I'm surprised not a lot of people are complaining about this.
I switched to Kit Kat (CM11) on my Nexus 4. Everything was working out perfectly. Some features that were in 10.2 were not there, but no biggie; I figured it takes time to port everything.
Then, I opened my browser (Dolphin HD), and noticed that word wrap was not working. Odd.
So I tried Firefox. No word wrap. Getting pissed at this point. So I try AOSP (built in browser). Still no go. Word wrap ONLY works in Opera (of course), with the word wrap option enabled.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=62378
Googling it, it looks like Google actually regressed instead of progressed. How the heck do you take something as fundamental as word wrapping and remove support for it from the OS in the name of "progress"? If you read the bug thread on Google, they claim it's "WAI", which is Working As Intended.
Please.
This user put it best.
Are you google people purposely pretending not to understand the problem? Is this some diversionary tactic to avoid acknowledging that you've broken something?
One more time just in case you really don't understand. We are talking about TEXT WRAPPING. In the old browser when you zoom a page to a legible size, the text reflows so that you don't have to scroll from side to side. Saying that it "works as intended" is saying "yes, we removed a vital feature for no reason, too bad".
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This is actually a deal breaker for me, so I simply restored a nandroid of CM10.2, and everything works great.
What do you guys think about this? Again, I'm slightly taken aback that not more people are complaining about this. It's sort of a fundamental thing in mobile OS acceptance.
Hey man, I'm sorry you miss that feature. Text reflow on zoom like how it used to work really broke a lot of webpages. The chrome browser is pretty smart with its auto-zoom by double tap, but it won't reflow the text fields.
I'm sorry that it messed up your use case so badly, but I'm glad that we have root on our phones and can load the software that works best for us. FWIW, I think the Opera Android browser is pretty serviceable compared to Dolphin HD, which is also not a bad browser.
What the hell is word wrap?
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What the hell is word wrap?
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Its when the words render to fit the page instead of zooming in and out like you do now.
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bladebuddy said:
Its when the words render to fit the page instead of zooming in and out like you do now.
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You mean like text reflow? Dolphin with Jetpack does that although not every single webpage supports it.
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Yes that's what the OP was saying. A lot more browsers use to do this including stock before the KK update.
Doesn't bother me so much as a small screen isn't good for web browsing at the best of times, it does however seem a step backwards from Google though.
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Text reflow does come with some chaos though, flicking a bit upon each zoom and resetting, dolphin always seemed to be the most stable doing it. It's also the all-around most feature rich AND fluid browser out there, especially on ART.
I agree that word wrap/text reflow implmentation on Android isn't perfect, but it's almost essential to browsing on devices like ours.
Dolphin has Jetpack integrated by default for KitKat. I can confirm that even though this is the case, and that Jetpack is explicitly enabled in Dolphin browser settings, it does not work at all. Zooming in then double tapping simply zooms out to the extent of the largest content (text or images) displayed on the screen. Doing the same thing (zooming in, then double tapping) on previous Android OSes (Jelly Bean, etc.) forces a word wrap.
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New Linux based smartphone.
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What do you think about it? Is this is a really revolution?
I think this phone looks very nice with a stunning UI. The technical specs are nothing special, but this could be quite a hit i think.
thats a savage ass phone, you kno what would be sick tho if you could change the color of all the LED's on it two from blue to like purple or something. It's linux it should be fully customizable like that
I love the look of this phone. Very appealing. I will be interested in seeing more about it.
This would be the perfect MP3 Player. But for a smartphone, I do not know if it will offer the extreme flexibility of any of the four TRUE smart phones: Symbian S60, Windows Mobile, Android.
Does this phone have a file system, etc? Also, does Palm Pre and Palm Pixi have a file system and file manager too?
But I've seen this phone before, and I was excited, and still am.
I just don't expect it to be smart-centric. I expect it to be more like a Zune HD experience with some "quasi-smart" features like on the iPhone.
Original Poster, I think you should compile links on the first post and make this the official ELSE anticipation and discussion thread.
More Links http://else.bz/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amk7XzgMcTs&feature=related
But there are a few things I would like to know more about this phone.
*Judging by the Flash Videos, the keyboard on the phone sucks (but there are some pretty cool features). But the reason why it sucks is mainly due to the layout and size of the keys both in portrait and qwerty.
*I haven't seen any file manager. Will it be on this phone, and how complex is it?
*Speaker quality?
Two words: left handed
(looks awesome!)
N1c0_ds said:
Two words: left handed
(looks awesome!)
