Bootloader unlock warranty - Moto X Q&A

In one of the forums here (I couldn't find it or would had posted there) people were wondering what phones you could unlock the bootloader on. Well I have a developers edition and my wife has a GMS unlocked with wood back, white front with purple accents, anyway our service provider is AT&T but because we have a business account AT&T wouldn't let her design hers (only could have the black or white one) if she used an upgrade. Well hers I checked on Motorola's website just to see if her bootloader could be unlocked and sure enough it can. Both of our phones we purchased Motorola's insurance and cancelled AT&T's. We called Motorola and verified that if we unlocked hers it would void. I'm glad I purchased the developers edition. When she ordered hers the wood was an extra $100 the very next day they went down to $25. Well the Motorola representative was going to just send a back and the removal tool but my wife told them her purple buttons were silver but the accent around the camera was purple (actually the volume and power was she just had the case on Lmao). She orders one with the wood back and sends the other back. I figure hey since they were going to send my wife the back and the tool I would call and try to just order a back. They will allow any Moto maker phone do it but a developer phone can not even if you send to them. Their reasoning was it makes it easier for the techs to distinguish between phones when they have to work on them..........I really hope their tech's ain't that stupid. Lmao
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needleyepoke said:
In one of the forums here (I couldn't find it or would had posted there) people were wondering what phones you could unlock the bootloader on. Well I have a developers edition and my wife has a GMS unlocked with wood back, white front with purple accents, anyway our service provider is AT&T but because we have a business account AT&T wouldn't let her design hers (only could have the black or white one) if she used an upgrade. Well hers I checked on Motorola's website just to see if her bootloader could be unlocked and sure enough it can. Both of our phones we purchased Motorola's insurance and cancelled AT&T's. We called Motorola and verified that if we unlocked hers it would void. I'm glad I purchased the developers edition. When she ordered hers the wood was an extra $100 the very next day they went down to $25. Well the Motorola representative was going to just send a back and the removal tool but my wife told them her purple buttons were silver but the accent around the camera was purple (actually the volume and power was she just had the case on Lmao). She orders one with the wood back and sends the other back. I figure hey since they were going to send my wife the back and the tool I would call and try to just order a back. They will allow any Moto maker phone do it but a developer phone can not even if you send to them. Their reasoning was it makes it easier for the techs to distinguish between phones when they have to work on them..........I really hope their tech's ain't that stupid. Lmao
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i jsut got the xt1053 also which root method did you use?

I went and unlocked it on Motorola site. Then installed recovery and installed SU in that order. I tried different roms but just use xposed apk
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Warranty return through Verizon or motorola?

I need to send my phone in to be repaired/replaced under warranty. Anyone know if there are any advantages/disadvantages to returning through a Verizon store versus sending to Motorola?
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Verizon eould be much faster and im pretty sure moto would make you send you phone in as Verizon would let you keep it until new phone arrives
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ive been having data issues + this weird 'clicking' sound during calls. i've had my bionic replaced twice(verizon did it as i have their "total equipment coverage").
anyway, i'm still having issues so they've now offered to replace the phone again + said i can buy a new phone at an upgrade price.
I second the Verizon notion
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Verizon return
I have not personally returned a phone, but all that I have read, everyone takes theirs back to Verizon.
Moto: repairs device
Verizon:replaces device
I have sent my phone to both companies..with motorola you have to pay for the repair, while with Verizon ive never had to pay for any damages on the cracked screen on the bionic I sent them..because I never told them, thus I didnt get charged and this happened about 2 months ago so it wouldve shown up by now
Just call Verizon and BS some technical problem and get a free replacement..been doing that since my D1
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Take it to the Verizon store you bought it at. They might be able swap you out there. You keep your SD card, battery, and back cover and they just switch the phone. I used to take my Droid Eris in and have it replaced.
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Just a follow-up in case anyone else faces this issue.
I did decide to use Verizon's return. I took it to the local Verizon store (and not the one I actually purchased the phone from as I was out of town when I bought it) and they had a new (well, I imagine actually a re-furbed) phone Fed-Ex'ed to my house. It apparently will come with a mailer to send the current phone back. So I get to use my current phone until the replacement arrives.
Motorola's warranty service would have required me to send the phone to motorola, and wait an estimated 5 - 7 days for them to repair and return it to me. I think using Verizon was much better as this group had suggested. Thanks!
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Just a follow-up in case anyone else faces this issue.
I did decide to use Verizon's return. I took it to the local Verizon store (and not the one I actually purchased the phone from as I was out of town when I bought it) and they had a new (well, I imagine actually a re-furbed) phone Fed-Ex'ed to my house. It apparently will come with a mailer to send the current phone back. So I get to use my current phone until the replacement arrives.
Motorola's warranty service would have required me to send the phone to motorola, and wait an estimated 5 - 7 days for them to repair and return it to me. I think using Verizon was much better as this group had suggested. Thanks!
