and searching and reading some more ... if you feel you want to root your Nexus One - by all means, DO It MAN!

OrganizedFellow said:
I'm going to recommend that you NOT ROOT YOUR N1.
Stick with the un-rooted phone for as long as you can.
First determine WHY you want to root.
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I will tell you why 95% of people want to root on the Nexus One. No need to ask a prospect.
The reason is because they want cyanogenmod!
You advice is poor rooting is child play compared to 360 modding.
N1 modding is key to enjoying ones phone.

I have to admit, I rooted my Nexus right away.
Having said that, I spent almost a year on my G1 without rooting it. At first I didn't know it was an option. After I started reading about it, I started to realize that it was probably a wise thing to do. It then took me a few weeks of reading to figure out what I actually wanted to do to my phone before I took the leap and finally rooted it and installed CM which made my G1 experience exciting again.
I mention all this because I agree with OrganizedFellow. Spend some time getting to know how Android works before rooting and adding new features. It will help you appreciate the hard work of the devs even more when you do put custom ROMs on your phone.
If you can't wait, I recommend CM. As for the radio, if your phone doesn't lose 3G and stays connected like it should, don't worry about changing the radio. I "had" to change my radio to try getting rid of my 3G issues that the phone shipped with.

mattrb said:
I will tell you why 95% of people want to root on the Nexus One. No need to ask a prospect.
The reason is because they want cyanogenmod!
You advice is poor rooting is child play compared to 360 modding.
N1 modding is key to enjoying ones phone.
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in contrast, if youre not super comfortable with going through the whole process just dip your toes in the water first by trolling forums and reading, you can after all brick your phone. I agree with organizedfellow, take your time and find out why and what benefits. i have not rooted yet but leaning closer as i read more and find that i really need the tethering in case im stuck with no wireless while out on a job (also the different color trackball would be sweet). Out side of those im pretty happy with everything stock, add to it with the rumors of himem coming in a future ota update i think i will be set....just that damn tethering...

You cant go wrong with any ROM available right now, but I highly suggest you try Enomther's ROM as well.

mattrb said:
I will tell you why 95% of people want to root on the Nexus One. No need to ask a prospect.
The reason is because they want cyanogenmod!
You advice is poor rooting is child play compared to 360 modding.
N1 modding is key to enjoying ones phone.
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are you serious? nobody said anything about the comparison of rooting an android device (software) to modding an xbox 360 (hardware).
So by your logic, someone should jump right into modding their console because replacing the engine in a Boeing 747 is harder.
To the OP. Take the advice of those suggesting that you wait. For starters, you can see if your device has any hardware issues. Yes HTC is warrantying unlocked devices but why not avoid that hurdle and sit on your device for a week or three to just be sure. While you do that, you can read all that you can stomach in these forums and plan your best course of attack.
Welcome to the fray.

OrganizedFellow said:
I'm going to recommend that you NOT ROOT YOUR N1.
Stick with the un-rooted phone for as long as you can.
First determine WHY you want to root.
Do you know shell scripting? You know much/little about Unix/Linux? Are you a power user? Are you an iPhone iBasher?
I've rooted and unlocked all of my HTC phones for the past few years, because I know what I'm doing. I read and read and read, searched searched searched these forums for reasons why I should or shouldn't do this or that.
You are new to these forums. New to Android™.
I say you should play with your new phone for a few months.
Continue reading here about Cyanogen, Modaco, Enomther, apps2sd, rooting, radios, overclocking, etc.
If and when you learn ENOUGH by reading, searching, slimming, and searching and reading some more ... if you feel you want to root your Nexus One - by all means, DO It MAN!
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+1 that is some great advice, and I would take it. I was just like you and I last week I rooted my ATT N1. I love it, but I must say that I have put a lot more time into it than I expected. I spent a month before I got the N1 looking into this whole scene and I felt that I had the reasons to root. I would at least spend the time searching forums until all your questions that you have are answered. No body is going to be able to give you a perfect ROM that is for you because there are many different ones out there and what is good for one person may not be the best for another.
I would spend the time to get to know everything before you get going. I would say I know my way around technology pretty well, but if I didn't have the nice folks from this forum I would of had a very hard time with things. When people tell you to "search" they really aren't trying to be rude. To root your phone is a personal choice that only you can make. You are the one that spent the money and people spend a bunch of time making our HTC using lives that much greater.
I spent almost 4 hours last week rooting and unlocking and I have spent easily 30-40 since then learning all that I can learn and I must say that for me it was the right decision because I learned a bunch of things about my phone and now when I have a problem I am comfortable that I can find a way to fix it myself. If I don't then I know where to turn to "search" for help.
If you have any questions I would love to help you out although I am far from a master at this trade. I spent a bunch of time and I have a whole notebook of printouts that I have found in various places all over the web (especially this site) I would be more than happy to send them to you, but just do yourself a huge favor and research, research, research, research, and then when you feel you are done research some more. It will help you in the long run.
Have fun with your phone and good luck

