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I've only had my Touch Diamond for a few days and its freakin awesome so far.
Im trying to understand something though. Is the data connection always open? it seems like it is, because when you click on the little H next to your signal bars, it tells yo how long its been open for.
Im sure this is a nasty drain on battery life isnt it? i dont need it open all the time. it would be great if it disconnected itself when it wasnt being used.
can i do this somehow? other than manually of course which is a major pain.
You can always tweak your settings manually or using Advanced Config to have the data disconnect after X-minutes.
aphexacid said:
I've only had my Touch Diamond for a few days and its freakin awesome so far.
Im trying to understand something though. Is the data connection always open? it seems like it is, because when you click on the little H next to your signal bars, it tells yo how long its been open for.
Im sure this is a nasty drain on battery life isnt it? i dont need it open all the time. it would be great if it disconnected itself when it wasnt being used.
can i do this somehow? other than manually of course which is a major pain.
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Hi aphexacid!
Try those 2 little apps, it's working for me quite well...It will manage your data connections and you can configure then as well!
Good luck with your shiny diamond
Regards
Jeroen
Has anyone seen this? I just installed the 15 day trial and it seems pretty stable.
http://mundu.com/products/mundu-im/screenshots
Also the only way I found the apk was through the site. I havent found it on the Market yet...
checking this out now. i like it so far. HiAIM is nice, but i dont like chat bubbles plus this will let me on all of the rest of the services too, it's like trillian for android.
I can't seem to connect to it, my AIM just sits at "Authenticating..." for ever
You know it was working perfectly for me at first. Now its doing the same thing you describe.
Ugh. Why cant we find ONE im app that stays connected?
Senorkabob said:
You know it was working perfectly for me at first. Now its doing the same thing you describe.
Ugh. Why cant we find ONE im app that stays connected?
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Hello IM does
and now Meebo does too, i mena it disconnects from time to time, but the auto-reconnect works perfectly.
AbsoluteDesignz said:
Hello IM does
and now Meebo does too, i mena it disconnects from time to time, but the auto-reconnect works perfectly.
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Excuse me, but Meebo absolutely SUCKS !!!
Jefpier said:
Excuse me, but Meebo absolutely SUCKS !!!
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Actually, the latest update has been working amazingly well.
Bu I'm gonna check this one out as well.
Actually, forget that.
$11,- for a chat app?
hahahahahahahaha.
I prefer Palringo myself. Does all those except ICQ and Jabber I beleive.
http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.paxmodept.palringo.android.main
Meebo build 15 keeps you on now and auto-reconnects. It will also notify you if it is unable to reconnect due to no data (edge/3g/wifi).
I'll give this a run.
After running Mundu for the trial period, I decided not to buy it. It disconnects way too often and when it does, it will stick at "Authenticating..." until I force close the app and restart it. It's too bad, I really love the interface and has all that I am looking for but I need AIM to stay connected.
I e-mailed support and of course they blame my connection. But here I am using HiAIM and it doesn't disconnect, EVER. I guess I'll have to live with the lack of great interface/options in HiAIM.
I see someone never mentioned ebuddy or buddymob both are great IM applications and buddymob have yet to log me out unless i make a phone call or incoming call, which leave me wondering if it does that to every IM application out there?
Salku said:
I see someone never mentioned ebuddy or buddymob both are great IM applications and buddymob have yet to log me out unless i make a phone call or incoming call, which leave me wondering if it does that to every IM application out there?
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If you're on Edge, you lose data connecton during phone calls. If you're connected via 3g or wifi, your IM connection wouldn't drop. I use both Hello IM! and Meebo (not at the same time) and both of them rarely log me off because I'm either on wifi or 3g connection.
Salku said:
I see someone never mentioned ebuddy or buddymob both are great IM applications and buddymob have yet to log me out unless i make a phone call or incoming call, which leave me wondering if it does that to every IM application out there?
