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[Q] I need advice about touch pad

Hi everyone
I have one question about the HP touch pad, personally i got an Asus transformer and i want to buy a Chinese tablet for cheap for my little son, while searching in some stores i found a touch pad in good condition and for a fair price. the question is the touch worth to get? i found in forums that we can install android in it, so my son can play all the games used to play in Asus transformer. so what you think guys HP touch pad or a brand new Chinese tablet?
thanks

Topol-Ms said:
Hi everyone
I have one question about the HP touch pad, personally i got an Asus transformer and i want to buy a Chinese tablet for cheap for my little son, while searching in some stores i found a touch pad in good condition and for a fair price. the question is the touch worth to get? i found in forums that we can install android in it, so my son can play all the games used to play in Asus transformer. so what you think guys HP touch pad or a brand new Chinese tablet?
thanks
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With the touchpad you have the advantage of dual booting (once you install android). WebOs is great, I spend almost half my time there. It doesn't have as much app selection as android, but that's why you have a dual boot tablet.....
I own a couple of cheap chinese tablets, and there is no comparison, you'll be using the tp yourself and leaving the Asus for your son....

chicle_11 said:
With the touchpad you have the advantage of dual booting (once you install android). WebOs is great, I spend almost half my time there. It doesn't have as much app selection as android, but that's why you have a dual boot tablet.....
I own a couple of cheap chinese tablets, and there is no comparison, you'll be using the tp yourself and leaving the Asus for your son....
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A minor issue with Android on the Touch pad is that at the ,moment the microphone and the camera doesn't work. Other than that Android on the Touchpad is awesome. Once you use WebOS you will realize that this is how a tablet is supposed to be used but I found that there really isn't much to do in WebOS, which is quite sad, and that's why I mainly use Android. Also if your Asus is rooted then get Titanium Backup and just restore the apps he uses on there onto the Touchpad so he won't lose his place in the games he plays or lose the settings in the apps he uses.
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I think there is also an issue with the touchpad which drains about 15-20% battery a night while not in use. It does not have this issue while running webos.

WHile the camera doesn't work (and there is no eta on it), the mic in fact DOES work. I have tested it with Groove IP, Andy, VLingo and Alice. This is a recent development from the CM9 official nightlies. Here is proof. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzpCNzDdjAQ
Since the TP is not an official android device, occasionally some apps and games (more so on games) will say not compatible. This is easily fixed with some build.prop tweaks though. It has no removable SD card storage so you will not be able to expand. There is also a program limit that, when you hit it, the TP gets a little testy. If you stay under it, you're fine. Those aside, it's a GREAT and peppy device especially if bumped up a bit via set cpu or something similar. Unlike another poster, I spend 95% of my time in android and not webOS. Since it dual boots, it's handy because you'll have storage access even if one of the OSes is crashing. BT keyboards work as do BT gamepads like the PS3 one (and even a Wii one I think). Also, the TP benchmarks pretty well.
One of the major reasons why you should do a rooted TP over a chinese tablet is market access. Chinese tabs are notorious for having ultra limited apps available unless you do a market unlocker.
Edit-forgot. With my screen off at night, I only lose about 1% an hour at best. I've seen reports of the major drops but it doesn't happen to me.

thanks all of you guys, I got the TP and I love it, my son too. by the way TP got a better screen than the transformer,the colors are warm and shiny.

You can make it real easy for your son with the TouchStone. Its an inductive charging stand. So, you never plug in wires, just set it in the base when done. My kids use mine all the time, and not having to worry about them yanking on it and breaking the cord is a relief for me. The official HP case is pretty good too, good protection, built in stand, and you can still use the TouchStone without taking it out of the case. Plus it isn't the fingerprint magnet the naked device is, and the microfiber lining keeps the screen clean.
The TouchPad was such a surprise to me when I got it. It outspecced the iPad 2, great build quality, and cool accessories. If webOS had the app selection Android did I would prefer webOS, its smooth, fast, and intuitive.
Sent from my Galaxy S II

Or wait a couple of weeks and buy a Google Nexus?

Tf701 not on forum yet?