By the way I am running the latest Cyanogen and a few other things. I am having a blast with .apk like the HTC keyboard, and I must say that for me wireless tethering is the greatest thing in the world. I have only touched the very end of this world, and I am so thankful for all the people out there that spend countless hours making our lives a lot easier. I had a bunch of help last week and people really didn't need to spend the time to help me out. I have also messed around with the latest Modaco Sense ROM and I like that a lot as well.

New to Moto X - Root?

just got the Moto X (verizon) - it was 4.2.2 already installed. I have not had time to read through all of the threads, but should I root before accepting the update? and is there a bootloader unlock procedure for this device?
thanks!

you have to Root before you update to 4.4 if you do not you will have to downgrade back to the 4.2.2 camera update and follow the guide in the link below to achieve root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896

You should make time to read. You made time to post this thread so it's obvious you're not that short on time.
After all, it IS your phone.

nhizzat said:
You should make time to read. You made time to post this thread so it's obvious you're not that short on time.
After all, it IS your phone.
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i agree look threw everything and learn as much as u can so you dont have any issues.

nhizzat said:
You should make time to read. You made time to post this thread so it's obvious you're not that short on time.
After all, it IS your phone.
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Wow

jco23 said:
just got the Moto X (verizon) - it was 4.2.2 already installed. I have not had time to read through all of the threads, but should I root before accepting the update? and is there a bootloader unlock procedure for this device?
thanks!
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Unless you have the Developer Edition, Verizon Moto X's bootloaders cannot be unlocked now, and likely never will. If you have the DE, just go to Moto's site, and follow the instructions there.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2556400
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thanks for the feedback y'all. I went ahead and accepted the 2 OTA's - all is going well thus far. I've got some reading to do, and looking forward to contributing to this forum.

jco23 said:
thanks for the feedback y'all. I went ahead and accepted the 2 OTA's - all is going well thus far. I've got some reading to do, and looking forward to contributing to this forum.
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So your on 4.4? To root you need yo flash back to 4.2.2 camera update. Root with rockmymoto, use motowpnomo flash back to 4.2.2 camera update non rooted. Then root using slapmymoto. During the slap process you will be promoted to take 4.4 OTA.
slapped the sh*t out of my X

nhizzat said:
You should make time to read. You made time to post this thread so it's obvious you're not that short on time.
After all, it IS your phone.
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first off, if anyone around here can make d-bag comments, it should be me, not someone with less than 200 posts and only 35 thanks in nearly 3 years.... I was really looking for a quick response, as I just got the phone, and did not have time to conduct my normal research before making my decision (my prior device was stolen, so I had to make an impulse buy).
So anyhow, curious to see if anyone has tried to encrypt their phone (i'm considering this due to my recent experience), and if that will impact root. My ideal situation would be to have a rooted device that is encrypted. Since I got my device on Wednesday, I should have some time to experiment - I can always claim that after accepting the OTA, it bricked.

jco23 said:
first off, if anyone around here can make d-bag comments, it should be me, not someone with less than 200 posts and only 35 thanks in nearly 3 years.... I was really looking for a quick response, as I just got the phone, and did not have time to conduct my normal research before making my decision (my prior device was stolen, so I had to make an impulse buy).
So anyhow, curious to see if anyone has tried to encrypt their phone (i'm considering this due to my recent experience), and if that will impact root. My ideal situation would be to have a rooted device that is encrypted. Since I got my device on Wednesday, I should have some time to experiment - I can always claim that after accepting the OTA, it bricked.
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I have not encrypted but I am thinking of doing..I am on Verizon with moto x and fully rooted on 4.4
Slapped my Moto

jco23 said:
first off, if anyone around here can make d-bag comments, it should be me, not someone with less than 200 posts and only 35 thanks in nearly 3 years.... I was really looking for a quick response, as I just got the phone, and did not have time to conduct my normal research before making my decision (my prior device was stolen, so I had to make an impulse buy).
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Gotta love the sense of entitlement. Basically what you're telling me is that your time is more valuable than my time. Why should I care more about your device than you? You had enough time to post your question, yet you were too busy to click one of the development sub-forums to take a quick glance at the busiest threads?
What does an impulse buy have to do with figuring out how to root your new phone? I figure an OG like you should be able to find information on how to root a device.