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Are you sure you aren't losing connection and it is reconnecting? People told me Palringo wouldnt disconnect for them, but testing it I found it disconnected quite frequently and was just fast to reconnect. Definitely a turn off for your friends that have you on a buddy list
DOHCtor said:
If you're on Edge, you lose data connecton during phone calls. If you're connected via 3g or wifi, your IM connection wouldn't drop. I use both Hello IM! and Meebo (not at the same time) and both of them rarely log me off because I'm either on wifi or 3g connection.
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I do have 3G on my cell but yet it logs off and reconnects after the conversation ends.
tekkitan said:
Are you sure you aren't losing connection and it is reconnecting? People told me Palringo wouldnt disconnect for them, but testing it I found it disconnected quite frequently and was just fast to reconnect. Definitely a turn off for your friends that have you on a buddy list
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Yes infact it really does annoys and i noticed my friend logged in and out because of it. I noticed it reconnected because of the notification bar, does HI IM have one?
Salku said:
I do have 3G on my cell but yet it logs off and reconnects after the conversation ends.
Yes infact it really does annoys an i noticed my friend logged in and out because of it. I noticed it reconnected because of the notification bar, does HI IM have one?
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Have one what? HiAIM does not disconnect me at all (unless I am on a call, not it's fault though). I tested this by keeping an IM open with my cell phone's AIM screen name and no notices of sign off/on. I did this same thing with Palringo and would see it reconnect every few minutes.
It sucks because I like the Mundu interface, but I can't find anything as stable as HiAIM. Maybe I'll dust off my programming knowledge and try to create something on my own that will have a customizable interface as well as a stable connection
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Have one what? HiAIM does not disconnect me at all (unless I am on a call, not it's fault though). I tested this by keeping an IM open with my cell phone's AIM screen name and no notices of sign off/on. I did this same thing with Palringo and would see it reconnect every few minutes.
It sucks because I like the Mundu interface, but I can't find anything as stable as HiAIM. Maybe I'll dust off my programming knowledge and try to create something on my own that will have a customizable interface as well as a stable connection
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Well the customization doesnt sound half bad so people can find their own colours, but im going to test out the connection thru every messenger connection.
IM
I use meebo and it has always been stable, the autostart and UI works well. Plus its free.
I'm using wifi-tether and also tried usb tethering and my internet works, but no images ever load up. Laptop doesn't have any problems, as it loads pictures fine when I'm connected to my FIOS service. Anyone have a clue as to why?
Thanks
It is a conspiracy to keep you from your porn. In all seriousness, I am not sure why this happens, but you are not alone.
oreoleo said:
I'm using wifi-tether and also tried usb tethering and my internet works, but no images ever load up. Laptop doesn't have any problems, as it loads pictures fine when I'm connected to my FIOS service. Anyone have a clue as to why?
Thanks
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Have you considered the possibility that this may be related to your ISP? Tethering works, and the components used for tethering in the phone don't care if you are receiving an HTML file or a PNG image -- data is data.
My ISP is Tmobile USA. I'm on the east coast
oreoleo said:
My ISP is Tmobile USA. I'm on the east coast
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Is that supposed to be some kind of an answer?
oreoleo said:
My ISP is Tmobile USA. I'm on the east coast
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I also have Tmo, and notice this too. The strange thing is that the image will load in the phone browser, but not in my computer browser when tethered.
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Is that supposed to be some kind of an answer?
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Since you mentioned it might be ISP related, I decided to provide the name of my ISP in hope of someone posting a way to circumvent the problem.
Rather than mentioning it (which is useless), you need to TEST it and post RESULTS.
lbcoder said:
Rather than mentioning it (which is useless), you need to TEST it and post RESULTS.
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How would I prove that. I believe all http data comes in the same port. I can't view pictures while they're integrated into webpages, but if I type in the URL of the jpg it would load by iteself.
Hi,
I have this big, big problem with my carrier (Orange Spain) where they are charging me an arm and an eye for data connections I didn't make. I mean I just got this month's bill and I owe them 150€! Looking at it in detail I see numerous data connections ranging in the tens or hundreds of megs, made when I wasn't even using the phone. There's even one where I supposedly used 1,7 Gb!
