So I've previously tried installing a 4.4 and a 4.4.2 ROM on my XT1056, with both leading up to recovery failure once I realized the ROM does not have all of the features that I want or has some bugs.
When I installed the 4.4 over 4.2.2 without flashing it, I then ran into problems like FCs to the point where I could not even get past the screen lock. When I rebooted into recovery it would stay on for a little less than a minute, and while I was trying to restore stock, the recovery would come to a halt and reboot my system. I then had to restore my system.
Today I tried putting 4.4.2 on it and it got through but it had a feature missing from it that I was looking forward to and I tried going back to stock once again and the exact same thing happens. Interrupted restoration to a reboot of nothing.
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So I've previously tried installing a 4.4 and a 4.4.2 ROM on my XT1056, with both leading up to recovery failure once I realized the ROM does not have all of the features that I want or has some bugs.
When I installed the 4.4 over 4.2.2 without flashing it, I then ran into problems like FCs to the point where I could not even get past the screen lock. When I rebooted into recovery it would stay on for a little less than a minute, and while I was trying to restore stock, the recovery would come to a halt and reboot my system. I then had to restore my system.
Today I tried putting 4.4.2 on it and it got through but it had a feature missing from it that I was looking forward to and I tried going back to stock once again and the exact same thing happens. Interrupted restoration to a reboot of nothing.
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not sure what you did maybe try reinstalling the recovery
First issue is your setting will fc when your base ROM is 4.2.2 and you have flashed a 4.4 or 4.4.2 ROM, the modem needs to be upgraded to prevent such issues, second issue is the recovery which also needs to be updated to kitkat otherwise you will not be able to restore your nandroids. So you either need to update to kitkat or stay with jb and not flash any kitkat roms
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If I were to root 4.4 after taking the OTA, that flashes over a new radio? And if I still go through going to 4.4, would I be able to restore to 4.2.2?
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If I were to root 4.4 after taking the OTA, that flashes over a new radio? And if I still go through going to 4.4, would I be able to restore to 4.2.2?
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Yes the ota flashes new radios and boot loaders, you can only downgrade from 4.4 to post camera 4.2.2 sbf firmware, I don't believe we can downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.2.2
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Posible upgrade and downgrade for MotoX
Im quoting a post from MakTail in other forum:
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There are currently 4 different available bootloaders for the Moto X.
In chronological order:
1) Pre-Camera 4.2.2
2) Post-Camera 4.2.2
3) KitKat 4.4
4) KitKat 4.4.2
Pre-Camera ----> Post-Camera <-----> KitKat 4.4 -----> KitKat 4.4.2
The arrows indicate when the bootloader downgrade is possible:
------> (one way update)
<----> (you can move back and forth between these bootloaders)
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i think this resolves all the questions about.
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Im quoting a post from MakTail in other forum:
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There are currently 4 different available bootloaders for the Moto X.
In chronological order:
1) Pre-Camera 4.2.2
2) Post-Camera 4.2.2
3) KitKat 4.4
4) KitKat 4.4.2
Pre-Camera ----> Post-Camera <-----> KitKat 4.4 -----> KitKat 4.4.2
The arrows indicate when the bootloader downgrade is possible:
------> (one way update)
<----> (you can move back and forth between these bootloaders)
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i think this resolves all the questions about.
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right this has to do with the bootloader only thou.
you can still flash everything else but if you do flash everything else and you get a OTA Update and you install it. It will brick your phone and it is not easy to get out of it and sometimes you can't
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Buddy has a Sprint moto X that he accidentally upgraded to 4.4. Does sbfing the phone w/ a 4.2.2 "image" properly reset the device to 4.2.2 or is it incompatible?
ericerk said:
Buddy has a Sprint moto X that he accidentally upgraded to 4.4. Does sbfing the phone w/ a 4.2.2 "image" properly reset the device to 4.2.2 or is it incompatible?
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It is very easy to downgrade the phone but.
There is 3 OTa for this phone
4.2.2(dont ever downloaded with brick phone)
Blur_Version.139.12.2.ghost_sprint.Sprint.en.US
4.2.2 Camera Update
Blur_Version.139.14.1.ghost_sprint.Sprint.en.US
4.4
Blur_Version.143.44.8.ghost_sprint.Sprint.en.US
make sure you downoload
you can isntall either the 4.2.2CU or 4.4 anytime you want just dont install the first 4.2.2 for some reason it will brick your phone firmware can be downloaded from here
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
guide to flash can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
look for Guide for Returning to Stock 4.4 or 4.2.4 Camera Update part and follow
Update: The ATT 4.4 firmware seems to have worked. Everything seems to function just as it should. Will someone release the rogers ota 4.4 update that I can flash in the future? If that's the case would I follow normal flashing behavior to return to my proper firmware?