I was just wondering why the tf701 isn't added to the forum yet.
I have heard nothing about it over at xda, is it me or are people just not stoked to welcome this device?
This also makes me wonder on how development is going to be on this device..

i am wondering about exactly the same, since i have one already

Lamensis said:
i am wondering about exactly the same, since i have one already
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Do you come from a tf700 as well? If so, how does the non-aluminum dock feel like : cheap, sturdy etc.
Oh and have you experienced any random reboots? I heard stories about that

shaggydiamond said:
Do you come from a tf700 as well? If so, how does the non-aluminum dock feel like : cheap, sturdy etc.
Oh and have you experienced any random reboots? I heard stories about that
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Nope, didnt have any tablet before. the dock feels slightly cheap, but can be due to the light weight.
I've read about that reboot crash stuff aswell at amazon,but i did not experience such things so far, AND there is already a new firmware that fixes those problems (also written at amazon).
What i also like is that Asus already released the Bootloader unlocker, but since only have it since 4 days i want to wait until i do such things.
Negative points so far: No Vibration.
positive points so far: Battery, Floating Apps, not that much bloat ware.

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Mods, please create a TF701 forum section plz :laugh:

+1
I'll be getting one of these beauties to replace my TF101

Lamensis said:
Nope, didnt have any tablet before. the dock feels slightly cheap, but can be due to the light weight.
I've read about that reboot crash stuff aswell at amazon,but i did not experience such things so far, AND there is already a new firmware that fixes those problems (also written at amazon).
What i also like is that Asus already released the Bootloader unlocker, but since only have it since 4 days i want to wait until i do such things.
Negative points so far: No Vibration.
positive points so far: Battery, Floating Apps, not that much bloat ware.
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I was able to root my tf700t without unlocking bootloader, in fact i've customized it to a maximum level using only root.
So no rom flashing or anything.
Maybe that method will work on the tf701, but I highly doubt it cause its a new processor.
Still waiting for the new infinity to come to shops, it's available in webshops but I want to have a warranty at a store.
Can't wait to have it though

shaggydiamond said:
I was able to root my tf700t without unlocking bootloader, in fact i've customized it to a maximum level using only root.
So no rom flashing or anything.
Maybe that method will work on the tf701, but I highly doubt it cause its a new processor.
Still waiting for the new infinity to come to shops, it's available in webshops but I want to have a warranty at a store.
Can't wait to have it though
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I received my TF701 yesterday. In the Netherlands it is already available in some webshops.
First impression:
- crystal clear screen (in one word: WOW)
- no lag of any sort: everything works great
- graphics on games as Beach Buggy Blitz are amazing! No lag of any sort, not even on the highest resolution etc.
- tablet itself has an aluminium cover (dark grey). It does not look purple like the prime. I like it, but that's a personal thing
- WiFi is excellent! Compared to the Transformer Prime, that is not a surprise. However, the TF701 detects the same signals as the 17" laptop, a desktop PC with a USB-wifidongle and a cellphone (Samsung Galaxy S3 mini) do.
- GPS is detecting satellites instantly
And now the cons:
- the dock is made of plastic and sounds plastic, al little cheap. Everything works as it should though...
- I tried to plug in a USB-stick: some force is needed (though I thinks that has to do with the stick, which is always in my pocket...
- at start up I tried the mousepad, it did not work instantly... After I plugged in a USB-stick, it worked splendidly (every time). It seems you have to 'activate' the mousepad
- I am desperately missing root... I'd like to put back my backups, but that doesn't work right now.
- the server to update firmware automaticly was down yesterday.

Govermans said:
I received my TF701 yesterday. In the Netherlands it is already available in some webshops.
First impression:
- crystal clear screen (in one word: WOW)
- no lag of any sort: everything works great
- graphics on games as Beach Buggy Blitz are amazing! No lag of any sort, not even on the highest resolution etc.
- tablet itself has an aluminium cover (dark grey). It does not look purple like the prime. I like it, but that's a personal thing
- WiFi is excellent! Compared to the Transformer Prime, that is not a surprise. However, the TF701 detects the same signals as the 17" laptop, a desktop PC with a USB-wifidongle and a cellphone (Samsung Galaxy S3 mini) do.
- GPS is detecting satellites instantly
And now the cons:
- the dock is made of plastic and sounds plastic, al little cheap. Everything works as it should though...
- I tried to plug in a USB-stick: some force is needed (though I thinks that has to do with the stick, which is always in my pocket...
- at start up I tried the mousepad, it did not work instantly... After I plugged in a USB-stick, it worked splendidly (every time). It seems you have to 'activate' the mousepad
- I am desperately missing root... I'd like to put back my backups, but that doesn't work right now.
- the server to update firmware automaticly was down yesterday.
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Thanks for informing me ^^
About that usb stick insertion thing, I had the same thing going on with my tf700 with any usb cable or stick. it's definitely the usb port I think.
You could try and root using motochopper or a CF auto root. This doesn't affect your bootloader what so ever so if it works, its great, and if it fails.. well it just fails then, no harm there at all

I have tried motorchopper and DebugfsRoot_Generic_v2.3. They both did not work: I have no root.
And for the record: I am NOT taking a risk of HARD-BRICK my brandnew device... So no flashing and downgrades for me the next 24 months...

True.
but tbh, i flashed the new firmware today cause i had a random reboot yesterday. So far the slight lags are gone, and no reboots, i'll keep on testing

The mousepad issue has been fixed in the latest firmware update and is working fine now on my TF701

I have mine since last week (Switzerland) and I am VERY happy with it! Eagerly waiting for the forum to discuss on XDA - and root of course!
I really have no complaints about the device until now. No reboots, no problem with dock and keyboard, fast like hell, long battery life and a superduper screen )) Every USB stick I tested worked fine and my 64 GB SanDisk microSD adds a looot of fast storage. Charges in under 3 hours, I love that!
It can easily stream 1080p MKV files from my NAS with BSPlayer without struggling... Comming from Galaxy Tab 10.1 (first version) it's an upgrade in every matter I can think of!

Can someone post up some pics of the device? I heard that the US will be it first week of Nov. I hope that is true.

rfs830 said:
Can someone post up some pics of the device? I heard that the US will be it first week of Nov. I hope that is true.
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and a screen shot of the home screen would be nice... im going to get one when it is available in the USA . does the 201 dock work with it?

ianwardell said:
and a screen shot of the home screen would be nice... im going to get one when it is available in the USA . does the 201 dock work with it?
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Previous docks and chargers wont work as the connector has changed.

sbdags said:
Previous docks and chargers wont work as the connector has changed.
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That sucks......:/ did they make it thinner or something?
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rfs830 said:
Can someone post up some pics of the device? I heard that the US will be it first week of Nov. I hope that is true.
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There are loads of pictures online that can be found with google. If you want a picture of anything specific let me know.

^^ same here: I can make pictures etc. this afternoon. Same goes for testing: if you want something tested, let me know. I'll try it then.

Really looking forward to the TF701 - thanks for the info from those lucky enough to have one already. I've been waiting ages for this - but then haven't we all!
An upgrade for my TF101 is overdue.
Glad to hear random reboots appear to be not happening / or are being resolved with OTA upgrades.
Anyone know of availability in the UK?

upgrade from tf700?

Hello hello!
I own the tf700 and i really like it. Well, execpt the performance isn that good for me. Its a bit sluggish and laggy sometimes wich bothers me.
Will the tegra 4/the tf701 be a noticable upgrade in terms of performance?

Oh yes!!!!!!! [emoji122] [emoji106]
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hello,
yes it is much faster.
having said that the overall finish and build quality is terrible and their after purchase warranty support is terrible.
please buy this from a physical store and test it well in store to make sure you get a good one is all the advice i can give you.
to list a few
pro
fast
great screen
more batt lif with dock
sd card and micro sd card for large space amounts.
usb 3 port for wireless mouse other devices.
cons
build quality
most countries dock have d/c issues and other issues like charge failures etc etc.
seems to be abandoned via asus considering they announced 4.4 for the padfones but left this device out of the list.
keyboard dock is made of plastic ???
when docked and upright it falls back as the plastic body of the dock can`t hold the device flat.
uncertain
stock software (is possibly stable, the screen still changes brightness too much for my liking) mine reboots a lot for no reason. however it`s away for it`s 4th trip to asus and they still refuse to replace it. so the rebooting could be related to my tab being one of the many fail devices out there.
i`m just being 100% honest here.
Please try it at a store as the idea is great and should be a top competitor against ipad and Samsung tabs but asus`s execution and build quality let it down.