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I believe that the Verizon stores stopped having replacement phones in stock so they now order it for you and will be there in 2-4 days. They used to swap you out in the store but my local store said they stopped carrying the extra stock.
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Potential Moto X Buyer

So I'm a Galaxy Nexus (Verizon) user and looking to get a new phone. I'm looking at getting a Moto X and I have a few questions about it. Mainly in regards to rooting and getting cyanogenmod up and running on it. I don't mind using its stock rom as it seems rather close to stock android, but I'm curious as to how hard is it to root a Moto X on Verizon and getting cyanogenmod on it and keep the special features like the shake to unlock the camera and the voice commands. Also how is the battery on the device (I normally stick to 3G and maybe web surf a bit and look at my RSS feeds through the day not a lot of really data intense apps.) Thanks.
I just got my Moto X a few days ago and found that I enjoyed the experience so much on it that I decided not to root. I have been rooting my phones for a few years and finally found a stock experience that I enjoy.
I don't see a reason why you would want to lose the amazing features that Moto X offers by switching to CM.
You can root the phone (there are guides around the forums for this) and add Xposed modules to modify some parts of the phone, however, any OTA updates will cause some headaches. With 4.4 around the corner for the Moto X I am going to hold off rooting for a while and enjoy what Motorola gave to us.
i.Design said:
I just got my Moto X a few days ago and found that I enjoyed the experience so much on it that I decided not to root. I have been rooting my phones for a few years and finally found a stock experience that I enjoy.
I don't see a reason why you would want to lose the amazing features that Moto X offers by switching to CM.
You can root the phone (there are guides around the forums for this) and add Xposed modules to modify some parts of the phone, however, any OTA updates will cause some headaches. With 4.4 around the corner for the Moto X I am going to hold off rooting for a while and enjoy what Motorola gave to us.
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I'm also a long time rooter/CM kinda guy, galaxy nexus, GS3 etc etc, and I can honestly say that the only reason I would root this thing would be to change the battery icon (aaagh I hate it so much)
But this phone is so so good out of the box, it's just not worth wasting effort trying...although it would be nice to drop a new kernel on it.
Best phone I've had so far.
grifforama said:
I'm also a long time rooter/CM kinda guy, galaxy nexus, GS3 etc etc, and I can honestly say that the only reason I would root this thing would be to change the battery icon (aaagh I hate it so much)
But this phone is so so good out of the box, it's just not worth wasting effort trying...although it would be nice to drop a new kernel on it.
Best phone I've had so far.
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I will eventually root this thing... someday. I would also like a new kernel and I want to have Greenify back and some small customization options, but for now I am going to enjoy not troubleshooting some sort of issue that comes as a side effect of rooting.
I I just switched to the Moto X from the gnex on Sprint. I am very happy with my decision. The battery life is an enormous improvement over the gnex. I have always rooted my devices and installed custom roms, but I am yet to do so on the Moto X. It has a great stock set up. I will likely root once 4.4 is avaliable, but only to get rid of the sprint crap.
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That's great to hear about the battery and stock ROM. Has anyone used the Motomaker site yet (Mainly this goes out to AT&T owners). I'd like to get mine through that when it opens up for most carriers on the 11th. But I'm curious exactly how does the process goes with activation and such. And I just noticed Verizon only offers the 16gig model is there anyway to get a 32gig model with big red.
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That's great to hear about the battery and stock ROM. Has anyone used the Motomaker site yet (Mainly this goes out to AT&T owners). I'd like to get mine through that when it opens up for most carriers on the 11th. But I'm curious exactly how does the process goes with activation and such. And I just noticed Verizon only offers the 16gig model is there anyway to get a 32gig model with big red.
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Moto Maker allows an option for 32gb, so you could wait for that on Verizon, or the Developer Edition is 32gb but you have to pay $549 for it.
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That's great to hear about the battery and stock ROM. Has anyone used the Motomaker site yet (Mainly this goes out to AT&T owners). I'd like to get mine through that when it opens up for most carriers on the 11th. But I'm curious exactly how does the process goes with activation and such. And I just noticed Verizon only offers the 16gig model is there anyway to get a 32gig model with big red.
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We're hoping when Verizon gets Moto maker access 32gb will be an option. Right now you can get a 32gb developer version but you'll have to pay full price, ($550) and is only available in a weird white /black combo.
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Vergil117 said:
That's great to hear about the battery and stock ROM. Has anyone used the Motomaker site yet (Mainly this goes out to AT&T owners). I'd like to get mine through that when it opens up for most carriers on the 11th. But I'm curious exactly how does the process goes with activation and such. And I just noticed Verizon only offers the 16gig model is there anyway to get a 32gig model with big red.
