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I am ready for a new phone, but would like to be done with Verizon once they take away my unlimited plan. I read a few posts where it is said that the cdma phones would work on T-Mobile, the carrier I will be going to next. Can anyone confirm or deny the ability to use on both networks?
Thanks
Yes a Verizon Moto X will work on T-Mobile as it is SIM unlocked and supports band 4 LTE. It should be noted that it doesn't support AWS 3G which is the main band T-Mobile uses for their 3G service. If you are in a refarmed market then they will also offer 3G service on the PCS band which the Verizon Moto X does support. Most major cities are refarmed so as long as you are okay with the risk of ending up on 2G more often then you would on a T-Mobile Moto X then you should be okay. From my understanding T-Mobile is working on having almost all of their 3G service on the PCS band in order to free up AWS spectrum for LTE so this issue should become less of an issue over time.
With kit Kat on my vzw x, when I put my T-Mobile Sim in, I must manually enter T-Mobile APN settings to get working data and SMS. I haven't tried MMS.
With 4.2.2 Roms (version that the phone came with plus camera ota) APN settings came down automatically.
I get h+ in refarmed area.
landale said:
Yes a Verizon Moto X will work on T-Mobile as it is SIM unlocked and supports band 4 LTE. It should be noted that it doesn't support AWS 3G which is the main band T-Mobile uses for their 3G service. If you are in a refarmed market then they will also offer 3G service on the PCS band which the Verizon Moto X does support. Most major cities are refarmed so as long as you are okay with the risk of ending up on 2G more often then you would on a T-Mobile Moto X then you should be okay. From my understanding T-Mobile is working on having almost all of their 3G service on the PCS band in order to free up AWS spectrum for LTE so this issue should become less of an issue over time.
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I thought the VZW Moto X only supported Band 13 LTE?
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I thought the VZW Moto X only supported Band 13 LTE?
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It supports both. I've confirmed this with a T-Mobile SIM card and is also stated on the Verizon dev page.
http://developer.verizon.com/content/vdc/en/verizon-devices/pages/mot_moto_x.html
landale said:
It supports both. I've confirmed this with a T-Mobile SIM card and is also stated on the Verizon dev page.
http://developer.verizon.com/content/vdc/en/verizon-devices/pages/mot_moto_x.html
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Wow, that's interesting. Also interesting that the top section specifically references Band 4, yet the actual spectrum is not called out in the technical section below.
Thanks for the info. This is a surprisingly network-flexible phone... not used to that with Verizon phones.
binary visions said:
Wow, that's interesting. Also interesting that the top section specifically references Band 4, yet the actual spectrum is not called out in the technical section below.
Thanks for the info. This is a surprisingly network-flexible phone... not used to that with Verizon phones.
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Most of the upper level Verizon LTE phones released this year save the HTC One support band 4 either out of the box or will get a software update for it. Verizon is supposed to be making a big push over the next few months to add band 4 LTE service which is much needed here in Houston as our band 13 LTE service is so overloaded that sometimes I am lucky to top 3-4mbps.
Quite possible that Band 4 support was added in one of the updates that was pushed out, so most documentation wouldn't reference it. Best place to check would be the FCC docs when they tested the phone.
fyrmd said:
I am ready for a new phone, but would like to be done with Verizon once they take away my unlimited plan. I read a few posts where it is said that the cdma phones would work on T-Mobile, the carrier I will be going to next. Can anyone confirm or deny the ability to use on both networks?
Thanks
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I put a T-mobile SIM in my stock 16GB Verizon Moto x. Here is what works and doesn't.
First off, 4G works! in the South Jersey area and it is Blistering fast, I have exceeded 40MB speed test downloads twice, Several in the high 30s and I am avg in mid 20s. Uploads are averaging 20+/- . Compared to Verizon this is like comparing Fios to 1999 era dial up. the best I ever got on Verizon 4G was 14 download but average between 4 and 9 !
The Network notification switches a lot between 4G, "H" mode, whatever that is, just bars and another which I didn't catch quick enough to read ?
Battery has been amazing compared to my galaxy Nexus, I got 7.5 hours of Actual "Screen on Time" which included some GPS use and an hour of music streaming total phone up time was 34+ hours. How long it will perform like this is anyone's guess, today i got about 6.5 of Screen on time. I hope this inst a trend
Now for the bad news - Using it as a Phone. Incoming calls are fine but, making outgoing is a Pain in the A$$.
