[Q] Nook hd+: to android or not to android? - Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've previously ran cm10 on my nook hd+ via an SD card (thought it was safer), after a few days I turn off the nook, turn it on the next morning and voila! It bricked itself, the screen boots to black nook screen then reboots. Didn't matter if there was an SD card in or not. Sucks for me, but before we go blaming me let me just state I did the same thing to a Nook tablet for years without issue and someone know what I'm doing.
Here's my delima, first my new nook hd+ is slow, its annoying. I have all the apps I want thanks to nooks update with google play, but its still slow as hell. Is putting android on it going to make it much faster, or is it just the limited hardware the nook hd+ has? Is it better to root the nook or run from SD (better being safer). Finally is it any safer to just by a N2A card. While I'm no programmer, I worked IT and know how to follow directions, and there is plenty of guides on XDA. I heard that the Nook hd + was pron to bricking when loading android, is it different now?

Ok maybe I can help u out.
Download these two:
Win32DiskImager (tool for writing boot image to SD card)
http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager
NookHDplus-bootable-CWM-6028-for-stock-4GB-rev4-(05.15.13).zip (boot image for SD card)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613
Step to Step -> unzip the "NookHDplus-bootable-CWM-6028-for-stock-4GB-rev4.zip" -> write the image to your sd card with win32DisImager (try to take a 4 gig SDCard (worked best for me) and after that copy your wished rom and gapps onto the SD.
Now ur device should start in Recovery and u should be able to flash a new rom!
Let me know if that helped u.:good:
edit: I recommend u to flash the latest CM 10.2 nightly on your emmc

riboswitch said:
Ok maybe I can help u out.
Download these two:
Win32DiskImager (tool for writing boot image to SD card)
http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager
NookHDplus-bootable-CWM-6028-for-stock-4GB-rev4-(05.15.13).zip (boot image for SD card)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613
Step to Step -> unzip the "NookHDplus-bootable-CWM-6028-for-stock-4GB-rev4.zip" -> write the image to your sd card with win32DisImager (try to take a 4 gig SDCard (worked best for me) and after that copy your wished rom and gapps onto the SD.
Now ur device should start in Recovery and u should be able to flash a new rom!
Let me know if that helped u.:good:
edit: I recommend u to flash the latest CM 10.2 nightly on your emmc
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Thank you, I really could have used you six months ago (and will save this post in case a future issue arises), luckily I was able to return my nook under warranty. However, ever since I've been to nervous to try android again and have been running stock. But lets face it stock is slow. My question is, is android noticeably faster on the nook and has it gotten safer (ie less likely to brick) for the nook hd+.

jb0756 said:
However, ever since I've been to nervous to try android again and have been running stock. But lets face it stock is slow. My question is, is android noticeably faster on the nook and has it gotten safer (ie less likely to brick) for the nook hd+.
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Stock is kinda laggy, I tried it some days ago with the lates plain release.
I feel like I have the best experience with the latest CM 10.2 nightly build.
There was a possibility to brick your device with the MAG2GA chip and firmware 05 combination.
Since I have the firmware 06 combination I flashed ontop of my CM 10.2 this little kernel -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2562499
It made my screen more touch sensitive and trim enabled (not sure if 10.2 is trimed by default!) -> Better speed.
If i helped u hit the little thanks button :highfive:

first of all, stock nook is also some kind of android( and is a sucky android!!!!). CM 10.2 is now the most stable android version for NOOK hd +.
second, nook is not born to brick, Not matter it is on stock or CM. ONLY if your nook hd plus is using a faulty chip, AND you run CM 10.2, AND you turn of trim using a trim-enable kernel, then you may have the CHANCE to brick your nook.
You want to know about faulty chip (MAG2GA chip and firmware 05) ? Go to develop section and find a threat talking about TRIM and chip.
Last, go intall CM 10.2 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389813 and follow instructions from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500
just use CM 10.2 and 4.3 gapps you are good to go!

laofan said:
first of all, stock nook is also some kind of android( and is a sucky android!!!!). CM 10.2 is now the most stable android version for NOOK hd +.
second, nook is not born to brick, Not matter it is on stock or CM. ONLY if your nook hd plus is using a faulty chip, AND you run CM 10.2, AND you turn of trim using a trim-enable kernel, then you may have the CHANCE to brick your nook.
You want to know about faulty chip (MAG2GA chip and firmware 05) ? Go to develop section and find a threat talking about TRIM and chip.
Last, go intall CM 10.2 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389813 and follow instructions from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500
just use CM 10.2 and 4.3 gapps you are good to go!
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Thanks, I am going to make sure I chip is not faulty and I think i'm going to load cm10.2 on it. Is there a major benefit to replacing stock vs just running cm10.2 from an SD? Also do i download the nightly build or ovation?

