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Battery drain, especially at idle

I love pretty much everything about this phone and can't imagine it being much better. One of the reasons I bought it was for the famed battery life. Most blogs and battery tests put it at just over the Z3 and one of the longest lasting phones out there.
However, that hasn't been my experience. I'm an Android veteran and I know how to look for battery drains and what generally causes them. I'm losing a lot of battery at idle and there doesn't seem to be any reason. Nothing shows up in the battery stats. I even tried stamina mode and the results were worse. I lost 20% over 11 hours without even touching the phone. It just sat there and lost 1/5th of the battery. Not quite 2%/hr, I know, but still significant for a phone in stamina mode and not being used.
The only thing that shows up in the battery stats are the usual suspects: Android OS and Android System. I don't have a weak LTE signal or anything.
So, I'm wondering if anyone else is experiencing fairly significant battery drain, especially idle drain. My battery life isn't horrible, but it should be a whole lot better from what I was reading before I purchased the phone.

Apologies for asking obvious questions, but are things like wifi, mobile date, auto-sync, bluetooth and NFC toggled on or off? Are certain apps repeatedly appearing in the Consuming Apps list? I tend to make sure I swipe these away which has helped when I've had similar excessive battery drain, for me these are (for example) Reddit Sync and Google Docs. It is weird that they don't appear to be high in the battery usage % list though...

wingsfortheirsmiles said:
Apologies for asking obvious questions, but are things like wifi, mobile date, auto-sync, bluetooth and NFC toggled on or off? Are certain apps repeatedly appearing in the Consuming Apps list? I tend to make sure I swipe these away which has helped when I've had similar excessive battery drain, for me these are (for example) Reddit Sync and Google Docs. It is weird that they don't appear to be high in the battery usage % list though...
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Wifi, mobile data, auto sync, and Bluetooth are on all the time, as they are on all of my smartphones. These are not the cause of the drain I'm experiencing. If you leave all of those off all the time, there's no point in having a smartphone. NFC is off.
As stated, there is nothing in the app drain listing to cause alarm. Nothing in the battery stats is telling me I have an issue, which is why I'm frustrated.

Fair point, though I personally toggle them on and off as needed.
How any apps do you have installed over and above those bundled? I'd try uninstalling as much as possible then reinstalling then one by one. Or a less extreme option could be to clear cache in as many apps as you can, reboot and see if the drain stops.

I have everything enabled except Google Now and I lose about 0.2% per hour when idle. Also, I believe all the folks who are reporting battery life of 2 days with 6 hours SoT must be having very low idle drain.
So greyhulk I think your experience is not the norm, but unfortunately don't know how to help. Post up some screenshots of your battery stats.
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When you look a the battery History details, do you see a lot of awake time? Also look at the top 3 or 4 items in Battery usage individually, do they show high amounts of Keep awake time while the phone is idle? A wakelock or poor cell signal are the two main causes of high idle battery drain.

cschmitt said:
When you look a the battery History details, do you see a lot of awake time? Also look at the top 3 or 4 items in Battery usage individually, do they show high amounts of Keep awake time while the phone is idle? A wakelock or poor cell signal are the two main causes of high idle battery drain.
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It's definitely not poor signal. There is a bit of wake time, but the top 3 items are screen, android OS, and Android system. The wake time on those is not significant, either.

phositadc said:
I have everything enabled except Google Now and I lose about 0.2% per hour when idle. Also, I believe all the folks who are reporting battery life of 2 days with 6 hours SoT must be having very low idle drain.
So greyhulk I think your experience is not the norm, but unfortunately don't know how to help. Post up some screenshots of your battery stats.
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I'm about the same. I'm getting on average 7 hours on screen daily with everything on, no stamina mode, over 70% brightness. I left my phone unplugged for the first time overnight and it drained a whopping 1%! I've had the phone for over 2 weeks now.
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Sorry to hear about your battery issues, but as mentioned, that's not the norm. Not sure how much help I can be, but I can tell you your Android System and OS percentages are about 2-3 times higher than mine so that seems related to the drain, but tracking down the culprit will be tricky. Have you considered factory resetting?
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Here's are a couple screenshots for comparison:

when Android OS and/or Android System drain more than cell standby and phone idle you can rest assured that an app or service is draining your battery.
Many things can be disguised as Android System (/OS). It could be google now, location services, syncing of google drive, browser sync or an app running it's own service etc.

Android system and Android OS always drain 2-5% of a battery on all of my devices. However I turn on wi-fi and other stuff only when needed. Plus I have all the google services, google voice and account sync disabled.
But I wasn't happy with the battery life on my Z3c also. Cell standby, phone idle and 1-2 ours of screen time drained the battery almost in 24 ours. Maybe it was one-time occasion (I haven't had much time to test it since the phone is new), but I starting to have a bad feeling

Randy05 said:
Android system and Android OS always drain 2-5% of a battery on all of my devices. However I turn on wi-fi and other stuff only when needed. Plus I have all the google services, google voice and account sync disabled.
But I wasn't happy with the battery life on my Z3c also. Cell standby, phone idle and 1-2 ours of screen time drained the battery almost in 24 ours. Maybe it was one-time occasion (I haven't had much time to test it since the phone is new), but I starting to have a bad feeling
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That seems highly abnormal, I leave wifi, mobile data, and GPS on at all times, with numerous accounts syncing, yet battery life has been superb for me and many others.
It's been a few hours since I posted that screenshot from my previous comment, but my battery has dropped a mere 2% to 35% and my on screen is now at 5h20m. That's the drainage I've been typically experiencing with daily heavy usage.