I feel like a noob, but

Okay, so I've rooted a lot of other phones before and ran roms. But I'm confused as to where to start with the Moto x. I have the AT&T variant, on 4.4. I'm personally really interested in running eclipse. But, I'm not even sure where to start, I'm not rooted, just running the stock ota. Any help would be awesome!

So if you did some searching your questions would be answered. Prior ask this question everyday You need to use SlapMyMoto to root your phone
You need to download rsd lite and the at&t 4.2.2 camera update and flash your phone back to 4.2.2 then follow the guide
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dj923 said:
Okay, so I've rooted a lot of other phones before and ran roms. But I'm confused as to where to start with the Moto x. I have the AT&T variant, on 4.4. I'm personally really interested in running eclipse. But, I'm not even sure where to start, I'm not rooted, just running the stock ota. Any help would be awesome!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2556400

dray_jr said:
So if you did some searching your questions would be answered. Prior ask this question everyday You need to use SlapMyMoto to root your phone
You need to download rsd lite and the at&t 4.2.2 camera update and flash your phone back to 4.2.2 then follow the guide
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but how do i get safestrap? is it just included in the rooting process? or is it a separate thing I have to flash?

dj923 said:
but how do i get safestrap? is it just included in the rooting process? or is it a separate thing I have to flash?
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ok i am not trying to be mean what so ever but i cant stand helping someone who cant help them self's every question you have asked can be answered by looking and read the threads. i just feel like you have not even looked around for anything. so i am going to post some links and you need to read them before you ask any other questions
almost every question you have asked is answered in one thread so please read this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2558785
and here is your safestrap thread
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/104161-recovery-locked-safestrap-recovery-v365-2013-11-13/

dray_jr said:
ok i am not trying to be mean what so ever but i cant stand helping someone who cant help them self's every question you have asked can be answered by looking and read the threads. i just feel like you have not even looked around for anything. so i am going to post some links and you need to read them before you ask any other questions
almost every question you have asked is answered in one thread so please read this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2558785
and here is your safestrap thread
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/104161-recovery-locked-safestrap-recovery-v365-2013-11-13/
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I agree...however from experience.. It can be overwhelming.. First and for most OP u need to get back to 4.2.2 use RSD to flash back to 4.2.2 then follow slapmymoto to get root (after being done u can go back to 4.4 currently its what I'm on) as far as safestrap.. Its just a download.. I went directly to there site..hash of coe.. just remember BEFORE U FLASH ECLIPSE...MAKE AN NANDROID BACKUP!!! ( in case of an "oh s*it" moment) if u have questions msg me I'll help with what I can..mom running the "amazing" Verizon...
Slapped my Moto

xpsychox said:
I agree...however from experience.. It can be overwhelming..
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If he was completely new to Android and rooting, I'd understand how it can be overwhelming. However, the op has a lot of experience.
I always search first then ask questions if I don't understand. I don't understand why people make rooting this phone more difficult and complicated than it really is... ESPECIALLY the dev edition...

nhizzat said:
If he was completely new to Android and rooting, I'd understand how it can be overwhelming. However, the op has a lot of experience.
I always search first then ask questions if I don't understand. I don't understand why people make rooting this phone more difficult and complicated than it really is... ESPECIALLY the dev edition...
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I have a lot of XP too...still confused me.. I've owned and rooted the droid x the droid x2 the droid 2 the droid 3 bionic and RAZR.. Even converted the RAZR into the maxx... Don't judge a book by its cover.
I'm not saying he shouldn't have done his research.. Its ur phone..u should at least take 5 min to look...ull spend Kore time waiting on an answer...lol he also NVR mentioned if it was Dev edition..or non..
Slapped my Moto

xpsychox said:
I have a lot of XP too...still confused me.. I've owned and rooted the droid x the droid x2 the droid 2 the droid 3 bionic and RAZR.. Even converted the RAZR into the maxx... Don't judge a book by its cover.
I'm not saying he shouldn't have done his research.. Its ur phone..u should at least take 5 min to look...ull spend Kore time waiting on an answer...lol he also NVR mentioned if it was Dev edition..or non..
Slapped my Moto
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Totally agree with that. Guys make posts or start threads asking something that even a quick Google search will give them an answer to in 30 seconds.....But they ask instead and wait hours sometimes for an answer. I occasionally comment to them on this....But usually I just ignore the question. Again, one reason why they wait hours for an answer.
I firmly believe if someone is going to mess around with their expensive phone, they should read read read....and search for answers and eventually learn how all this stuff works. Not just blindly follow what people tell them to do. Not all advice is good advice either. Lol
If you don't learn about this stuff on your own guys....your risk of bricking your device will be much higher.
Lecture over.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....