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The first problem I had was that this 4.4 image had some bugs(Tmobile here: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0). The home button didn't bring me to the homescreen, the push notification area didnt work(clicking the little profile thing for wifi bluetooth etc,) and some other minor bugs.
What did I do? I tried flashing a backup of my clean 4.2.2 -- Doesn't work. Tried flashing another 4.4(dhacker i believe,) boot loop.
I'm tryign to use rsdlite to restore stock 4.2.2 image and worked through soem areas(editing the xml,) but now I get "failed to hab check for tz:0x4e" Google searches didn't return any relevant solutions for my situation.
I had got the OTA update to 4.4 while running TWRP and forgot(and was unable) to revert to stock recovery to accept the OTA update. This is how it all started. Does anyone have a solution to this error code? I just can't seem to find one(it fails during motoboot.img btw).
Ps: I heard it could be my BL being upgraded to 4.4, which peope claim can be downgraded, but I've yet to see how.
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The only 4.2.2 sbf firmware file that will flash correctly is the post camera sbf firmware, so make sure you are using the correct firmware, have you attempted to reflash the T-Mobile sbf firmware again? Sounds like a full wipe was not done after you flashed the T-Mobile firmware.
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The only 4.2.2 sbf firmware file that will flash correctly is the post camera sbf firmware, so make sure you are using the correct firmware, have you attempted to reflash the T-Mobile sbf firmware again? Sounds like a full wipe was not done after you flashed the T-Mobile firmware.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I have to love you guys here at XDA
I've managed to get the ATT firmware to work perfectly. Will the 4.4 firmware be added to sbf in a little while(seems the ota is slow. I randomly got it.) for me to reflash like I did ATT?
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Thanks for the quick reply. I have to love you guys here at XDA
I've managed to get the ATT firmware to work perfectly. Will the 4.4 firmware be added to sbf in a little while(seems the ota is slow. I randomly got it.) for me to reflash like I did ATT?
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You can flash the rogers 4.4.2 sbf firmware when its available, the only thing, which needs to be confirmed is you may not be able to downgrade. Do not flash the other 4.4.2 firmware other than rogers just to be safe , people are flashing crap and messing with modems,panicking that their data is screwed and flashing back and bam dead phone. The resurrection thread works for some but not for everyone. Wish people would flash kangakat, eclipse, cm11 or gummy rom , its safer and you have stock based ROMs with all motos goodies and custom
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Where can I find installation for CM(my favorite mod) for my device? I haven't seemed to find any. Might be that none has been developed.
Otherwise can you suggest another similar mod that would work for my device.
My data seems to be non-functional for ATT firmware, which is fine for the moment, I'll leave everything as is(unless I install a mod) and flash the 4.4.2 rogers when it becomes avaliable(Do you think it would be within the next couple of days since the OTA is out?)
Ps: The other option I have is downgrading to 4.2.2 than using the OTA update(which is what I should have done in the first place...I forgot how to flash stock recovery for OTA,) but it seems the bootloader has now been upgraded. I don't suppose there is a way around that to restore 4.2.2 stock?
shartwell said:
Where can I find installation for CM(my favorite mod) for my device? I haven't seemed to find any. Might be that none has been developed.
Otherwise can you suggest another similar mod that would work for my device.
My data seems to be non-functional for ATT firmware, which is fine for the moment, I'll leave everything as is(unless I install a mod) and flash the 4.4.2 rogers when it becomes avaliable(Do you think it would be within the next couple of days since the OTA is out?)
Ps: The other option I have is downgrading to 4.2.2 than using the OTA update(which is what I should have done in the first place...I forgot how to flash stock recovery for OTA,) but it seems the bootloader has now been upgraded. I don't suppose there is a way around that to restore 4.2.2 stock?
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Make sure your apns are correct anyways here's cm11 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2546412
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flashallthetime said:
Make sure your apns are correct anyways here's cm11 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2546412
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I don't have root to flash TWRP or other recovery to install CM from 4.4. RSD doesn't seem to work with the cm11 zip.
shartwell said:
I don't have root to flash TWRP or other recovery to install CM from 4.4. RSD doesn't seem to work with the cm11 zip.