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Moto maker is a breeze... You do everything through the website, new line, upgrade or off contact. Much easier than I had anticipated.
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Came from a galaxy "nexus" to the X and love it. I finally did root it and have played with Xposed a bit, and I will probably never flash a rom again. Xposed let's me change all of the things that I cared about on AOKP like having a torch toggle in QS, and statusbar/navbar transparency. To be honest, if I didn't want to enable native tether privileges (still unlimited here), I wouldn't be rooted.
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I am a prior nexus owner and I spent month with the HTC one and then took it back because it was garbage. I have had my x for only a couple of days and I mist say I am EXTREMELY impressed. If you loved your gnex you will love this phone!
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swegin said:
I am a prior nexus owner and I spent month with the HTC one and then took it back because it was garbage. I have had my x for only a couple of days and I mist say I am EXTREMELY impressed. If you loved your gnex you will love this phone!
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HTC One was garbage? Wow.
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barondebxl said:
HTC One was garbage? Wow.
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I LOVE HTC but I had the one for five weeks and at least 1 out of 4 calls were dropped randomly or my cheek would hang up the call. I loved the look of the one and thought sense 5 was the best sense yet. However due to the dropped calls the phone just did not work for me.
I have talked to others that returned the phone for the same reason
I wouldn't use the HTC one either. The sense UI is rather sluggish (I've used in the past before - HTC incredible and I've used the demo of the HTC one they had the verizon store and it was the same slowness), Not at all a fan of beats by dre/monster cables. And the button layout is kinda eh. Used to having 4 icons at the bottom with the main menu button being near the center.
Vergil117 said:
....but I'm curious as to how hard is it to root a Moto X on Verizon and getting cyanogenmod on it and keep the special features....
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Question for the group... Will rooting alone allow you to install CM? Is CM available to be flashed via safestrap?
I ask because -> http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...cyanogenmod-10-2-experimental-nightly-builds/ and -> http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1060_Info seem to indicate its for Unlocked bootloader or Developer Edition. And since there is no way yet to unlock the non-Dev Edition's boot loader, it further appears its really for Dev Ed only. And all the roms that aren't a leak from Moto in the Developer sections here also state you need a Developer Edition X or Unlocked boot loader.
Vergil117, as far as rooting, JCASE has released ways to root the initial shipping rom version, and the OTA update for the camera fix. So that is easy enough. I have rooted mine, just to tether (I still have unlimited). As with other devices, if you don't have an unlocked boot loader, rooting after new ROM updates are pushed is uncertain.
Like most have posted, I think the X in its stock form is very nice, and I don't find a need to flash a alternate ROM. If you flash to CM, you'll loose the Moto customization like touch-less control, shake for camera, etc.
So I ordered a moto X through the Motomaker software on monday night. It still says est delivery by the 15 but it also says it hasn't shipped. Kinda worried.
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So I ordered a moto X through the Motomaker software on monday night. It still says est delivery by the 15 but it also says it hasn't shipped. Kinda worried.
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Same, I got to step 2 on Tuesday morning and that's been it so far. I'm hopeful we'll get our shipping notifications soon so we can get our phones before the weekend. But I know Moto probably got slammed with a bunch of orders on Monday so some of us may have to wait till next week...
Update to the shipping post. I got the fedex info and it should be here Friday yay.
Motorola's update system is way behind. When I ordered mine, over a month ago, It didn't say shipped until the morning it arrived and I didn't get a tracking number until an hour or so after I had already received the device.
But it arrived the day they said it would... I'd rather the info be late instead of the phone
Moto X rocking 4.4
Oh I know the feeling, Fedex was being lazy yesterday with my order. I live in a gated apartment building, the main lobby is like right next to the door to the building. I honestly think they saw the door and said oh no one here and went away. So I had to call them and tell them to drop it off at a fedex store.

[Q] Moto X or no

I am looking to get a no contract Moto X. They say the model is XT1053. I don't want the Dev version because I like the Moto software that comes on the no Dev version. Is the Dev version just pure Android?
I am coming from the AT&T Galaxy S4 not rooted but sim unlocked.
I know the Moto X is a nice phone but almost having a hard time to commit to the purchase. I will be selling the Galaxy S4 to recoup the money but what would you do?
shamelin73 said:
I am looking to get a no contract Moto X. They say the model is XT1053. I don't want the Dev version because I like the Moto software that comes on the no Dev version. Is the Dev version just pure Android?
I am coming from the AT&T Galaxy S4 not rooted but sim unlocked.
I know the Moto X is a nice phone but almost having a hard time to commit to the purchase. I will be selling the Galaxy S4 to recoup the money but what would you do?
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Dev version and regular version are identical. The only difference is you don't lose your warranty when you unlock.
The Moto X is the best phone I've ever used, bar none. If you have read reviews and think you'll like it, buy it.
xd1936 said:
Dev version and regular version are identical. The only difference is you don't lose your warranty when you unlock.
The Moto X is the best phone I've ever used, bar none. If you have read reviews and think you'll like it, buy it.
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So the Dev version has the Moto Active display notifications? So it would be worth going that route well it is 324 too. Just dont know if I like the black front and white back.
shamelin73 said:
So the Dev version has the Moto Active display notifications? So it would be worth going that route well it is 324 too. Just dont know if I like the black front and white back.
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Yes. The Dev version and regular version are identical hardware and software.
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If you aren't interested in Unlocking the bootloader, I'd say get the moto maker version. Its a fantastic phone and you'll no doubt enjoy it regardless of which one you buy.
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So the Dev version has the Moto Active display notifications? So it would be worth going that route well it is 324 too. Just dont know if I like the black front and white back.
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The Dev Edition XT1053, and the GSM Unlocked (comes with T-Mobile SIM) XT1053 and GSM Unlocked (comes with Net10 Sim) XT1053 use the same rom, radio, baseband, etc. They have the same software pre-installed, the same features, etc.
The Dev Edition comes only as Black Front, woven white back that says Dev Edition, silver accents (buttons and camera ring), 32gig, and unlocking the bootloader does NOT void the warranty.
The GSM Unlocked (with T-Mo or Net10 sim) is basically the same, except available as 16, 32 or 64gig, fully customizable front/back/accents, and unlocking its bootloader DOES void the warranty.
So if having the warranty is more important than looks, go with the Dev Edition and put a case on it. If looks or 64gig are more important than warranty, go Moto Maker.
I have a VZW developer edition. I purchased a black back cover for it. The covers are pretty easy to replace.
I wanted an unlocked bootloader so I would have the option of flashing mods or ROMs in the future. So far I'm satisfied with the stock software, but there may be a point in time I want something different.
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I have a VZW developer edition. I purchased a black back cover for it. The covers are pretty easy to replace.
I wanted an unlocked bootloader so I would have the option of flashing mods or ROMs in the future. So far I'm satisfied with the stock software, but there may be a point in time I want something different.
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Do you still have the white back?
Yep. Keeping it in case I decide to sell or change my mind down the road.
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Yep. Keeping it in case I decide to sell or change my mind down the road.
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Well if you decide to sell, let me know. I don't have a verizon moto x, but I like the woven white back better.
TY all for the help I will get the Moto Maker no contract one as the woven black is showing available again.
ohiomoto said:
I have a VZW developer edition. I purchased a black back cover for it. The covers are pretty easy to replace.
I wanted an unlocked bootloader so I would have the option of flashing mods or ROMs in the future. So far I'm satisfied with the stock software, but there may be a point in time I want something different.
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Nice. Where'd you get a black back plate? I'd like to change that also. Love having dev edition. Got it the day it launched but not a fan of the white back.
There is a thread somewhere in this forum with links to purchase replacement back plates. I think mine came from china.
Well I pulled the trigger on the Developer edition. I know the new ones are just around the corner but couldn't pass up the deal they have now.
I am coming from the AT&T Galaxy S4. Has been a nice phone but to bloated and locked down.
Can't wait.
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shamelin73 said:
Well I pulled the trigger on the Developer edition. I know the new ones are just around the corner but couldn't pass up the deal they have now.
I am coming from the AT&T Galaxy S4. Has been a nice phone but to bloated and locked down.
Can't wait.
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Woo hoo! Welcome to the club! Let us know if you have any questions.
I say no. The screen brightness/color accuracy is not good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fyi-dim-screen-moto-white-glove-t2753559
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I say no. The screen brightness/color accuracy is not good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fyi-dim-screen-moto-white-glove-t2753559
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Nobody in this forum seems to have experienced what you did tho.
Doesn't mean all moto x's have that issue. Mine sure doesn't. ?
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Nobody in this forum seems to have experienced what you did tho.
Doesn't mean all moto x's have that issue. Mine sure doesn't. ?
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I ended up with a "best example" of any X. The screen just not up to other phones for outdoor readability!
With no contract and being able to customize the look to meet your color needs, notifications and touch less control, Motorola Assist how can you not get one.
$299.99 for 16GB
$324.99 for 32GB
These people that ***** about this and that spend endless time complaining about everything!
No phone is perfect but its a good phone had it since roll out.
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I say no. The screen brightness/color accuracy is not good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fyi-dim-screen-moto-white-glove-t2753559
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I am not a fan of X's display coming from an S4, but which AMOLED panel has good colour accuracy? They all are extremely over saturated, S4 was, S5 is (a completely different story with Cinema preset though), and X is too. Yes I will agree that it's more saturated than S4's display, but still it's not that bad that I will have to complain about it. It's basically the same display which was used in Note 2 right?

Are new 2013 X's shipping with 4.4.4?

Now that there's a bootloader unlock, I'm thinking about using that Motorola Care protection plan I bought to get a new X since mine is all beat up now. If they are known to be shipping with 4.4.4 then I won't do it since the unlock doesn't work with 4.4.4. Don't want to take any chances though... has anybody JUST gotten a brand new X? What version was on it?
The tool's website does say it will work with SOME devices on 4.4.4, anybody know what criteria those devices have to meet?
Don't know whether or not they're shipping with 4.4.
Here's a post I found on the exploit, credit to the OP of course
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55684886
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Don't know whether or not they're shipping with 4.4.
Here's a post I found on the exploit, credit to the OP of course
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55684886
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Can't believe I missed that. Thanks for digging it up for me.
It's probably gonna be a crap shoot.... Who knows what you'll get. ?
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It's probably gonna be a crap shoot.... Who knows what you'll get. ?
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Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out if it's worth the risk. Gonna give Motorola a call and see if their customer service has any clue.
Edit: The guy said it ships with 4.4.3. If they do advanced replacements, I'll just order the new one and if it's 4.4.4 I'll send it back to them. On hold now waiting to find out.
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Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out if it's worth the risk. Gonna give Motorola a call and see if their customer service has any clue.
Edit: The guy said it ships with 4.4.3. If they do advanced replacements, I'll just order the new one and if it's 4.4.4 I'll send it back to them. On hold now waiting to find out.
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Good luck! Hopefully you get the 4.4.3!
My M8 got rare screen lift... Since I don't see this issue talked about much. I'm hoping they actually fix mine and don't replace it.... Or I'll have to buy Sunshine again for it. Lol
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Good luck! Hopefully you get the 4.4.3!
My M8 got rare screen lift... Since I don't see this issue talked about much. I'm hoping they actually fix mine and don't replace it.... Or I'll have to buy Sunshine again for it. Lol
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Thanks! Of course the call didn't go smoothly, for some reason their system wouldn't let them process the claim as a MotoCare claim, and kept telling them I needed to pay $100 for repair. They had to escalate the claim and supposedly someone is going to call me back on Monday. Now I just gotta figure out what colors I'm gonna do. My current one is all black with the woven back, I'm thinking the new one is going to be black front, woven white or chalk back, and blue accents.
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Thanks! Of course the call didn't go smoothly, for some reason their system wouldn't let them process the claim as a MotoCare claim, and kept telling them I needed to pay $100 for repair. They had to escalate the claim and supposedly someone is going to call me back on Monday. Now I just gotta figure out what colors I'm gonna do. My current one is all black with the woven back, I'm thinking the new one is going to be black front, woven white or chalk back, and blue accents.
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They said they weren't going to cover my M8 screen lift, til I got upset. Lol. I have extended warranty, for 49 they fix anything, even water and drops... But why should I pay for anything not my fault.
Watch the white woven back, there's stories here and my wife's has like 5 cracks now on the sides.
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They said they weren't going to cover my M8 screen lift, til I got upset. Lol. I have extended warranty, for 49 they fix anything, even water and drops... But why should I pay for anything not my fault.
Watch the white woven back, there's stories here and my wife's has like 5 cracks now on the sides.
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They'll cover mine, it was just some glitch in the system or an incompetent customer service rep. I have incidental coverage on it so I'm sure on Monday when they call me back everything will be straightened out.
Yeah now I remember reading about the cracks with the white backs... Thanks for the heads up. I'll probably go with chalk then, I don't even like the way the woven white feels, just like the look of it. But the chalk looks great with the black and blue combo too so whatever.
You think they'll let me send it back without a fuss if it comes with 4.4.4?
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They'll cover mine, it was just some glitch in the system or an incompetent customer service rep. I have incidental coverage on it so I'm sure on Monday when they call me back everything will be straightened out.
Yeah now I remember reading about the cracks with the white backs... Thanks for the heads up. I'll probably go with chalk then, I don't even like the way the woven white feels, just like the look of it. But the chalk looks great with the black and blue combo too so whatever.
You think they'll let me send it back without a fuss if it comes with 4.4.4?
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Not sure. I've read others have. Though I wouldn't blame them for saying no. LOL
They don't care about us tinkerers...and why anyone doesn't want 4.4.4. Worth trying tho.

Verizon Z3 - LTE Bands?

Hello,
I am looking to purchase a Verizon Z3 (not the Play version that's available on amazon) and I was wondering if anyone knew which LTE bands are available? I will be using AT&T and I need Band 4 and Band 17 in my area. Can anyone confirm that the Verizon version of the Z3 has these? Thanks in advance.
MrBaltazar said:
Hello,
I am looking to purchase a Verizon Z3 (not the Play version that's available on amazon) and I was wondering if anyone knew which LTE bands are available? I will be using AT&T and I need Band 4 and Band 17 in my area. Can anyone confirm that the Verizon version of the Z3 has these? Thanks in advance.
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I am not sure of the answer to your actual question, but wanted to point out that based on the past moto devices and Verizon, that you'll be guaranteeing yourself a device who's bootloader you will never be able to unlock.
Just wanted to mention that, not sure if it matters to you. And possibly you're aware of this already too.
Hi,
you´ll find the specs here.
I think the phone will be locked to verizon inside the US and is only "Internationally unlocked".
you can use it outside the US with any carrier.
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Hi,
you´ll find the specs here.
I think the phone will be locked to verizon inside the US and is only "Internationally unlocked".
you can use it outside the US with any carrier.
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Sam, are you sure, that this phone can be also used in Europe / Germany? I thought about getting it via eBay, but I have not yet found any reliable source for really knowing that it will be completely unlocked for all German carriers.
So I am still looking for the Chinese Z3 version with even 6GB RAM. So I would have the advantage to get the same specs as those of my Z2 Force, but with the profit of the amazing Z3 screen (I really dislike the Z2 Force's "plastic" screen). But so far, I have not found any source to order the Chinese Z3 version. Maybe, anybody else?
Buy from Motorola directly, unlocked for global use.
Don't install sim untill you unlock bootloader & Root is done. If the bands you are interested in using are not engaged then use qcom tool software to turn them on.
Maheshwara said:
Sam, are you sure, that this phone can be also used in Europe / Germany? I thought about getting it via eBay, but I have not yet found any reliable source for really knowing that it will be completely unlocked for all German carriers.
So I am still looking for the Chinese Z3 version with even 6GB RAM. So I would have the advantage to get the same specs as those of my Z2 Force, but with the profit of the amazing Z3 screen (I really dislike the Z2 Force's "plastic" screen). But so far, I have not found any source to order the Chinese Z3 version. Maybe, anybody else?
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I can tell you in 2 weeks, i've bought one today.
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Maheshwara said:
Sam, are you sure, that this phone can be also used in Europe / Germany? I thought about getting it via eBay, but I have not yet found any reliable source for really knowing that it will be completely unlocked for all German carriers.
So I am still looking for the Chinese Z3 version with even 6GB RAM. So I would have the advantage to get the same specs as those of my Z2 Force, but with the profit of the amazing Z3 screen (I really dislike the Z2 Force's "plastic" screen). But so far, I have not found any source to order the Chinese Z3 version. Maybe, anybody else?
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As an FYI, the Moto Z3 IS Locked to Verizon ONLY in the US, Bootloader is also LOCKED and I HATE THE PHONE! It 's a $480.00 BILLBOARD! Nothing but Ads, Ads, Ads! You can't unlock the booltoader (I tried), so you can't root it, no root no adblock. :crying: So if you don't mind spending $500 and having CONSTANT, FULL SCREEN, OBTRUSIVE ADS popup while your viewing something, then this is the phone for you!!
BTW, the screen is also plastic, so be certain to get yourself a Tempered Glass Screen protector as soon as you get the phone, because the screen scratches very easily!
I'll be selling mine on eBay very soon!
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Mental1 said:
Buy from Motorola directly, unlocked for global use.
Don't install sim untill you unlock bootloader & Root is done. If the bands you are interested in using are not engaged then use qcom tool software to turn them on.
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FYI, can't unlock the bootloader, I tried to before I installed the sim, no go. the electronic serial number generated as the bootloader unlock code is set to VZW and CAN NOT BE UNLOCKED!:crying: I bought mine from Moto directly and it was shipped from China.
If you bought it directly from Motorola and it was shipped from China, so it's the 6GB RAM Version with ZUI Firmware?
wanb1i said:
As an FYI, the Moto Z3 IS Locked to Verizon ONLY in the US, Bootloader is also LOCKED and I HATE THE PHONE! It 's a $480.00 BILLBOARD! Nothing but Ads, Ads, Ads! You can't unlock the booltoader (I tried), so you can't root it, no root no adblock. :crying: So if you don't mind spending $500 and having CONSTANT, FULL SCREEN, OBTRUSIVE ADS popup while your viewing something, then this is the phone for you!!
BTW, the screen is also plastic, so be certain to get yourself a Tempered Glass Screen protector as soon as you get the phone, because the screen scratches very easily!
I'll be selling mine on eBay very soon!
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FYI, can't unlock the bootloader, I tried to before I installed the sim, no go. the electronic serial number generated as the bootloader unlock code is set to VZW and CAN NOT BE UNLOCKED!:crying: I bought mine from Moto directly and it was shipped from China.
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Well that sucks for you. I purchased my z3 play direct from Moto on a presale offer and it was not shipped from China. I used it for about 3 weeks before cracking the top 2 corners of the display from a "pop out of pocket, hit the blacktop and slid down my driveway" accident. Thanks to Moto's added warranty protection, they replaced it with a brand new in the box z3 play. So, before installing my Verizon sim, I setup the phone and used it on wifi for 2 days, also I never signed into Google, and made sure everything worked. This time being as F'n busy with my job and not having the time to modify it, I used the OCR service, paid the $$ and within a hour, unlocked bootloader and rooted. Once again, I used it for a day before finally installing my sim. I love the phone now and ripped through this ***** removing/adding apps and features to customize/personalize it to my liking. I have not installed the twrp recovery yet. That is next but as of now, not a single issue with anything. OCR, left me every file that was used for the unlock bootloader & Rooting process. If it helps anybody, I can upload what ever file anyone may need.
Sent using my Awesome ROOTED Moto Z3 Play
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If you bought it directly from Motorola and it was shipped from China, so it's the 6GB RAM Version with ZUI Firmware?
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No, 4gb ram/64gb storage, Verizon Bloatware.
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Mental1 said:
Well that sucks for you. I purchased my z3 play direct from Moto on a presale offer and it was not shipped from China. I used it for about 3 weeks before cracking the top 2 corners of the display from a "pop out of pocket, hit the blacktop and slid down my driveway" accident. Thanks to Moto's added warranty protection, they replaced it with a brand new in the box z3 play. So, before installing my Verizon sim, I setup the phone and used it on wifi for 2 days, also I never signed into Google, and made sure everything worked. This time being as F'n busy with my job and not having the time to modify it, I used the OCR service, paid the $$ and within a hour, unlocked bootloader and rooted. Once again, I used it for a day before finally installing my sim. I love the phone now and ripped through this ***** removing/adding apps and features to customize/personalize it to my liking. I have not installed the twrp recovery yet. That is next but as of now, not a single issue with anything. OCR, left me every file that was used for the unlock bootloader & Rooting process. If it helps anybody, I can upload what ever file anyone may need.
Sent using my Awesome ROOTED Moto Z3 Play
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Yep, that's because it's a Z3 "PLAY", not a Z3 which is "LOCKED" to Verizon from the factory. :crying: Mine's on eBay if anyone want's to buy it.
Verizon bloatware is easily disabled. I've had no trouble with ads. Anyone who buys a Verizon phone should know they're usually not bootloader unlockable if you're sophisticated enough to consider unlocking it. My phone's working great so ymmv.
Mines from Verizon but it's unlocked out of the box. Yes the bootloader is locked, but I can use the phone with T-Mobile etc...
wanb1i said:
As an FYI, the Moto Z3 IS Locked to Verizon ONLY in the US, Bootloader is also LOCKED and I HATE THE PHONE! It 's a $480.00 BILLBOARD! Nothing but Ads, Ads, Ads! You can't unlock the booltoader (I tried), so you can't root it, no root no adblock. :crying: So if you don't mind spending $500 and having CONSTANT, FULL SCREEN, OBTRUSIVE ADS popup while your viewing something, then this is the phone for you!!
BTW, the screen is also plastic, so be certain to get yourself a Tempered Glass Screen protector as soon as you get the phone, because the screen scratches very easily!
I'll be selling mine on eBay very soon!
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FYI, can't unlock the bootloader, I tried to before I installed the sim, no go. the electronic serial number generated as the bootloader unlock code is set to VZW and CAN NOT BE UNLOCKED!:crying: I bought mine from Moto directly and it was shipped from China.
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Umm, not sure where you're getting this all from?
I bought a Z3 from the Verizon store at $480 it is a steal for this caliber of phone. It is NOT LOCKED, I was able to use it on AT&T and T-Mobile with no issue. Only thing that happens is when you reboot the phone it says "Sim card not from Verizon". Just swipe on the notification and it disappears and does not come back unless you reboot. Any of the Verizon apps are easily disabled and I do not have any ads of any sort, a pretty close to pure android experience. If you have ads, maybe you have a Z3 play Amazon version? not sure if they even made one for z3. I'm so confused on where you're getting ads from?
Also the screen is definitely glass...also don't know where you're getting this from. I also dropped my phone, no cracks, but display has a big blue spot on it. Was told that if there is no crack, it will be fixed for free. Even if they do find that there is physical damage, they will replace it for $150, which I think is more than reasonable. Just sent it off on the weekend so I'll find out soon. I wish there was a z3 force, would gladly deal with the plastic screen in order not to have to worry about it cracking. My Droid Turbo 2 was wonderful because of that.
Overall the z3 has been a great phone, the side fingerprint reader is awesome too. Was a bit worried about it, but got used to it pretty quick. Now that I sent mine in, I'm having to use my old Z droid, and realizing how a front fingerprint reader is not as convenient as a side one.
So I'm very curious, where did you find a Z3, that is locked, with ads and with a plastic screen? you sure you have a z3?
I have owned Verizon only version phones, from the Droid Turbo, Droid Turbo 2 and now the Z3, all of them have been able to work on any network as long as the bands match up, and I've been able to use them in many countries and in the US with no issue.
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So I'm very curious, where did you find a Z3, that is locked, with ads and with a plastic screen? you sure you have a z3?.
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In the event you are unaware, there are malicious apps capable of displaying apps on a user's device. Being that Amazon only offers the Z3 Play, which is impossible to confuse with a VZ branded device, this leads credibility to this being the problem.
Reviewers seem to like the screen, so pethaps they have a different Moto phone altogether? Who knows. VZ carries other Moto devices.
Mental1 said:
Well that sucks for you. I purchased my z3 play direct from Moto on a presale offer and it was not shipped from China. I used it for about 3 weeks before cracking the top 2 corners of the display from a "pop out of pocket, hit the blacktop and slid down my driveway" accident. Thanks to Moto's added warranty protection, they replaced it with a brand new in the box z3 play. So, before installing my Verizon sim, I setup the phone and used it on wifi for 2 days, also I never signed into Google, and made sure everything worked. This time being as F'n busy with my job and not having the time to modify it, I used the OCR service, paid the $$ and within a hour, unlocked bootloader and rooted. Once again, I used it for a day before finally installing my sim. I love the phone now and ripped through this ***** removing/adding apps and features to customize/personalize it to my liking. I have not installed the twrp recovery yet. That is next but as of now, not a single issue with anything. OCR, left me every file that was used for the unlock bootloader & Rooting process. If it helps anybody, I can upload what ever file anyone may need.
Sent using my Awesome ROOTED Moto Z3 Play
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I need this info!!!!! Where did you get it done? I don't mind having to pay $$ for it... As long as it's not $$$$$$$$$$ lol
Lord_Worm said:
I need this info!!!!! Where did you get it done? I don't mind having to pay $$ for it... As long as it's not $$$$$$$$$$ lol
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One Click Root took care of everything from new "out of box" to Unlocked BL to Root all for less then 2 joints.
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One Click Root took care of everything from new "out of box" to Unlocked BL to Root all for less then 2 joints.
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Thanks for the info. I'll look into it. I'm wondering where to find a little guiding on this: I posted elsewhere in the forum, but I spoke directly with a Motorola rep and they confirmed I was shipped a factory firmware test model. I'm not even sure what that means exactly. I know that I have modified several system files and actually had them stick, and now I'm wondering if I can flash a different firmware, and be on a different software channel altogether without bricking my device. My ultimate goal is bootloader unlock and root, but alas, every thing I read online says otherwise. I still would like to humor the thought of a possibility @ unlocking my bootloader without any crazy bootstomp vulnerability exploit
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One Click Root took care of everything from new "out of box" to Unlocked BL to Root all for less then 2 joints.
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Yeah, I find it terribly odd that it says that the Moto Z3 Play isn't a supported device. Are you sure you're telling the truth over there? Sounds almost gimmicky to me. No offense sir, but I literally just went through the process with them.
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Thanks for the info. I'll look into it. I'm wondering where to find a little guiding on this: I posted elsewhere in the forum, but I spoke directly with a Motorola rep and they confirmed I was shipped a factory firmware test model. I'm not even sure what that means exactly. I know that I have modified several system files and actually had them stick, and now I'm wondering if I can flash a different firmware, and be on a different software channel altogether without bricking my device. My ultimate goal is bootloader unlock and root, but alas, every thing I read online says otherwise. I still would like to humor the thought of a possibility @ unlocking my bootloader without any crazy bootstomp vulnerability exploit
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Normally I do all my devices, cells, tabs and tv but I've been so busy I couldn't do any major research before attempting mental melt down. The one thing I can say is while watching it be done, they went directly through Moto site for the unlocking of the BL. After that the process from there was your standard adb & fb commands. Now they did download a "Official Firmware" file, flashed it, used Magisk, reflashed again and done. I read the same good & bad crap online as you and basically once you get it done , redo it your own way. The hard part is done, lol. It has been running great since done months ago. I made a change or two since then and still no issues. If I get a chance, I'll post the zip file they used and firmware pkg if it helps you.
Mental1 said:
Normally I do all my devices, cells, tabs and tv but I've been so busy I couldn't do any major research before attempting mental melt down. The one thing I can say is while watching it be done, they went directly through Moto site for the unlocking of the BL. After that the process from there was your standard adb & fb commands. Now they did download a "Official Firmware" file, flashed it, used Magisk, reflashed again and done. I read the same good & bad crap online as you and basically once you get it done , redo it your own way. The hard part is done, lol. It has been running great since done months ago. I made a change or two since then and still no issues. If I get a chance, I'll post the zip file they used and firmware pkg if it helps you.
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I'll take a picture of the boot up screens showing the unlocked bootloader and post them.

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