I am looking for a quick and easy way to switch from 3G to Edge (Yes I have a Tilt on AT&T) from the today screen so that I can conserve battery life most of the time but get to 3G quickly.
I thought that phoneAlarm could do it by profile but it doesn't.
Freeware would be great since I am not looking for anything profile, time or location based but at the point I am open to whatever.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317982
(explicitly linked from the Wiki at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...(GPRS & EDGE) modes to optimize battery life! )
Menneisyys said:
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317982
(explicitly linked from the Wiki at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...(GPRS & EDGE) modes to optimize battery life! )
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Thank you sir.. I have been on the board for too long trying to figure out some flashing things and got lazy.
I have working this issue from the phoneAlarm end as well since it seems to have decided to stop working on me for some reason
http://www.pocketmax.net/smf/index.php?topic=5374.msg37434#msg37434
Have a great weekend!
I did some more testing and the plot thickens (or at least becomes more complicated) I read here that the Tilt changes bands differently than other WM6 phones (although I have not yet figured out how) so I think that may be part of the problem.
I flashed _Alex_ ' s ultra clean ROM and the only thing I installed was phoneAlarm. The phone was connected to MEdia Net in 3G. When I switched to a profile that did not have 3G (selected as GSM in the options) the connection disconnected and reconnected, but it remained 3G.
The same was true in reverse if I selected a GSM profile and reset it would start is EDGE. If I changed it to 3G profile it would disconnect, reconnect and stay EDGE.
I started checking the comm manager (I am using a 10 button comm manager) and the 3G selector would change with the profile although the band switch would not occur.
What is funny is that if I used the 3G selector on the comm manager the band switched with no problem, following the same behavior patter of disconnecting and reconnecting.
I don't know enough to really dig in any further but I will keep googling how the Tilt changes bands and hopefully one of the more technically adept folks will have something figured out or can give me an assist.
dcdivenut said:
I am looking for a quick and easy way to switch from 3G to Edge (Yes I have a Tilt on AT&T) from the today screen so that I can conserve battery life most of the time but get to 3G quickly.
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3G and edge use the exact transmitted power! (Always on connection is the main problem!) An Ipod uses Edge which is slow. But what the hey, you have a question and it will be answered here...
Farsquidge said:
3G and edge use the exact transmitted power! (Always on connection is the main problem!) But what the hey, you have a question and it will be answered here...
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That is interesting, because I get significant improvements in battery life if I spend the day on EDGE vs 3G. In fact, my battery rarely lasts more than 3/4 of a day with light phone usage if I am on 3G! This experience would see to be pretty common and I have even seen something that says 3G uses up to 4 times as much power as EDGE. This was supposedly the reason why Apple made the iPhone EDGE not 3G.
I am not bashing you and there may some electrical engineering reason why they use the same transmitted power but real life this translates into something different.
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This was supposedly the reason why Apple made the iPhone EDGE not 3G.
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That does it!!! I'm finished...
One of the 10 key Comm Managers works. I don't recall what thread I got it in but it works fine for me.
HTC changed the old way to change the band in tilt. Now It isnt enought to change a registry key and reset the radio device. Now are needed dark and undocumented api calls to htc libraries. Bandswitch and commmgrpro(bandswitch + profiles) do it correctly.
Dani
danielherrero said:
HTC changed the old way to change the band in tilt. Now It isnt enought to change a registry key and reset the radio device. Now are needed dark and undocumented api calls to htc libraries. Bandswitch and commmgrpro(bandswitch + profiles) do it correctly.
Dani
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Thanks - I will pass this along to Bruce, who is the phonealarm creator, and is trying to fix this in his next release. Another reason I love the product!!!
Shameless plug for them but it really is an awesome product and the support is great! Worth every freakin' penny!
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3G and edge use the exact transmitted power! (Always on connection is the main problem!) An Ipod uses Edge which is slow. But what the hey, you have a question and it will be answered here...
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Uh, you wanna cite your source for that one?
I think HTC have been changing things again as my new Touch Dual, with latest bandswitch does not swap, it will allow the change and it even shows it in the system settings, but remains on 3G
A little divergent from the main topic thread, but:
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This was supposedly the reason why Apple made the iPhone EDGE not 3G.