They assure me that the connections have been made even if I'm not aware of them, and said that maybe they're due to a faulty phone. Is there a known problem with the N1 or any Android apps where they might be using those huge amounts of data without the user knowing it?
The apps use as much data as you let them use.
For example, if you have unprotected tethering turned on - you're providing all your surroundings with free internet on your account. Don't be surprised that doing it will result in huge bills.
No, there is no "known problem". Apps use internet connection, some more, some less. Want to control it? Install 3G Watchdog or any other app that checks the amount of data traffic used, and find what's using it.
what apps do you have that sync data?
gallery syncing with Picasa?
Lookup mobile security backing up your photos?
email accounts with sync amount=all?
data is fairly heavy with the phone, I average around 5-8gbs/month
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For example, if you have unprotected tethering turned on - you're providing all your surroundings with free internet on your account.
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Nope, I don't. I wasn't even tethering by USB at the time these connections were made.
Jack_R1 said:
No, there is no "known problem". Apps use internet connection, some more, some less. Want to control it? Install 3G Watchdog or any other app that checks the amount of data traffic used, and find what's using it.
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Does 3G Watchdog tell you which app is using / has used the data?
britoso said:
what apps do you have that sync data?
gallery syncing with Picasa?
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Yep... but no new photos were uploaded.
britoso said:
Lookup mobile security backing up your photos?
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No, none of that.
britoso said:
email accounts with sync amount=all?
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Yes... still, those amount to 5-10 mails a day, tops.
osugsxr said:
data is fairly heavy with the phone, I average around 5-8gbs/month
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I never surpassed 400Mb before this, and I haven't changed my habits at all. Suddenly I'm over 3Gb.
No, 3G Watchdog doesn't tell you what app used the traffic. But there are others that do. Recently someone asked about such app, try to search the forum.
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I never surpassed 400Mb before this, and I haven't changed my habits at all. Suddenly I'm over 3Gb.
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Well, that should rule out Android itself from your OP. It must be an app. Newsrob? You should look into any app that autosyncs. Also check their sync interval settings.
Alright, I ran some tests regarding this problem yesterday. First I turned off the phone and removed the SIM card, to see if there was any data traffic. I suspect my carrier is charging me for fake connections, so it was important to rule out the possibility of they registering connections while the card was removed.
I had it off for the rest of the day and, as expected, no connections were registered.
Then I installed 3G Watchdog and something curious happened: 3G Watchdog says I've spent exactly 91,4Kb, but Orange's web says I've spent 3,4Mb.
This brings a question, and the answer is very very important to me: is is possible that the phone is making connections and these are going unregistered by 3G Watchdog? That is, that the phone is using the Internet and 3G Watchdog doesn't see it?
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Alright, I ran some tests regarding this problem yesterday. First I turned off the phone and removed the SIM card, to see if there was any data traffic. I suspect my carrier is charging me for fake connections, so it was important to rule out the possibility of they registering connections while the card was removed.
I had it off for the rest of the day and, as expected, no connections were registered.
Then I installed 3G Watchdog and something curious happened: 3G Watchdog says I've spent exactly 91,4Kb, but Orange's web says I've spent 3,4Mb.
This brings a question, and the answer is very very important to me: is is possible that the phone is making connections and these are going unregistered by 3G Watchdog? That is, that the phone is using the Internet and 3G Watchdog doesn't see it?
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Interesting. I would also argue that there is a lot more "background" data going on in android than on other mobile OS.
No, the connections don't go "unnoticed" by 3G Watchdog. But the charge for the connections isn't always calculated in "straightforward" way, as one would expect - please try to find earlier threads for it, I remember someone bringing this point already, and if I'm not mistaken - it was for one of the European carriers. For example, carriers can charge for any data packet, regardless of its size, as minimum of X size - so if you have an app that syncs and it has downloaded 5kB from the internet in 10 packets, it'll still register as charge for 100kB of data on your provider's site.
Check if they recently changed the calculation of the data charges - it might be the answer why suddenly you see your data usage blown.