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You need to flash cm11 with custom recovery like twrp, it won't flash with rsdlite
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You need to flash cm11 with custom recovery like twrp, it won't flash with rsdlite
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Makes sense. Figured that was it. How can I get a custom recovery onto my phone, though, as it's unrooted on 4.4(which I've heard has no current root.)
Thank you for all the help, hope I can get cm working soon and forget about OTA in the future.
So here's the deal, I unlocked my T-Mobile Moto X bootloader through Motorola's website about a year ago or so. I also rooted and didn't bother updating afterwards to anything since I had everything working perfectly for me. Now I need to update my 4.2.2 Moto X to 4.4.3 (or really anything >=4.3 just so I can use my Moto 360 that'll be arriving soon).
My question is, with an unlocked bootloader, rooted, TWRP 2.6.3.1, Xposed-installed Moto X, can I go ahead and flash a stock 4.4.3 ROM (for example from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-stock-flashable-t-mobile-t2773675) and just call it a day?
I've been reading past threads and stuff to get back into the loop, but I just can'f find anything to answer me the simple question of updating an unlocked+rooted 4.2.2->4.4+ while keeping root. Just the simple question of, if I get a stock 4.4 image and flash it on my phone, will everything be okay?
I no longer have the passion and interest to constantly be fiddling with kernels, ROMs, and little hacks with my phone like I used to with my OG Droid and, to a lesser extent, with my Galaxy Nexus (plus I feel like it's gotten significantly less easy since those OG days).
I know (i.e. 90% sure) that one way to do what I want (kinda) is RSDLite/manually go back to stock without root on 4.2.2 and then accept the OTA, but certainly it has to be easier than that right? What happened to the days where I can just find a new Gingerbread ROM for my Froyo Droid and just flash it right then and there? Now everything is "go back to stock and do these convoluted steps."
(I'm sorry I'm ranting, I'm just really tired at the moment haha)
Thank you all, hopefully, for the help!
If you don't care about retaining your data, grab the 4.4.3 fxz and unzip it. Follow the directions for returning back to stock here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-complete-moto-x-guides-information-t2603358 but replace the files to be flashed with the files from the 4.4.3 fxz. Not sure where you got the idea that you need to go back to stock. Word of caution, once on 4.4.3 there's no going back to an older version.
I have the same question as the OP, on unlocked rooted 4.2.2 ATT Moto X, can i flash a custom 4.4.4 and keep root?
RGNDI said:
I have the same question as the OP, on unlocked rooted 4.2.2 ATT Moto X, can i flash a custom 4.4.4 and keep root?
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You can take the ota but you need the stock recovery. Since you are unlocked you will not lose your unlocked-ness(lol) if you take an ota. But you do need to be completely stock: no su, no custom recovery, etc etc. But once you upgrade to 4.4.3 getting root back is as simple as flashing the appropriate version recovery again and then flashing supersu.
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You can take the ota but you need the stock recovery. Since you are unlocked you will not lose your unlocked-ness(lol) if you take an ota. But you do need to be completely stock: no su, no custom recovery, etc etc. But once you upgrade to 4.4.3 getting root back is as simple as flashing the appropriate vision recovery again and then flashing supersu.
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OK thanks, but cant I just Flash a Rooted Stock 4.4.4 over 4.2.2? Thats a more to the point question
RGNDI said:
OK thanks, but cant I just Flash a Rooted Stock 4.4.4 over 4.2.2? Thats a more to the point question
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Yeah that would work as long as your radio is compatible with the rom. The rom you shared earlier should be fine. Just don't downgrade to anything pre 4.4 as that can cause issues because of partition sizes (or so I've heard). But after that I wouldn't take any OTA's cause your bootloader would be incompatible with the OTA and possibly cause a brick. If I were you I'd revert to stock and take the long way to 4.4.3 just so I can get the OTA for when Android L comes out. In fact thats what I plan on doing if the Sunshine bootloader unlock is successful. But if you don't care about that then everything should be fine.
Hello, I have upgraded to 5.0.2. via OTA a few days ago. My phone was RetEU .23, and the update notification that 5.0.2. became so annoying, so I decided to give it a shot. Lollipop is a disappointment for me, battery drain issues, lagging all over the menus, slow dialer, the phone was running better with KK installed, so I want to return back to 4.4.4.
Unfortunately there is no clear opinion whether this could be done, some say that when you have 5.0.2. bootloader installed with the OTA, you cannot go back, others say that it is no problem to do so. Really confusing.
