Hello!
At the moment, I own an LG Nexus 4 but I think it's time to move on. The Nexus 5 isn't very attractive to me and the Bamboo Moto X really tickles my fancy. My wife has a Moto X and it's so smooth, but I only have one concern. The screen has this yellow-ish tint to it. Yes yes I know that it's AMOLED, but on my old AMOLED device I had the ability to switch colors (Galaxy SIII). On the Nexus 4 also, but I wanted to know if there's any possible way I can tweak the colors on this device. That yellow tint just bothers me, especially when opening Chrome, I could get used to it, but I plan on rooting my Moto X and I was just curious if anyone is aware of methods to change the screen colors to be, you know, not so warm.
No yellowish tint here. My RAZR seemed to have a slightly yellowish tint but this one seems more reminiscent of my GNex which was a much cooler tint where greys looked purple at certain brightness settings.
Generally I believe to alter the screen colors requires a custom kernel. Faux and I *think* lean kernel had that ability on the GNex. There's only one custom kernel for the MX and I don't think it allows you to alter the screen tint.
I'm not sure, but maybe the optimization of the cores and low power cores is keeping developers from producing custom kernels, but that's just a guess.
Coming myself from a Nexus 4 I did immediately notice the different hues in the screen color, and I wasn't such a fan of it, but after a week I found that I actually prefer the AMOLED display of the Moto X. I understand your concern, however I don't notice any yellow tinge to the screen.
Overall the AMOLED screen truly is beautiful so I don't think you need to worry too much. The contrast and the darks look amazing. Obviously not 1080p but amazing none the less.
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First off, I find the MotoX to have the best calibrated AMOLED manufactured screen I've seen. The yellow you're talking about, unless your wife phone have a poorly calibrated one, I find mine to be very close to 6500K in temperature, this is the ideal value. The white level is very good , just slightly warm. I also like that the screen is only a little saturated and not over blown like other AMOLED screens making them totally unrealistic.
If you are used to blue tint displays, that is not the correct color calibration, but you can find that in a lot of LCD type screens.
As for tweaking the display colors, you're going to have to hope for something like a Faux kernel, I'm not sure it's going to happen. Seems like the Moto G is much more developer friendly.
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I noticed this as well, I have a G2 with an LCD and compared it to the Moto X and while my G2 had white whites, the Moto X had yellow whites. If there is no way to fix it, I'm hoping that I'll slowly adjust to it.
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Hi all, until yesterday I was really happy with my moto x since everything was working fine and I haven't had any problem at all with my phone running official Android 4.4 kitkat, BUT yesterday one of my coworkers bought himself a moto x just like mine and I was just explaining some things about the phone to him until at one point both phones were side by side and we opened Google.com website on the chrome browser and I noticed that my screen looked yellowish compared to his when displaying a white background like on google.com website.
The thing is that I set the brightness of both moto x to the maximum and still when both phones were side to side showing a white background my screen looked more yellow than his, the "whites" on his screen seems more bright and white than mine.
So, my question is if anyone here has the opportunity to have 2 moto x compared side by side, can you please open google.com website (or any white image) and tell me if the screen on one of the moto x looks more yellow than the screen on the other moto x?
Cause I need to know if this is maybe a common thing that can happen because not all the displays are exactly the same or if maybe my phone is faulty and I need to take it to the service.
And if you happen to have 2 moto x 's screens compared side by side with a white background, can you please be so kind to upload a picture here so I can see it?
Thanks a lot in advance for the help!
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It is normal screen variation. I have two Moto X's here and one has the more yellow screen. for some stuff it looks very nice, for other stuff I prefer the less yellow one. I do find the color saturation is not as pronounced with the yellowish screen version which could be a plus. I have compared 4 phones total and only one has had the more yellow screen.
Lol. You were happy until you compared to another x. What is the big deal? Oled is like in its 3rd or 4th gen iteration and there is still a big disparity in display. If it really bothers you that much stay away from oled. Its reason like this oled prices will be artificially high.