Running CM on emmc is generally smoother than running it from an SD card. Of course, you lose the ability to dual boot, but the smoothness and stability makes it worth it IMO
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM11

run from an GOOD SD card could prevent brick due to faulty chip and you may go back to stock anytime you want. But the performance would be highly depend on your SD card quality. Lots of people use a class 4 or higher class sandisk SD card.
be aware that is you run cm rather than stock, the nook app could not be download from play store. But you could download the app online ( any other resources) and install it by yourself.
If stock is not important to you, you could go ahead and install CM 10.2( no need for cm10.1, cm 10.2 is very stable now) on internal SD card, which is also call "EMMC"
And because the official cm 10.2 is not trim-enable( trim may cause brick), so you are always good to install cm.
To sum up
1. there is not harmful at all to install cm10.2 if you follow instructions.
2. you could chose to install in EMMC (which would lose stock rom), or install in SD card ( you could still keep stock rom and use it at anytime)
I personally back up stock rom to my pc and install cm10.2 to EMMC. It is the most responsive rom for my nook

Just wanted to say I've been running CM 10.2 from a 16gb Sandisk class 4 sdcard for months and been very happy with it.
Sent from HD+ MAG2GA CM 10.2 from SD

Just as a follow up in case anyone was wondering, I checked my nook's chip set and found it ran firmware 06, which If i read right was a good thing. That being said I went and installed cm10.2 on my emmc, and obviously runs a lot better. I used an android app "watchdog" to monitor the cpu usage. Nook os, running idol, used 60% of the cpu, CM10.2 used .5%.
Only issue I have notice so far is that the nook does not charge when powered off. I turned it off and left it plugged in all night and the charge light never even came on, and batter was at 40%. Turned the nook on and put it to sleep, the charge light came on and it was at 100% within a few hours. Not sure if there is a fix to this?
Also I heard that stock os was able to go into Deep Sleep to save battery life, and cm10.2 doesn't go into Deep Sleep, meaning the battery drains faster. Has there been a fix to this at all?
Finally, it is better to leave Cryogen auto updates off? or on? Just worried and update would go through and mess everything up, kinda like Windows likes to do
Thanks again for everyone's help! Thumbs up for everyone so far!!!!!!

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[Q] Going to root wife's nook, what do you suggest?