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XD one word: settings.
poetryrocksalot said:
XD one word: settings.
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He was talking about the buttons being on the right side of the phone. Easier for us left-handers to use. I don't think you can change hardware location in settings
Use it upside down maybe!! too bad for you!! Does look interesting, but not entirely better than tab bars and such.. it does have that added sliding left feature and I guess it being capacative would not require much tension from the thumb. I am always up for new technology to push the limits.
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Use it upside down maybe!! too bad for you!! Does look interesting, but not entirely better than tab bars and such.. it does have that added sliding left feature and I guess it being capacative would not require much tension from the thumb. I am always up for new technology to push the limits.
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Wow, maybe the device will not only have rotate orientation buy also flip orientation. That would be awesome!
It's all going to come down to how they market this phone. It looks great and definitely has appeal to those of us with a technical background and who love customization. But what carrier will they market it to? Can it be customized to settings that people find interesting such as led colors, programs, etc? and the biggest one: WHO will they allow to carry the operating system. Getting google to back this would be great, getting Nokia to make a phone able to support this would be great, but which one will have the advertising budget to challenge Apple and the like to the duel that will occur when this and the next generation of iphones is released? A small company like Access is going to have a really hard time trying to compete with Motorola, Nokia, Google, Samsung and Apple especially.
I'm sorry for reviving a dead thread, but does anybody know the name of this phone and the maker? I think the phone failed to launch and the maker went out of business and that's making it hard for me to find any information on this. A name should help, thanks.
The Linux based smartphone have actually been out for awhile. I think (Don't hold me to word on this) there is one called tuxphone. But I'm not sure if that's Linux based when I think back on it...
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I wonder if it would be possible to port the launcher to Android since it is also Linux based? It looks pretty sexy...
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drewtang said:
I wonder if it would be possible to port the launcher to Android since it is also Linux based? It looks pretty sexy...
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The most thing about Android that is Linux based is it's kernel but a lot of it is actually Java, especially the apps.
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XDA TV v1.3
Now you can have all the XDA TV videos wherever you go using this web application.
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After that tweet from azrienoch this sunday I've started to work on a webapp version of the XDA TV application. It uses WebKit, so in theory Android, iOS, Windows Phone 7, modern desktop browsers, Symbian will handle it correct, if it doesn't please report me the problems/bugs with screenshots(if needed) and a good description.
I've tried to get the app in the App Store, but Apple rejected it
The technologies used on this application:
iScroll
jQuery
HTML5
My knowledge
Running in my iPod:
Running in my iPad:
Get me to the app!
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PS: If you're having problems with that page(which is a redirector that checks for the screen size to send you to the appropriated version, tablet or phone, you might use this other links for the tablet and the phone versions
Please fell free to donate and help me with the high server costs, which hosts the XDA TV videos for the XDA TV App streaming. Seriously, the server costs are getting pretty high:
Changelog:
v1.3:
* WebApp released!
Amazing!
Will write about it
Thanks very much for the support
It's darn slow to load the page. Can't run videos.
Expecting updates
It would be nice to have an app for each of the mobile platforms...
This will be great! Right now it doesn't work so good with ie9 wp7 mango. I can't scroll on first page. When I press on one link I only see back button and upper left corner of the movie frame (it's zoomed in I think and I can't scroll). If I press video it starts playing so that is working.
Thanks for sharing, hopefully you can fix it Best of luck!
I'm working on that, the WP7 browser (IE9) has a lot of incompatibilities with WebKit(as usual from Microsoft...)
Its not Microsofts fault.
Its yours.
The webapp only works in WebKit browsers.
It doesn't work very well in any other browser.
Not in Firefox, not in Opera, not in IE.
I have seen some errors in your CSS.
I haven't seen the JS yet.
awsome will download this right away
irendwer said:
Its not Microsofts fault.
Its yours.
The webapp only works in WebKit browsers.
It doesn't work very well in any other browser.
Not in Firefox, not in Opera, not in IE.
I have seen some errors in your CSS.
I haven't seen the JS yet.
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Ok, WebKit browsers are dominating the mobile market, Android and iOS use them, and latest version of Firefox works with my code, Chrome does too, IE historically has a lot of problems and incompatibilities.
For me what I think is that you never tried to develop web apps for multiple browsers and felt into the nightmare of IE!
I imagine it is much the same as windows mobile...they set some standards and then change their mind and break it all.
Samsung Galaxy S (stock v2.3.3)and XDA TV Dark Edition
Installed it today and seems cannot close it anywhere. Back button doesn't do anything and neither Menu.