When I dial a number, (which is a hassle on this KitKat dialer) it often goes to the home screen or back to the dialer. The Call Fails. I am not sure if my dialer is buggy or its a compatibility problem. the KitKat Dialer on the Moto X is an exorcise in futility. Google are you listening? Why reinvent the wheel. All I want in my Dialer is a Number Pad! and a phone book.
When I Open dialer I see Recent calls up top, the whole middle section says all contacts and is otherwise blank, the bottom has the number pad icon, History and settings dots.
Clicking the number pad icon enlarges the bottom section, which then goes all white and removes the three icons. I have to then click the back arrow and re-click the number pad icon to bring it up the actual dialer. .
At this time I can dial. and then the call always fails on the first attempt. Sometimes it takes several attempts to go through.
When I click send on the dialer the 4G disappears and I am left with just the bars. they come back when call is done but sometimes take a few minutes to do so.
If you Kill the dialer app or swipe it away, coming back to it you will have the same issues when trying to get the number pad (two attempts) if you dont, the number pad will open on first attempt. but the calls will still fail on the first try.
I also cant use the internet when in a call, whether WiFi is on or off. Is this a T-mobile problem? I could use the net in Verizon when in a call when on 4G or WiFi
The Data is set to global mode but I have tried both the other settings. On boot up I get a warning saying the SIM is not recognized which I just swipe away.
I am also having this problem. After making a call, the music player and the phones "volume" aspects cease to work., Meaning, I get no sound out of the phone, Music, notifications alarms etc.. This happens almost every time and the only fix is a reboot
I disabled all Verizon Bloat and a lot of Moto Bloat as well This could be causing some of the bugs? But i have tested several different configurations all with the same outcomes.
Hope this helps and puts an end to the - Will it work or not questions. There seem to be a lot of Net Know it all's that flat out say a Verizon Moto x wont work with a T-Mobile SIM or some other undocumented "fact"
Would a verizon sim work in a sprint or T-moblie phone?
I popped in my T-Mobile Sim card and I only get hspa+. I definitely live in a LTE area. Hmm...
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im from india i got moto x navy blue customized but device wont get signal dont know whats wrong tried to reset still no luck even getting the signal but instantly disappears and showing emergency only
So, I have a Verizon Moto X and popped in my T-Mobile sim card today and LTE popped up after a few seconds (I live in Boston). My LTE speeds on the internet worked instantly. However, I tried to send a text message and it wouldn't send. Not sure if I need to do anything else to get voice/text to work fine. Any ideas?
if you're on 4.4, you need to manually add APNs
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if you're on 4.4, you need to manually add APNs
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I just popped in the T-Mo sim card again and now text works no issues and calls. Not sure what happened, but oh well.
Now, is there any difference in me using a Verizon Moto X on T-Mobile compared to an AT&T Moto X on T-Mobile. I have both and have been using an AT&T one, but I am just curious.
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Do you know where I can find the APNs to fix this? I know how to access it on the phone, but just so I can find it.
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http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2090 <- That should have everything you need as far as the APN goes.
Guys I have customized Moto x but the gsm doesn't works not Able to connect network even im added apns what could be issue
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I fixed my issue. I ported my number into a Verizon unlimited data plan. Problem solved.
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Any help guys how to unlock gsm I can see gsm sim getting signal and immediately loosing and showing emergency only what could be issue
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Would a verizon sim work in a sprint or T-moblie phone?
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no because the sprint x is sim locked and doesn't use the same cdma setup, and the t-mobile doesn't support cdma/evdo that verizon uses for voice and 3g data
Hi,
Currently with Big Red but will switch to "someone" once contract is up 3rd qtr next year. Most probably because of the the price and I am sick of VZ dropping back to 3G most of the time where I am.
If I get a Verizon Moto X can I later use that on TMobile. And/rather, a Verizon Moto X can be used on which carriers - all or none
much appreciated.
If it's a developer edition then "I believe" you could use it on sprint. T-Mobile is a GSM carrier and since the only option on the CDMA phones is for global GSM for international travel that you will likely not get it to work. They don't have the radios in it to work on T-mobile. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Hi,
Currently with Big Red but will switch to "someone" once contract is up 3rd qtr next year. Most probably because of the the price and I am sick of VZ dropping back to 3G most of the time where I am.
If I get a Verizon Moto X can I later use that on TMobile. And/rather, a Verizon Moto X can be used on which carriers - all or none
much appreciated.
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This has been covered before yes it will. Verizon moto x is ( might be wrong) the only phone that is Sim unlocked besides T-Mobile and gsm developer edition. Tmobile Sim should work just fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2442735
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mawells787 said:
This has been covered before yes it will. Verizon moto x is ( might be wrong) the only phone that is Sim unlocked besides T-Mobile and gsm developer edition. Tmobile Sim should work just fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2442735
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I put a prepaid T-Mobile sim into my Dev Verizon Moto X, and I get good LTE speeds.
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I put a prepaid T-Mobile sim into my Dev Verizon Moto X, and I get good LTE speeds.
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Just seconding that I put a T-Mobile SIM in to my VZW dev edition Moto X (4.4), and it was SIM unlocked as expected, but also had good LTE signal, indicating that Band 4 is definitely enabled on these phones, contrary to published specs. Good news!
Can you make phone calls and send text messages with a T-Mo SIM in a VZW phone? Seems as if a CDMA phone would not work on a GSM network for calls and texts.
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scottjb said:
Can you make phone calls and send text messages with a T-Mo SIM in a VZW phone? Seems as if a CDMA phone would not work on a GSM network for calls and texts.
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Yes. I haven't done it with the Moto X yet, but I did it without issue previously with both the Verizon S4 and LG G2. It's part of an FCC agreement when Verizon got LTE. It's basically GSM unlocked. Data, text, and calls work.
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scottjb said:
Can you make phone calls and send text messages with a T-Mo SIM in a VZW phone? Seems as if a CDMA phone would not work on a GSM network for calls and texts.
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Most Verizon LTE phones have a GSM radio and work on AT&T and Tmobile
I made a call to verify it works, and I received text messages from T-Mobile.
I also didn't have to add APNs, it seemed to figure them out.
Sprint won't work. Cause most of the CDMA bands and LTE bands are different.
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But I'm pretty sure T-Mobile will cause it is Sim unlocked
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supr2nr said:
If it's a developer edition then "I believe" you could use it on sprint. T-Mobile is a GSM carrier and since the only option on the CDMA phones is for global GSM for international travel that you will likely not get it to work. They don't have the radios in it to work on T-mobile. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Yes, you are wrong. It does work with either a "retail" Verizon phone, or developer edition.
The big misconception is that since Verizon uses CDMA for voice and sms, that their phones only work on CDMA. This is NOT True.
Because Verizon's 4G LTE phones are "global" they support the same GSM/GPRS/Edge bands as ATT and T-Mobile for voice and data so they can be used globally on GSM carrier networks. Another little plus is that due to the FCC rules around their 700Mhz spectrum, they are SIM unlocked, so they happen to work with ATT and T-Mobile sim inserted. Since ATT uses the same bands for HSPA and HSPA+ as they do for EDGE, you can get HSPA speeds. In areas where T-Mobile's "network modernization" has refarmed their 1900Mhz edge to HSPA, you'll get HSPA speeds. In Tmobile areas that HSPA is still over AWS, you'll fall back to Edge when trying Verizon branded devices.
Using both developer and "retail" variants of the Verizon Moto X, I have inserted my T-Mobile SIM and had it work after setting the phones to "global". I've done the same with my iPhone 5, iPhone 5S, Blackberry Z10, Q10, Nokia Lumia 928, and Samsung Galaxy S4 and Note 3. Some of the phones, like the Z10 and 928 only gave me EDGE speeds the last time I tried them. The X and S4 have given me HSPA. T-Mobile recently rolled out LTE here, as putting the T-Mo Sim in my VZW iPhne 5S last week gave me T-Mo LTE for the first time. When i get time I'll have to go back and test my other devices again to see what they do.
With recent firmware updates on my X, note 3 and Galaxy S4, I have had to manually enter T-Mobile APN settings to get them to work.
scottjb said:
Can you make phone calls and send text messages with a T-Mo SIM in a VZW phone? Seems as if a CDMA phone would not work on a GSM network for calls and texts.
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Yes it does work as long as the APN settings come down automatically to your phone, or you manually enter the correct APN settings.
On a side note... some have asked if you can do the same with a Sprint phone (since they are cdma based too). The answer is..I don't know for sure, but it really depends. I haven't looked into the sprint phones to know their "global roaming" capabilities, and what radios and frequencies their devices support. I guess as long as their phones support the quad band GSM frequencies and are (or can be) SIM Unlocked, then you can do the same with Sprint phones to get at least Edge speeds. HSPA and LTE would again depend on the frequencies the sprint phones support, and the target carrier network uses.
Thank you everybody!!!