So we just bought a nook color and she is still new to it. Obviously, she reads lots of books and I... well, want to make this into a tab and play w/ it. She might want to do web browsing and install some games/apps, but primarily will be used as an e-reader.
What rom (if any) do you suggest I flash? Or will I be better off just rooting the device and leaving it as is (w/ market)? She has no patience for developmental stuff so looking for something stable but also something I can play with
stevedawg85 said:
So we just bought a nook color and she is still new to it. Obviously, she reads lots of books and I... well, want to make this into a tab and play w/ it. She might want to do web browsing and install some games/apps, but primarily will be used as an e-reader.
What rom (if any) do you suggest I flash? Or will I be better off just rooting the device and leaving it as is (w/ market)? She has no patience for developmental stuff so looking for something stable but also something I can play with
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Root the Stock and leave it. its the most stable rom.
Make your own SD card, running Nookie Froyo or CyanogenMod. When you take the card out and reboot, her machine is completely back to normal, or so I'm told. You both get to have what you want.
I can run CM from SD card w/o rooting the device!? if so... sweet, I saw sum tuts but still educating myself. Rooting and leaving stock is also a good idea, however I heard B&N is able to update your device thus losing root... Is this true?
For her, it sounds like just rooting would be the best option, since it has the market, all of the B&N features, and is stable. As mentioned above, running a ROM from the sd card is a good option for you. After rooting it, you could format the sd card used to root, and then load a ROM such as CM7, Froyo, or Honeycomb from the SD card to play with.
This way, she has her mostly stock setup, and you have your tablet setup that you can load by just popping in the sd card and rebooting. When you're done playing with it, power down, pop the sd card out, reboot, and it's back to her setup.
If you do decide to run a ROM from the sd card, make sure to get at least a class 4 (sandisk class 4 4GB works well for me). Then, if you find something that would work for both of you, you could look at flashing to internal EMMC for better speed/performance. Another option is dual-booting between ROMs, which you can find more about in the development section.
stevedawg85 said:
I can run CM from SD card w/o rooting the device!? if so... sweet, I saw sum tuts but still educating myself. Rooting and leaving stock is also a good idea, however I heard B&N is able to update your device thus losing root... Is this true?
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There is a thread in the dev section on how to block the updates. Here's a link to the sd card version of CM7 you asked about. You don't have to root first, but you can.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989637
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As suggested I'd root the stock software for the wife, and when you want to play choose a ROM that can run from the sdcard and you will be good to go.
Currently I run 4 different setups. Stock rooted on internal mem. Then I setup 3 different sdcards to mess around with Honeycomb, CM7, and Froyo from time to time.
C Dippa said:
There is a thread in the dev section on how to block the updates. Here's a link to the sd card version of CM7 you asked about. You don't have to root first, but you can.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989637
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You do not have to root it first. All you have to do is create a live SDcard with Clockwork ROM manager put the SDCard in and boot it up holding the n and the power button in > wipe > flash CM7.
With this device reading off the SD first you do not have "antonoot" first.
I've ran CM7, Honeycomb and a few others. My personal choice is stock rooted device is perfect.
stevedawg85 said:
I can run CM from SD card w/o rooting the device!?
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I know! I couldn't believe it was that easy either. I'm going to add a notice to my signature. This kind of great capability should be right in people's faces..
Nookiefroyo runs great off an SD card for me.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Thanks for everyone's input...
She gonna be using it 75% of the time, so I decided to root and leave it as is. Everything works good. I tried to do nookie froyo off SD card but had too much trouble w/ adb, i'll save it for another week. But for now, stock root works good. Got Zeam and Home switcher to help both of us out
I wanted to point out the only downside of rooted stock is that she cannot use in the in-store B&N features! If she plans on using that (i've heard they have not only the hour of reading free, but also sometimes offer deals and events) then you might wanna not be rooted and use the SD card. I know this is a little late to tell you as you already did it, but I thought I'd let you know anyway.
stevedawg85 said:
Thanks for everyone's input...
She gonna be using it 75% of the time, so I decided to root and leave it as is. Everything works good. I tried to do nookie froyo off SD card but had too much trouble w/ adb, i'll save it for another week. But for now, stock root works good. Got Zeam and Home switcher to help both of us out
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I'll throw this in for whenever you feel like creating a bootable SD CARD to play with. I've found that higher class sd cards make a much bigger difference in how fast/well the rom operates than you might think.

Questions about rooting

I have been lurking and reading for a couple of weeks now. I bought a used NC with 1.1 and used Autonooter to root it. Works great.
I bought a second NC which had the 1.2 s/w on it. I used the manualnooter process to root it. That works pretty well.
Now I'm thinking about getting into the nightly CM7 game. I'm wondering is there anything I need to watch out for with the 2 NC's I have if I do this. Do I have to take them back to stock? Can I just follow the CM7 instructions?
Any insight and guidance would be appreciated
50 views and no replies. If you read this and can help I would really appreciate some info. I'm reluctant to proceed until I hear from someone who has traveled the road before. Thanks
You can run CM7, stable or nightly, off of an SD card. You don't have to change anything on your Nooks to do this. In fact, they don't even need to be rooted. Running CM7 on the SD card will not change anything on the built-in memory of the Nook.
Look for the "size agnostic" thread, follow the directions, and you're good to go.
ps. I enjoy your music.
yeah, just follow the instructions on flashing cm7 for the first time. and make sure you understand the CWM instructions. you may want to try a stable rom for now. there are lots of battery and kernel issues right now with the nightly builds. but not to fear the devs are working hard to fix them. just stay with the stable's and your be fine. I hope this was helpful...
boxcar8028 said:
yeah, just follow the instructions on flashing cm7 for the first time. and make sure you understand the CWM instructions. you may want to try a stable rom for now. there are lots of battery and kernel issues right now with the nightly builds. but not to fear the devs are working hard to fix them. just stay with the stable's and your be fine. I hope this was helpful...
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is this the one you mean?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11452450&postcount=19
Well, I went ahead figuring "How hard could it be anyway?".
I did the nand backup with CWM 3.0.2.8
I then ran ROM manager V4.2.0.2 from internal memory.
I choose the option that allows me to download ROMS.
I chose CyanogenMod, and then chose 7.0.3.
I downloaded the ROM
I then chose Install ROM from SD card
It asked me about clearing caches, etc and I chose the default values already checked.
It installed without errors.
I rebooted and it got to the last part of the boot process where the word "color" is rapidly changing and stayed there indefinitely,
I rebooted with CWM on the SD card and tried to reinstall the Manualnooter I loaded on this NC a week ago.
Rebooted. Still hung up.
I copied my nand backup to the CWN SD card and chose restore.
It booted back to my manualnooter install successfully.
So I'm successfully back where I started.
Can someone help me understand what I did wrong on what I need to do to make it work? Thanks
Not sure what went wrong, but I would also suggest trying verygreen's size-agnostic approach. You keep your manual nooter and can run CM7 from an SD card to see if you want to go all the way and remove the stock BN software.
Try this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
Or, if you want to go crazy, you could try racks' dual boot SD card image of Phiremod 6.2 (a variation of CM7) and Honeycomb. That's what I'm using and Phiremod works great (aside from battery life ) and honeycomb is just plain slick to use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045018
I loaded CM7 7.0.2 stable and was able to get it going. Thanks