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Interesting. I would also argue that there is a lot more "background" data going on in android than on other mobile OS.
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This is, obviously, your bias showing and nothing more. There is no "background" data besides the obvious data - Gmail? Email? Contact sync (only when contacts change)? Data-syncing apps? Data-downloading apps (Maps/Navigation)? They're not present on "other mobile OS"? If they are - they draw the same data.
You might argue that Android gives a lot more "connectivity" to use by default, so users end up using a lot more data. That's closer to the truth - since Google apps rely on web availability, and they're available by default and easily accessible, they end up being used. On the other hand, it doesn't differ from installing those apps on any other mobile platform that supports it.
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No, the connections don't go "unnoticed" by 3G Watchdog. But the charge for the connections isn't always calculated in "straightforward" way, as one would expect - please try to find earlier threads for it, I remember someone bringing this point already, and if I'm not mistaken - it was for one of the European carriers. For example, carriers can charge for any data packet, regardless of its size, as minimum of X size - so if you have an app that syncs and it has downloaded 5kB from the internet in 10 packets, it'll still register as charge for 100kB of data on your provider's site.
Check if they recently changed the calculation of the data charges - it might be the answer why suddenly you see your data usage blown.
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I already took that into account: some of the connections Orange is charging me for don't amount to a Kylobyte, so we can discard that. And I have single connections that range from the tens of Megs to a top of 1.67Gb. All of them connections I didn't make, obviously.
Install this:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.curvefish.apps.trafficinfo
And check, what is connecting. If it's your phone at all.
Thanks, I've just started using it.
Run:
tcpdump -vv -s 0 -w /sdcard/output.cap
After a while, open that on your computer using WIRESHARK. It will tell you EXACTLY WHERE your phone is connecting to, as well as what protocol it is using, and even (if it isn't encrypted data), what data is being transferred.
frandavid100 said:
Thanks, I've just started using it.
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I am encountering the same issue (not so huge leaks but unknown as well)
TrafficInfo says me the following components use that data (every day lots of megabytes):
MediaStorage
DRM Protected Content Storage
Download Manager
have you figured out what that was?
Please let us know.
Thank you in advance
lbcoder said:
Run:
tcpdump -vv -s 0 -w /sdcard/output.cap
After a while, open that on your computer using WIRESHARK. It will tell you EXACTLY WHERE your phone is connecting to, as well as what protocol it is using, and even (if it isn't encrypted data), what data is being transferred.
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Thanks a lot man,
I don't know what that was in case of frandavid100,
but thanks to you I've figured out what is happening on my side.
I did tcpdump -vv -s 0 -w /sdcard/output.cap as you mentioned.
Your wise advice and mighty tool let me understand that my N1 downloads FRG83 firmware update from Google servers some times per day (but it can't install it because CM6 ROM is on board).
I really appreciate your help ! Thanks again.
Ok guys, seriously. This device is amazing except for the fact that the wifi on it
absolutely sucks.
Is it hardware, and do I need to go exchange mine,
or is it software?
Try loading dropbox.. how fast do the files dl? Have you tried tethering to a 3g phone to compare speeds or tested other networks? Are you just testing browser speed and have you tried Opera or Dolphin HD to compare?
Dropbox is REALLY slow and fails to download more often than it succeeds. Which sucks cause I am using it to save the apps that I want in case there's an update that wipes everything.
Dolphin HD is not bad, but still really slow. like 10 seconds for google.com to load.
I have an alternate market installed, and its good, but almost useless since It fails to download so often.
EDIT: oops, I do not have tethering on a 3g since I am not paying the rediculous 3g fees when I have wifi everywhere. I would literally never use the 3g.
And since you are required to get a data plan if you get an android, or any other smartphone, that is out of my reach.
I wonder if the cell companies realize that they are losing money this way?
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Dropbox is REALLY slow and fails to download more often than it succeeds. Which sucks cause I am using it to save the apps that I want in case there's an update that wipes everything.
Dolphin HD is not bad, but still really slow. like 10 seconds for google.com to load.
