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I haven't received my Galaxy S yet but everytime I use my friend's I think the screen is just too blueish. Mostly the white parts. And I also think a "square field" is visible all over the screen. Is this because the resolution is too low compared to the size?
The phone itself is great so I still want it, but I'm afraid the screen will make me disapointed, especially since I've read so much about the Super AMOLED is so great.
Are all Galaxy S' screens like this?
What is the "square field"? please explain better.
And let's start from clearing the point of resolution/size-
800X480 is more than enough to go up to 7". If anything, it might be the pentile matrix that the screen uses.
I guess it's these "squares" I see: http://www.engadget.com/photos/iphone-4-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-display-face-off/#3115591
You're probably right that it's more the pentile matrix I notice more than lack of resolution.
I cant understand why many reviews says this screen is very good when it's very noticable.
I've seen mentions of different Galaxy S phones having different colour temperatures, though mine seems fairly cool.
PenTile does, unfortunately, make text less sharp, and there is a bit of a screen-door effect (I think that's the term you're looking for). It's a tradeoff for having a Super AMOLED screen - excellent contrast and very bright, but not as good as a TFT for text. I've become accustomed to it though, despite my misgivings (but a non-PenTile SAMOLED really would be the best screen without question).
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I've seen mentions of different Galaxy S phones having different colour temperatures, though mine seems fairly cool.
PenTile does, unfortunately, make text less sharp, and there is a bit of a screen-door effect (I think that's the term you're looking for). It's a tradeoff for having a Super AMOLED screen - excellent contrast and very bright, but not as good as a TFT for text. I've become accustomed to it though, despite my misgivings (but a non-PenTile SAMOLED really would be the best screen without question).
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What's the good side with PenTile? And yes, I've searched for "screen-door effect" and it seems as if that is what I'm seeing.
Yes, Galaxy S display seems to have quite high colour temperature. You can sort of calibrate it using the calibration app that was developed for Nexus One a while ago and is now part of CM6, but you have to run Froyo, install it manually and lose video overlay, so it's not really usable right now. Nevertheless I've managed to calibrate my SGS to more or less 6500K using it.
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Yes, Galaxy S display seems to have quite high colour temperature. You can sort of calibrate it using the calibration app that was developed for Nexus One a while ago and is now part of CM6, but you have to run Froyo, install it manually and lose video overlay, so it's not really usable right now. Nevertheless I've managed to calibrate my SGS to more or less 6500K using it.
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What is the downside of losing video overlay?
Not being able to play back videos and shoot pictures and videos Or, to be precise - you can do all of that, but all you see is white screen
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Not being able to play back videos and shoot pictures and videos Or, to be precise - you can do all of that, but all you see is white screen
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Oh. Well, guess I'm not going with that solution then
But since it can be done through software, does it mean that Samsung could make an update and fix this?
I had this on my old galaxy S and coming from the x10's tft it was painfully obvious the white colour had a blue/green tint to it. I then got it replaced and the tint was still there but not so obvious. Now after a while the white colour looks perfect white. I think my eyes have adjusted or something.
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I had this on my old galaxy S and coming from the x10's tft it was painfully obvious the white colour had a blue/green tint to it. I then got it replaced and the tint was still there but not so obvious now after a while the white colour looks perfect white. I think my eyes have adjusted or something.
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Ok, guess I'll have to wait until I get my before I know how bad it is.
My friend got a blueish Galaxy S I9000. Mine isnt that much!! Next to his looks like mine is Redish, but mine next to my Monitor looks blueish! I believe some Screens have more blue tint than others
Mine is very white. Put the phone on a white screen (using a screen torch app) and the screen looks whiter than a piece of white paper.
Hey all, keep us updated if there's any application that can change the color temperature without affecting the functionality.
I got the phone a few days ago and my friend's is defenitly more blueish than mine. I dont notice the screen-door effect anymore so I'm very very happy with it.
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I´ve read something on a German Mobile Phone Review Site (don´t know the which one it was now) and they said, that this is normal, because of the AMOLED Tecnology. They said that the Colors will loose the intensity over the years and as blue is the most energetic Color in the spectrum it looses faster the intensity. That is why it looks now maybe a little bit diferent. After a while it should normalise, because it was planned by the manufactures.
