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Here comes THAT thread: Jelly Bean?

Alright, everyone.
My Atrix 2 just died on me. Well, didn't die, the screen cracked open, long story.
Basically, I need a new phone.
However, because the Atrix 2 STILL hasn't gotten ICS, I swore to never return to Motorola. Yeah, it's not 100% their fault that it's taking them so long, but seriously? It's become really annoying.
So I promised to ONLY buy Android products that have the word "Nexus" in their title, phones that get DIRECT updates from Google without wait and without alterations.
Problem is, I was gonna hold out on the Galaxy Nexus since I feel like a new one must be on the horizon.
Then I heard of the Atrix HD, which, like the other Atrixes (Atrice? Atrici?) has a very amazing starting price of $100.
And now Motorola mobile is owned by Google, right?
So, the TL;DR version of it is this:
Is this phone likely to see timely and consistent updates from Google? I know it just came out, but you guys are really great at what you do, so I'm wondering what your predictions are. Is this phone likely to see Jelly Bean at all in the near future?
I'd like to buy a phone that is future proof to AT LEAST Jelly Bean.
Thanks

The updates still come from Motorola. The acquisition doesn't mean anything to the updates. But this is probably one of Motorola's flagship phones now, so it'll have to get at least Jelly bean.
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mugabuga said:
The updates still come from Motorola. The acquisition doesn't mean anything to the updates. But this is probably one of Motorola's flagship phones now, so it'll have to get at least Jelly bean.
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according to what i've read, MB models are midrange, XT models are flagship. Regardless of this being the most powerful at the moment, it's mid range. There will be a Droid RAZR HD that will surpass this quickly with an XT model number.

bimmerd00d said:
according to what i've read, MB models are midrange, XT models are flagship. Regardless of this being the most powerful at the moment, it's mid range. There will be a Droid RAZR HD that will surpass this quickly with an XT model number.
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That can't be right. When the Atrix 4G launched it was the top of the line Motorola phone, the first dual core phone and won best of CES 2011. Anyway I'd have to agree with the previous poster it will eventually receive JB.

From my understanding, any device that runs ICS will be able to run JB

Well the only company that has conformed jellybean on there top of the line smartphones is htc!! And they did that yesterday only!! So i will give motorola few more days before hearing about jelly bean upgrade!! And we should understand only phone that has jelly bean is galaxy nexus!! But since motorola mobile is part of google now so we can expect faster upgrade cycle!! And mostly vanilla experience to!!
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hotrod010 said:
Well the only company that has conformed jellybean on there top of the line smartphones is htc!! And they did that yesterday only!! So i will give motorola few more days before hearing about jelly bean upgrade!! And we should understand only phone that has jelly bean is galaxy nexus!! But since motorola mobile is part of google now so we can expect faster upgrade cycle!! And mostly vanilla experience to!!
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Agreed, coming from a RAZR (yesterday) I'm well aware of Moto's lag time in Android updates. I have to say, though, they did an awesome job with ICS... Took forever, but it's awesome!
I took the red pill... It's the mAtrix for me...
http://android-gz.com

Well hope its gonna be soon this time!!!cant wait for buttery smooth experience!!!
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I'm pretty happy with ICS, so I'm OK waiting a little while for JB. Motorola will probably release it in 6 months, then AT&T will delay it for 6-9 more...not that it's really OK, I wish updates were faster. They need to cut out the carrier-specific modifications!

My wife just today got the new Motorola Atrix HD. So far I think it is a very nice phone and hope she gets great service from it. I to hope that the Jelly Bean update is pushed out for this phone. Only time will tell.

According to this, the Motorola Defy will get JB and it's reasonable that the newest devices will too...
Jelly Bean for the MyTouch 4G Slide, Desire HD, and Motorola Defy
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Just noticed it's a ROM so I'm assuming this is specially made b/c of it unlocked? But here is another quote...
"These devices are all a little older than some would expect to be receiving ports. But if the HTC HD2 can get it, newer devices should be able to as well."

Motorola Defy is still running on an old modified Froyo kernel, seeing as how they never even got gingerbread.
Quarx ported Jellybean over, however.Motorola has long stopped during about the defy
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Your best bet is a to go for a Nexus device it you want something that is close to being future proof. I kind of know what you are going through with waiting for a new nexus phone part of the reason I didn't drop $350 GNex. The best advice I can say is go with the AHD for now, you can even get one for $50 on contract from best buy or amazon as long are you don't mind going with the new tiered plans.
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The good news is that AT&T isn't forcing you onto the new shared data plans...yet. I figure they'll eventually decide to do that to keep up with Verizon, but for now they look a little better because of it.