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If Apple could have made it 3G they would have. Steve Jobs was quoted in an interview that the reason the iPhone was not released with 3G originally was that the hardware to make it 3G was not out long enough to be tested thoroughly at the time the phone was being built and tested, not the time it was released. Once the decision was made to go Edge, Apple couldn't release a much better phone within a quarter or two so the incentive to get it out sooner went away. I have it on good authority (rumors in the media also confirm this) that the 3G iPhone will be released Q2/Q3 in 2008. Also, given the popularity of the iPhone and Cingular's small but growing 3G network at the time of release, Cingular was concerned that not everyone that bought an iPhone would have been in 3G areas and would have complained about performance. This is why Cingular has seemingly accelerated the roll-out of 3G-ready areas faster over the last few quarters. This comes from a few friends at Cingular.
If a new 3G iPhone will have battery life as long as the current Edge iPhone (removable battery would be the bomb to carry an extra one or extra capacity, it will be a very compelling unit, despite the inability to add 3rd party apps. And to bring this full circle to the thread, if a 3G iPhone allows 3G to be turned on/off, look out Windows mobile....oh, and removable storage capacity, too, and GPS..., and a good IM program...
Try these Comm Managers. They both work perfectly fine on my tilt.
None of these work on the Dual as it moans about permissions when installing.
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None of these work on the Dual as it moans about permissions when installing.
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Go to Settings>System> Memory>Running Programs and Stop the Comm Manager application. Then install the Comm Manager.
That should do the trick.
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Try these Comm Managers. They both work perfectly fine on my tilt.
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I am currently using the dutty black 3G and that works perfectly. What I have done is link comm manager to a button so I can access it quickly and switch as needed. Changing comm managers does not address the phoneAlarm issue since phoneAlarm changes reg keys (according to Bruce) and with the Tilt (and maybe the Kaiser) it takes "api calls" or something else I don't fully understand.
If there is anyone who knows how this works and would be willing to share with Bruce over at pocketMax so he can build this into a update release that would be awesome!
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Go to Settings>System> Memory>Running Programs and Stop the Comm Manager application. Then install the Comm Manager.
That should do the trick.
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Stopping everything and install worked thanks.
Hi,
I am looking for an application that can automatically switch profile depending of your location (using GPS).
Does such application exist for WM6?
Thanks,
Yeah that would be nice.
I have tried CommMgrpro:
http://www.commmgrpro.com/
But I can't find out if it works on GPS too.
It work perfect on GSM.
But it seems to drain the battery way too fast.
The interface is terrible!
Far too complexe, I am not a .NET developer, I'll try to post that as a request.
So may be someone will figure out how to make a simple app...
Thanks,
I can't see the point, do you switch on GPS each time when approaching your office so it can select right profile ? Wouldnt it be easier to press an on-screen button to do that ?
You are right the GPS would have to be always on.
I was just using an application on symbian called miniGPS, it was doing exactly this but by using the GSM network. GPS would be far more accurate.
Are you sure this would be workable in practice given the high power consumption of the GPS?
Mathew
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GPS would be far more accurate.
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As said above it is not gonna work with GPS, it will eat your battery super fast ... not a bad idea with GSM though ... I would definately be interested in such utility
Hey all,
First off I want to say that I've been using htc products since the original orange SPV and whenever I have needed anything this site has always been here for me. Fantastic work, please don't stop - ever. You're a true credit to the Windows Mobile community.
If it's not too much trouble I have some questions about the Keiser that I and i'm sure one of you will know exactly what the problem is.
Choppy music
Recently i've been finding that when playing music to a bluetooth (sony dr-bt22) or cabled headset (using converter) the music will occasionally jump quite a lot. Now it doesn't do this all the time, but I would have thought that when this happens it'd be down to some sort of bottleneck with resources. I've looked at the great taskmgr tool and can't see anything major. There's about 50% of the ram and processing power free and for just playing music I wouldn't have thought this would have drained much. So my thought was maybe it's to do with storage bandwidth, but I'm unable to find out. Can anyone recommend me a tool or a fix for this issue? Is it common?
Wifi
I barely use wifi cause it seems to get insanely hot and use alot of battery. It seems a bit of a waste to me to have a great feature like wifi disable on a device like this. I only have the o2 gprs bolt on and it doesn't connect at great speeds. I'd love to be able to automatically hop onto trusted wifi networks as I roam about particularly as openzone is everywhere these days.