kj2112 said:
Totally agree with that. Guys make posts or start threads asking something that even a quick Google search will give them an answer to in 30 seconds.....But they ask instead and wait hours sometimes for an answer. I occasionally comment to them on this....But usually I just ignore the question. Again, one reason why they wait hours for an answer.
I firmly believe if someone is going to mess around with their expensive phone, they should read read read....and search for answers and eventually learn how all this stuff works. Not just blindly follow what people tell them to do. Not all advice is good advice either. Lol
If you don't learn about this stuff on your own guys....your risk of bricking your device will be much higher.
Lecture over.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
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Agreed.. Couldn't have said it better myself.. If ur gunna take the time to post and wait for an answer.. Look it up 9 time out of 10 ull find it faster than u post! Lol..
Slapped my Moto

It is rather overwhelming when it comes to rooting the Moto X. I can entirely see where the OP is coming from. I have read what I can find on the subject. IT IS OVERWHELMING and YES, CAN VERY WELL BE CONFUSING. I have also rooted many devices. It would be very nice to have an easier root process but we have to work with what we have right now.

DanRo80 said:
It is rather overwhelming when it comes to rooting the Moto X. I can entirely see where the OP is coming from. I have read what I can find on the subject. IT IS OVERWHELMING and YES, CAN VERY WELL BE CONFUSING. I have also rooted many devices. It would be very nice to have an easier root process but we have to work with what we have right now.
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i mean. i was "overwhelmed" i guess when i first got into messing around with my phone. But it was only overwhelming because i knew what i wanted to do and wanted to do it as fast as possible without understanding anything. If you just read for 5 hours instead of 30 minutes then it isn't overwhelming at all. It just takes longer than most people expect to understand everything they are doing. So they don't take the time. End up running commands and doing things they think some post told to do somewhere without any idea of what they are doing and boinking their phone up. If instead when they came across something they weren't sure what it was and then took time to read/research what it actually was, they wouldn't feel overwhelmed anymore.
Overwhelming comes from taking tiny tid bits of info and trying to make them make sense together. If you read a ton, its not overwhelming to make large tid bits of information you have accumulated make sense together. IMHO.
I didn't do it the way i just described but i also spent days on end trying to unbrick my phones. I then had to spend countless hours actually understanding what i just did so that i can manually fix them. Rsdlite and toolkits are cool and all, but they allow people with little experience to get into trouble where they need lots of experience to get out of that trouble. Also considering everyone that knows what is going on just says read read read and it isnt overwhelming anymore, they are probably spot on (wwhether they followed that process or not).

jayboyyyy said:
i mean. i was "overwhelmed" i guess when i first got into messing around with my phone. But it was only overwhelming because i knew what i wanted to do and wanted to do it as fast as possible without understanding anything. If you just read for 5 hours instead of 30 minutes then it isn't overwhelming at all. It just takes longer than most people expect to understand everything they are doing. So they don't take the time. End up running commands and doing things they think some post told to do somewhere without any idea of what they are doing and boinking their phone up. If instead when they came across something they weren't sure what it was and then took time to read/research what it actually was, they wouldn't feel overwhelmed anymore.
Overwhelming comes from taking tiny tid bits of info and trying to make them make sense together. If you read a ton, its not overwhelming to make large tid bits of information you have accumulated make sense together. IMHO.
I didn't do it the way i just described but i also spent days on end trying to unbrick my phones. I then had to spend countless hours actually understanding what i just did so that i can manually fix them. Rsdlite and toolkits are cool and all, but they allow people with little experience to get into trouble where they need lots of experience to get out of that trouble. Also considering everyone that knows what is going on just says read read read and it isnt overwhelming anymore, they are probably spot on (wwhether they followed that process or not).
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Well said sir!
Slapped my Moto

Any guess let's get back on topic I may have made my comment but I also pointed him in the right direction to answer his question. But flaming the kid repeated is not needed. OP did you get everything taken care of
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dray_jr said:
Any guess let's get back on topic I may have made my comment but I also pointed him in the right direction to answer his question. But flaming the kid repeated is not needed. OP did you get everything taken care of
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I agree...happen to me on one of my posts... And I agree.. OP.. Fixed? Or still same issues?
Slapped my Moto

[Q] Can my phone get root?