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Yep, Android OS and system are about twice what they should be, so that's probably at least part of the cause....
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boojay said:
I'm about the same. I'm getting on average 7 hours on screen daily with everything on, no stamina mode, over 70% brightness. I left my phone unplugged for the first time overnight and it drained a whopping 1%! I've had the phone for over 2 weeks now.
Sorry to hear about your battery issues, but as mentioned, that's not the norm. Not sure how much help I can be, but I can tell you your Android System and OS percentages are about 2-3 times higher than mine so that seems related to the drain, but tracking down the culprit will be tricky. Have you considered factory resetting?
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I'm not going to factory reset a phone a few days after I took it out of the box and set it up. That's ludicrous. It's set up exactly the same as several of my previous Android devices, none of which had this kind of drain.

greyhulk said:
I'm not going to factory reset a phone a few days after I took it out of the box and set it up. That's ludicrous. It's set up exactly the same as several of my previous Android devices, none of which had this kind of drain.
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I am seeing the same performance as you. Honestly, at the end of the day I still think the battery life is pretty solid, but not up to the legendary levels others are seeing.
Some guy said he left his phone sitting there overnight and saw a 1% drop? That is insane.
As an aside, how are you showing the Android L on screen buttons?

greyhulk said:
I'm not going to factory reset a phone a few days after I took it out of the box and set it up. That's ludicrous. It's set up exactly the same as several of my previous Android devices, none of which had this kind of drain.
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Then good luck.

boojay said:
Then good luck.
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Factory reset is the lazy answer and should only be a last resort, especially when the device had only been active for a few days.
That would be like telling someone to format their computer every time it slows down a little.

greyhulk said:
Factory reset is the lazy answer and should only be a last resort, especially when the device had only been active for a few days.
That would be like telling someone to format their computer every time it slows down a little.
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A factory reset at the very start is the best time to do it, rather than wait weeks, months from now when it would really be cumbersome, but anyway, you do whatever you think will help. I already tried offering help and you were pretty rude about it so I'm done.

boojay said:
A factory reset at the very start is the best time to do it, rather than wait weeks, months from now when it would really be cumbersome, but anyway, you do whatever you think will help. I already tried offering help and you were pretty rude about it so I'm done.
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You're kidding, right? Two days out of the box, I have every account set up, all of my music downloaded, all of my apps set up, and my interface tweaked to be the way I want it. It's not any easier now than it will be three months from now. There's also the fact that the device shouldn't run this way out of the box.
Whenever there's a battery thread or a person asking for help on this forum because they have a weird drain, there are two predictable responses that will be offered almost immediately:
Turn everything off - Yes, if you toggle everything off, you'll get good battery life, but then why even have a smartphone? Most modern smartphones are capable of getting decent battery life with all radios on all the time. This is not a solution.
Factory reset - I work in I.T. If I told someone to wipe their computer every time they reported an issue, I'd be out of a job. That should be an absolute last resort. I could see it on a phone that you'd been using for months that suddenly had battery issues and you couldn't figure out what the cause was, but a phone that has been set up less than a week? Please.
These kind of offered solutions aren't helpful, yet they're always the first ones offered. It has been this way since I took it out of the box on day one. So, it either it doesn't like one of the apps I installed from the get go, or it has another issue, or is defective. I mainly posted this thread to see if others were having my experience and a few have confirmed that they are.
So, I'm sorry if you're butt hurt, but I certainly wasn't trying to be rude. I was just disregarding a solution that I predicted someone would offer that is not an option at this point (and really shouldn't be). Anyway, thanks for trying, I guess. Just please be aware that if someone comes here looking for help, they're doing so because they don't WANT to wipe their phone or turn off all of its features. They're looking for an alternative solution. Even newbies know enough to wipe their phone when things aren't working right and it's the last thing they want to hear if they ask for assistance.

greyhulk said:
You're kidding, right? Two days out of the box, I have every account set up, all of my music downloaded, all of my apps set up, and my interface tweaked to be the way I want it. It's not any easier now than it will be three months from now. There's also the fact that the device shouldn't run this way out of the box.
Whenever there's a battery thread or a person asking for help on this forum because they have a weird drain, there are two predictable responses that will be offered almost immediately:
Turn everything off - Yes, if you toggle everything off, you'll get good battery life, but then why even have a smartphone? Most modern smartphones are capable of getting decent battery life with all radios on all the time. This is not a solution.
Factory reset - I work in I.T. If I told someone to wipe their computer every time they reported an issue, I'd be out of a job. That should be an absolute last resort. I could see it on a phone that you'd been using for months that suddenly had battery issues and you couldn't figure out what the cause was, but a phone that has been set up less than a week? Please.
These kind of offered solutions aren't helpful, yet they're always the first ones offered. It has been this way since I took it out of the box on day one. So, it either it doesn't like one of the apps I installed from the get go, or it has another issue, or is defective. I mainly posted this thread to see if others were having my experience and a few have confirmed that they are.
So, I'm sorry if you're butt hurt, but I certainly wasn't trying to be rude. I was just disregarding a solution that I predicted someone would offer that is not an option at this point (and really shouldn't be). Anyway, thanks for trying, I guess. Just please be aware that if someone comes here looking for help, they're doing so because they don't WANT to wipe their phone or turn off all of its features. They're looking for an alternative solution. Even newbies know enough to wipe their phone when things aren't working right and it's the last thing they want to hear if they ask for assistance.
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Actually without having the phone in hand there is little anyone can do to tell you what is draining the battery, the suggestions given are typical of tech support help if standard things don't work. So you can either take those suggestions or do more research since you have the phone in hand and find the problem. Based on the information given there really is no magic answer to help you.