SnoMan88 said:
Your best bet is a to go for a Nexus device it you want something that is close to being future proof. I kind of know what you are going through with waiting for a new nexus phone part of the reason I didn't drop $350 GNex. The best advice I can say is go with the AHD for now, you can even get one for $50 on contract from best buy or amazon as long are you don't mind going with the new tiered plans.
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Why do people still think best buy can't keep unlimited plans? Hasn't this dumb rumor been squashed months ago? Sure there may have been some dumb bbym guy that sucked at his job and lost someone unlimited but don't bunch us all in with his uneducated ass. Come see me, I got you on unlimited.
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Why do people still think best buy can't keep unlimited plans? Hasn't this dumb rumor been squashed months ago? Sure there may have been some dumb bbym guy that sucked at his job and lost someone unlimited but don't bunch us all in with his uneducated ass. Come see me, I got you on unlimited.
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Doesn't BestBuy charge you a Restocking Fee if you decide to return anything, especially a phone? Plus certain electronics only have 15 days instead of 30 days to return an item. If this is still true...save yourself the headache and get it from Costco (at their store or online with free shipping) and they give you free accessories (see my post about Costco just a few days ago).
If BestBuy has changed their policy, good but I can't tell you how long it's been since I've stepped foot in their store because of this. It's maybe part of the reason why they're struggling with their stores and trying to hang on to their mobile wireless departments.

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Doesn't BestBuy charge you a Restocking Fee if you decide to return anything, especially a phone? Plus certain electronics only have 15 days instead of 30 days to return an item. If this is still true...save yourself the headache and get it from Costco (at their store or online with free shipping) and they give you free accessories (see my post about Costco just a few days ago).
If BestBuy has changed their policy, good but I can't tell you how long it's been since I've stepped foot in their store because of this. It's maybe part of the reason why they're struggling with their stores and trying to hang on to their mobile wireless departments.
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Totally agree with you!!! i dont buy any thing form bestbuy anymore!!!

OK.. so this thread turned from a JB discussion to Best Buy? LOL. I'm about to pull the trigger on either the AHD or GS3 and am having a tough time deciding due to the JB issue and a few others. From the sounds of most of the comments here, it doesn't appear likely that Moto will offer the JB update, or am I missing something? The GS3 is a nice phone, but the screen on the AHD is far superior and the build quality of the Moto phone seems solid. What do you guys in this forum think? AT&T will sell me either phone for 50% off, no activation fee and a credit back to my account for the CA sales tax too

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OK.. so this thread turned from a JB discussion to Best Buy? LOL. I'm about to pull the trigger on either the AHD or GS3 and am having a tough time deciding due to the JB issue and a few others. From the sounds of most of the comments here, it doesn't appear likely that Moto will offer the JB update, or am I missing something? The GS3 is a nice phone, but the screen on the AHD is far superior and the build quality of the Moto phone seems solid. What do you guys in this forum think? AT&T will sell me either phone for 50% off, no activation fee and a credit back to my account for the CA sales tax too
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You strike me as someone who intends on modding ur phone, running roms and other mods or apps that require root so that makes the decision very easy, the GS3. It comes with an unlocked bootloader, root was gained before the phone was even released, the dev support is massive, aftermarket support is amazing, and JB is coming soon! Dont like the battery life? You can use a higher capacity battery if you choose. The camera is lovely! Especially since you're gonna be getting it for half off, that makes it a no brainer!
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Gadgetz.... thanks.. Actually your assumption is a little off base and that's due to me having been an iOS person for the past 4 years. And it's also the reason I'm drawn to Android, and even moreso after having watched the various vids about JB and Google Now.. simply amazing new version of Android.
So if I understand what you're saying, you're recommending I go with the GS3 for various reasons, regardless of me not liking the blue tint on AMOLED screens. And I can understand this to some degree. Also, when you install Nova I thought it only changed the look of the home pages and icons. Are you saying that it completely changes the UI including the notification bar where you can toggle on/off for Bluetooth, GPS, Wifi, etc? Sorry, but I'm a noob. I do like the new garnet red color on the GS3 but all of them are fingerprint magnets as you know. What case and screen protector do you recommend? Already found a high end, class 10 32mb microSD for $35 on eBay.