I've been trying to figure out on the forums which device has which path to get root and wow it doesn't make sense to me. I'm no noobie but I don't get all the updates and processes.
I just want root so i can use Xposed. i don't care about loading different roms or kernels.
I bought it from swappa. It has android version 4.4, system 140.44.5.ghost_att.en.US, Build 13.11.1Q2.X-69-3
this thing sucks HARD without root. there is so much you could do that you can't. It astounds me how diligently manufacturers and carriers are about preventing you from using the phone to its fullest. So i void a warranty, i don't care...

a10fjet said:
I've been trying to figure out on the forums which device has which path to get root and wow it doesn't make sense to me. I'm no noobie but I don't get all the updates and processes.
I just want root so i can use Xposed. i don't care about loading different roms or kernels.
I bought it from swappa. It has android version 4.4, system 140.44.5.ghost_att.en.US, Build 13.11.1Q2.X-69-3
this thing sucks HARD without root. there is so much you could do that you can't. It astounds me how diligently manufacturers and carriers are about preventing you from using the phone to its fullest. So i void a warranty, i don't care...
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I have an AT&T Moto X running Kit Kat 4.4 (from OTA) and I'm also not clear on whether I can root my phone. I'm also unclear about whether I can unlock my phone
I would also appreciate guidance and direction.
Many thanks!

The AT&T branded Moto X cannot be unlocked, but the GSM unlocked DE will work on AT&T and is unlockable. The TMobile Moto Maker Moto X will work on AT&T and has an unlockable bootloader, too, but if you unlock the bootloader on it, your warranty is void. So I would stick with the GSM unlocked DE. There may be some issues with 4G LTE on AT&T using the TMobile devices but I am not sure. That is probably covered in the forum somewhere if there are any issues.
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Okay, so I can root, but not unlock. I think I'll wait till an easier and simpler root method is developed like there was for my Samsung GS2.
I appreciate the guidance.

CartlandSmith said:
We are lucky to even have this method. Google is making Android more and more secure by incorporating SELinux. If a root method for 4.4.2 is ever found, it will likely be even more complicated.
4.4 Security Enhancements
Also, the dev who came up with the current root method, jcase, is not interested in finding a root method for Motorola phones running 4.4.2.
So rooting now is likely your only chance at rooting. If you take the 4.4.2 OTA unrooted, it is doubtful you will ever be able to gain root because the 4.4.2 bootloader is not downgreadable.
Since the developer edition phones are so readily available from Motorola at such a good price and since only AT&T and Verizon retail/customized phones are not unlockable, there isn't much interest in trying to find a way to root locked Motorola phones running 4.4.2. Sprint, US Cellular and TMobile retail/customized Moto X's are unlockable as are the developer edition Moto X's.
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Thanks for the thoughtful and informed reply, Cartland. My last phone was a Samsung GS2 and it was easy to root (all automated). Though I have rooted and flashed ROMs on a number of phones, this process seems complicated and readily screw-upable (not a real word, I admit). I like being rooted, so I can flash tweaked-out ROMs that are better than stock.
I'll explore rooting more and see how comfortable I am with it.
Much appreciated.