I have an alternate market installed, and its good, but almost useless since It fails to download so often.
EDIT: oops, I do not have tethering on a 3g since I am not paying the rediculous 3g fees when I have wifi everywhere. I would literally never use the 3g.
And since you are required to get a data plan if you get an android, or any other smartphone, that is out of my reach.
I wonder if the cell companies realize that they are losing money this way?
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Have you tested other networks? Is the wifi weak where you live? If yes to both swap the NC with another unit.. My 3g/wifi tethered connection is about 4 seconds to load google on the stock browser. Dropbox has never dropped a single app I have uploaded or DL's (awesome app btw!!).
Well, Im on a college campus, there are usually 4 or 5 APs visible on the same channel with the same name at any given time. iPhones work fine on it, iPod touches work well on it...
The nook registered with the network easier than any of the above devices, except that it drops connections/can't download/download speed is terrible.
10equals2 said:
Well, Im on a college campus, there are usually 4 or 5 APs visible on the same channel with the same name at any given time. iPhones work fine on it, iPod touches work well on it...
The nook registered with the network easier than any of the above devices, except that it drops connections/can't download/download speed is terrible.
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Why not go to the same BN you bought the unit and test the wifi against the demo units? IF yours is considerable slower or the signal is weaker swap it as defective.
10equals2 said:
Ok guys, seriously. This device is amazing except for the fact that the wifi on it
absolutely sucks.
Is it hardware, and do I need to go exchange mine,
or is it software?
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No problems here, fast on wifi at home or 3g tether.
Novaglarion said:
No problems here, fast on wifi at home or 3g tether.
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What have you been using to tether?
I think the worst-case is that the nook does not like the wifi here. That no nook would work well with this network. Linux doen't like the network either, it will keep randomly disconnecting and reconnecting. It makes me worry that I have a device that will basically have no internet until I leave college.
I have no problems with wifi on this device.
Using 6 mbit AT&T DSL Home Service, over wifi wireless-g, WRT54-GL flashed to Tomato 1.25. Both devices in the next room, in the same spot, downloading a 28.3 MB file.
Nook Color: 1m 1s
Evo 4G: 1m 8s
So, defective devices notwithstanding, there is nothing inherently wrong with the Nook's wifi performance at all.
you guys suck. Mine is pretty much useless for webbrowsing, and IM BARELY works, dropbox just refuses to fully download anything.
Guess it's back to B&N tomorrow... I guess I'll unroot it tonight.
Also it was doing this before the root, so I know its not that .
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you guys suck. Mine is pretty much useless for webbrowsing, and IM BARELY works, dropbox just refuses to fully download anything.
Guess it's back to B&N tomorrow... I guess I'll unroot it tonight.
Also it was doing this before the root, so I know its not that .
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Just swap it and report back.. You'll be up to speed in no time
Yeah, I'm just worried that it doesn't like our wpa enterprise network and it'll never work on it...
Thanks guys, I guess I'll report back when I get a new one.
Damnit guys... Now I'm just confused...
Guess this thing is broken, and back to the store it goes...
I was having the same issues as yourself.....till i:
Switched my security from "WPA-PSK [TKIP]" to "WPA2-PSK [AES]"
Changing Channel on Router Solved: Once Slow Nook Wifi to Super Fast Nook Wifi
I just wanted to pass along the solution that worked for me:
I had a nook wifi and bought a new nook wifi/3g for my mom. Sometime after synching both of these, my nook wifi starting going in like super slow mo! So much, that it was almost useless to try to shop for new books. My favorite search is "0.00 <any topic>" to search for free books on a particular topic.
So, after googling for like ever, the fix I tried that worked was to change the channel on my router (linksys) from channel 6 to channel 11
Whallah, didn't have to reenter my credentials (I'm using wep security), everything just went from super slow mo to super fast again! Love my nook again!
yea im having issues too, but i dont think its with the nook color. i was using it stock rooted for a few days and it was pretty quick. recently put on froyo and now market is slow and so is browsing. going to try a higher class card and see if that helps. but ill have to look up other answers.