Anyone tried to go back to 4.4.4. after getting the OTA? Could you please share how did you do so? Unlocking the bootloader and flashing one of the 4.4.4 stock ROMs from the General Section?
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Hello, I have upgraded to 5.0.2. via OTA a few days ago. My phone was RetEU .23, and the update notification that 5.0.2. became so annoying, so I decided to give it a shot. Lollipop is a disappointment for me, battery drain issues, lagging all over the menus, slow dialer, the phone was running better with KK installed, so I want to return back to 4.4.4.
Unfortunately there is no clear opinion whether this could be done, some say that when you have 5.0.2. bootloader installed with the OTA, you cannot go back, others say that it is no problem to do so. Really confusing.
Anyone tried to go back to 4.4.4. after getting the OTA? Could you please share how did you do so? Unlocking the bootloader and flashing one of the 4.4.4 stock ROMs from the General Section?
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Hello,
i actually switched from 5.0.2 back to KK 4.4.4 from Pizza_dox
when your bootloader is unlocked and you have TWRP installed
follow these instructions
1, go do a factory reset
2, go to advanced wipe and select :dalvik cache/system/data/internal storage/cache
when you did that there is no system on your phone so when you restart you will be going into an endless bootloop.
3, go press install and select the Microkat.zip file from Pizza_Dox
when that is done you have agian kitkat on your device
i think there some other methods but this is how i did it succesfully.
Also dont forget to make a backup because you will lose everything.
Gerriitw said:
Hello,
i actually switched from 5.0.2 back to KK 4.4.4 from Pizza_dox
when your bootloader is unlocked and you have TWRP installed
follow these instructions
1, go do a factory reset
2, go to advanced wipe and select :dalvik cache/system/data/internal storage/cache
when you did that there is no system on your phone so when you restart you will be going into an endless bootloop.
3, go press install and select the Microkat.zip file from Pizza_Dox
when that is done you have agian kitkat on your device
i think there some other methods but this is how i did it succesfully.
Also dont forget to make a backup because you will lose everything.
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Thanks for your comment. I actually plan to go back to the stock 4.4.4. I have a basic idea of bootloader and things but not deep into this and have never done it before. From what I have read , I will have to:
1. First I need to unlock the bootloader, as per the instructions in the Moto website.
2. Then I will need to do a factory reset. (settings-secuirity-factory reset or some other way of doing this?)
3. Download 4.4.4 firmware + script.
4. Start up with Power+VolDown buttons and have bootloader menu on screen
5. Run the downloaded script from its .bat file.
6. Wait for some time for the flashing to end, then have stock 4.4.4
Please correct me if something is wrong or missed.
dub_1 said:
Thanks for your comment. I actually plan to go back to the stock 4.4.4. I have a basic idea of bootloader and things but not deep into this and have never done it before. From what I have read , I will have to:
1. First I need to unlock the bootloader, as per the instructions in the Moto website.
2. Then I will need to do a factory reset. (settings-secuirity-factory reset or some other way of doing this?)
3. Download 4.4.4 firmware + script.
4. Start up with Power+VolDown buttons and have bootloader menu on screen
5. Run the downloaded script from its .bat file.
6. Wait for some time for the flashing to end, then have stock 4.4.4
Please correct me if something is wrong or missed.
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What i did...
Download the correct kk stock rom
Setup my drivers and mfastboot correctly (simple fast boot works too)
Unlocked bootloader. (Voids warranty coz gives bootloader status 3)
Reboot in bootloader now...
Flash all files of kitkat except gpt.bin and motoboot.bin (they never flash for me lol )
Flash all other files (i typed filenames manually)
Fastboot reboot
Ps - no matter what i do..i have not been able to lock my bootloader once i downgraded from 5.0.2 to 4.4.4
Locking bootloader works well on 5.0.2
doctor_droid said:
What i did...
Download the correct kk stock rom
Setup my drivers and mfastboot correctly (simple fast boot works too)
Unlocked bootloader. (Voids warranty coz gives bootloader status 3)
Reboot in bootloader now...
Flash all files of kitkat except gpt.bin and motoboot.bin (they never flash for me lol )
Flash all other files (i typed filenames manually)
Fastboot reboot
Ps - no matter what i do..i have not been able to lock my bootloader once i downgraded from 5.0.2 to 4.4.4
Locking bootloader works well on 5.0.2
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well guess im gonna try - but no need to do, as makes no difference except to downgrading.... So best off unlocked
simply use the 4.4.4 link in my signature and pick firmware 2 or B called DSDSALL to go back to 4.4.4 .23 ret(xx)
So, it has been confirmed by several forums that when you have officially received the 5.0.2 OTA download update, you cannot go back to KK.