CartlandSmith said:
We are lucky to even have this method. Google is making Android more and more secure by incorporating SELinux. If a root method for 4.4.2 is ever found, it will likely be even more complicated.
4.4 Security Enhancements
Also, the dev who came up with the current root method, jcase, is not interested in finding a root method for Motorola phones running 4.4.2.
So rooting now is likely your only chance at rooting. If you take the 4.4.2 OTA unrooted, it is doubtful you will ever be able to gain root because the 4.4.2 bootloader is not downgreadable.
Since the developer edition phones are so readily available from Motorola at such a good price and since only AT&T and Verizon retail/customized phones are not unlockable, there isn't much interest in trying to find a way to root locked Motorola phones running 4.4.2. Sprint, US Cellular and TMobile retail/customized Moto X's are unlockable as are the developer edition Moto X's.
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CartlandSmith said:
It takes some time to do it. I did it on a relative's phone. There are unfortunately some pointers that are left out of the original posts that help everything to go smoothly if you know them. You can find them in the threads, but the threads have gotten so long it makes the process take longer when you have to read through them to find all of the pointers.
If you are only flashing using RSD Lite - RSD Lite will stop you from bricking your phone.
You are never going to get a simpler method with a locked bootloader Motorola phone - it is only going to get harder and I predict the devs won't invest much energy in it going forward because it is just not worth it when there are developer editions available to us. I think those that are doing it get a kick out of it, but when it becomes too time consuming, well, they have their day jobs they have to make sure they focus enough time on to pay their bills. They get donations for this sort of thing, but I am sure the donations don't compensate them very well for all of the time they take trying to find exploits the more secure Android becomes.
With a locked bootloader, you can't flash ROMs because you don't have a custom recovery. But what you can do it use Xposed Framework and its modules like Gravity Box if you are rooted.
I spent some time this weekend rooting a relative's Verizon Moto X with a locked bootloader due to the 4.4.2 OTA coming. You have some breathing room on AT&T right now to root, but don't wait too long or you will lose the opportunity once the OTA comes.
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I don't think I have the time or energy to go through the process of finding those pointers and then going through the root method. I'm wondering if anyone will compile those pointers (as you suggest, I have noticed with previous rooting and flashing methods, some key steps aren't described which can cause major problems).
A clarification. You say that if I just want to flash ROMs, I can use RSD Lite. But then you say that with a locked bootloader, you can't flash ROMs.
I do appreciate your taking the time.

POINTER - sell or trade your phone for a Dev edition

It is difficult to root if you can't unlock your bootloader. There is a thread in this forum telling you how to root your device with both locked and unlocked bootloader.

Rooting this device isn't difficult. If you can read and type verbatim, letter for letter, you can get root. People need to stop psyching themselves and others out.

CartlandSmith said:
Yes you can get root, but it takes a bit of work
First you have to downgrade to 4.2.2 by flashing the sbf firmware for your device.
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can you specify what sbf is? searching didn't help. Try not to use so many acronyms for us dummies.
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Then use RockMyMoto to get root on 4.2.2. Then use MotoWPNoMo to disable write protection.
Then reflash 4.2.2 and use SlapMyMoto.
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do i use ODIN? what do i use to flash?
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You will be rooted on 4.4 and write protection will be disabled when you are done with all of that.
Once you have root, be sure and freeze MotorolaOTA to stop the 4.4.2 OTA. If you take the 4.4.2 OTA, you may keep root, but write protection will be enabled.
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Does motorolaOTA automatically download the latest updates and install them without warning you?
thanks for giving me hope!
EDIT: does anyone know if http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/script-root-moto-x-root-script-locked-t2603051 will work?

I'm getting close to knowing what to do!
But the individual steps are not very well written.
For example on the RockMyMoto page, he just starts giving you commands. He doesn't tell you what to type them into. In the video, everything is already open. I tried the command in cydia impactor and it didn't do anything. I though maybe you do it in adb, I don't really know what that is but I found adb.exe and launched it but the command window it opens goes through a bunch of commands and then closes. I can't even get past step one because he never said how he got to the point where he starts!
CartlandSmith said, in the third post, that i am supposed to reflash 4.2.2 at the end.. Did he mean 4.4? Or 4.2.2 then slapmymoto then take 4.4 over the air?
It would be really helpful (to me at least) if someone could put step by step instructions. Like humiliatingly degradingly redundant instructions for a complete idiot. I will put them up if I ever figure it all out. It's so frustrating when the instructions are so detailed from where they start, but they never show you how they got to where they are.
Thanks to everyone for the help.
EDIT: probably stupid question but does the phone ever need to be connected by USB? none of the posts mention it but all other devices i've used needed it. adb (here is a tutorial)/ isn't recognizing my device with USB connection or not. Both connected to same router, all drivers and everything updated, Debugging enabled...

No offense intended...at all....but if you value your phone, you really need to study up and read LOTS of stuff here. Until you understand what you are about to do, don't do anything.
Just trying to save you from a bricked phone. You seem very unsure of everything at this point. No one can post anything here that isn't already covered in the guides. Look at the stickies, complete Moto x guide is there.
Good luck.
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Hmm i rebooted my computer and factory reset my X and now everything is connecting. Guess you should always try the IT Crowd's advice before doing anything else lol
I agree that everything is covered on this site, it's just not organized.