Ok found the Site. Heres the translation:
Higher blue components of the display of the Galaxy S may have been deliberately created by Samsung with the idea that the blue OLEDs are aging much faster than green or red. After months of use should mitigate this effect and color balance to be balanced.
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But since it can be done through software, does it mean that Samsung could make an update and fix this?
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They could do that if they wanted to, yes. But don't expect them to do so, I don't think colour temperature is of any importance to them if it stays within usable range.
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Hey all, keep us updated if there's any application that can change the color temperature without affecting the functionality.
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Got this tip a while ago on some other thread - you can start Video player, play some video, go to Settings and change the Colour tone to Warm. It stays changed even when you leave the player. It's not perfect, but it helps a bit.
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I had this on my old galaxy S and coming from the x10's tft it was painfully obvious the white colour had a blue/green tint to it. I then got it replaced and the tint was still there but not so obvious. Now after a while the white colour looks perfect white. I think my eyes have adjusted or something.
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Actually, YES! Your eye do adjust to the white that you are looking at.
You've been doing this all of your life and haven't noticed it. The light in the morning is a very different color than the light at noon. In the morning, it is likely very red if the weather is good, and very white at noon... yet everything looks normal to you... because your eyes adapt to the color.
Adjusting to your screen is the same way. But compare it side by side with another screen and one or the other is going to look "wrong", usually the one you haven't been staring at all day!
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I got the phone a few days ago and my friend's is defenitly more blueish than mine. I dont notice the screen-door effect anymore so I'm very very happy with it.
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Congratulations, your brain has created a special filter, using a process called "adaption", by the human vision scientists, that blocks the screen-door effect. You didn't know it, but your brain created one years ago that blocked out the 'striped-lawn' effect caused by the columns of RGB subpixels on conventional color displays. That 'striped-lawn' effect was just as visible the first time you saw one, but that was likely many years ago.
Okay so this blue tint thing is somewhat strange, still no clear answers.
Some people are saying "this is normal for super amoleds." I have to disagree. If this was normal, then every single Super Amoled would have this blue tint. I've put my samsung galaxy s vibrant side by side next to the samsung galaxy s epic, fascinate, captivate and other vibrants. Some have a blue tint, and others don't. Others have nice rich whites, while some like mine have a blue tint.
Makes no sense, so I'm not buying the "all super amoleds have this blue tint" statement. They don't all have them!
I've used my phone for over 2 months now, and the blue tint is not fading at all. Something else people said. I don't plan to keep this phone for 10 years, waiting for the blue to fade, I want nice white now, not blue whites.
Anyone have any updates on this blue tint some galaxy s phones show?
Hi all, until yesterday I was really happy with my moto x since everything was working fine and I haven't had any problem at all with my phone running official Android 4.4 kitkat, BUT yesterday one of my coworkers bought himself a moto x just like mine and I was just explaining some things about the phone to him until at one point both phones were side by side and we opened Google.com website on the chrome browser and I noticed that my screen looked yellowish compared to his when displaying a white background like on google.com website.
The thing is that I set the brightness of both moto x to the maximum and still when both phones were side to side showing a white background my screen looked more yellow than his, the "whites" on his screen seems more bright and white than mine.
So, my question is if anyone here has the opportunity to have 2 moto x compared side by side, can you please open google.com website (or any white image) and tell me if the screen on one of the moto x looks more yellow than the screen on the other moto x?
Cause I need to know if this is maybe a common thing that can happen because not all the displays are exactly the same or if maybe my phone is faulty and I need to take it to the service.
And if you happen to have 2 moto x 's screens compared side by side with a white background, can you please be so kind to upload a picture here so I can see it?
Thanks a lot in advance for the help!
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It is normal screen variation. I have two Moto X's here and one has the more yellow screen. for some stuff it looks very nice, for other stuff I prefer the less yellow one. I do find the color saturation is not as pronounced with the yellowish screen version which could be a plus. I have compared 4 phones total and only one has had the more yellow screen.
Lol. You were happy until you compared to another x. What is the big deal? Oled is like in its 3rd or 4th gen iteration and there is still a big disparity in display. If it really bothers you that much stay away from oled. Its reason like this oled prices will be artificially high.
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Lol. You were happy until you compared to another x. What is the big deal? Oled is like in its 3rd or 4th gen iteration and there is still a big disparity in display. If it really bothers you that much stay away from oled. Its reason like this oled prices will be artificially high.
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I fail to see your point. I just got done RMA'ing two nexus 5 phones and one screen was very yellow on white screens while the other, while still warm, was whiter. So it's not just with oled screens. It's annoying to me that most screens are a lottery and it's not fair to the customer. I would be unhappy about this too
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Steve-x said:
It is normal screen variation. I have two Moto X's here and one has the more yellow screen. for some stuff it looks very nice, for other stuff I prefer the less yellow one. I do find the color saturation is not as pronounced with the yellowish screen version which could be a plus. I have compared 4 phones total and only one has had the more yellow screen.
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Ok, thanks for your answer! It's not that I'm unhappy with it, in fact I didn't noticed this until I compared mine with the other moto x from my coworker, and it's only noticeable with white backgrounds like I said.
I just wanted to know if my phone was actually faulty because of this or if this kind of things are normal and that on the same phone model the screen differs on the white calibration or something that makes some of them more yellowish than the others..
Since you have 2 moto x, Can you please when you have the time upload a picture of the 2 of them side by side with a white background so I can see how much do they differ?
Thanks a lot in advance!
PS: so in your opinion for some stuff you prefer the yellowing screen and for some others the whiter one? That's interesting...
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There is variation in between screens. We are getting consumer grade stuff. I am willing to be the Korean and exynos models of note3 have a lot less variation and higher binned screens. My exynos note2 screen is still fantastic to this day and makes me hesitant to sell it. My note3 has some very minor flaws but it doesn't bother me. My glaxy nexus was pretty good but yellow. My sisters galaxy nexus was two toned. Brighter on top than bottom. Also was darker overall. My nexus one looked great besides the awful and I mean awful over saturation. I would consider two tone screens that are noticeable on any type of contrast being displayed or stripes or smudges that are noticeable on non display/test calibration type stuff to be defective. My note 3 is much whiter than my note2. My note2 definitely has a yellowish tinge to it but it also much brighter and the auto brightness limiter is less noticeable on note2. It is definitely a YMMV.
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At the moment, I own an LG Nexus 4 but I think it's time to move on. The Nexus 5 isn't very attractive to me and the Bamboo Moto X really tickles my fancy. My wife has a Moto X and it's so smooth, but I only have one concern. The screen has this yellow-ish tint to it. Yes yes I know that it's AMOLED, but on my old AMOLED device I had the ability to switch colors (Galaxy SIII). On the Nexus 4 also, but I wanted to know if there's any possible way I can tweak the colors on this device. That yellow tint just bothers me, especially when opening Chrome, I could get used to it, but I plan on rooting my Moto X and I was just curious if anyone is aware of methods to change the screen colors to be, you know, not so warm.
No yellowish tint here. My RAZR seemed to have a slightly yellowish tint but this one seems more reminiscent of my GNex which was a much cooler tint where greys looked purple at certain brightness settings.
Generally I believe to alter the screen colors requires a custom kernel. Faux and I *think* lean kernel had that ability on the GNex. There's only one custom kernel for the MX and I don't think it allows you to alter the screen tint.
I'm not sure, but maybe the optimization of the cores and low power cores is keeping developers from producing custom kernels, but that's just a guess.
Coming myself from a Nexus 4 I did immediately notice the different hues in the screen color, and I wasn't such a fan of it, but after a week I found that I actually prefer the AMOLED display of the Moto X. I understand your concern, however I don't notice any yellow tinge to the screen.
Overall the AMOLED screen truly is beautiful so I don't think you need to worry too much. The contrast and the darks look amazing. Obviously not 1080p but amazing none the less.
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First off, I find the MotoX to have the best calibrated AMOLED manufactured screen I've seen. The yellow you're talking about, unless your wife phone have a poorly calibrated one, I find mine to be very close to 6500K in temperature, this is the ideal value. The white level is very good , just slightly warm. I also like that the screen is only a little saturated and not over blown like other AMOLED screens making them totally unrealistic.
If you are used to blue tint displays, that is not the correct color calibration, but you can find that in a lot of LCD type screens.
As for tweaking the display colors, you're going to have to hope for something like a Faux kernel, I'm not sure it's going to happen. Seems like the Moto G is much more developer friendly.
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I noticed this as well, I have a G2 with an LCD and compared it to the Moto X and while my G2 had white whites, the Moto X had yellow whites. If there is no way to fix it, I'm hoping that I'll slowly adjust to it.
After some time with the Moto X I start now to see some bad coloring on the screen I don't know how to explain but a blank page on chrome for example, I can notice little rectangles in what should be plain white like inside that rectangle color changes a little bit to a bit darker or a bit lighter compared to the rectangles around.
just I notice it ? Is it a flaw of the amoled tech or what ? (the effect is less visible with brightness on maximum and almost not visible on vibrant colors, but pretty noticeable on white and gray)
I absolutely see it, while I was browsing on Chrome today noticed it for the first time. On light background it's extremely annoying, and bad. I don't know if they are rectangles or not, but on mine there are horizontal vertical lines all over the panel. Yes it won't be visible on colourful images / background but not every background is like that, nor should be.
This is not a very good Samsung panel Moto chose here. With the kind of obsession I have about displays I don't know, this might become a deal breaker. Sad
PS : The easiest way to notice if your phone has same kind of annoyance or not is to just zoom in in a grey or white area of a webpage, keep the brightness at auto or at 50% and then fix your eye at one certain point of the X's screen and then scroll that white area of the page vertically, and keep doing that for about 15-20 seconds, it should be easily noticeable then.
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I absolutely see it, while I was browsing on Chrome today noticed it for the first time. On light background it's extremely annoying, and bad. I don't know if they are rectangles or not, but on mine there are horizontal vertical lines all over the panel. Yes it won't be visible on colourful images / background but not every background is like that, nor should be.
This is not a very good Samsung panel Moto chose here. With the kind of obsession I have about displays I don't know, this might become a deal breaker. Sad
PS : The easiest way to notice if your phone has same kind of annoyance or not is to just zoom in in a grey or white area of a webpage, keep the brightness at auto or at 50% and then fix your eye at one certain point of the X's screen and then scroll that white area of the page vertically, and keep doing that for about 15-20 seconds, it should be easily noticeable then.
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After a little research I discovered that this is a flaw of the AMOLED technology more specifically of the Pentile Matrix of Samsung's Note 2 (that is the same as in the Moto X), the effect is pretty noticeable on white/gray/light blue and dark green :/ Is just sad that Motorola chose a so poor screen tech on high end smartphone...
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After a little research I discovered that this is a flaw of the AMOLED technology more specifically of the Pentile Matrix of Samsung's Note 2 (that is the same as in the Moto X), the effect is pretty noticeable on white/gray/light blue and dark green :/ Is just sad that Motorola chose a so poor screen tech on high end smartphone...
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Well yeah. Had the Note 2 but don't really remember if it had the same problem or not. But Pentile was there on the S4 too and I am quite sure I didn't notice this on the S4, maybe because it had way better PPI, don't know.
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Well yeah. Had the Note 2 but don't really remember if it had the same problem or not. But Pentile was there on the S4 too and I am quite sure I didn't notice this on the S4, maybe because it had way better PPI, don't know.
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Check here: Page five of anandtech's review of the Moto X (I can't post any links sry)
Note 2 and the Moto X are exactly the same with non symmetrical pixels (both have the issues that we are talking about), the S4 has symmetrical pixels, might explain why it does not have.
Anyone else's display seem to have a yellowish tint? Mine seems very yellow looking at it straight on. But when I look at it angled either from the bottom or top it looks perfectly white with just a slight bluish tint. Either way it looks much better than yellow.
So what I'm trying to figure out is of I got a bad unit and if I should go get a new one. Only reason I am even considering not exchanging is the whole "scratchgate" bs.
Anyone care to weigh in?
BTW I have the 64gb black.
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Comparing mine next to my LG g3 I noticed a yellow tint as well. Not a deal breaker for me as I rarely compare screen to screen but I've owned a gs2,gs3, and gs4 and there is always some yellowish tint discussion that pops up. You can keep exchanging until you get a more bluish tone but I don't have the energy any more lol. Screen still looks great to me!!
Blame AMOLED tech. Your options right now are a slightly yellow screen with generally more accurate color reproduction or a slightly blue screen with less accurate overall color reproduction but mildly more pleasant whites (to most people).