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Lol. You were happy until you compared to another x. What is the big deal? Oled is like in its 3rd or 4th gen iteration and there is still a big disparity in display. If it really bothers you that much stay away from oled. Its reason like this oled prices will be artificially high.
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I fail to see your point. I just got done RMA'ing two nexus 5 phones and one screen was very yellow on white screens while the other, while still warm, was whiter. So it's not just with oled screens. It's annoying to me that most screens are a lottery and it's not fair to the customer. I would be unhappy about this too
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Steve-x said:
It is normal screen variation. I have two Moto X's here and one has the more yellow screen. for some stuff it looks very nice, for other stuff I prefer the less yellow one. I do find the color saturation is not as pronounced with the yellowish screen version which could be a plus. I have compared 4 phones total and only one has had the more yellow screen.
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Ok, thanks for your answer! It's not that I'm unhappy with it, in fact I didn't noticed this until I compared mine with the other moto x from my coworker, and it's only noticeable with white backgrounds like I said.
I just wanted to know if my phone was actually faulty because of this or if this kind of things are normal and that on the same phone model the screen differs on the white calibration or something that makes some of them more yellowish than the others..
Since you have 2 moto x, Can you please when you have the time upload a picture of the 2 of them side by side with a white background so I can see how much do they differ?
Thanks a lot in advance!
PS: so in your opinion for some stuff you prefer the yellowing screen and for some others the whiter one? That's interesting...
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There is variation in between screens. We are getting consumer grade stuff. I am willing to be the Korean and exynos models of note3 have a lot less variation and higher binned screens. My exynos note2 screen is still fantastic to this day and makes me hesitant to sell it. My note3 has some very minor flaws but it doesn't bother me. My glaxy nexus was pretty good but yellow. My sisters galaxy nexus was two toned. Brighter on top than bottom. Also was darker overall. My nexus one looked great besides the awful and I mean awful over saturation. I would consider two tone screens that are noticeable on any type of contrast being displayed or stripes or smudges that are noticeable on non display/test calibration type stuff to be defective. My note 3 is much whiter than my note2. My note2 definitely has a yellowish tinge to it but it also much brighter and the auto brightness limiter is less noticeable on note2. It is definitely a YMMV.
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My Moto X screen looks too yellowish compared to other LCD display phones like Nexus, iPhone's etc. Is it the issue with Moto X's Amoled display or something is wrong with my device?
What you're noticing is just the inherent difference in color reproduction between AMOLED and IPS displays. Most IPS displays have cooler color temperatures and do a better job at producing a true white although with less color saturation.
That being said, I have gone though 2 Moto Xs and the first one came with a very poorly calibrated display and a gross greenish tint. My second one was much better, but I returned it for other reasons, future burn in being one of them. Burn in is different from the problem you're seeing and can best be described as bad tan lines. Some areas of the screen will have different brightness (mostly the nav and notification areas) and it will be obvious when you switch to landscape mode that something isn't right.
If you think something is wrong with your screen and still have a valid warranty, give Motorola a call and let them know about it. They seem to be pretty good about making things right.
No screen burn for me... Had the phone since January and mostly a heavy user too. Maybe no burn because I keep the brightness level down most of the time?
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No screen burn for me... Had the phone since January and mostly a heavy user too. Maybe no burn because I keep the brightness level down most of the time?
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Frankly, it's just a case of not taking care of the fact that we're using OLED tech which is sensitive to static images much like Plasma tech. If you're on Kitkat and use transparent bars like most of us: I can't imagine how anyone could suffer from burn-in that won't go away with time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fyi-dim-screen-moto-white-glove-t2753559
But I did not keep it long enough to notice burn.
No burn in here, but I use fullscreen so I don't have a notification or navigation bar.
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What you're noticing is just the inherent difference in color reproduction between AMOLED and IPS displays. Most IPS displays have cooler color temperatures and do a better job at producing a true white although with less color saturation.