HTC rep

HTC rep came by today. I asked her about the 4.2.2 update and she said sprint and att wont get the update till after Verizon releases the HTC one. Verizon paid HTC for 4.2 on launch for their release exclusively. She also stated that because of Verizon's deal the other 2 carriers won't be getting the update to test till after the Verizon release. She says from what they've told her in the mettings sprint won't have the ota ready till 6-8 weeks after Verizon launches their device.
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HTC rep came by today. I asked her about the 4.2.2 update and she said sprint and att wont get the update till after Verizon releases the HTC one. Verizon paid HTC for 4.2 on launch for their release exclusively. She also stated that because of Verizon's deal the other 2 carriers won't be getting the update to test till after the Verizon release. She says from what they've told her in the mettings sprint won't have the ota ready till 6-8 weeks after Verizon launches their device.
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Heard something similar but not that extreme.
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this is all i need to hear
im gonna be selling my htc one pretty soon and go unlocked

man remember when the EVO was the first non-stock android phone to get 2.2? that **** was awesome.

If it's true(and we will never know 100%)..Selling update exclusives? If it's true then to hell with HTC's broke ass..Hope they go under.It's just a phone and it's just a pointless update.But it's the principal.This phone has been out for 4 months now and the latest update did nothing for what matters most(radio)..Screw Sprint and screw HTC...
/GivingAcrap

What does that mean?
Holy friggin crap.
You mean the carriers haven't even tested the 4.2 update yet?
Wtf
I severely doubt that's true. Why the hell would a carrier pay to stop other carriers from just not get an update to a phone they already have? Its not like the average person is going to think "Oh, Verizon got the HTC One 4.2.2 update first, so it must be the best network."
Nobody thinks about the software version while buying a new phone. It is pretty much implied that if you buy a new flagship that it will be updated soon.
And I'm pretty sure the Dev edition (American) would have gotten the update by now if this were the case. Because if Verizon is able to stop HTC from updating its undbranded phones, then either Verizon has WAY to much money, not to mention screwed up priorities, or HTC is a greedy a$$ cheapskate.

Most reps, no matter what company they represent........... repeat rumors they hear from others. Time and time again their words are proven wrong way more often then correct, especially when it come to release info. Lets hope this is the case.
My 2 cents is all!!
And Verizon paid HTC for 4.2 I dont know how all this works but since when does HTC own 4.2 ?. Google get a cut? Sounds hoakie to me.

flex360 said:
this is all i need to hear
im gonna be selling my htc one pretty soon and go unlocked
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My thoughts exactly bro... My ass will be on T-Mobile with s-off super cid very soon behind this bs
BrianBaker said:
If it's true(and we will never know 100%)..Selling update exclusives? If it's true then to hell with HTC's broke ass..Hope they go under.It's just a phone and it's just a pointless update.But it's the principal.This phone has been out for 4 months now and the latest update did nothing for what matters most(radio)..Screw Sprint and screw HTC...
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exactly bro..WTF is wrong with the bs politics in the damn us. How do you expect the phone to succeed when you bend over backwards every time
naturecannon said:
Most reps, no matter what company they represent........... repeat rumors they hear from others. Time and time again their words are proven wrong way more often then correct, especially when it come to release info. Lets hope this is the case.
My 2 cents is all!!
And Verizon paid HTC for 4.2 I dont know how all this works but since when does HTC own 4.2 ?. Google get a cut? Sounds hoakie to me.
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You're all reacting to, and judging HTC for, a random rumor you heard on a forum from a guy who met a lady who works at HTC (not in the update department) and said "..."

Let's be honest tho, the only perfect HTC device I've noticed was OG EVO. Every other iteration has had a serious issue.
Evo3d: gimmicky camera, bloated slick laggy sense, updates damn neat Non existent! Got murdered by GS2 & EOL in just over a year or before I think.
LTEVO: Ugly plastic back (i liked the design, sense 4 kinda lagged (i liked 4), RADIO FIASCO (worse ever to my knowledge), updates were decent speed tho, & wallpaper bug.
One X: Small ass battery, yellow tint issue, overheating, sorry ass tegra 3, many faulty devices
HTC 1: Gorgeous design, best screen, purple tint camera issue, claims of radio problems (i can't verify), shipped on dated os, 4up camera gimmick.
Personally, I don't think the camera is all that good. I have the people tint issue, & low light pics always blur for me or be mega noised.
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this is HTC's track record....great phones, lousy support.....still luv em though!