Poor Battery Life?

To start off, I used to get pretty good battery life on this phone. I usually averaged somewhere around 3 to 4 hours of screen on time while still ending the day with over 20% left. This is from usage such as using the GPS for between 30 to 60 min, browsing reddit, watching youtube, and other stuff like that. I have slowly noticed that I have been getting worse and worse times until I finally decided to log them. I'm hoping that with the information I collected, you guys may be able to give me an idea of why my battery life sucks and what I can do about it. If it turns out my battery life is actually fine and I'm crazy, tell me that too haha. The link to the album with all of the screen shots is here: http://imgur.com/a/j7f3o
The first few images are of the battery logging app GSam Battery Monitor. Ignore the average screen on at the bottom of the first image because it's way too high as seen in the later images. The screenshots from the Android Battery Monitor are towards the end.
Quick Look
Screen On Time: 2h 43m
WiFi Always On
Bluetooth Always On (Pebble Watch)
No Active GPS Usage during Monitoring
Top 5 Consumers According to Android Battery Monitor:
Google Play Services (15%)
Screen (13%)
Google App (11%)
Android OS (11%)
Cell Standby (9%)
From GSAM
Discharge While Screen On/Off: 47%/50%
97% Battery Used on 15h 3m
35% of Battery Used by Screen
39% of Battery Used by Apps
Top 5 Apps by Consumption:
Android System (10.69%)
Reddit News (6.8%)
Kernal (Android OS) (6.1%)
Google App (2.6%)
Chrome (2.0%)
I really appreciate your helps and am hoping there is something I can do to help fix this while maintaining all of the functionality I enjoy with this phone. I've seen plenty of people on this forum getting amazing battery life and usage times and would love to join their ranks! Let me know if I can get you any other information and I'll get back to you as soon as I can.

aviola7x7 said:
To start off, I used to get pretty good battery life on this phone. I usually averaged somewhere around 3 to 4 hours of screen on time while still ending the day with over 20% left. This is from usage such as using the GPS for between 30 to 60 min, browsing reddit, watching youtube, and other stuff like that. I have slowly noticed that I have been getting worse and worse times until I finally decided to log them. I'm hoping that with the information I collected, you guys may be able to give me an idea of why my battery life sucks and what I can do about it. If it turns out my battery life is actually fine and I'm crazy, tell me that too haha. The link to the album with all of the screen shots is here: http://imgur.com/a/j7f3o
The first few images are of the battery logging app GSam Battery Monitor. Ignore the average screen on at the bottom of the first image because it's way too high as seen in the later images. The screenshots from the Android Battery Monitor are towards the end.
Quick Look
Screen On Time: 2h 43m
WiFi Always On
Bluetooth Always On (Pebble Watch)
No Active GPS Usage during Monitoring
Top 5 Consumers According to Android Battery Monitor:
Google Play Services (15%)
Screen (13%)
Google App (11%)
Android OS (11%)
Cell Standby (9%)
From GSAM
Discharge While Screen On/Off: 47%/50%
97% Battery Used on 15h 3m
35% of Battery Used by Screen
39% of Battery Used by Apps
Top 5 Apps by Consumption:
Android System (10.69%)
Reddit News (6.8%)
Kernal (Android OS) (6.1%)
Google App (2.6%)
Chrome (2.0%)
I really appreciate your helps and am hoping there is something I can do to help fix this while maintaining all of the functionality I enjoy with this phone. I've seen plenty of people on this forum getting amazing battery life and usage times and would love to join their ranks! Let me know if I can get you any other information and I'll get back to you as soon as I can.
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You should post that in the battery life OP. I'm sure someone there could help you out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2946742

mine lasts half a day too

I'm getting horrible battery life with ANY custom ROM I use, I might just go back to stock .

Jess813 said:
I'm getting horrible battery life with ANY custom ROM I use, I might just go back to stock .
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Generally, you should allow one to two days for everything to settle. Are you doing that?

[i know this is the Nexus 6 forum, but somebody else suggested i post here as you all seem to discuss battery life issues more than other phone forums]
Moto X 2014 running pre-rooted 5.0 with tether enabled, flashed with MOFO
i have wifi, bluetooth, as well as location services OFF
in the past 2 or 3 days my battery life has gone to crap. someone suggested there was a GPS update that is causing problems, but can't find any other info
the biggest drain seems to be Google Play Services, with >40% of the power usage.
1) anyone else experiencing this? if so, is there a solution or fix?
2) can Google Play Services be uninstalled/disabled (or frozen using Titanium Backup) safely

[email protected] said:
[i know this is the Nexus 6 forum, but somebody else suggested i post here as you all seem to discuss battery life issues more than other phone forums]
Moto X 2014 running pre-rooted 5.0 with tether enabled, flashed with MOFO
i have wifi, bluetooth, as well as location services OFF
in the past 2 or 3 days my battery life has gone to crap. someone suggested there was a GPS update that is causing problems, but can't find any other info
the biggest drain seems to be Google Play Services, with >40% of the power usage.
1) anyone else experiencing this? if so, is there a solution or fix?
2) can Google Play Services be uninstalled/disabled (or frozen using Titanium Backup) safely
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first off, you can try updating the google play services. use google and search google play services apk latest.

simms22 said:
first off, you can try updating the google play services. use google and search google play services apk latest.
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shouldn't this be updating through the play store?
i am not an experienced dev or anything... MOFO was about as much as i felt comfortable doing unless there are detailed step by step instructions somewhere.