TF701 any negatives

I am trading-in my TF700 for a TF701. Has anyone that has had theirs for a while found any negatives? If you had it to do over would you still get the TF701 or something else? If something else what would it be?

I've had some occasionally odd screen behavior. I had to send it back for repair because the phantom touches made it unusable.
Now once in a while an area near the edge might not respond. It's usually very minor.
Despite that I am very happy with it. There's more development going on so there are now four kitkat roms that I know of.
It's very fast. Apps, home screens (Nova) and menus don't hesitate. I'm coming from an Xperia tablet Z. We also have a nexus 7 and an lg g pad 8.3. All are good. I like this one best.
I also like the proprietary charging port. It's sturdier. On my Z the plug would get the slightest pressure and start to bend or fall out.

I have no problems at all! My first and best tablet so far I have it since last november!

Best tablet I ever used too! And it's got CROMi-X and CROMBi-kk on it as well - what more could you ask for?

I can see room for improvement in the software.
i mean for all devices anyway,
but improvements are coming every day from open source.
So we will see what exciting things are yet to come.

I had occasional issues such having to restart the tablet to have it download from the play store and the occasional lock up due to too many apps. Most of these issues were solved by sbdags and not by ASUS with CROMi-X. Depressed me I had to unlock my bootloader to get maximum functionality but it is what it is. I still love my tablet.

I'm in fairly the same situation as the OP right now. So, aside from the docking being loose (which can be fixed with a simple mod), most of the issues are software related and could be all cleared through a custom ROM?
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[Q] Buyer Advise for TF701T

I've had a TF201 for a long time but it is now almost dead (smashed screen, dents, slowdown, random reboots).
The TF701T looks like the direct replacement but I suspect it won't get a production Lollipop update.
I am no stranger to flashing custom ROMs and would happily do so again but CM12 development doesn't look quite stable yet although the unofficial ROM in the dev threads looks promising
Question/Poll:
Get a TF701T for form factor and ignore lack of official Lollipop
Get a Nexus 9 with Keyboard and ignore price
Get something else (Asus X205TA Atom for example)

I love mine. With the dock it is basically a laptop replacement for me. Using CM12 as a daily driver with no issues, seems super stable to me.

I was considering a Nexus 9 but decided against it for 2 reasons:
1. no sd card and I use my tablet for a lot of textbook pdf's for school and also emulator roms
2. 4:3 screen and I like widescreen
The keyboard dock on the tf701 is sweet

Sleeepy2 said:
I love mine. With the dock it is basically a laptop replacement for me. Using CM12 as a daily driver with no issues, seems super stable to me.
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Same here, just sometimes Dock connection trouble
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Any idea if they are releasing a model for 2015? I can't find any news if there is a new release or this is the end of line for the transformer line
Slim-bacon

Another contender was announced yesterday at MWC 2015
Sony Z4 tablet with keyboard dock
I'm glad to see someone making a high end android device with a keyboard dock.

mashed_ash said:
Another contender was announced yesterday at MWC 2015
Sony Z4 tablet with keyboard dock
I'm glad to see someone making a high end android device with a keyboard dock.
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Interesting, although it seems to be a Bluetooth keyboard without an extra battery to charge the tablet, rather than a Transformer-style keyboard.

OP, I'm in the exact same market at the exact time
pelago said:
Interesting, although it seems to be a Bluetooth keyboard without an extra battery to charge the tablet, rather than a Transformer-style keyboard.
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True question, but Asus products are all over the place these days. This particular tablet 701t should have been an absolute killer in sales, but it just didn't amount to much. After not such stellar sales on android, microsoft was right up their alley. The transformer tablet concept is just the best IMO. It definitely beats all Apple/Surface keyboard concepts I've seen. It makes sense for them to consider moving to windows. 2in1 windows devices seem to get a lot of help at least from microsoft and trying to push their way into small home office and hospital environments. Lot of that junk still running xp, so there is a big fat corporate market out there. As android goes, it's just too fickle on the high end to predict a standout winner.
Really too bad that asus didn't have a tf702-t or infinity-redux lined up for 2015. I'd be all over that, but no way I'm going to windows. Considering the Sony is waterproof and their android interface is nice and stock-like, I'm going to go for the z4 instead of the asus at this point. Definitely more expensive, but I want ac-wifi and waterproof anyway (not just perks, but things I wish Asus had)
As to battery life, looks like the z4 is reported to be in the 701t+dock territory all on it's own. Sure the dock will suck a little juice, but bt4-LE for keyboards is pretty efficient. I would be surprised if it drained more than an hour in a day. Maybe not, I'll buy it and see