O.M.J said:
this is HTC's track record....great phones, lousy support.....still luv em though!
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Are you getting the next HTC? I may go back to Samsung or even get nexus
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See, I wouldn't care so much if we were stuck on 4.2.2 or something. But 4.1.2.....

I wouldn't be surprised if it were true since htc is hard up for money.
I would point out the one thing we are missing from 4.2.2 that we don't have on 4.1.2 but then it would just get ignored
/beatingdeadhorse
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XaoSilentrzk said:
One X: Small ass battery, yellow tint issue, overheating, sorry ass tegra 3, many faulty devices
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Sprint One X did not have a Tegra 3. We've covered this before.

raptoro07 said:
Sprint One X did not have a Tegra 3. We've covered this before.
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You mean at&t?
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raptoro07 said:
Sprint One X did not have a Tegra 3. We've covered this before.
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Insert One X+ comment because I recognize you from the other forum so funny and yeah....

raptoro07 said:
Sprint One X did not have a Tegra 3. We've covered this before.
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I mentioned devices I OWNED dude... I know which is which between LTEVO and One X. Idk why you tried to point that out
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What OS the Galaxy Nexus run? Probably 4.2.
I might get a Moto next time since it is owned by Google, and they might (I hope) concentrate their phones. Not release 10 phones a month. Just a couple a year. And support them. And make them good.
And it seems that only Google is interested in ending the spec war.

I just don't get the thinking behind this. Is this really an exclusive that people in general are going to be impressed by? I can see the ad now... "Introducing the HTC One, now finally available on Verizon with the NEWEST, er... SECOND NEWEST version of Android!"

4.3 for US pushed back

The US carrier variants will not be receiving the 4.3 update this month. While they haven't confirmed that it won't be receiving it this month, they said that ONLY THE DEVELOPER EDITION would be getting it this week.
http://phandroid.com/2013/09/23/android-43-htc-one-developer-edition/
What do you guys think?
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syed239 said:
The US carrier variants will not be receiving the 4.3 update this month. While they haven't confirmed that it won't be receiving it this month, they said that ONLY THE DEVELOPER EDITION would be getting it this week.
http://phandroid.com/2013/09/23/android-43-htc-one-developer-edition/
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I think they September fooled us they should of said that in the first place instead of getting people excited for 4.3 for this month. Guess we have to wait till the end of the year or probably next year lost hope for updates on this phone no 4.2 and probably not 4.3 either once 4.4 is released they would want to skip 4.3 a go for 4.4 who knows hahaa... this is just funny in my opinion :laugh:

I kinda figured it out that we weren't getting it because of the Max being released with it and it's bad marketing strategy to give it to an older phone at the same time. I'm estimating three months at least, sad to say. :'(
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Check out @jasonmacHTC's Tweet: https://twitter.com/JasonMacHTC/status/382228249151287296
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One mans opinion here. Bottom line, HTC and Sprint dont like us here at XDA. We take what they release and make it better and it pi$$es them off because it nakes em look bad.They know if they promise an update release that developement will slow down due to our devs waiting on that release. I dont think it has anythung to do with marketing strategies or anything else. The just hold back to keep us in limbo. Appreciate it or disguard it, its just my opinion.
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If you're going to announce an update, you best make damn sure you're releasing it on time. I can't believe I keep eating up this sh*t. Checking xda everyday... God, I wish I could use the next nexus on sprint...
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Quick crying people. I'm sure it will be here soon. Not next year, not 3 months lol

Why is it one of the most popular flagship devices is so far behind others and dated phones for updates in the U. S.
You can try and blame it on sprint but as it stands it's all carriers in US so I say the blame goes to HTC for dragging feet. Kitkat will be out before we see 4.3, great way to go on a flagship device HTC
On a flagship one would think they wouldn't skip other updates like 4.2, which would have made the transition to 4.3 seem less timely.
I hate it when company's announce releases and can't make the date, why announce if you know chances are slim? HTC can suck it!!!!

fr0st420 said:
Quick crying people. I'm sure it will be here soon. Not next year, not 3 months lol
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I'll go ahead and say that since they fooled us with "by the end of September" and then clarified on which version of the phone they were releasing it on, we probably won't see it until end of November, possibly December.