[email protected] said:
shouldn't this be updating through the play store?
i am not an experienced dev or anything... MOFO was about as much as i felt comfortable doing unless there are detailed step by step instructions somewhere.
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play store, not usually. its usually gets updated by google through tour data connection, in the background. or, you can download the apk itself and install it(that how i get it updated sometimes).
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[email protected] said:
shouldn't this be updating through the play store?
i am not an experienced dev or anything... MOFO was about as much as i felt comfortable doing unless there are detailed step by step instructions somewhere.
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here is the latest. check what version you have installed, if its not this recent, install the latest. if it is the same, we will look in a different direction http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...ices-7-5-71-1955121-438-android-apk-download/

simms22 said:
play store, not usually. its usually gets updated by google through tour data connection, in the background. or, you can download the apk itself and install it(that how i get it updated sometimes).
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here is the latest. check what version you have installed, if its not this recent, install the latest. if it is the same, we will look in a different direction http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...ices-7-5-71-1955121-438-android-apk-download/
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my phone has the version you linked to 7-5-71-1955121-438
searching "google play services apk latest" brings up what appear to be later versions...
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-play-services/
...or are these for other phones?

[email protected] said:
my phone has the version you linked to 7-5-71-1955121-438
searching "google play services apk latest" brings up what appear to be later versions...
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-play-services/
...or are these for other phones?
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same one but different version, for a different device. there are many different versions, the one i linked is right. but you have it already, so forget that plan. your battery still doing the same?

simms22 said:
same one but different version, for a different device. there are many different versions, the one i linked is right. but you have it already, so forget that plan. your battery still doing the same?
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i am at 75% now. if i am down to below 10 by tomorrow morning, with phone just sitting next to my bed in the dark, not being used at all, then the problem is still happening. i'll report back... thanks.

simms22 said:
same one but different version, for a different device. there are many different versions, the one i linked is right. but you have it already, so forget that plan. your battery still doing the same?
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very wierd. battery life seems to be back to normal now. not sure what, if anything, changed.
thanks,

[Q] How do i fix google services battery drain?!

Never had a problem with this. How do I fix this its draining my droid battery like crazy. Help xda! please
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I'm having the same problem. Android System, Android Kernel and Google Play Services use up about 25% of my battery together.

screenfreak said:
Never had a problem with this. How do I fix this its draining my droid battery like crazy. Help xda! please
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Slartibartfast_ said:
I'm having the same problem. Android System, Android Kernel and Google Play Services use up about 25% of my battery together.
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It´s not so hard to search:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/google-play-services-battery-drain-t3083672

The Turbo is still on Kitkat, not on Lollipop. And disabling sync is not a solution, it's merely a workaround (and it doesn't even work for everyone).
Specifically in my case, Play Services only take about 4-5%. System and Kernel take about 20% together.

I am having the same issues as well. Seems to have just started in the past week or 2... Wondering if its a server side issue, or an issue related to the new Google Photos? Specifically today, my battery is draining twice as fast as normal. Already tried deleting the cache partition. Considering doing a factory reset and starting from scratch....

Slartibartfast_ said:
The Turbo is still on Kitkat, not on Lollipop. And disabling sync is not a solution, it's merely a workaround (and it doesn't even work for everyone).
Specifically in my case, Play Services only take about 4-5%. System and Kernel take about 20% together.
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Android version doesn't matter because the problem is related to the Play Services which are the same for all, and yes, it's not a solution but a workaround for the excessive drain, because currently there is no solution and I doubt it will have one; it seems that this will be the behaviour of the Play Services from now onwards.
StormFreak said:
I am having the same issues as well. Seems to have just started in the past week or 2... Wondering if its a server side issue, or an issue related to the new Google Photos? Specifically today, my battery is draining twice as fast as normal. Already tried deleting the cache partition. Considering doing a factory reset and starting from scratch....
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The problem are the new Play Services, they are draining a lot the battery and they are working all the time while we are on mobile data. Something is really messed there, because this happens only while on mobile data, and on WiFi they behave pretty decent. Currently, I have around 3% battery drain with the mobile background data disabled, but if I enable the data, the drain is around 20% and let me tell you that most of the time I spent it on places with WiFi (Home and Job).

Download wakelock terminator from play store. Add "Google play services" to the filtered apps, and paste this into the filter wakelock box.
NlpCollectorWakeLock
NlpWakeLock
CheckinService
NetworkLocationLocator
After doing this, I noticed hardly any battery drain and no functionality changes.

bill0405 said:
Download wakelock terminator from play store. Add "Google play services" to the filtered apps, and paste this into the filter wakelock box.
NlpCollectorWakeLock
NlpWakeLock
CheckinService
NetworkLocationLocator
After doing this, I noticed hardly any battery drain and no functionality changes.
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I don't see that app in the Play Store.
Does it require root?

distortedloop said:
I don't see that app in the Play Store.
Does it require root?
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I believe it does. Strange... But I just did a search and I don't see it in the store either. Perhaps you'd have some luck finding the apk on Google as they may have removed it.

This has been getting worse and worse for me over the last few days, even after wiping the cache from recovery. Today I've had my phone off the charger for 11 hours (on wifi the whole time, with a solid LTE signal), only 1:30 SOT, and the battery is under 10%. Google Play services has 4:19 CPU total and 3:19 keep awake., and is top on the battery stats with 38% (versus 16% screen).
I never thought I'd see Google be worse than Facebook at battery optimization. This is crazy.

Phobophobia said:
This has been getting worse and worse for me over the last few days, even after wiping the cache from recovery. Today I've had my phone off the charger for 11 hours (on wifi the whole time, with a solid LTE signal), only 1:30 SOT, and the battery is under 10%. Google Play services has 4:19 CPU total and 3:19 keep awake., and is top on the battery stats with 38% (versus 16% screen).
I never thought I'd see Google be worse than Facebook at battery optimization. This is crazy.
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Did you by chance do the wiping data of play services etc recently trying to check for lollipop updates? That causes sync issues (if you even did that). It's just odd that your battery life is so much worse than most people. I have my screen at 100% brightness all day, screen on time at 2h 47m and I'm at 68% battery left. My play services and Android system are both down at 3% each. And I've even been in and out of service all day. TBH I'd actually wipe your whole phone and start over at this point as you clearly have some abnormal behavior occurring.

TechSavvy2 said:
Did you by chance do the wiping data of play services etc recently trying to check for lollipop updates? That causes sync issues (if you even did that). It's just odd that your battery life is so much worse than most people. I have my screen at 100% brightness all day, screen on time at 2h 47m and I'm at 68% battery left. My play services and Android system are both down at 3% each. And I've even been in and out of service all day. TBH I'd actually wipe your whole phone and start over at this point as you clearly have some abnormal behavior occurring.
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Nope, just the cache (and only after the battery issues started). I have a lot of accounts syncing, but haven't changed my usage patterns at all recently, and until the last week or so I was easily getting 4+ hours of SOT in a 16-hour day with plenty left over.
I'm planning to wipe when 5.1 arrives, so hopefully we'll get lucky (relatively speaking...) and get it this week. Hopefully.

Phobophobia said:
This has been getting worse and worse for me over the last few days, even after wiping the cache from recovery. Today I've had my phone off the charger for 11 hours (on wifi the whole time, with a solid LTE signal), only 1:30 SOT, and the battery is under 10%. Google Play services has 4:19 CPU total and 3:19 keep awake., and is top on the battery stats with 38% (versus 16% screen).
I never thought I'd see Google be worse than Facebook at battery optimization. This is crazy.
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since you're on wifi most of the time, try disabling mobile data and restrict background data.

I uninstalled Google+ over the weekend and coincidentally or not my battery drain rate today seems much lower then what I've been seeing the last few weeks. Could be placebo effect and faulty memory too but with normal use and 5 hours in I'm only down 20% which is consistent with the 4% per hour that I remember when I first got my Turbo.

rgerrans said:
I uninstalled Google+ over the weekend and coincidentally or not my battery drain rate today seems much lower then what I've been seeing the last few weeks. Could be placebo effect and faulty memory too but with normal use and 5 hours in I'm only down 20% which is consistent with the 4% per hour that I remember when I first got my Turbo.
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Google+ likes to reside in the memory. Even if you kill it, it will come back. I stopped using it because of that.

I had this problem too. HOT phone, 4 or 5 hours of battery life with Google Play services at the top of battery usage, 3-4 hours of awake time. It started on Friday or Saturday for me. Not sure if it is related, but it is after I installed the new Google Photos. Uninstalling that and turning off Google photo sync didn't fix it.
I ended up factory wiping to "fix" it. Same apps loaded, including Google photos, same version of google play services, no more drain or hot phone.
Issues like this absolutely drive me crazy.

I'm another victim of this bug.
I'm 2.5 hours off the charger. Google Play Services has used 1 hour, 42 minutes of CPU time, and is responsible for 53% of the battery drain (100%->68%). This started late last week. I didn't install anything new then, but I had previously installed the new Photos app, which some people believe is related to this problem. Disabling and uninstalling that app didn't help.
This is pretty infuriating. Restoring app data on unrooted Android devices is a pain. Helium is great, but doesn't reliably bring back game state data for many titles. I wouldn't mind doing a factory reset as much if I could actually recover all my data.
Edit: I'm really hoping to avoid a FDR. Looking at the Process Stats under Developer Options, I see location-related services under Google Play Services have very high usage rates. They're all at 100%. It's not unusual for a couple services under Google Play Services to show up at ~100%, but I've never seen so many services show up like that unless I'm having issues. I'll post a screenshot once I get network access on my phone.

No trouble with Play services at all. Consistently low drain, even with Google+ running all the time. Doesn't matter if I'm on wifi or lte.

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No trouble with Play services at all. Consistently low drain, even with Google+ running all the time. Doesn't matter if I'm on wifi or lte.
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Do you have the new Google Photos update installed?

Newest Photos, and as of now, the newest Play services installed.
Hasn't been an issue...

Poor battery performance, what to do?