It seems unorganized when you don't understand. Read enough of it and it all makes sense eventually. This has everything about bootloaders, rooting...etc. BUT, you need to know what applies to your situation. And again...that comes when you understand the stuff.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
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CartlandSmith said:
It's even more clear how unorganized the info here is the more educated you become.
The thing that becomes the most clear eventually is how much misinformation is posted.
Sorry but the "it only appears disorganized and unreadable and full of misinformation" because you don't understand it won't fly with those of us who do understand it.
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The OP of the thread I linked is well organized. Its about the only one that is. Its also stickied, so should be incredibly easy to find.
As far as misinformation goes, that's due to people being quick to post advice when they clearly don't have a handle on this stuff themselves.
How to avoid the clutter and misinformation? Maybe point people to good threads that already exist instead of filling new ones with more misinformation. No? Or God forbid, suggest they search for the information that already exists? Instead of helping to grow yet another repeated thread with both good and poor information within it.
Xda's number one rule was created for a reason. To keep clutter and thread after thread of similar content to a minimum. A lot of inaccurate information gets repeated over and over as well. But, so many refuse to search cause its too much work, and just as many others condone this behavior by answering.
I know most don't agree with what I'm saying, as the forums prove with the repeated information here in truck loads. And I also know when any of us remind people of rule number one here on xda....we're called trolls, flamers and much worse....even when the reminder was posted respectfully.
So who exactly are the flamers? LOL
Its looking like reminding members to search and read and actually help them help themselves is becoming a dangerous practice. I'm tired of the misinformation and cluttered forums....and if reminding is just going to start drama at every turn, I suppose reporting the offenders is the easier option. Tho not my first choice.
But if you read this carefully, you'll see I'm completely agreeing with you. LOL. So lets agree to agree and leave it at that.
And as a member who's been around a while, I won't stop doing my part to try to cut down the misinformation and lack of respect for the xda rules. Not abiding by rule number one is EXACTLY why the mess of confusing information exists. You see that, right?
If the newer members want to make me the bad guy for this, fine. I'll be the bad guy.
And I help more people here than most as well.....but that's forgotten if you disagree with anyone or remind anyone of the rules here. Fine. Again.....call me the bad guy. Better get used to it too, I'm not going anywhere.
I'd apologize for the off topic, but this thread should have been closed anyway.
Have a good one!
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CartlandSmith said:
The most confusing thing of all is why someone with a Nexus 5 self-appoints themselves to be the "hall monitor" of the Moto X forums. *shrugs*
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Um, perhaps I own both.
How bout you drop it and stop commenting on multiple posts of mine since you appear to dislike the things I say. K?
Try the ignore member feature.
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Please search before posting
Check the sticky guides before asking questions about rooting
Thanks
FNSM

kennyglass123 said:
Please search before posting
Check the sticky guides before asking questions about rooting
Thanks
FNSM
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Ninja'd .....:good:

[Q] Getting a Nexus 6 soon, what should I d to enjoy the experience to the fullest?

So, I used to play around a lot with my old htc desire 3-4 years ago, during its golden days of software development here on xda. I know my way around flashing, rooting, radios, kernels, etc. pretty well I'd say.
This time with my new nexus I'll probably keep things simple, I like stock lollipop and getting updates faster. But in any case, what are (in your opinion) the modifications that needs to be done to this phone to enjoy a perfect experience? Talking about things like would you unlock bootloader right away? Root? New kernel? What makes it better for you?

In my opinion the "must have" is to unlock bootloader then root and finally buy the Light Flow app to enable notifications led, because when I'm for example play game in fullscreen I can't see latest notifications. It's very useful.

When mine arrives in a couple of days I'll be unlocking, flashing SlimLP and elementalx as soon as its out of the box. Really, you just have to find what you like. Stay stock for a while to get used to it. If you want quicker updates, go to aosp

Unlock Bootloader
Flash TWRP
Create Stock Back Up (EFS and what not)
Flash Root through Recovery
You are golden.
Now you can go flash happy with all of the wonderful things on the site.
Personally > I am running CM12 / Faux Kernel

There are so many of these threads, you can go to any one of the existing threads and already see whats out there. This is nothing different than one of those "best ROM / kernel" threads. Everybody is just going to recommend whatever they're using because thats what they're comfortable with. What another person uses doesn't necessarily mean that its what you should be using.
For sure you should, bootloader unlock (you'll have to enable "OEM unlock" in developer options) before anything and if you want to, you can decrypt your phone (you can find that out by finding the thread).
If you want to enjoy the fullest experience, browse through the forums and find out what appeals to you. Think of it as shopping through a store to find something you're interested in, the only difference is that you don't have to pay.