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Quick crying people. I'm sure it will be here soon. Not next year, not 3 months lol
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Ya it's odd people are pissed when they spend 700 on of the most popular phones and it see an updates 6 months after release and the new Kitkat gets released before the flagship phone. Especially with phone technology when 6-12 months and the phone is almost outdated anyways lol.
It's not like they announced by September's end for all us carriers by end of September. Am sure some purchased the one based on that statement too.

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One mans opinion here. Bottom line, HTC and Sprint dont like us here at XDA. We take what they release and make it better and it pi$$es them off because it nakes em look bad.They know if they promise an update release that developement will slow down due to our devs waiting on that release. I dont think it has anythung to do with marketing strategies or anything else. The just hold back to keep us in limbo. Appreciate it or disguard it, its just my opinion.
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There's a little flaw in your reasoning though. The number of Sprint One owners on here deving or just unlocking and customizing thier phones is very small when compared to the number of GSM One users. They are worldwide. If HTC were so mad about the dev community then they would stick them without the update.
The number of people on XDA relative the number of people using phones is very small. Maybe 1% of total HTC One owners worldwide come onto XDA.
The total number of Ones sold worldwide is more than 5 million (as of May 2013). According to the XDA forum there are 2.5 million registered users on XDA and the most ever on at one time is just 95,000. That is people for all phone models. I always think it seems like everyone is flashing thier phone and playing around like me, but the reality is very few do it. Almost to the point that the OEMs don't pay a whole lot of attention to the dev community.

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Ya it's odd people are pissed when they spend 700 on of the most popular phones and it see an updates 6 months after release and the new Kitkat gets released before the flagship phone. Especially with phone technology when 6-12 months and the phone is almost outdated anyways lol.
It's not like they announced by September's end for all us carriers by end of September. Am sure some purchased the one based on that statement too.
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Nature is spot on with his statement. Granted, I have patience, and I understand that I will have to wait longer, but coming on Twitter and saying they're working on getting certifications from carriers to release this update before the end of September, then tell us at the end of September that a non carrier branded One is getting the update is pretty much a slap in the face. And if they're waiting for certifications from ALL of the carriers before releasing it, that's just dumb as well. They should've been working on this a long time ago. We're on 4.1.2, and 4.4 is going to be released before we get it. This pretty much means that we will once again have a phone that DOES NOT have the latest version of Android.

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There's a little flaw in your reasoning though. The number of Sprint One owners on here deving or just unlocking and customizing thier phones is very small when compared to the number of GSM One users. They are worldwide. If HTC were so mad about the dev community then they would stick them without the update.
The number of people on XDA relative the number of people using phones is very small. Maybe 1% of total HTC One owners worldwide come onto XDA.
The total number of Ones sold worldwide is more than 5 million (as of May 2013). According to the XDA forum there are 2.5 million registered users on XDA and the most ever on at one time is just 95,000. That is people for all phone models. I always think it seems like everyone is flashing thier phone and playing around like me, but the reality is very few do it. Almost to the point that the OEMs don't pay a whole lot of attention to the dev community.
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Thank you for the input on that, very valid points you made there. I wasnt just speaking for the 0ne tho, i was refering to the community as a whole. I should probably been more distinct about that. Thanks
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I already said fk it and installed latest cm 10.2 nightly I don't care anymore lol
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Lets just hope for a port from the DE HTC One.
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I think HTC has more pressing matters right now with the Nokia patent infringement lawsuit. They have struggled to gain market share, and this certainly won't help.

eXplicit815 said:
Nature is spot on with his statement. Granted, I have patience, and I understand that I will have to wait longer, but coming on Twitter and saying they're working on getting certifications from carriers to release this update before the end of September, then tell us at the end of September that a non carrier branded One is getting the update is pretty much a slap in the face. And if they're waiting for certifications from ALL of the carriers before releasing it, that's just dumb as well. They should've been working on this a long time ago. We're on 4.1.2, and 4.4 is going to be released before we get it. This pretty much means that we will once again have a phone that DOES NOT have the latest version of Android.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45741479#post45741479
Irony. Basically calling someone a hypocrite for complaining about slow updates then assuming they would praise it once released, then turn around and complain about it yourself. You're awesome! :good::good:

unlocking
HTC may not give all everyone wants when they want it. I agree this sucks. I am as impatient as anyone. At least they don't make their phone turn off the camera if you unlock it like Sony does. Of all the major manufacturers isn't HTC the most liberal with their products? FYI ,some years ago I was told (in a phone conversation) by a VP of HTC that their engineers are on XDA every day. They know how we feel. Keep in mind that they sell phones not updates. They have to think with 5 million in sales the ONE will sell just like it is. Now they are making new models to sell. I saw the ONE on sale yesterday on Amazon for .01cent. Most people don't have an idea about software in their phones. Look at the idiots waiting in line all night for an I Phone when we know the ONE is a better phone. How many software updates does Apple put out in a year?

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45741479#post45741479
Irony. Basically calling someone a hypocrite for complaining about slow updates then assuming they would praise it once released, then turn around and complain about it yourself. You're awesome! :good::good:
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I'm not complaining. I'm stating an opinion on the misleading statement. I have patience and can wait, that's not a problem. If you notice, the people who are really complaining are those who are saying "Well, this will be my last HTC device" or "Samsung, here I come." But as soon as they get the update, it's a 180. I'm staying with HTC regardless.

Im upset because the misleading statements that were made and because a HTC rep that comes in to work straight lied to my face. The phone is a amazing phone as is the update is just an extra I bought this phone as is and will continue to praise HTC for the good work they did but making empty promises won't get them ahead.
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4.4 kitkat!!!

So I was in bestbuy today checking out a few cases and the galaxy gear in the new samsung section that they have and the samsung rep was telling me that we are getting kitkat in 2 to 3 months. I honestly dont know if this is true or not but I wanted to post and ask if anyone else has heard anything like that.
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1) Never listen to any BestBuy Employee
2) KitKat 4.4 has been confirmed for the i-9500 [maybe i9505 same time] with a January time frame.

Warboy said:
1) Never listen to any BestBuy Employee
2) KitKat 4.4 has been confirmed for the i-9500 [maybe i9505 same time] with a January time frame.
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Well, being the end of November, January is only just more than a month away

Probably february..Right now stock rooted mja with wifi fix. Everything good..
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Unconfirmed leaks on other sites have it pegged for carrier release in January. Plus time for them to add their BS and we're looking at late February at the earliest.
But don't get too excited about it. The devices that have received it are all missing various features. Some don't have the transparent navigation bar, nobody's getting the Experience Launcher, etc. Makes it sound more like an incremental update than anything groundbreaking.
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Expect a wait as always for updates, but you never really know an exact date this early on :/

Yea I would rather the update come at a later date and be packed with kitkat goodies rather than thrown together and not get the true kitkat experience
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mderuelle said:
Yea I would rather the update come at a later date and be packed with kitkat goodies rather than thrown together and not get the true kitkat experience
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You do realize it's not gonna be a "true KitKat experience" because we don't have a Nexus device, and Samsung will throw their "stuff" over pure vanilla Android (KitKat).

Joe0113 said:
You do realize it's not gonna be a "true KitKat experience" because we don't have a Nexus device, and Samsung will throw their "stuff" over pure vanilla Android (KitKat).
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This is what has me excited. Pure vanilla Android is ugly and devoid of features. Adding Samsung's features is what makes Android at this point. Looking at KiKat on a nexus has me patiently waiting for KitKat to drop on my S4 with all the Samsung additives. Thanks God for the additives.
And Samsung reps are not BestBuy employees. At least that's how I understand it. They do not work for BestBuy but Samsung.

eskomo said:
And Samsung reps are not BestBuy employees. At least that's how I understand it. They do not work for BestBuy but Samsung.
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That may be true. But the chances of them knowing their ass from a hole in the wall are still zero.
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I am a Low Voltage Technician and Merchandising Specialist (during downtimes from remodels) for Best Buy, came from Computers and Wireless/BBY Mobile. I use a cheat sheet, but I can tell my ass from a hole in the wall.
Oh, I've also never had a problem staying up to date on current device and technology offerings. Though I'm not sure of the correlation.
Samsung Specialists do, indeed, work for Samsung, they are not ours. Similar to Apple Solutions Consultants.