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This is absolutely wrong, no offence. IPS displays do not have any cooler colour temperature! They are less saturated than AMOLED displays mostly, and thus the colours look less vibrant, or more accurate if you will. At the same time they will look extremely dull / pale. If possible just look at the S5's display, it has the best white I have seen in a while, neither yellowish or bluish, near perfect.
And yes, I agree with OP, there is a slight Yellowish tint on mine. This reminds me of the the Galaxy S2's display panel. There is nothing you can do other than getting adjusted with it, but you can try increasing the Blue bias of the screen, to something like +3 or +4. There is an app called Screen Adjuster on Google Play to do that. I am using that now, never thought I would have to use it again since S2 days. By increasing the Blue bias the screen will look little "cooler", the Yellowish white will become Bluish white.
This has nothing to do with burn in by the way.
I should have been more clear about that. It's the backlight source that affects color temp the most. Since most IPS displays use white LEDs for backlighting they appear cooler than many (not all) AMOLED panels and older TN displays using CCFLs. Since the individual pixels are their own backlight with AMOLED there is more variability in color reproduction depending on use and calibration.
And it does have something to do with burn-in. If you have a mostly blue background then those subpixels will see more use than the red and green subpixels. Once the blue subpixels fade enough you're left with a yellow tinted screen. It's not burn-in in the traditional CRT sense, but it's still uneven wear. IMO: The small perks of Active Display are not worth having a screen that can be damaged by normal use.
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I called up Motorola customer care and they asked me to visit nearest service center. They will have a look and decide if anything is wrong in the device. So, this yellowish tint is bit common in Moto X due to AMOLED screen.
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I called up Motorola customer care and they asked me to visit nearest service center. They will have a look and decide if anything is wrong in the device. So, this yellowish tint is bit common in Moto X due to AMOLED screen.
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It can be. There's a member around who got like 4 replacements or something....all with different degrees of it.
I find you don't notice it after a bit.... Unless you put 2 phones side by side.
Personally it doesn't bother me....it would if it was too yellow. I find the dimmer the screen, the more you notice it also.
My first moto x I had since October got burn in around January. I got a new one in June and I have burn in again. It isn't enough to warrant another replacement (yet).
Can someone explain to me how this phone suffers burn in? Burn in is a thing from old CRT televisions, not really the new LED screens (at least, to my knowledge)
i've always used gravitybox to give the statusbar a grayish color instead of black (and here lately the tinted statusbar xposed module) and keep it in expanded desktop with pie controls, so there's no nav bar, and not seeing any burn issues yet, had it since Dec. the horrifically bad burn in on my note 2 is what made me want to be extra careful with the x.
No burn in here after 7 months on mine nor my sister's Moto X.
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Can someone explain to me how this phone suffers burn in? Burn in is a thing from old CRT televisions, not really the new LED screens (at least, to my knowledge)
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Burn in is common in amoled type displays, specifically on phones such that rely on a nav bar instead of capacitive buttons. The longer the screen is on, or the higher the brightness, the bigger the possibility for screen burn in . Out of the three amoled phones I have owned, the two that have burnt in both had on screen nav bars. I hope this (non technical) summary helps
I'm a bit hesitant to return to an AMOLED screen, but I've heard they've been much improved upon over the last couple years. Reviewers have so far gushed over the new Moto x screen. But, comparison shots where the X is placed next to screens of other top devices shows that the whites are "off". I'm not so concerned about somewhat oversaturated colors, but it's always the whites that bother me the most.
Is it possible for a kernel dev to come along and allow for the possibility to tune the color temperature, as has been done with other devices with IPS LCD screens? Or, is there something with an AMOLED that would make this impossible to do?
This will get better over time as blue degrades faster over time than red and green
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I'm planning to get the 64GB Blue Nexus 6 and i have a few questions before i buy:
I heard that the AMOLED Screen have some issues like burns on the screen. Is that true?
Also i heard about "pink" issues with brightness. This is true also?
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I'm planning to get the 64GB Blue Nexus 6 and i have a few questions before i buy:
I heard that the AMOLED Screen have some issues like burns on the screen. Is that true?
Also i heard about "pink" issues with brightness. This is true also?
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Both are true.. But I don't have any issues on my device..
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Both are true.. But I don't have any issues on my device..
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I saw some videos on youtube and they said inverting colors from time to time for a certin amount of time helps. This is true?
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I saw some videos on youtube and they said inverting colors from time to time for a certin amount of time helps. This is true?
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Also true..
Svid said:
Hi,
I'm planning to get the 64GB Blue Nexus 6 and i have a few questions before i buy:
I heard that the AMOLED Screen have some issues like burns on the screen. Is that true?
Also i heard about "pink" issues with brightness. This is true also?
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The at&t variant I personally own never gave me these issues. I have read the pink tint issues were associated with the adaptive /automatic brightness enabled?! Yet, on mine I saw no pink with it enabled or disabled.
And there are videos on YT showing burn in. It is basically the soft keys at the bottom. Triangle, circle, and the square are the culprits. But again no issues for me.
Now the very 1st day my phone did a random reboot on me - twice! But, as soon as I unlocked bootloader, rooted it, and used a custom recovery the reboots never surfaced again! Go figure?! And the nexus 6 is definately the fastest performing phone I owned yet
Svid said:
Hi,
I'm planning to get the 64GB Blue Nexus 6 and i have a few questions before i buy:
I heard that the AMOLED Screen have some issues like burns on the screen. Is that true?
Also i heard about "pink" issues with brightness. This is true also?
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AMOLED's can all have that issue, but I personally have never seen it happen (I have had a gnex for almost 2 years which used AMOLED and doesn't have burn-in). The pink "issue" isn't really an issue, google allowed the screen brightness to go extremely dark on the N6. This causes the screen to take on a pink tint simply due to the way amoled's function at that low a brightness. The screen does have a warmer hue to it as well because it is AMOLED, but you can use a custom kernel to tweak RGB values and give the screen a cooler tint. Hope that helps
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AMOLED's can all have that issue, but I personally have never seen it happen (I have had a gnex for almost 2 years which used AMOLED and doesn't have burn-in). The pink "issue" isn't really an issue, google allowed the screen brightness to go extremely dark on the N6. This causes the screen to take on a pink tint simply due to the way amoled's function at that low a brightness. The screen does have a warmer hue to it as well because it is AMOLED, but you can use a custom kernel to tweak RGB values and give the screen a cooler tint. Hope that helps
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Thank you for that useful information mate.
So, all AMOLED's, regardless if it's the N6 or not, suffer from this issue?
Svid said:
Thank you for that useful information mate.
So, all AMOLED's, regardless if it's the N6 or not, suffer from this issue?
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That is correct, all AMOLED's are susceptible to this because of the O in AMOLED, which stands for Organic. The organic compounds that are used in these screens are susceptible to burn in due to the fact that the organic compounds degrade with a lot of use. Of the RGB subpixels, Blue subpixels degrade quickest. However, the N6 uses a Pentile pixel arrangement. This has upsides and downsides, but it is actually an upside as far as this issue is concerned, because the Pentile layout contains less blue subpixels, so there is less susceptibility to burn in.
If you want to combat this issue further, you can use blacked out google apps, and use ROM's with blacked out system options, use a mostly black wallpaper, etc. This is because on an AMOLED screen when the screen is black, the pixels are not displaying any light and thus are not degrading at all. This should reduce your chances of running into the issue. It will also save battery life since the screen is not using as much energy. That is one of the upsides to AMOLED screens, along with the very dark blacks you get in movies and games for the same reason (pixels are not lighting at all). Like I said, I've used other AMOLED screens and not run into this problem as of yet, to my understanding it should take years before you start to see burn in even with normal use. Some people say they have issues right away but that has not been my experience.