[Q] Rooted NC wifi stopped working

I have been running MN 4-6-16a on NC software version 1.3 for over a year now. It's not totally stable (I get some freeze-ups occasionally & have to reboot) but it's workable. The other day, my wifi stopped working. Wifi goes off, and when I turn it on, it can't find my router, I get a black box that says 'unable to scan for networks', and it stops responding and the Nook asks me if I want to force close wifi. If I select 'wait' instead of force close, wifi shuts off.
Router works fine, other devices are connected. I have searched other threads, and it seems that some suggest installing CM7, though these suggestions are from a year ago.
Is there something more current I sould be running that would fix this problem. Suggestions would be greatly appreciated for this newbie.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941247
Nitrolady said:
I have been running MN 4-6-16a on NC software version 1.3 for over a year now. It's not totally stable (I get some freeze-ups occasionally & have to reboot) but it's workable. The other day, my wifi stopped working. Wifi goes off, and when I turn it on, it can't find my router, I get a black box that says 'unable to scan for networks', and it stops responding and the Nook asks me if I want to force close wifi. If I select 'wait' instead of force close, wifi shuts off.
Router works fine, other devices are connected. I have searched other threads, and it seems that some suggest installing CM7, though these suggestions are from a year ago.
Is there something more current I sould be running that would fix this problem. Suggestions would be greatly appreciated for this newbie.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941247
The latest ROM for Nook Color is CM10 Jellybean 4.1.2 with a 3.08+ kernel. You can install it on a SD card and try it.If you like how it works you can install it internally. There are great tips threads you can utilize to help get you to the latest ROM. I use CM10 internally on my Nook Color. My other Nook Color has CM7.1 (gingerbread with 2.6.32 kernel). CM10 is running pretty smooth and just as fast as CM7.2.
hwong96 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941247
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941247
The latest ROM for Nook Color is CM10 Jellybean 4.1.2 with a 3.08+ kernel. You can install it on a SD card and try it.If you like how it works you can install it internally. There are great tips threads you can utilize to help get you to the latest ROM. I use CM10 internally on my Nook Color. My other Nook Color has CM7.1 (gingerbread with 2.6.32 kernel). CM10 is running pretty smooth and just as fast as CM7.2.
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Wow, that thread has 155 pages ... hard to get through all that .... I did read the first page, though
OK, so I should download CM10 latest nightly version & install ... I don't seem to have a way to back up my data or current ROM since I don't have an internet connection that works. Yes, I could install to SD, but I've read that there can weird problems with this? So I was going to jump right in to an internal install, but it looks like I will lose data for my apps. Is there any advantage to downloading CM7 instead of 10? I ask only because I found a good site with good (newbie) instructions on doing CM7, and the site I found for CM10 has some stuff that I don't completely understand.
Really, I don't have great aspirations for using my NC ... I just need wifi to work so I can access my apps, and that's the only reason I am looking at flashing a new ROM. Is this the only way to go to fix wifi?
Nitrolady said:
Wow, that thread has 155 pages ... hard to get through all that .... I did read the first page, though
OK, so I should download CM10 latest nightly version & install ... I don't seem to have a way to back up my data or current ROM since I don't have an internet connection that works. Yes, I could install to SD, but I've read that there can weird problems with this? So I was going to jump right in to an internal install, but it looks like I will lose data for my apps. Is there any advantage to downloading CM7 instead of 10? I ask only because I found a good site with good (newbie) instructions on doing CM7, and the site I found for CM10 has some stuff that I don't completely understand.
Really, I don't have great aspirations for using my NC ... I just need wifi to work so I can access my apps, and that's the only reason I am looking at flashing a new ROM. Is this the only way to go to fix wifi?
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For SD card cm10 installation (use Sandisk class 4 or 6)
Here is LeapinLar's thread to get you started http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941858
Get the latest CM10 nightly here http://get.cm/?device=encore
Make sure to use Gapps 20121011.
Here are the steps involved to make a bootable sd card:
Unzip the ...Rev5.zip
Use program Win32diskimager.exe to write the above unzipped image to SD card
Copy latest Cm10 nightly to sdcard (do not unzip)
Copy gapps 20121011 to SD card (do not unzip)
Safely eject SD card from computer
Backup your Nook apps/data to separate SD card or computer. If you have Clockwork Mod Recovery installed do a nandroid backup on sd
Turn off Nook Color
Insert SD card you created above
Turn on Nook color
Watch the Cm10 splash screen come to life.
Have you tried rebooting your Nook color to see if it can attach to your router?
CM7 is dated on gingerbread and 2.6.32 kernel. CM10 is Jellybean on 3.08+ kernel.
If you prefer rooted stock firmware 1.4.3 check out this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494901
Many thanks, hwong96! I followed the directions and got CM10 working on an sd and wifi works fine. I am going to take a look at upgrading the stock software and then rooting to see if I can get that working as well, as I prefer the B&N interface/look-and-feel. But in the meantime, at least I have a functioning tablet again. Thank you!
Nitrolady said:
Many thanks, hwong96! I followed the directions and got CM10 working on an sd and wifi works fine. I am going to take a look at upgrading the stock software and then rooting to see if I can get that working as well, as I prefer the B&N interface/look-and-feel. But in the meantime, at least I have a functioning tablet again. Thank you!
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Your welcome. Another satisfied customer.
Check out item A15 in LeapinLar's thread for stock ROM install via CWM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25354258#post25354258