What? You can't close a webapp?
EDIT: Ahh, you're talking about the XDA TV app, but at the wrong thread. I'm trying to work around that problem, but it seems to insist. At the time you need to kill the app using a task manager if it's wasting your battery that much.
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Ok, WebKit browsers are dominating the mobile market, Android and iOS use them, and latest version of Firefox works with my code, Chrome does too, IE historically has a lot of problems and incompatibilities.
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Okay... so you are using a lot of Webkit specific things...
and you really are wondering why IE has problems?
This is too funny....
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For me what I think is that you never tried to develop web apps for multiple browsers and felt into the nightmare of IE!
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I am a webdeveolper. I've made a lot of websites and applications.
So id do know how hard i can be to make things work in every browser. Thats whzy i do know that the problem is in your code! I had a look in the html-file and in the css and i have found a few errors.
Maybe something like this could help you: validator.w3.org
It works everywhere except for IE. Those aren't errors, but incompatibility issues with the Microsoft fragmentation in IE.
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It works everywhere except for IE. Those aren't errors, but incompatibility issues with the Microsoft fragmentation in IE.
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No. It does not. It isn't working in Opera Mobile on Android.
It doesn't work very well on a desktop firefox and on other desktop browsers.
It work ONLY in webkit browsers.
You can casll it what ever you want. IE (and other browsers) aren't doing anything wrong.
You are using stuff that works only in webkit. So it's not a incompatibility in IE or something.
It's a incompatibility in your webapp.
Use standard HTML, CSS and JS and it should work on IE!
This is having the same problems as the android application. It's not showing any of the more recent videos of the last couple of months.
Sorry, I've been working hard and also trying to completely redesign the XDA TV app so I can't update the feed, but I'll try to do it today.
Sorry
great S/W....iwill try
Just updated the app feed. My hands hurt after copying, pasting and wget'ing all those videos
Excellent.
Perhaps with a few mods we can generate a script directly from the Xda Podcast util.
I think I updated it a while back to generate a python script (to drive the youtube fetching script) from a Youtube user feed. The GUI isn't too obvious as I was quickly seeing if it would work or not, so might see if I can improve it.
Unfortunately I had problems getting python to run on my budget tablet I intended to use with it, so not done any more on it.
Does any other browser do text reflow like Opera does? Not having it and having to scroll horizontally kinda defeats the purpose in a mobile phone...
The text reflow action is extremely useful. I had it on the Nexus AOSP browser I sideloaded onto my old Bionic and loved it. That browser doesn't work on the X and the AOSP browser in Play store is pretty good, but doesn't have the reflow capability.
Chrome? Double-tap on the text and it reflows...
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Chrome? Double-tap on the text and it reflows...
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Well, on my Moto X double tapping in Chrome just zooms in or zooms out. It does not wrap the larger text to the screen. You still have to scroll horizontally to see the whole line.
Chrome will reflow to a specified zoom level that you set in its settings and is probably the next best thing. Opera reflows text as you zoom in and out, but not as reliably as it should.
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Dolphin reflows text.
Does it? I tried both regular and the jet pack and all it does is zoom without wrapping text.
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Chrome will reflow to a specified zoom level that you set in its settings and is probably the next best thing. Opera reflows text as you zoom in and out, but not as reliably as it should.
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I just checked and my zoom setting in Chrome is 125%. I went to a Yahoo site about the Chinese trade balance which has text across the whole screen. I double-tapped to zoom and the text got bigger, but did not reflow. I still had to scroll horizontally. If you go to a full text screen do you really get reflow on the text? It is certainly not working for me.
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Does it? I tried both regular and the jet pack and all it does is zoom without wrapping text.
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I just tried with the Dolphin browser I installed from Play yesterday. Reflow works on two sites I tried it on.
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Does it? I tried both regular and the jet pack and all it does is zoom without wrapping text.
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Try settings/web content/Auto-fit pages set to on.
I'm using Regular Dolphin, Jet Pack is included now.
Groid said:
I just checked and my zoom setting in Chrome is 125%. I went to a Yahoo site about the Chinese trade balance which has text across the whole screen. I double-tapped to zoom and the text got bigger, but did not reflow. I still had to scroll horizontally. If you go to a full text screen do you really get reflow on the text? It is certainly not working for me...
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I also find it does not work all the time.
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Try settings/web content/Auto-fit pages set to on.
I'm using Regular Dolphin, Jet Pack is included now.
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It's on.. go to, say,
http://www.legacygt.com/ and see if it works for you.