Hey guys, I'm wondering what can I do to improve my Note 8 battery life. Seems to me that is draining and I do not get the chance to use it too much. Maybe you have an idea how to optimize and track the apps are overusing the battery, so far I was not able to detect which app/component drains my battery. Even Samsung seems that doesn't know since there is no message regarding background processes with heavy usage.
Basically I finished fully charging at 9:15 AM and now 16:15PM time I started to write the post and make the screenshots, it has 16%. What I did all this time with the phone, was:
- a bit of browsing,
- make one NFC payment,
- have the S3 gear connected on bluetooth.
- few twitter messages and viber really small usage. (less than 40 messages overall)
So here are my settings
- WIFI is off and I'm using 3G connection (I stopped LTE thinking that requires more battery.. , correct me if I'm wrong please),
- screen not even on 50% and auto brightness off (using HD+ and a dark theme, everything is so dark!)
- AOD
- no led, no gestures (most of them I turn off for testing purpose)
- Medium battery saver on.
- No phone calls
- few notifications (not more than 20, also the notification is optimized to apps I'm concerned)
Any suggestion how to make it to end of working day .. at least?
I was waiting so long for a new note and now I'm a bit disappointed and I hope that is something I do wrong..
Funny is I just realized that by mistake I put the phone on airplane mode while making the screenshots, still percentage was flying away even like this. I lost 2% making screenshots in a matter of couple of minutes.
Please find the screenshots attached in the link down bellow, were to big to add them to the post.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B7hYWRFdyQqPOFp3alVYNUxJUW8?usp=sharing
Thanks!

you might have some apps draining battery. I'm used to a rooted phone, so I'd always check with wakelock detector, but I'm not sure what you can do without installing an app as a system app.
Try factory resetting your phone and using it without installing anything for a day and see what the battery life is like. If it's significantly better, install your apps 1 by 1 until you find out which one is causing unnecessary cpu cycles or wakelocks.

Quiksmage said:
you might have some apps draining battery. I'm used to a rooted phone, so I'd always check with wakelock detector, but I'm not sure what you can do without installing an app as a system app.
Try factory resetting your phone and using it without installing anything for a day and see what the battery life is like. If it's significantly better, install your apps 1 by 1 until you find out which one is causing unnecessary cpu cycles or wakelocks.
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But I wonder, I shouldn't see the heavy usage on the battery info page? Like which app does most of the usage and time spend in the background or CPU?

I had excessive battery drain, about 10-11% an hour with every off . A full factory reset cured the problem.

What's your screen on time usage? 5-6 is probably the normal amount you would get with most phones (This is the most important thing if nothings draining the battery). And yes, it seems you might need a factory reset.

Raklik said:
But I wonder, I shouldn't see the heavy usage on the battery info page? Like which app does most of the usage and time spend in the background or CPU?
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You won't always see this as it could be a byproduct causing a kernel wakelock.
Either way, something is acting incorrectly. The only way to really figure it out is to start over and try things slowly till you find out what it is.
For instance, on my nvidia shield tablet k-1, I was getting horrendous battery life on every single rom, stock or AOSP/Lineage. I found that I was getting 30% wakelock killing ~20% battery life per day when it should be sub 5%. I found that wifi was causing these kernel wakelocks and setting wifi to be disabled with the screen off unless charging fixed the issue entirely.
Now, that anecdote likely has nothing to do with what you're experiencing, but note that you can usually find out what's wrong from trial and error.

I've had my note 8 for 6 days now, and battery life is excellent, i mean i have wi-fi and 4g lte on all the time, bluetooth on all the time, sync with 3 emails, Facebook, weather widget, weather screen refresh every 30mins, location high accuracy, edge lighting, aod schedule 7pm-7am, was 100% at 6am, played games on it lots, used the phone 2x, 1 hour call and a 30 mins call, text messages, it's 130pm and I'm at 55%, try a factory reset then log in to your gmail then just try to update the phone if there is any. Then reboot then start installing your apps. If it doesn't work call carrier customer service and complain about the battery not holding up like some people you know who has note 8. They might replace it with a new one.
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What's your screen on time usage? 5-6 is probably the normal amount you would get with most phones (This is the most important thing if nothings draining the battery). And yes, it seems you might need a factory reset.
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Phone died 15-20 minutes after I did the screenshots, so a bit more than 2 hours...
So.. yeah.. I will try a factory reset and start install all the apps bit by bit and see which one causes the troubles.. hopefully is nothing more than that.

Did you restore a backup or did you load your apps fresh from the play store?
I've had horrible luck with issues like battery life restoring from backups. I always install apps fresh.

douger1957 said:
Did you restore a backup or did you load your apps fresh from the play store?
I've had horrible luck with issues like battery life restoring from backups. I always install apps fresh.
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I did a google restore from backup! Damn! And I was thinking that I should maybe to a clean, one by one app install.

My battery life is also not great but im using full resolution and when i remember time when i got S6 edge on launch....the battery was horrible but after few updates it was perfect so stay strong and wait a bit

jirka607 said:
My battery life is also not great but im using full resolution and when i remember time when i got S6 edge on launch....the battery was horrible but after few updates it was perfect so stay strong and wait a bit
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can you translate "not great" in hours? :laugh: Because I will say that mine is second after horrible.. with update done.
I will start the reset in a short while and I will test it tomorrow with minimum apps installed.. those which I really must have in a working day..

Maximum 5 hrs on wifi normally about 3-4 battery is not great on note yet....some optimalization would be nice

I use Ampere to monitor the instan drain of current. In a quiet situation (screen on, internet or tapatalk browsing, gear connected, wifi and data turned on) you should have something 200 mA drain.
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Maybe some of the settings changes you're making are somehow rendering your phone less efficient.
I have the USA unlocked version and use it as it came without changing to a dark theme or turning anything off and the battery life is much better than yours.

douger1957 said:
Did you restore a backup or did you load your apps fresh from the play store?
I've had horrible luck with issues like battery life restoring from backups. I always install apps fresh.
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I restored from a helium backup. My battery life wasn't good for about a week but it did last all day down to 20-30% at the end of the day. After a week it has improved maybe due to apps updating. Now I'm at 70-80% at the end of the day with moderate use. I have disabled several apps I didn't need as well.