All screens of any technology are correctly color calibrated at a given brightness and are very far off at extremes. With an LCD, it will generally be too blue at high brightness and not blue enough at low brightness. That is because the backlights are never a 6500K source. They are basically always bluer than standard.
The Note 4, to pick an AMOLED example, does not get red at very low brightness, but that is because it (according to others) has a higher minimum brightness. My screen takes on a red tint when in a dark room with adaptive brightness enabled if I have the brightness slider set below about 30%. I consider this a handy feature since I don't like the feeling of staring into a light bulb.
Above about 30%, or in a room with a light on, the screen stays normal for me.
I have not seen thecpink issue on my N6 at all.
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That is correct, all AMOLED's are susceptible to this because of the O in AMOLED, which stands for Organic. The organic compounds that are used in these screens are susceptible to burn in due to the fact that the organic compounds degrade with a lot of use. Of the RGB subpixels, Blue subpixels degrade quickest. However, the N6 uses a Pentile pixel arrangement. This has upsides and downsides, but it is actually an upside as far as this issue is concerned, because the Pentile layout contains less blue subpixels, so there is less susceptibility to burn in.
If you want to combat this issue further, you can use blacked out google apps, and use ROM's with blacked out system options, use a mostly black wallpaper, etc. This is because on an AMOLED screen when the screen is black, the pixels are not displaying any light and thus are not degrading at all. This should reduce your chances of running into the issue. It will also save battery life since the screen is not using as much energy. That is one of the upsides to AMOLED screens, along with the very dark blacks you get in movies and games for the same reason (pixels are not lighting at all). Like I said, I've used other AMOLED screens and not run into this problem as of yet, to my understanding it should take years before you start to see burn in even with normal use. Some people say they have issues right away but that has not been my experience.
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Not sure about the bottom paragraph, surely you mean inverted colours? Also If you use a mostly black wallpaper you're more likely go get burn in because the pixels around navigation buttons aren't on at all and are thus not degrading whilst the navigation buttons are fully on and are degrading.
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Not sure about the bottom paragraph, surely you mean inverted colours? Also If you use a mostly black wallpaper you're more likely go get burn in because the pixels around navigation buttons aren't on at all and are thus not degrading whilst the navigation buttons are fully on and are degrading.
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Inverted, blacked out, I don't think there's a difference. The button icons themselves will eventually burn in because they are almost always on unless you opt for pie like controls, but like I said that should be over a span of years. A black background will keep everything else from wearing faster though and should give you better battery performance.
I have had the phone for a week now and have not seen either of these issues. I do keep my screen fairly dim, like minimum brightness PLUS a screen dimmer for the nights and early mornings. I do not see any pink what so ever with adaptive brightness off and the minimum setting for brightness. I only turn the screen up when outdoors. I don't know I just find the screen really bright while indoors and I would assume burn in would be more susceptible with higher brightness
So i can safely buy the device right?
Anyway i have to order the phone overseas (No 64GB avalible in my country and the price tag too high anyway).
well, someone told me and its true!
the Maxx / Droid screen is yellow if compared to others screens like Sony Z3...
there's an app that fix it, but when the app is running, you cannot install any apk file!! thats a shame!!
there's a way to fix that yellow tint screen without an app??
What app?
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It's just how the screen on the device is man. I've had two Turbos and both have a slight yellow hue to the whites. On mine, I only notice it when directly facing he screen but if I tilt it slightly to the right or left the colors are accurate. I have completely gotten used to it now and it doesn't bother me at all which is saying something because it's all I noticed at first. Just part of having an AMOLED screen.
Droid turbo has fantastic screen and z3's cold blue whites are no match to it. Be happy with what you got instead of comparing with inferior screens. Maybe this comparison with z3c would help you notice that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5fZvENv1-Q
Only in low bright, if you install cm 12 you can play with rgb
i was thinking about edit some build.prop settings, and correct that thing!...
thats annoying haha!!
anyway thanks...