It wouldn't be a big deal but its really bad because its centered. By that I mean when I look at all the different sides from straight on I can tell they are more blueish and it makes the center look even more yellowed. I realize the amoleds generally run warmer in tone but it seems to me that the whole screen should at least carry the same tone from the same angle. Obviously because of the curved nature the color will shift on the actual edges of the screen but everything else ought to be the same color/tone.
Or am I totally off base here?
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It wouldn't be a big deal but its really bad because its centered. By that I mean when I look at all the different sides from straight on I can tell they are more blueish and it makes the center look even more yellowed. I realize the amoleds generally run warmer in tone but it seems to me that the whole screen should at least carry the same tone from the same angle. Obviously because of the curved nature the color will shift on the actual edges of the screen but everything else ought to be the same color/tone.
Or am I totally off base here?
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Return your phone and get a different brand?
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Return your phone and get a different brand?
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Doesn't really answer the question which is...
A: is it possible that my display is defective since it really only shows a warm yellow tone in the center most portion of the screen?
B: is this going to be true for all sgs6e's or is there a chance of having one where the tone is the same throughout the entire display face.
I understand color shifting and how is inevitable, but I would at least like my screen to have the same tone from top to bottom (obviously the edges will have a different tone done they are being seen at an angle when viewing the phone head on) rather than Top:Cold Middle:Warm Bottom:Cold
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Just turned on Adaptive Display which seems to make the whole screen more uniform in tone temperature however angles are still a bit of a..... well..... bi*** because they remind me of the pure white coloring I've grown to know so well. But I suppose this is far more livable than before which was almost unbearable (thanks OCD).
May still try to swap for a new unit in a week or so just to see if anything has changed.
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Anyone else's display seem to have a yellowish tint? Mine seems very yellow looking at it straight on. But when I look at it angled either from the bottom or top it looks perfectly white with just a slight bluish tint. Either way it looks much better than yellow.
So what I'm trying to figure out is of I got a bad unit and if I should go get a new one. Only reason I am even considering not exchanging is the whole "scratchgate" bs.
Anyone care to weigh in?
BTW I have the 64gb black.
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I have s6 edge too (32gigs black) (Indian Variant) and I also have the same problem. Coming from note 4 so this yellowish tint really is deal breaker for me!
you sure it isnt the adaptive screen setting?
what I found is if you are using the adaptive screen mode and reading a webpage w/ lots of text, it sometimes will change the tint to warmer which ends up with a yellowish screen instead of white, which may cause you to think that the screen is yellow (thats what I thought the first time I saw it)
try to change the screen type to some other settings and see if that get you the white color?
I am having the same problem. I know it's a defective screen because I have two S6 Edges here.
My black sapphire 32 gb has a white screen
My new gold platinum 64 gb has a yellow screen and its very annoying. I'm probably gonna exchange it
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Anyone else's display seem to have a yellowish tint? Mine seems very yellow looking at it straight on. But when I look at it angled either from the bottom or top it looks perfectly white with just a slight bluish tint. Either way it looks much better than yellow.
So what I'm trying to figure out is of I got a bad unit and if I should go get a new one. Only reason I am even considering not exchanging is the whole "scratchgate" bs.
Anyone care to weigh in?
BTW I have the 64gb black.
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my second one has exactly the same poblem. I got a new one because the first one had exactly the same issue.
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Pure+ said:
Anyone else's display seem to have a yellowish tint? Mine seems very yellow looking at it straight on. But when I look at it angled either from the bottom or top it looks perfectly white with just a slight bluish tint. Either way it looks much better than yellow.
So what I'm trying to figure out is of I got a bad unit and if I should go get a new one. Only reason I am even considering not exchanging is the whole "scratchgate" bs.
Anyone care to weigh in?
BTW I have the 64gb black.
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Hello . Please do tell if you use a screen protector film or glass . Cause i have the exact same problem and everybody saye it's the protector but i dont think so . It happend after a bootloop and because the phone turned too hot before i download the stock rom i decided to put it in refrigerator. Battey ran out and when It realized it the phone was too cold maybe next to 0 degree . After the flash was done I noticed the color has changed . So I'm kinda unsure