It has something to do with the new L bootloader. I guess that there is no way of doing this, up to now at least. Don't know if someone has tried and succeeded.
When you have flashed the 5.0.2. OTA however, you can have KK installed back, as most of the users on xda.
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So, it has been confirmed by several forums that when you have officially received the 5.0.2 OTA download update, you cannot go back to KK. FALSE
It has something to do with the new L bootloader. I guess that there is no way of doing this, up to now at least. Don't know if someone has tried and succeeded. FALSE
When you have flashed the 5.0.2. OTA however, you can have KK installed back, as most of the users on xda.
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YES you can install kitkat see my signature you NEED a unlocked boot loader
I have been up / down and sideways with ALL 4 versions ( 3 kitkat 1 Lollipop) of XT1068 firmware 50+ installs , a few soft bricks - also installed a few custom roms - gone back to lollipop and kitkat from these too.
see my signature for 4.4.4 and 5.0.2 firmware xt1068
reefuge said:
YES you can install kitkat see my signature you NEED a unlocked boot loader
I have been up / down and sideways with ALL 4 versions ( 3 kitkat 1 Lollipop) of XT1068 firmware 50+ installs , a few soft bricks - also installed a few custom roms - gone back to lollipop and kitkat from these too.
see my signature for 4.4.4 and 5.0.2 firmware xt1068
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Cheers mate. Already installed stock 4.4.4.
Does it make sense to relock the bootloader?
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Cheers mate. Already installed stock 4.4.4.
Does it make sense to relock the bootloader?
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no absolutely not....... boot logo warning still comes up ...warranty still void and strangely if been to 5.0.2 and back to 4.4.4 it wont relock
but you can relock if on 5.0.2
Successful downgrade from 5.0.2 to 4.4.4
Dear All,
Pls help me in downgrading from 5.0.2 to 4.4.4 on my XT1068 Dual Sim Indian Version.
I need to know whether we can return to 4.4.4 without unlocking bootloader and is rooting needed.
Pls let me know your experience in a noob friendly way.
TIA... :angel:
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Cheers mate. Already installed stock 4.4.4.
Does it make sense to relock the bootloader?
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What exactly did you do? His signature is gone...
Hi All,
I'm still rocking my 2013 Moto X XT1060 as my daily device. It's currently on 4.4, rooted, unlocked bootloader, stock rom with exposed framework. i disabled the OTA updates on it because at the time, I didn't have an unlocked bootloader and didn't want to loose root (I'm not on the dev-edition). Anyway, my bluetooth has started to crash and want to/should update 4.4.4 or 5.1. What do you recommend?
In addition to that, what method should I use to get there:
1. SFB back to 4.2.2 (I'm currently on 4.4 so I don't think that shouldn't be a problem but please tell me otherwise)
1a. Take all the OTAs to 4.4.4 or 5.1?
2. SFB to 4.4.4 (directly from 4.4, not sure if that's a problem)
3. SFB to 5.1 (directly from 4.4, again, not sure if that's a problem)
Thank you!
If it were me, I would take the 4.4.4 update and stop there. I have mine rooted with stock 4.4.4, and everything just works. Kit kat is really the sweet spot for this phone.
Thanks! What method should I take to get there? Can I SBF directly to it from 4.4 or is it possible to downgrade back to 4.2.2 from 4.4 and take the updates? I've been out of the scene since I got the phone back in 2013 so I can't remember if downgrading to 4.2.2 is OK.
You should not downgrade to 4.2.2, besides it's not necessary. If you want to get to 4.4.4, then I would use the method compiled in this post by liveroy. It's not complicated, simply follow the directions exactly. I then reflashed TWRP recovery, and installed SuperSU, in order to use AdAway and ES File Explorer's root access. If you want to remain stock, then omit TWRP and SuperSU.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/guide-faq-how-to-downgrade-5-1-to-4-4-4-t3182118
Note: as suggested by KidJoe, I used TWRP 2.8.6.0 and the most recent SuperSU.
wmdunn said:
If it were me, I would take the 4.4.4 update and stop there. I have mine rooted with stock 4.4.4, and everything just works. Kit kat is really the sweet spot for this phone.
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Agreed. I kept KK while my friends upgraded to 5.1, nothing but problems and extremely poor battery life.