Is the insane heat it's generating a sign that this should not be sat in my pocket all day or is it perfectly safe? I'm guessing this is why it's sapping all the power with all the energy wasted on heat but can't this be avoided? I'm not much of an expert on how wifi works or the safety of having it so close to you all the time.
GPRS performance
I was pretty fed up of the bills I was getting on contract with this phone so I'm now using the o2 png and using the o2 £7 internet bolton. However, I REALLY hate internet explorer! It is extremely fiddly on the move and I can't drag pages around with my finger or so it seems. Can anyone recommend me a really smart browser that is finger orientated? I also seem to be getting insanely poor performance with GPRS/3G, pages are taking a insane amount of time to load sometimes so i'm figuring i'm mostly on GPRS. How is 3g coverage these days and what speed should I be expecting? Or is this all down to the strength of the battery on the phone?
Finger Based Alternatives
I loved some of the ideas in PointUI and would love any recommendations on finger apps - especially for reading mail and controlling windows media player and most of all that annoying stock Contacts window, it can be a pain dragging a pen out or switching to the keyboard just to make a simple call.
Bluetooth Disconnection
Whilst packed into a train on my way to work one day my bluetooth headset power ran out and disconnected from my phone. I happened to be playing music and 100% volume and you can imagine what happened next. Is there a way for Windows Media Player to pause on bluetooth disconnection? It's extremely embarassing!
Thanks in advance for those that reply. I really love this phone and would love to get the most out of it.
Cheers
Mike
Lots of questions -
You do not state what ROM you are on/using - but I had many of the issues with BT and WIFI and music that you state you are having. I upgraded to the ROM in my signature and the BT and WIFI problems went away.
I use Opera now and like it better - don't set your expectations on internet on a 2 by 3 inch screen too high. When your finger takes up 7 percent of the ENTIRE screen it is going to be difficult to point accurately easily. The pointer however works a treat.
Re: BT disconnection - I was at the BYM and listening to music and it happened to me - you apologize and stop the music ASAP. Now - in church while the minister is speaking is a totally 'nother story...
Bill
Hi Whk,
I tried out duttys wm61 rom which I enjoyed the most but seemed to have the largest performance issues on. Before that it was the stock o2 xda build.
Thanks for the suggestion with opera, i'll give it a go.
Cheers!
Mike
hi:
i do realize that dedicated gps devices should be better than any phone..
how satisfied are we w/ N1 as gps?
how fast does it lock on?
how often does it have to recalculate?
etc////
aside from google, what maps are ppl liking best?
all the criteria that a person would judge any gps is what im talking about.
all experiences are appreciated
N1 is good. Locks almost instantly if data connection is available (aGPS assistance data downloads), locks quite fast even if the connection isn't available.
Doesn't like buildings, but locks near windows.
Locks on 100mph train.
Locks in urban areas.
Works for me..
Hi all,
I am using 2.22.27.08, wondering what would be the difference between 2.22.27.08/2.22.28.25, and if should go to 2.22.28.25.
Would it crash my current setup?
Heeter
Supposedly better reception in general and connects to towers faster in low signal area situations. I'm not sure what else for differences.
As far as "Crashing your setup" ... no they are interchangeable and most newer Rom's can use either as such. Although if your current setup works good and you don't have signal issues you really don't need to change.
Some say it eats the battery faster... Could be, but I use background data sync for 2 gmail accounts and sip calling with a 2300 mAh battery charging once a day so I don't really notice it much.
A few posts about the two can be found at the links below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843454&page=2
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/11138-2222708-or-2222825/
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Supposedly better reception in general and connects to towers faster in low signal area situations. I'm not sure what else for differences.
As far as "Crashing your setup" ... no they are interchangeable and most newer Rom's can use either as such. Although if your current setup works good and you don't have signal issues you really don't need to change.
Some say it eats the battery faster... Could be, but I use background data sync for 2 gmail accounts and sip calling with a 2300 mAh battery charging once a day so I don't really notice it much.
A few posts about the two can be found at the links below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843454&page=2
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/11138-2222708-or-2222825/
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Thanks for your response
Heeter