Toneman07 said:
Unlock Bootloader
Flash TWRP
Create Stock Back Up (EFS and what not)
Flash Root through Recovery
You are golden.
Now you can go flash happy with all of the wonderful things on the site.
Personally > I am running CM12 / Faux Kernel
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This seems quite reasonable. Any particular reasons why you should run a stock rom with root privileges? Also, do you get OTA with root (I( cannot remember this one)?
zephiK said:
There are so many of these threads, you can go to any one of the existing threads and already see whats out there. This is nothing different than one of those "best ROM / kernel" threads. Everybody is just going to recommend whatever they're using because thats what they're comfortable with. What another person uses doesn't necessarily mean that its what you should be using.
For sure you should, bootloader unlock (you'll have to enable "OEM unlock" in developer options) before anything and if you want to, you can decrypt your phone (you can find that out by finding the thread).
If you want to enjoy the fullest experience, browse through the forums and find out what appeals to you. Think of it as shopping through a store to find something you're interested in, the only difference is that you don't have to pay.
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XDA being XDA I guess, telling you that the thread can be answered by searching, lol. In my mind, this is a different kind of question, I want to know what are the simplest modification you can do to get the best experience, let's say to get the best with minimum effort, if you want. Anyway, I do appreciate your input, I did thing that unlock and maybe even custom recovery are a must (at least, you need those if you want to start doing anything else, IIRC).

qweasdfzxc said:
XDA being XDA I guess, telling you that the thread can be answered by searching, lol. In my mind, this is a different kind of question, I want to know what are the simplest modification you can do to get the best experience, let's say to get the best with minimum effort, if you want. Anyway, I do appreciate your input, I did thing that unlock and maybe even custom recovery are a must (at least, you need those if you want to start doing anything else, IIRC).
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That's because searching is a rule here. I browse the forums and help people out all the time and posts like this show up on a everyday basis.
The question is not different at all, they all share similar elements to what others have asked and if you read through other people's threads you would have what you were asking for answers in their threads.
In development or using mods, there is no "best." if you want to do anything relating to flash able mods kernels roms then you'll need twrp. It's a necessity. For everything else more than that, you'll have to browse through the forums and find what interests you.
Interests you? Try it. Not happy with it? Try something else. Feeling adventurous? Try something else. The best possible experience is using something new every couple of days until you find that sweet spot where you can settle down with a ROM and kernel set up.
If you're looking for something to narrow down your choices. Look for a kernel or rom based on the following attributes.
How active is the thread? Does the developer release updates often? How many views and posts?
Popularity usually leads to a good experience and it's popular for a reason. Check it out and see why it is so popular. I'm not saying popular is the best but it's a good start.
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Same Here!
I'm also going to get one soon. Most probably I'll unlock that effin bootloader without even unboxing the phone completely lol
I would like to try Official CM12 for Nexus 6 first

whats funny about threads like this, and the op as well, is that the op says he knows whats up about flashing and all the good stuff, but goes ahead and asks what he needs to do. lol! the right thing to do would be not to ask what needs to be done, but to play around with the device and do what YOU want to do to your device. not what others think you should do to your device.

Anyway, thanks for all the people that, instead, came here to have a nice discussion! Some comments were rather helpful!

qweasdfzxc said:
3-4 years ago people were way less *****y here, what happened? Y'all need to lay back.
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3-4 years ago, xda was also not as popular to this day. People were more independent and didn't rely so much on having information fed to them.
When I first started out on xda, I pretty much lurked on the forums since I was new to flashing anything on my phone. The first phone I had was a g1 and rooting that phone took over 40 minutes using terminal emulator and telnet.
There wasn't a one click root toolkit for that phone. I spent weeks and months learning the ways and when I finally felt comfortable I started helping others. I rarely ever asked any questions unless it was super necessary.
You haven't even purchased the phone, you have all the time in the world to browse through the forums to see what roms and kernels interest you. The resources to your answer is already there, you're just not finding the answer but yet want others to answer for you.
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Enough with the snide remarks. The OP is asking for some help. If you don't like the question, move on and don't respond. There is no need to post on every thread you see....
To the OP: There is a ton of information in the N6 fora. Do some searching of specific things and browse around. You'll find all the info you need.