[Q] shall i let it boot to stock? not used before

Hi,
Just bought a sealed hd+ 32gb and been reading all the threads for a few weeks. I dont want to use the stock nook system but want to run from a 32gb sd card. shall i still run through the stock nook setup where it updates , logsin to b&n account etc??? i though it may help to not allow this as it will update the software to version 2.0.6 automatically , which i understand makes some mods more difficult. I dont want to allow the auto updating of stock b&n software in the future ?
Also can you recommend the easiest instructions to follow to install the most stable CM10 version on an 32gb sandisc 4 sd card?
Any thoughts would be really appreciated Thanks
You probably should go ahead and boot to stock and let it update and register. If you do not want to register, look at my HD/HD+ Tips thread linked in my signature for skipping the OOBE. Then any time it tries to boot to stock, it can complete. Updating to 2.0.6 will have no effect on running things from SD.
As far as installing CM10 on SD, you have two choices, install the Original SD or my Hybrid SD. I have easy install guides for both also linked in my signature.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
thanks for the quick reply.
Is it possible for b&N to stop the ability to boot from sd card with a software update?
oakman9 said:
thanks for the quick reply.
Is it possible for b&N to stop the ability to boot from sd card with a software update?
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No, unless they change the hardware it will always boot.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD

[Q] A little confused with which ROM to install for Nook HD+ With MAG2GA v6 emmc

Hi,
I bought my Father in law a NOOk HD+ in 2013. I have kept the stock B&N ROM on it and used NOVA launcher with it.
It has worked pretty well but very recently it has slowed down to where it is unusable.
I thought I would flash a CM ROM to it to try and speed things up and upon looking on XDA and elsewhere and I was made aware of a potential emmc issue with the device.
I managed to run a Emmc checker on the tablet and it identified it as a MAG2GA v6.
Is it the potentially faulty EMMC at fault for this tablet now running slow? If so, would an upgrade to a CM ROM be a wise move?
I also read here that there was an issue with TRIM and the EMMC in the NOOK HD+, but from what ive read it seems this was solved so CM 10.2 and CM11 could run on the device...is this correct?
I am happy to give CM10.2 or CM11 a try, and it seems these are the guides to follow:
CM 10.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389813&nocache=1
CM11
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42406126&postcount=7
I am a little confused with them though. Because I have a MAG2GA v6 EMMC, do i need to run CM from the SD card, or is it ok to run it from the Tablet's internal memory?
Sorry if this has been answered, but there seems to be a mass amount of info and im struggling to find the answer to what I want.
Many thanks
FWIW, my HD+ has one of the faulty EMMC chip models and has been running CM11 (M12 snapshot) internally just fine.

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