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Try settings/web content/Auto-fit pages set to on.
I'm using Regular Dolphin, Jet Pack is included now.
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Double tap to zoom reflow's the text on LegacyGT, are you trying to pinch zoom further and have it reflow?
BTW What are you driving, I have a 05 Outback XT so I visit LegacyGT often.
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No luck for me. Tap or pinch just zooms, doesn't reflow.
I had a 06 Forester XT, Sandy took it. Now have 11 Legacy H6.
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Just played with the settings, I didn't have Jetpack on so double tap works. Once I turn Jetpack on it doesn't work anymore.
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http://www.legacygt.com/ and see if it works for you.
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Have you tried this site with Opera Mobile? It wraps text on that site for me as I zoom in and out.
Naked browser for the win. Best 3rd party browser.
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Naked browser for the win. Best 3rd party browser.
sent from my sm-9005.
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I'm a fan of Naked Browser too but it no longer does text reflow since the KitKat update. I can work around it much of the time using the text zoom option but it's not the same. I still need reflow sometimes depending on the web site. Opera does a fair job but does not allow zooming on all sites. Not sure I'm willing to use Dolphin.
Huh? I'm on note3 so I guess I dont have that problem. That would drive me up the wall.
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The Verge just published a review on the Droid Turbo and it says the phone has some kind jelly like scrolling. What do you guys think about it? Is it for real?
I can't post links here, so just search for "Motorola Droid Turbo review" on The Verge's website. They included a gif where you can see what I'm talking about.
I never noticed that on my Turbo.
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I notice it, but it's a subtle effect. If you scroll lightly on a long list of things in the web browser, you might be able to see it.
Yea I have no doubt seen that in the store. Really bothered me.
Mine doesn't do anything like that. Wonder if it's because I switched to ART or if it's only on some devices.
Mine doesn't do that, I even tried it on their site like was in their video and smooth as silk.
Yes, mine does the same thing, though it's not nearly as bad as their example. I'm hoping I'll just get used to it.
Yeah, I returned my Turbo because of the issue. If it gets sorted out with updates I may take the plunge again, but until that time I'm out. There is another thread in the general section talking about the same issue. It's referred to as screen warping in that one.
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That's the gif from theverge's review. I haven't been able to recreate this on my device, I'd recommend asking for an exchanged unit if you see it on your Turbo.
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That's the gif from theverge's review. I haven't been able to recreate this on my device, I'd recommend asking for an exchanged unit if you see it on your Turbo.
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Yep, that's how mine and all of the display models were. It was more obvious when scrolling though the xda app. Just try holding your finger on the screen, pull it down, and then go back up with it without picking up your finger. Maybe it only effected the first models but I haven't saw one that doesn't have the issue yet. :/ I would have kept it if it weren't for that issue.
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Yep, that's how mine and all of the display models were. It was more obvious when scrolling though the xda app. Just try holding your finger on the screen, pull it down, and then go back up with it without picking up your finger. Maybe it only effected the first models but I haven't saw one that doesn't have the issue yet. :/ I would have kept it if it weren't for that issue.
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I have a feeling it's a display driver issue, as some other 2560x1440 devices have had varying degrees of severity with this issue. Mine appears flawless in all apps and websites on Chrome, so you might have more luck in the future with a more recent shipment of units.
I have two turbos with a Sept 24th build date, 64gb nylon, both do not have the jelly scroll issue. Tried numerous apps, but I could replicate what I see in that GIF.
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I have a feeling it's a display driver issue, as some other 2560x1440 devices have had varying degrees of severity with this issue. Mine appears flawless in all apps and websites on Chrome, so you might have more luck in the future with a more recent shipment of units.
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I hope you're right. I'm buying off contract so I would have to verify that the issue was fixed in person for me to take the plunge again. Like I said though, all of models that I have seen has it. It's been quite a few too.
I had this issue with my DROID that I bought about a week ago. Returned it since, it still had alot of kinks to work out.
My Turbo 32GB has an Oct 7 build date and I can't replicate that flaw on mine either.
I've noticed this at certain times on my Turbo. Honestly it's subtle to the point that I thought I was imagining it. At least for me personally it doesn't bother me at all. When I first saw it I actually wondered if it was intentional and thought it was kinda cool lol.
Can not replicate the gif. Tried and tried. Used chrome. Is that the browser everyone is using? I assume so since that's what the phone is shipped with. But you never know. I can see how that would be irritating
Just so we're all clear, what that gif is supposed to illustrate is the fact that when you scroll up and down things seem to expand and contract as you do so. Not the delay that appears to be in the gif, that is just part of the effect of the slow mo, all phones have that.
Every droid turbo I have seen has this effect. At this point I've seen it on about 15 phones. I've never seen a droid turbo that does not have it. It is most apparent on sites where there is a lot of color in blocks because it's easier for the eye to see the blocks expanding and contracting than with text
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Anyone know of a good website or app to test for this scrolling effect?
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I see it on my turbo, disabling animations in developer options doesn't do anything. I am not sure its even an animation effect, it may just be some lag in the scaler. Its not specific to a particular app, its throughout android. Hopefully they address it in the next update.
Afternoon all now firstly this is not an add Ian in no way affiliated.
I tried out a program call L Speed found on the play store and after applying some settings my phone feels new again very snappy, antutus 3d section has never worked for me but after using this program it now works, don't know why but it does. Give it a try and see what you think.
Cheers
John
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One of the kernel modifiers that works by altering setting in RAM. You can get improvements for sure but be careful.
I used to run a kernel modding app in KitKat ROM but now on Lollipop the phone runs nice without it so I don't use a kernel tuning app anymore.
I have Xposed but even then, only a minimal number of modules. You can create an unstable device by these types of mods.
Can you tell us which settings exactly you have in L Speed? A screenshot would be enough because when I tried it I didn't see any improvement
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I'm probably as big of a skeptic as you get when it comes to these miracle "speed up your phone now!" kind of apps, but hear me out:
I installed this after it popped up whilst lazily scrolling through the Play Store. I remembered reading a post title about it somewhere and figured I might as well laugh at the massive scam when it starts asking for IAPs or something.
But wow, it really helps. I mean it has only been running for about 30 minutes, so I can't say much for the battery life improvements etc, but here's what has noticeably improved thus far:
- "Smoothness": Enabling the UI tweaks rewarded me with buttery smooth scrolling, window switching, even SwiftKey (which, whilst being a great keyboard for a multi-lingual, has always fallen behind others in terms of smoothness) is now on IOS levels of responsive, for now. I'm running 5.1.1 (B324), which is already a massive improvement over the choppy mess that was 4.4.4, but this made animation smoothness on-par with the latest flagships.
- App loading times: Vastly improved. The HAM7 isn't bad at this, but not exactly great either. I'm assuming it's the IO tweaks that 'fixes' this, as app loading times are way quicker. Even the app switching window, which is notoriously slow to load up on the HAM7, opens up very hastily (not instantly, but MUCH faster than usual), even when you have 3-5 pages of apps open. Hell, even the camera doesn't waste time opening.
And perhaps the most impressive improvement: Faster streaming. I know, this sounds like snake-oil, right? Wrong. I live in East Africa, our internet here is horrifically slow compared to European countries (my company has a 7mb/s line, which is one of the fastest lines available in our area). Streaming a video in 1080p is something one can only dream of. I took a quick look at YouTube, ramping the quality up to 1080p, and it plays! I mean I still have to leave it for around ten seconds to buffer a little, but after that I'm golden. I'm baffled, I honestly don't want to believe it, but yet it's happening right before my eyes. I will test this on other streaming services (Netflix and ShowBox) later and update this post with my findings.
So there you go. A totally skeptical non-believer converted in 30 minutes. I can't tell you how this works, all I can say is that it does, at least in my case. The HAM7 running 5.1.1 really isn't bad in terms of every day performance, but this makes it a lot more bearable (I hate EMUI).
I'll update this post with further findings tomorrow.
My divice is unrooted and Benchmark result i better!?
ronnie72 said:
My divice is unrooted and Benchmark result i better!?
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Impossible. This application uses modifications that are impossible to make or you're unrooted.
I think what he is saying he hasn't used L Speed and gets a better score?
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snake65 said:
I think what he is saying he hasn't used L Speed and gets a better score?
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Yes, not used L Speed and the phone never been rooted.
Well I don't know about your phone but this has given new life
To mine,very snappy.
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Lots of factors affect it. Rooting and modding can slow it down, for instance I can assure you installing ViPER4Android will slow it down, but sounds oh so good.
Don't use viper. But yes depending on the amount of apps etc does affect it. Using always on display now and love it and not really much of a battery hog, I love coming back to my phone and don't even touch it just glance to see if I have missed anything.
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That looks great, where do you get it from?
http://www.androidsage.com/2016/04/...and-samsung-galaxy-s7-on-your-android-device/
That's the link is not on play store.
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