Seems like it's hit or miss with the battery life. I see a lot of people happy and some are having problems. Hopefully Samsung might push a update to help.

Get cpu spy and verify that your devoce is going into deep sleep when off(mine wasnt at first until i froze/removed some rouge apps). Install accubattery and do a benchmark and see how your battery does. At least do 6 discharge cycles first to see an average. Also, in device maintenance, you can make all apps doze when not being used now.. this is a new feature. Add all of your apps and they get put to sleep immediately. I get 8 hours SOT this way
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Raklik said:
Hey guys, I'm wondering what can I do to improve my Note 8 battery life. Seems to me that is draining and I do not get the chance to use it too much. Maybe you have an idea how to optimize and track the apps are overusing the battery, so far I was not able to detect which app/component drains my battery. Even Samsung seems that doesn't know since there is no message regarding background processes with heavy usage.
Basically I finished fully charging at 9:15 AM and now 16:15PM time I started to write the post and make the screenshots, it has 16%. What I did all this time with the phone, was:
- a bit of browsing,
- make one NFC payment,
- have the S3 gear connected on bluetooth.
- few twitter messages and viber really small usage. (less than 40 messages overall)
So here are my settings
- WIFI is off and I'm using 3G connection (I stopped LTE thinking that requires more battery.. , correct me if I'm wrong please),
- screen not even on 50% and auto brightness off (using HD+ and a dark theme, everything is so dark!)
- AOD
- no led, no gestures (most of them I turn off for testing purpose)
- Medium battery saver on.
- No phone calls
- few notifications (not more than 20, also the notification is optimized to apps I'm concerned)
Any suggestion how to make it to end of working day .. at least?
I was waiting so long for a new note and now I'm a bit disappointed and I hope that is something I do wrong..
Funny is I just realized that by mistake I put the phone on airplane mode while making the screenshots, still percentage was flying away even like this. I lost 2% making screenshots in a matter of couple of minutes.
Please find the screenshots attached in the link down bellow, were to big to add them to the post.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B7hYWRFdyQqPOFp3alVYNUxJUW8?usp=sharing
Thanks!
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You dont have to use med battery saver either, just read my reply on this thread and you will be good. You may have to experiment a little to get your device to go into deep sleep when screen off. Mine didnt at first. Its on my other comment
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I got back from work and my phone was at 75% that's between 9:30am and 6:30 pm. So my battery life is pretty good. I lose about 5% overnight.

I average 7hrs screen time Got 8hrs yesterday
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Battery drain from Android system

The last 3 days out of no where my n9 has gone from average 6hr sot to barely 3hr sot and literally nothing has changed on my phone. I haven't gotten any system updates and the app updates i got shouldn't have anything to do with Android system. But out of no where it started chewing up my battery. Ive seen it get up to 30% battery use at one point. Ive tried literally EVERYTHING every little trick to fix this including a last resort factory reset (and fresh install) which I did today. And unfortunately Android system is STILL chewing battery @11% useage so far since i factory reset and fully charged my phone today. I'm at a loss. Anyone else experiencing this and know how I might be able to fix this? I have a pre ordered 128gb tmobile and it has sept patch but no camera patch.
P.s. when i take my spen out it smells like an overcharged fuse or something idk how to explain it but it has a smell

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The last 3 days out of no where my n9 has gone from average 6hr sot to barely 3hr sot and literally nothing has changed on my phone. I haven't gotten any system updates and the app updates i got shouldn't have anything to do with Android system. But out of no where it started chewing up my battery. Ive seen it get up to 30% battery use at one point. Ive tried literally EVERYTHING every little trick to fix this including a last resort factory reset (and fresh install) which I did today. And unfortunately Android system is STILL chewing battery @11% useage so far since i factory reset and fully charged my phone today. I'm at a loss. Anyone else experiencing this and know how I might be able to fix this? I have a pre ordered 128gb tmobile and it has sept patch but no camera patch.
P.s. when i take my spen out it smells like an overcharged fuse or something idk how to explain it but it has a smell
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Not sure, but the tip of my S-Pen smells similar ,but no battery issues so far.
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I had the exact same issue with my V20 a few months ago. Turns out it was 2 apps that had updates and just jacked up my battery life. Both of them were audio apps. Particularly equalizer apps.

I still have my s8+ with all the same apps and it doesn't have the battery drain so i dont get it

Tbolt86 said:
I still have my s8+ with all the same apps and it doesn't have the battery drain so i dont get it
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Have you ran it in safe mode or airplane mode to see how much drain you have overnight?
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Tbolt86 said:
The last 3 days out of no where my n9 has gone from average 6hr sot to barely 3hr sot and literally nothing has changed on my phone. I haven't gotten any system updates and the app updates i got shouldn't have anything to do with Android system. But out of no where it started chewing up my battery. Ive seen it get up to 30% battery use at one point. Ive tried literally EVERYTHING every little trick to fix this including a last resort factory reset (and fresh install) which I did today. And unfortunately Android system is STILL chewing battery @11% useage so far since i factory reset and fully charged my phone today. I'm at a loss. Anyone else experiencing this and know how I might be able to fix this? I have a pre ordered 128gb tmobile and it has sept patch but no camera patch.
P.s. when i take my spen out it smells like an overcharged fuse or something idk how to explain it but it has a smell
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When u say it reduced to 3 hr SOT, can u see what are the top apps on battery consumption list. Is it android system or play store services or some other app. Reduced sot battery would have counted against another app right

Ignore the sot in this screenshot as i bump charged it a few times today but this is whats taking up my battery.
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Here is the best i ever got out of the phone this was back in August
https://i.imgur.com/Htdra3N.jpg
I dont know why the second picture isn't showing

No battery issues but Verizon 128gb the spen tip does have a very slight burnt electronics smell. Very very faint but definitely burnt electronics.