JD1zzle said:
I am a Low Voltage Technician and Merchandising Specialist (during downtimes from remodels) for Best Buy, came from Computers and Wireless/BBY Mobile. I use a cheat sheet, but I can tell my ass from a hole in the wall.
Oh, I've also never had a problem staying up to date on current device and technology offerings. Though I'm not sure of the correlation.
Samsung Specialists do, indeed, work for Samsung, they are not ours. Similar to Apple Solutions Consultants.
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An excellent comeback sir :good:

This is a good sign.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/5...oogle-playedition-android44-kitkat-update.htm

chadharrop said:
This is a good sign.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/5...oogle-playedition-android44-kitkat-update.htm
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Not really. GPe editions have nothing to do with carrier phones. Be nice if we could flash a GPe rom on our phones though.

frostedunit said:
That may be true. But the chances of them knowing their ass from a hole in the wall are still zero.
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I could say the same for 90% of the people on these forums. A hand full of people actually know how to use the phone and the rest just ride the "struggle bus"™ all day.

eskomo said:
I could say the same for 90% of the people on these forums. A hand full of people actually know how to use the phone and the rest just ride the "struggle bus"™ all day.
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True. But the vast majority of users here don't get paid to sell electronics. Too many Sprint, Samsung, Verizon, Best Buy, Radio Shack, etc, etc "reps" don't know much about the products they sell.
Ever go to one of those places and know more about their products than they do? Most frustrating thing ever. If they don't know about their own products, how the heck are they going to know about OTA dates?
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frostedunit said:
Ever go to one of those places and know more about their products than they do? Most frustrating thing ever. If they don't know about their own products, how the heck are they going to know about OTA dates?
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It's more like, have you ever gone into one of those places and not known more than they do? I've yet to find any best buy or sprint store employee that knew more than me.
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Good on ya!
JD1zzle said:
I am a Low Voltage Technician and Merchandising Specialist (during downtimes from remodels) for Best Buy, came from Computers and Wireless/BBY Mobile. I use a cheat sheet, but I can tell my ass from a hole in the wall.
Oh, I've also never had a problem staying up to date on current device and technology offerings. Though I'm not sure of the correlation.
Samsung Specialists do, indeed, work for Samsung, they are not ours. Similar to Apple Solutions Consultants.
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Bravo!! Clearly you received the revised cheat sheet.

Do you have a link on how to root sprint version with 4.3 official ota
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kegar said:
Do you have a link on how to root sprint version with 4.3 official ota
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Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47100455
Reminder a little search will get you what you need..
GS4 Stock Rooted MJA 4.3,Philz Touch CWM,HotSpot Mod,Transparent Weather Widget...

Android Kitkat 4.4

I thought I'd share this. It's from Asus customer support.
After consulting related department in TW, up till now, they still have no schedule for next update but they do have the plan to update it.
We will transfer customers' wishes to them for further development.
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Unlocking is coming

issawillwin said:
Unlocking is coming
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I will .. after my warranties goes out... be using custom ROMs for sure (I was happy to see that someone builded/ported AOKP). But I am bit disappointed from Asus and their lack of communications on that matter.

Technojo said:
I will .. after my warranties goes out... be using custom ROMs for sure (I was happy to see that someone builded/ported AOKP). But I am bit disappointed from Asus and their lack of communications on that matter.
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at least you got a tablet mine has been in asus repair centre 2 months now. they had it more than i have.
Never buying asus again.
bought in nov resetting and other random issues update didn`t fix sent away. 1 month comes back now it`s worse. send it back sd card issue keeps remounting every 30 secs send back. they deny they can replicate issue even with vid i sent them. (apparently they were being kind and didn`t charge me labor fee for looking at tablet to find no fault.)
Got tablet back tried 4 diff sd cards diff sizes format all same issue recorded. whole thing sent back now they admit issue and will fix (1 month to get that far).
however the reset issue and garbled screen also recorded is not replicate-able. ..... 3 weeks latter they still have it and can never answer my question about wtf is going on and refuse to just swap it over with a new one.
so i have had tablet about 3 months they had it 5 months mind my french but fu ck ing useless service. it will be out of warranty before i use the damn thing.
what annoys me the most is this was bought specifically for on the go as i run my business remotely and am an avid bike user so carting around a crazy heavy laptop annoys the **** out of me.
Anyway lesson learnt don`t buy asus because if you get a **** one it will never get back to you working.

Technojo said:
I thought I'd share this. It's from Asus customer support.
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Maybe we should keep bugging them until they release an update.

cecilyen said:
Maybe we should keep bugging them until they release an update.
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:good: