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Potential Moto X Buyer

So I'm a Galaxy Nexus (Verizon) user and looking to get a new phone. I'm looking at getting a Moto X and I have a few questions about it. Mainly in regards to rooting and getting cyanogenmod up and running on it. I don't mind using its stock rom as it seems rather close to stock android, but I'm curious as to how hard is it to root a Moto X on Verizon and getting cyanogenmod on it and keep the special features like the shake to unlock the camera and the voice commands. Also how is the battery on the device (I normally stick to 3G and maybe web surf a bit and look at my RSS feeds through the day not a lot of really data intense apps.) Thanks.

I just got my Moto X a few days ago and found that I enjoyed the experience so much on it that I decided not to root. I have been rooting my phones for a few years and finally found a stock experience that I enjoy.
I don't see a reason why you would want to lose the amazing features that Moto X offers by switching to CM.
You can root the phone (there are guides around the forums for this) and add Xposed modules to modify some parts of the phone, however, any OTA updates will cause some headaches. With 4.4 around the corner for the Moto X I am going to hold off rooting for a while and enjoy what Motorola gave to us.

i.Design said:
I just got my Moto X a few days ago and found that I enjoyed the experience so much on it that I decided not to root. I have been rooting my phones for a few years and finally found a stock experience that I enjoy.
I don't see a reason why you would want to lose the amazing features that Moto X offers by switching to CM.
You can root the phone (there are guides around the forums for this) and add Xposed modules to modify some parts of the phone, however, any OTA updates will cause some headaches. With 4.4 around the corner for the Moto X I am going to hold off rooting for a while and enjoy what Motorola gave to us.
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I'm also a long time rooter/CM kinda guy, galaxy nexus, GS3 etc etc, and I can honestly say that the only reason I would root this thing would be to change the battery icon (aaagh I hate it so much)
But this phone is so so good out of the box, it's just not worth wasting effort trying...although it would be nice to drop a new kernel on it.
Best phone I've had so far.

grifforama said:
I'm also a long time rooter/CM kinda guy, galaxy nexus, GS3 etc etc, and I can honestly say that the only reason I would root this thing would be to change the battery icon (aaagh I hate it so much)
But this phone is so so good out of the box, it's just not worth wasting effort trying...although it would be nice to drop a new kernel on it.
Best phone I've had so far.
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I will eventually root this thing... someday. I would also like a new kernel and I want to have Greenify back and some small customization options, but for now I am going to enjoy not troubleshooting some sort of issue that comes as a side effect of rooting.

I I just switched to the Moto X from the gnex on Sprint. I am very happy with my decision. The battery life is an enormous improvement over the gnex. I have always rooted my devices and installed custom roms, but I am yet to do so on the Moto X. It has a great stock set up. I will likely root once 4.4 is avaliable, but only to get rid of the sprint crap.
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That's great to hear about the battery and stock ROM. Has anyone used the Motomaker site yet (Mainly this goes out to AT&T owners). I'd like to get mine through that when it opens up for most carriers on the 11th. But I'm curious exactly how does the process goes with activation and such. And I just noticed Verizon only offers the 16gig model is there anyway to get a 32gig model with big red.

Vergil117 said:
That's great to hear about the battery and stock ROM. Has anyone used the Motomaker site yet (Mainly this goes out to AT&T owners). I'd like to get mine through that when it opens up for most carriers on the 11th. But I'm curious exactly how does the process goes with activation and such. And I just noticed Verizon only offers the 16gig model is there anyway to get a 32gig model with big red.
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Moto Maker allows an option for 32gb, so you could wait for that on Verizon, or the Developer Edition is 32gb but you have to pay $549 for it.

Vergil117 said:
That's great to hear about the battery and stock ROM. Has anyone used the Motomaker site yet (Mainly this goes out to AT&T owners). I'd like to get mine through that when it opens up for most carriers on the 11th. But I'm curious exactly how does the process goes with activation and such. And I just noticed Verizon only offers the 16gig model is there anyway to get a 32gig model with big red.
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We're hoping when Verizon gets Moto maker access 32gb will be an option. Right now you can get a 32gb developer version but you'll have to pay full price, ($550) and is only available in a weird white /black combo.
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Vergil117 said:
That's great to hear about the battery and stock ROM. Has anyone used the Motomaker site yet (Mainly this goes out to AT&T owners). I'd like to get mine through that when it opens up for most carriers on the 11th. But I'm curious exactly how does the process goes with activation and such. And I just noticed Verizon only offers the 16gig model is there anyway to get a 32gig model with big red.
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Moto maker is a breeze... You do everything through the website, new line, upgrade or off contact. Much easier than I had anticipated.
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Came from a galaxy "nexus" to the X and love it. I finally did root it and have played with Xposed a bit, and I will probably never flash a rom again. Xposed let's me change all of the things that I cared about on AOKP like having a torch toggle in QS, and statusbar/navbar transparency. To be honest, if I didn't want to enable native tether privileges (still unlimited here), I wouldn't be rooted.
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I am a prior nexus owner and I spent month with the HTC one and then took it back because it was garbage. I have had my x for only a couple of days and I mist say I am EXTREMELY impressed. If you loved your gnex you will love this phone!
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swegin said:
I am a prior nexus owner and I spent month with the HTC one and then took it back because it was garbage. I have had my x for only a couple of days and I mist say I am EXTREMELY impressed. If you loved your gnex you will love this phone!
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HTC One was garbage? Wow.
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barondebxl said:
HTC One was garbage? Wow.
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I LOVE HTC but I had the one for five weeks and at least 1 out of 4 calls were dropped randomly or my cheek would hang up the call. I loved the look of the one and thought sense 5 was the best sense yet. However due to the dropped calls the phone just did not work for me.
I have talked to others that returned the phone for the same reason

I wouldn't use the HTC one either. The sense UI is rather sluggish (I've used in the past before - HTC incredible and I've used the demo of the HTC one they had the verizon store and it was the same slowness), Not at all a fan of beats by dre/monster cables. And the button layout is kinda eh. Used to having 4 icons at the bottom with the main menu button being near the center.

Vergil117 said:
....but I'm curious as to how hard is it to root a Moto X on Verizon and getting cyanogenmod on it and keep the special features....
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Question for the group... Will rooting alone allow you to install CM? Is CM available to be flashed via safestrap?
I ask because -> http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...cyanogenmod-10-2-experimental-nightly-builds/ and -> http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1060_Info seem to indicate its for Unlocked bootloader or Developer Edition. And since there is no way yet to unlock the non-Dev Edition's boot loader, it further appears its really for Dev Ed only. And all the roms that aren't a leak from Moto in the Developer sections here also state you need a Developer Edition X or Unlocked boot loader.
Vergil117, as far as rooting, JCASE has released ways to root the initial shipping rom version, and the OTA update for the camera fix. So that is easy enough. I have rooted mine, just to tether (I still have unlimited). As with other devices, if you don't have an unlocked boot loader, rooting after new ROM updates are pushed is uncertain.
Like most have posted, I think the X in its stock form is very nice, and I don't find a need to flash a alternate ROM. If you flash to CM, you'll loose the Moto customization like touch-less control, shake for camera, etc.

So I ordered a moto X through the Motomaker software on monday night. It still says est delivery by the 15 but it also says it hasn't shipped. Kinda worried.

Vergil117 said:
So I ordered a moto X through the Motomaker software on monday night. It still says est delivery by the 15 but it also says it hasn't shipped. Kinda worried.
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Same, I got to step 2 on Tuesday morning and that's been it so far. I'm hopeful we'll get our shipping notifications soon so we can get our phones before the weekend. But I know Moto probably got slammed with a bunch of orders on Monday so some of us may have to wait till next week...

Update to the shipping post. I got the fedex info and it should be here Friday yay.

Motorola's update system is way behind. When I ordered mine, over a month ago, It didn't say shipped until the morning it arrived and I didn't get a tracking number until an hour or so after I had already received the device.
But it arrived the day they said it would... I'd rather the info be late instead of the phone
Moto X rocking 4.4

Oh I know the feeling, Fedex was being lazy yesterday with my order. I live in a gated apartment building, the main lobby is like right next to the door to the building. I honestly think they saw the door and said oh no one here and went away. So I had to call them and tell them to drop it off at a fedex store.

[Q] What Moto X version to get

So I'm having a bit of a conundrum. My current RAZR M is very nice, but is facing a few problems (I won't go into detail). After a lot of research, I've decided the Moto X will most likely be my next phone. Some additional motivation is I have a $50 coupon off a new Moto X and tomorrow starts Motorola's Moto X Valentine's Day sale. It seems like a good time to pick one up.
My question is should I get the Dev version with the black front with white backing, to which I'm not a huge fan of or get a MotoMaker version and design one that I like? Like most here, once I get my hands on the device, I'm going to want to root it and start tweaking everything to my liking. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Hikikomori-Otaku said:
So I'm having a bit of a conundrum. My current RAZR M is very nice, but is facing a few problems (I won't go into detail). After a lot of research, I've decided the Moto X will most likely be my next phone. Some additional motivation is I have a $50 coupon off a new Moto X and tomorrow starts Motorola's Moto X Valentine's Day sale. It seems like a good time to pick one up.
My question is should I get the Dev version with the black front with white backing, to which I'm not a huge fan of or get a MotoMaker version and design one that I like? Like most here, once I get my hands on the device, I'm going to want to root it and start tweaking everything to my liking. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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There have been lots of threads on this. Searching is good.
The cheapest, most customizable and most tweakable is the T-Mobile version. this comes already carrier unlocked, and you can unlock its bootloader easily.

Hikikomori-Otaku said:
My question is should I get the Dev version with the black front with white backing, to which I'm not a huge fan of or get a MotoMaker version and design one that I like?
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I think you already know the answer. It's like trying to decide between the ugly girl who gives it up easily or the attractive girl who makes you work for it but is totally worth the time and effort.

nhizzat said:
I think you already know the answer. It's like trying to decide between the ugly girl who gives it up easily or the attractive girl who makes you work for it but is totally worth the time and effort.
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I deal with my hot wife every day. I want my phone to be easy. I went with the dev model and am happy
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We like our phones hot like your wife lol
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Hikikomori-Otaku said:
So I'm having a bit of a conundrum. My current RAZR M is very nice, but is facing a few problems (I won't go into detail). After a lot of research, I've decided the Moto X will most likely be my next phone. Some additional motivation is I have a $50 coupon off a new Moto X and tomorrow starts Motorola's Moto X Valentine's Day sale. It seems like a good time to pick one up.
My question is should I get the Dev version with the black front with white backing, to which I'm not a huge fan of or get a MotoMaker version and design one that I like? Like most here, once I get my hands on the device, I'm going to want to root it and start tweaking everything to my liking. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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I'm assuming you're a VZW customer, and planning to stay as one... So don't get the Tmobile version.
What means more to you, a customized look, or the ability to unlock it? Unlocking guarantees you the ability to root. While you can root the VZW moto maker phones, you cannot now, and likely will never be able to unlock it.

TheSaw said:
There have been lots of threads on this. Searching is good.
The cheapest, most customizable and most tweakable is the T-Mobile version. this comes already carrier unlocked, and you can unlock its bootloader easily.
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To be fair, I did search and not just here. Most what I found were people moving from "top-tier" model phones. The other being that the prices have change a bit from the release date. I will keep you advice in mind though.
I was thining the T-Mobile version would be the best too. From what I've read, it'll be a bit of work but that is part of the fun.
nhizzat said:
I think you already know the answer. It's like trying to decide between the ugly girl who gives it up easily or the attractive girl who makes you work for it but is totally worth the time and effort.
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While I may not like to context of your analogy, you message is clear. Getting a beautiful phone and putting forth a bit of work to making fully my own may be worth it in the end.
Coop9 said:
I'm assuming you're a VZW customer, and planning to stay as one... So don't get the Tmobile version.
What means more to you, a customized look, or the ability to unlock it? Unlocking guarantees you the ability to root. While you can root the VZW moto maker phones, you cannot now, and likely will never be able to unlock it.
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When I originally got my RAZR M, I was on VZW (prepaid to be exact), the tweaks I had done to make it work on their network caused to phone to not play well with the network at times. I removed the frequency block on the radio and now am running my RAZR M with a GoPhone SIM. Works much better even if AT&T's coverage isn't as good a VZW's in my area.

[Q] Is the Vzw Dev Edition worth it?

Like the title says, is the Verizon Wireless Dev Edition worth the extra $50 for the unlocked bootloader and additional 16gb?
Coming from moto devices with locked bootloaders (Droid 1, 3, Razr Maxx) you would think it would be an easy answer because of the unlocked bootloader the Dev Edition has. Just want to make sure if it's really worth it, as this will most likely be my last Moto device (Thx to Lenovo).

Do you want a warranty if you plan to unlock? Do you need the 32gb or is 16 good?
I don't see any other need for discussion ....its what you need. No one here can guess what you need?
But my quick answer ...soley based on the fact that 50 is not a huge amount of cash....yes. I'd get it for sure if I could have. Why not?
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Do you want root without having to jump through hoops and ladders, hoping that someone finds an exploit after each OTA? If so then yes, the extra cost (which is just for the extra 16gb) isn't that much in the big picture and is definitely worth the convenience if you are a root/rom user.
Also, I don't think Lenovo is going to ruin Motorola like everyone is thinking they are, but that's for a different topic.

For me yes. I don't want a device that I cannot unlock the bootloader.

It's the same price as a non-DE 32 GB Moto X. The real question is, "what's more important for you: a custom-designed phone or an unlockable bootloader?" For me, the decision was easy, I took the DE and bought a diztronic case to cover the white back.

rda990 said:
Like the title says, is the Verizon Wireless Dev Edition worth the extra $50 for the unlocked bootloader and additional 16gb?
Coming from moto devices with locked bootloaders (Droid 1, 3, Razr Maxx) you would think it would be an easy answer because of the unlocked bootloader the Dev Edition has. Just want to make sure if it's really worth it, as this will most likely be my last Moto device (Thx to Lenovo).
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Yes it is.

kj2112 said:
Do you want a warranty if you plan to unlock? Do you need the 32gb or is 16 good?
I don't see any other need for discussion ....its what you need. No one here can guess what you need?
But my quick answer ...soley based on the fact that 50 is not a huge amount of cash....yes. I'd get it for sure if I could have. Why not?
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Keeping the warranty while unlocked would be nice. I currently have a 64gb external + 16gb internal on my Razr Maxx, so I probably will need all the space possible.
I just wanted to hear some opinions of people, if think it's worth it or not and why.
detonation said:
Do you want root without having to jump through hoops and ladders, hoping that someone finds an exploit after each OTA? If so then yes, the extra cost (which is just for the extra 16gb) isn't that much in the big picture and is definitely worth the convenience if you are a root/rom user.
Also, I don't think Lenovo is going to ruin Motorola like everyone is thinking they are, but that's for a different topic.
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Dev Edition comes rooted???
I really hope Lenovo doesn't, no one really knows. They could keep the Motorola name going for a few years and just get totally rid of it by slapping the name "Lenovo" on future moto hardware.
esmith818 said:
It's the same price as a non-DE 32 GB Moto X. The real question is, "what's more important for you: a custom-designed phone or an unlockable bootloader?" For me, the decision was easy, I took the DE and bought a diztronic case to cover the white back.
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All my phones have been protected with an Otterbox, never have been naked so there wouldn't be a point in getting a custom one.
How good is a diztronic compared to an Otterbox?
Thanks guys for your comments. I'll be ordering a Dev Edition later today, it's going to be hard letting go of my OG Razr Maxx.

rda990 said:
How good is a diztronic compared to an Otterbox?
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If you're an otter box guy, you'll want to stick with that brand. I have always gone case-less, but just can't stomach the white back on the DE. The diztronic is merely for looks -- I can't imagine it would be of any use if the phone were dropped.

rda990 said:
Dev Edition comes rooted???
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No, but it's about as easy as rooting a Nexus device (unlock the bootloader via Motorola's website, flash a custom recovery, then flash SU). And you get to keep your warranty.
Without the DE, you cannot unlock the bootloader, and to get root you need to downgrade to 4.2.2 and run an exploit which involves executing some scripts via telnut. And once the next OTA comes out, it's likely this method will be patched and you'd need to wait for another exploit to be found.

detonation said:
No, but it's about as easy as rooting a Nexus device (unlock the bootloader via Motorola's website, flash a custom recovery, then flash SU). And you get to keep your warranty.
Without the DE, you cannot unlock the bootloader, and to get root you need to downgrade to 4.2.2 and run an exploit which involves executing some scripts via telnut. And once the next OTA comes out, it's likely this method will be patched and you'd need to wait for another exploit to be found.
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Other Moto x's can have unlocked bootloaders...except a couple. You just void warranty.
Just to be clear.
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Yes tho...if he gets an ordinary Verizon ....he can't unlock boot loader. Boo Verizon. Lol
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If the back is an issue just buy a new back off of eBay. They are pretty easy to get on and off.
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rda990 said:
....it's going to be hard letting go of my OG Razr Maxx.
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I had a Razr MAXX and don't miss it at all. The Moto X is a much better phone. It won't match the battery life of the MAXX, but its worth the trade-off.

esmith818 said:
If you're an otter box guy, you'll want to stick with that brand. I have always gone case-less, but just can't stomach the white back on the DE. The diztronic is merely for looks -- I can't imagine it would be of any use if the phone were dropped.
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Yea I'll just stick to Otterbox then. It's amazing how many times I've dropped my Razr Maxx (honestly over 100) and it's still running strong. My first Otterbox case started to show heavy signs of wear and tear so I got a brand new one from Otterbox thanks to their lifetime warranty :good:
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No, but it's about as easy as rooting a Nexus device (unlock the bootloader via Motorola's website, flash a custom recovery, then flash SU). And you get to keep your warranty.
Without the DE, you cannot unlock the bootloader, and to get root you need to downgrade to 4.2.2 and run an exploit which involves executing some scripts via telnut. And once the next OTA comes out, it's likely this method will be patched and you'd need to wait for another exploit to be found.
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Very easy I see. I thought that with every OTA even on the DE you have to re-root. So on a DE/Unlocked Bootleader SU/Root stays permanently, thanks for clarifying.
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I had a Razr MAXX and don't miss it at all. The Moto X is a much better phone. It won't match the battery life of the MAXX, but its worth the trade-off.
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I might miss it more since I paid ~$500 for the Limited Edition (Employee Edition) one, so to me it is much more than just a Razr Maxx, dumb I know...How different is battery life between the too? I would think that the X would hang in there with the Droid regardless of battery size since the Maxx is 2 years old.

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I might miss it more since I paid ~$500 for the Limited Edition (Employee Edition) one, so to me it is much more than just a Razr Maxx, dumb I know...How different is battery life between the too? I would think that the X would hang in there with the Droid regardless of battery size since the Maxx is 2 years old.
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With the MAXX I could easily get 24+ hours with 5.5-6 hrs screen on time with heavy use. Some people on here have been able to get close to that with their X, but I'm getting closer to 3.5-4 hrs of screen on time.
As always you're mileage may vary.

rda990 said:
Very easy I see. I thought that with every OTA even on the DE you have to re-root. So on a DE/Unlocked Bootleader SU/Root stays permanently, thanks for clarifying.
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Well you do have to re-root after an OTA (assuming you haven't made system changes so that you can even take it) just like a Nexus, but it's still simply just reflashing a custom recovery and the SU zip. The bootloader stays unlocked.

For me yes its worth it. Rooting a non-Dev edition, looks like too much monkey business for me to be involved in. And I do like the extra 16gb.

Roland Stone said:
For me yes its worth it. Rooting a non-Dev edition, looks like too much monkey business for me to be involved in. And I do like the extra 16gb.
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Rooting any unlocked x is the same.
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rda990 said:
Yea I'll just stick to Otterbox then. It's amazing how many times I've dropped my Razr Maxx (honestly over 100) and it's still running strong. ...
Very easy I see. I thought that with every OTA even on the DE you have to re-root. So on a DE/Unlocked Bootleader SU/Root stays permanently, thanks for clarifying. .
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If you're going with a case, then the woven white back of the DE vs. customization of the moto maker version is off the table.
That brings it down to how much do you need root? and how easy do you want the root process to be.
Yes, you need to re-root for every OTA. To root in the first place, you flash a custom recovery (like TWRP), then flash/install SuperSU. To get ready for the next OTA, as long as you didn't touch system files, etc, just flash the stock recovery back on, take the OTA. Once its on there, re-root by flashing custom recovery then flash/install SuperSU.
I for one wanted root enough to purchase the Dev X for Verizon in early Nov, just two days before the first price drop. I don't regret it. Its easy to root, easy to put back to take OTA and re-root. And has 32gig (the 16gig version only had 11gig available to me out of the box which was not enough).

$50 for 16 GB was enough for me. The bootloader that is easier to unlock made the cost even more justifiable. I really don't care what my phone looks like as long as it is not gaudy, so the color choice, or lack thereof, didn't really bother me.
My only complaint with the phone is the current lack of development. Coming from a Galaxy Nexus toro, I knew there wouldn't be as much development, but it's drastically less. There have been no official releases from CM or AOKP which still baffles me.

The phone just isn't that popular for some crazy reason.....boo Google....hopefully the new guys turn Motorola around. Also the things that make the Moto x unique are gone on CM. So demand is low. Xposed fills the gap nicely tho.
Voiding warranties unlocking non dev boot loaders probably adds to the lack of interest too.
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Pure

Maybe I'm the only one who doesn't get it but I'm trying to order a Pure edition 2014 model on Motorola site but then it asks me to choose AT&T or Verizon. I thought pure edition was basically good for any carrier. Am I wrong do I have to pick carrier when buying Pure? Thanks.

AFAIK pure edition is when you choose T-Mobile version. It will work with at&t but won't work with Verizon. Its the only one without carrier branding and their apps, that's why it is called as a pure edition.
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On that page under "Choose Your Plan Type" you have to select unlocked without a contract. Then the Pure edition will be an option.

Thanks. Just tried selecting it and get message saying "the 32gb version with color selected not available for t-mobile at this time"
Guess that means sold out. So Pure will work with t-mobile and att right? I just have to wait for the t-mobile version to become available?

mario24601 said:
Thanks. Just tried selecting it and get message saying "the 32gb version with color selected not available for t-mobile at this time"
Guess that means sold out. So Pure will work with t-mobile and att right? I just have to wait for the t-mobile version to become available?
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Yeah, it comes with a T-Mobile sim but works just fine on AT&T. I'm using mine on AT&T so I can vouch for it.
They are out of stock with some color choices it seems. I want to send mine back for a different color combo but they are out of stock of the black fronts with 32gb. Hopefully they'll be back in stock before my exchange window is up.

_MetalHead_ said:
Yeah, it comes with a T-Mobile sim but works just fine on AT&T. I'm using mine on AT&T so I can vouch for it.
They are out of stock with some color choices it seems. I want to send mine back for a different color combo but they are out of stock of the black fronts with 32gb. Hopefully they'll be back in stock before my exchange window is up.
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Thanks. Lte and mms all working fine on att?

mario24601 said:
Thanks. Lte and mms all working fine on att?
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Yep! Everything works perfectly. Just put your sim in and run with it.

Really glad I'm not the only one who was confused by that. Unfortunately I made the mistake of ordering the AT&T version and had to return it and re-order a Pure edition. Got it all worked out and am now happily running an unlocked, rooted Pure Edition on AT&T.

Tried to order OPO, couldn't get through so just ordered Pure X. Can't wait to get it. Hope positive reviews are accurate and really hope negative reviews are not that true. I'm moving up from Nexus 4 so I'm thinking should be a significant jump up. Even ordered sim cutter to chop my AT&T sim down.

mario24601 said:
Tried to order OPO, couldn't get through so just ordered Pure X. Can't wait to get it. Hope positive reviews are accurate and really hope negative reviews are not that true. I'm moving up from Nexus 4 so I'm thinking should be a significant jump up. Even ordered sim cutter to chop my AT&T sim down.
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I had the OPO and sold it after 3 days. Trust me when I say this- you did the right thing by going with the X. It's in a class all its own. And coming from the Nexus 4, be prepared to be blown away. Taking all factors into account, the X is the best device currently available, IMO.
Why the sim cutter though? Just go to AT&T and get a nano sim.

_MetalHead_ said:
I had the OPO and sold it after 3 days. Trust me when I say this- you did the right thing by going with the X. It's in a class all its own. And coming from the Nexus 4, be prepared to be blown away. Taking all factors into account, the X is the best device currently available, IMO.
Why the sim cutter though? Just go to AT&T and get a nano sim.
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Thanks that's good feedback! I'm looking forward to it. I opted to cut my sim because I have att service through straight talk so a new sim is $15 or so.

_MetalHead_ said:
I had the OPO and sold it after 3 days. Trust me when I say this- you did the right thing by going with the X. It's in a class all its own. And coming from the Nexus 4, be prepared to be blown away. Taking all factors into account, the X is the best device currently available, IMO.
Why the sim cutter though? Just go to AT&T and get a nano sim.
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I just cancelled my OPO pre-order to go with this.
I'm paying more, but I just didn't feel happy with the size jump from Nexus 5 to OPO. I really just wanted an upgrade to my Nexus 5 to do me for the year.
Hope the development scene picks up for this, with us having a pure version.

I hope dev picks up for the X too. I was able to get student discount so if you can get it, saves you $50.

mario24601 said:
Thanks that's good feedback! I'm looking forward to it. I opted to cut my sim because I have att service through straight talk so a new sim is $15 or so.
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Audioboxer said:
I just cancelled my OPO pre-order to go with this.
I'm paying more, but I just didn't feel happy with the size jump from Nexus 5 to OPO. I really just wanted an upgrade to my Nexus 5 to do me for the year.
Hope the development scene picks up for this, with us having a pure version.
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You guys are both going to love it. I have a Nexus 5 too, and it's a decent upgrade. Both phones are incredibly fast, but the Moto X is a much more elegant device.
@Audioboxer- What kind of development are you hoping for? The general consensus with last years Moto X was that the stock software was so good, that no custom ROM was needed. The 2014 Moto X is even better; I can't imagine why someone would want to flash a custom ROM. Not to mention the fact that you would lose the great Motorola features with a lot of ROMs. For me, stock ROM + Xposed is perfect.

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You guys are both going to love it. I am have a Nexus 5 too, and it's a decent upgrade. Both phones are incredibly fast, but the Moto X is a much more elegant device.
@Audioboxer- What kind of development are you hoping for? The general consensus with last years Moto X was that the stock software was so good, that no custom ROM was needed. The 2014 Moto X is even better; I can't imagine why someone would want to flash a custom ROM. Not to mention the fact that you would lose the great Motorola features with a lot of ROMs. For me, stock ROM + Xposed is perfect.
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I'm more so interested in seeing some kernel development (always helps with battery), for the reasons you posted (especially with Android L).
Guess I'm a bit sad this is a 2,300mah battery, but with an AMOLED screen it should be better than the Nexus5.

Audioboxer said:
I'm more so interested in seeing some kernel development (always helps with battery), for the reasons you posted (especially with Android L).
Guess I'm a bit sad this is a 2,300mah battery, but with an AMOLED screen it should be better than the Nexus5.
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2300mah seems small, but I can get 6+ hours screen time on my Moto X which is pretty good, IMO. It gets better battery life than the N5 so it's an upgrade regardless. In the Moto X's case, I'd rather it have the battery it has, than a larger one requiring the phone to be thicker.

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2300mah seems small, but I can get 6+ hours screen time on my Moto X which is pretty good, IMO. It gets better battery life than the N5 so its an upgrade regardless. In the Moto Xs case, Id rather it have the battery it has, than a larger one requiring the phone to be thicker.
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Sounds good
I just need to decide on the basic black back piece or black leather...
How grippy is the black resin? Or is it slippery?

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Sounds good
I just need to decide on the basic black back piece or black leather...
How grippy is the black resin? Or is it slippery?
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It's a tough decision. I have the regular black back, but I'm considering swapping it for a leather one. My buddy just ordered his leather one, so I'm gonna wait and see his and then make my decision. I'm just concerned that the leather will get damaged over time.
The regular back is nice and grippy. It has a great soft touch coating on it.

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It's a tough decision. I have the regular black back, but I'm considering swapping it for a leather one. My buddy just ordered his leather one, so I'm gonna wait and see his and then make my decision. I'm just concerned that the leather will get damaged over time.
The regular back is nice and grippy. It has a great soft touch coating on it.
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Think I'm going to go with regular. Just in case the leather does wear badly.
The Moto X UK site has a sale on for 24 hours today as well Must be fate! Haha.

Noticed that Cyanogenmod didn't really take off on the original Moto X. I'd hope with this years having modern specs we'd at least see Cyanogenmod popup in here for our Pure Editions :good:

Sending it back unfortunately....

It is entirely too unweildy for me for everyday usage.
Basic things like it not fitting in the cup holder or the dedicated cellphone pocket in my truck, not to mention being very afraid of dropping it because of the slick sides and back.
1" smaller and I'd be in love (that's not what she said)

roadratx said:
It is entirely too unweildy for me for everyday usage.
Basic things like it not fitting in the cup holder or the dedicated cellphone pocket in my truck, not to mention being very afraid of dropping it because of the slick sides and back.
1" smaller and I'd be in love (that's not what she said)
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The Nexus 5 sounds like it would be the perfect device for you. It will give you the Nexus experience, runs on Lollipop now, early updates, and it is still officially supported by Google. I upgraded my Nexus 5 to Lollipop and runs great on it. Unfortunately now, it is retired to its box as a backup

PaisanNYC said:
The Nexus 5 sounds like it would be the perfect device for you. It will give you the Nexus experience, runs on Lollipop now, early updates, and it is still officially supported by Google. I upgraded my Nexus 5 to Lollipop and runs great on it. Unfortunately now, it is retired to its box as a backup
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Agreed, except I'm on Verizon.
AT&T and TMo are not sufficient for my coverage needs.
Back to my Moto X (2013) for now.
Hopefully, they release a "N6 Minus" (hahaha)
If anyone in Houston wants a 1 day old N6, I'll happily sell it at cost rather than return it to Google Play.

roadratx said:
It is entirely too unweildy for me for everyday usage.
Basic things like it not fitting in the cup holder or the dedicated cellphone pocket in my truck, not to mention being very afraid of dropping it because of the slick sides and back.
1" smaller and I'd be in love (that's not what she said)
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Why not get a new truck?

Witek_M said:
Why not get a new truck?
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and he can upgrade his dainty girly hands lol

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The Nexus 5 sounds like it would be the perfect device for you. It will give you the Nexus experience, runs on Lollipop now, early updates, and it is still officially supported by Google. I upgraded my Nexus 5 to Lollipop and runs great on it. Unfortunately now, it is retired to its box as a backup
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My nexus 5 is also back in its original box.

Since you are with Verizon, why not get the Droid Turbo? Seems like a solid upgrade from the Moto X (2013) and it's easily one of the best phones you can get on Verizon.

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Since you are with Verizon, why not get the Droid Turbo? Seems like a solid upgrade from the Moto X (2013) and it's easily one of the best phones you can get on Verizon.
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I would highly advise against this. The turbo has a ton of bugs as of right now. May become better over time but it is a flawed device.
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Ironkidz said:
I would highly advise against this. The turbo has a ton of bugs as of right now. May become better over time but it is a flawed device.
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Bugs such as what? Linus released a video and his biggest complaint was the camera with moving action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIInLiej680&list=UUXuqSBlHAE6Xw-yeJA0Tunw
Although, I will say this... if development such as ROM or kernel development is important then Droid Turbo is not the way to go because Verizon devices tend to be very locked down (with the exception of Nexus devices... but then again VZW proved us wrong on the Galaxy Nexus and released no details about N6 yet other that they're having it on their network)

roadratx said:
Agreed, except I'm on Verizon.
AT&T and TMo are not sufficient for my coverage needs.
Back to my Moto X (2013) for now.
Hopefully, they release a "N6 Minus" (hahaha)
If anyone in Houston wants a 1 day old N6, I'll happily sell it at cost rather than return it to Google Play.
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I'm in okc. Would you be willing to ship? If we do it over PayPal there is a claims resolution. I've used it to get back cash from a crappy sale. I think this is how it goes.
1. I pay you over PayPal
2. You ship with signature confirmation to prove shipment and protect yourself.
We could also use Google wallet if you prefer, but i don't know how that might work.

zephiK said:
Bugs such as what? Linus released a video and his biggest complaint was the camera with moving action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIInLiej680&list=UUXuqSBlHAE6Xw-yeJA0Tunw
Although, I will say this... if development such as ROM or kernel development is important then Droid Turbo is not the way to go because Verizon devices tend to be very locked down (with the exception of Nexus devices... but then again VZW proved us wrong on the Galaxy Nexus and released no details about N6 yet other that they're having it on their network)
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Screen brightness is terrible, speaker volume is a joke, battery life is abysmal, quick charging is as fast as regular charging, phone gets ridiculously hot, some users including myself and on the Verge experience terrible screen scrolling lag, you can't remove the Google search bar which is persistent on every screen, camera is very slow.

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You can't remove the Google search bar which is persistent on every screen
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It's been this way in stock Android since Jelly Bean, so nothing new...I actually like having it

roadratx said:
Agreed, except I'm on Verizon.
AT&T and TMo are not sufficient for my coverage needs.
Back to my Moto X (2013) for now.
Hopefully, they release a "N6 Minus" (hahaha)
If anyone in Houston wants a 1 day old N6, I'll happily sell it at cost rather than return it to Google Play.
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what color is it?

Blue 32gb.

roadratx said:
Agreed, except I'm on Verizon.
AT&T and TMo are not sufficient for my coverage needs.
Back to my Moto X (2013) for now.
Hopefully, they release a "N6 Minus" (hahaha)
If anyone in Houston wants a 1 day old N6, I'll happily sell it at cost rather than return it to Google Play.
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The Nexus 6 mini is already out. It's the Moto X (2014)

Did you buy through Motorola or the play store? Why not get your money back and buy the new moto x outright. Sounds like exactly what you're wanting from the nexus, plus it got lollipop already before any other carrier version. What bizarre world did I wake up in today?
Sent from my Nexus 6