Just a quick note i still have my s8+ with all the sane apps and its not having this battery issue so i don't understand whats wrong

Tbolt86 said:
Ignore the sot in this screenshot as i bump charged it a few times today but this is whats taking up my battery.
Here is the best i ever got out of the phone this was back in August
https://i.imgur.com/Htdra3N.jpg
I dont know why the second picture isn't showing
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Is 'Settings -- Backup Reset -- Backup Google Data' is ON or OFF? If not keep it off.
Other thing is face book, I disabled factory provided facebook/service using package disabler and use facebook lite from beginning. Not sure why samsung kept facebook in factory software.

sri4xda said:
Is 'Settings -- Backup Reset -- Backup Google Data' is ON or OFF? If not keep it off.
Other thing is face book, I disabled factory provided facebook/service using package disabler and use facebook lite from beginning. Not sure why samsung kept facebook in factory software.
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I just did those things, we'll see what happens. I used to use fb lite but it got too annoying so i rather use the regular version. Thanks for the tips

I think i might of fixed it i did all those tips including fb lite, and i also switched to nova home screen. It must of been the Samsung experience app imo that was the culprit cause now Android system is at 1%. We'll see what happens as the battery gets low but for now it seems to have been solved I hope...

Tbolt86 said:
I think i might of fixed it i did all those tips including fb lite, and i also switched to nova home screen. It must of been the Samsung experience app imo that was the culprit cause now Android system is at 1%. We'll see what happens as the battery gets low but for now it seems to have been solved I hope...
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Cloud back up efficiency is still not achieved to call it great and is a tricky one and haunted battery drain/heat up issues in iphones in the beginning and later in many android devices. Non optimised cloud back up runs all the time in background to figure out what is modified content to backup from what is alredy backed up.
I would always recommend to manually backup stuff once in a while. Atleast for me, auto backup all the time is waste of resources in mobile.
In samsung many other battery saving settings available, one is always sleeping apps in battery to ensure apps put to sleep in background and other one is notifications permission (we can stop notifications from all apps and enable only few what we require rather than on for all apps) I use.

Thank you everyone for all the tips and tricks. I am happy go announce that the battery drain is gone. The culprit was indeed the Samsung home screen. Replacing with nova fixed it completely. And not only that but paired with some of your battery saving advice helped me achieve an even better battery than i get on average which was 6 hrs sot.

sri4xda said:
Is 'Settings -- Backup Reset -- Backup Google Data' is ON or OFF? If not keep it off.
Other thing is face book, I disabled factory provided facebook/service using package disabler and use facebook lite from beginning. Not sure why samsung kept facebook in factory software.
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Sorry if i sound like a noob, but is there a way to disable automatic backup to google drive (because thats what you meant right? ) without it deleating the existing backup? because when I go to settings-accounts-backup and restore-google account and try to disable the backup in google drive it tells me that its going to delete the existing copy

TonyGzl92 said:
Sorry if i sound like a noob, but is there a way to disable automatic backup to google drive (because thats what you meant right? ) without it deleating the existing backup? because when I go to settings-accounts-backup and restore-google account and try to disable the backup in google drive it tells me that its going to delete the existing copy
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Actually you can back up data to samsung cloud rather than google. Samsung backup you can do manually.
Yes it might remove current device back up from google today. I heard Google provided option to manual back up without deleting backups in pie.

Go To apps setting and force close bixby voice wake up.

sri4xda said:
Actually you can back up data to samsung cloud rather than google. Samsung backup you can do manually.
Yes it might remove current device back up from google today. I heard Google provided option to manual back up without deleting backups in pie.
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Yeah I thought so too. I'll start using the Samsung one instead. Thanks

Tbolt86 said:
The last 3 days out of no where my n9 has gone from average 6hr sot to barely 3hr sot and literally nothing has changed on my phone. I haven't gotten any system updates and the app updates i got shouldn't have anything to do with Android system. But out of no where it started chewing up my battery. Ive seen it get up to 30% battery use at one point. Ive tried literally EVERYTHING every little trick to fix this including a last resort factory reset (and fresh install) which I did today. And unfortunately Android system is STILL chewing battery @11% useage so far since i factory reset and fully charged my phone today. I'm at a loss. Anyone else experiencing this and know how I might be able to fix this? I have a pre ordered 128gb tmobile and it has sept patch but no camera patch.
P.s. when i take my spen out it smells like an overcharged fuse or something idk how to explain it but it has a smell
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Samsung pay is culprit, I'm also facing same issue till yesterday after force stop SAMSUNG PAY, now i got my old battery life, for 10hr standby takes 6 percentage of charge but before 30 percentage.

I am having the same problem. What I don't understand is why making the changes talked about here are even required. Those settings weren't done prior to this week and the battery was great.