Yep, even Asus's newer tablets like the TF103C no longer have a battery in the dock (although it connects physically rather than Bluetooth), so maybe that's the way things are going. And given how unreliable the dock connector is on the 701, maybe Bluetooth isn't such a bad idea!
I'm also very tempted by the Z4 tablet. I see it will be £499 in the UK, including the keyboard, though, which is a lot more than the 701 initially was priced at, I think.

I was wondering the price as well. Fortunately electronics don't ever seem to price at the transfer rate anyway. FWIW, I'd bet it launched within in $50 of that exact number of pounds rather than the equivalent exchange rate
I don't recall the price of the 701t at launch either. I thought it was something like $399 and no clue on the dock msrp

I think eventually we will see Asus come out with something big.
It may not be too soon. I think they learned their lesson about putting stuff out soon.
For a lot of what Asus makes quality is very important. But pushing out too many tablets too soon has reduced buyer confidence.
They will wait when they have a high spec device that smashes all other competition.

Yeah the tegra4 arrived ahead of the "pack" in the 701t. No reason to think they'll release yesterday's news with a k1 Denver. They seem to be in bed with Intel which is making progress, but compared to nvidia and Qualcomm. . . Intel feels like they are stuck in molasses. Lib-houdini was big, and a joint effort between Intel and Asus primarily (it seems, iirc) hopefully the lull is paving the way for something big and Intel will be aosp friendly

The TF701 will probably be getting official lollipop ROM according to semi-reliable rumors.
I have a TF701 and a TF103C.
If you don't need the higher specs of the 701 you will be happy just using the 103 and saving a bit of money. 103 screen resolution is just fine for normal everyday use, youtube etc. One thing I don't like about the 701 is that it runs kind of hot. On the back upper left where the Tegra CPU is. Battery life is not all that great either. The TF103C with it's Intel CPU does not have the heating issue and seems to be better on battery life. They changed the keyboard option on the 103C. It's a different part# that does not include a battery. So if you want to use the keyboard you will probably be better off with the 701.
One benefit of the keyboard change on the 103 is they moved the USB port to the side and just use a standard micro USB connector for that now. I don't use the keyboard option so one thing I really don't like about the 701 is that proprietary USB connector on the bottom designed for the keyboard. The case I use does not have a hole in the bottom so I cannot close it when charging. Could easily cut a hole I suppose. The other problem with that location is it's very very difficult to use it when plugged in. That connector at the bottom sticks out a ways and is fragile so it would't take much to break. The TF103C location is much better on the side and it's just micro USB that doesn't stick out too far so easier to use while plugged in and less likely to break.
You will be happy with either one I think and I'm pretty sure they will both get official lollipop. Can always use custom ROM lollipop which is available now for the 701.

get the tf701t and ignore the fact that there is no official lollipop yet. the inofficial cm12 is very good, I'm using it all the time. no problems till now

aydink said:
get the tf701t and ignore the fact that there is no official lollipop yet. the inofficial cm12 is very good, I'm using it all the time. no problems till now
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Are there any serious competitors to consider to the 701? I can get it with the dock for $295 from Amazon right now and unless I am missing something out there or coming out soon - there seems to be nothing even close to that price with this performance AND a keyboard without spending $500...
Am I missing something? I ask because looking at a birthday present to myself and want something that has a keyboard and is Android. I will mainly be using it with keyboard for web browsing as a "laptop", watching videos on trips, reading, and some gaming here and there but nothing major. Seems to be a MUCH better alternative and more flexible than the chromebook I was looking at.