This is excellent info and more importantly very good details. I am very grateful...
Time to the Moto X with orange accents now
themogul said:
Hi,
Currently with Big Red but will switch to "someone" once contract is up 3rd qtr next year. Most probably because of the the price and I am sick of VZ dropping back to 3G most of the time where I am.
If I get a Verizon Moto X can I later use that on TMobile. And/rather, a Verizon Moto X can be used on which carriers - all or none
much appreciated.
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I put a T-mobile SIM in my stock 16GB Verizon Moto x. Here is what works and doesn't.
First off, 4G works! in the South Jersey area and it is Blistering fast, I have exceeded 40MB speed test downloads twice, Several in the high 30s and I am avg in mid 20s. Uploads are averaging 20+/- . Compared to Verizon this is like comparing Fios to 1999 era dial up. the best I ever got on Verizon 4G was 14 download but average between 4 and 9 !
The Network notification switches a lot between 4G, "H" mode, whatever that is, just bars and another which I didn't catch quick enough to read ?
Battery has been amazing compared to my galaxy Nexus, I got 7.5 hours of Actual "Screen on Time" which included some GPS use and an hour of music streaming total phone up time was 34+ hours. How long it will perform like this is anyone's guess, today i got about 6.5 of Screen on time. I hope this inst a trend
Now for the bad news - Using it as a Phone. Incoming calls are fine but, making outgoing is a Pain in the A$$.
When I dial a number, (which is a hassle on this KitKat dialer) it often goes to the home screen or back to the dialer. The Call Fails. I am not sure if my dialer is buggy or its a compatibility problem. the KitKat Dialer on the Moto X is an exorcise in futility. Google are you listening? Why reinvent the wheel. All I want in my Dialer is a Number Pad! and a phone book.
When I Open dialer I see Recent calls up top, the whole middle section says all contacts and is otherwise blank, the bottom has the number pad icon, History and settings dots.
Clicking the number pad icon enlarges the bottom section, which then goes all white and removes the three icons. I have to then click the back arrow and re-click the number pad icon to bring it up the actual dialer. .
At this time I can dial. and then the call always fails on the first attempt. Sometimes it takes several attempts to go through.
When I click send on the dialer the 4G disappears and I am left with just the bars. they come back when call is done but sometimes take a few minutes to do so.
If you Kill the dialer app or swipe it away, coming back to it you will have the same issues when trying to get the number pad (two attempts) if you dont, the number pad will open on first attempt. but the calls will still fail on the first try.
I also cant use the internet when in a call, whether WiFi is on or off. Is this a T-mobile problem? I could use the net in Verizon when in a call when on 4G or WiFi
The Data is set to global mode but I have tried both the other settings. On boot up I get a warning saying the SIM is not recognized which I just swipe away.
I am also having this problem. After making a call, the music player and the phones "volume" aspects cease to work., Meaning, I get no sound out of the phone, Music, notifications alarms etc.. This happens almost every time and the only fix is a reboot
I disabled all Verizon Bloat and a lot of Moto Bloat as well This could be causing some of the bugs? But i have tested several different configurations all with the same outcomes.
Hope this helps and puts an end to the - Will it work or not questions. There seem to be a lot of Net Know it all's that flat out say a Verizon Moto x wont work with a T-Mobile SIM or some other undocumented "fact"
I have the same issues as SOMFW. Disabling LTE resolves all these problems, so it seems like it's an issue with the LTE-to-2G/3G fallback for phone calls.
When I force it into HSPA+, I have both simultaneous voice and data and no dialing issues.
nethead25 said:
I have the same issues as SOMFW. Disabling LTE resolves all these problems, so it seems like it's an issue with the LTE-to-2G/3G fallback for phone calls.
When I force it into HSPA+, I have both simultaneous voice and data and no dialing issues.
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How did you disable 4G? or Force it into HSPA+? Is there a setting I am missing?
Somebody else mentioned Manually adding T-Mobile APN is this something you did?
On My Moto,x when using the Vz SIM there is an APN labeled Verizon that appears on its own, On the TM SIM it was blank
Also, while on the TM SIM under About Phone / Status My phone number doesn't show, On the Vz SIM it is there and the Dialer works fine. But I still get the Dialer Bug, which is, When I click the Keypad icon the bottom area goes blank and I have to hit the back button and repeat it. This only happens if I swipe the dialer out of running apps list, Force close it or haven't used it for several hours.
Any Ideas?
SOMFW said:
How did you disable 4G? or Force it into HSPA+? Is there a setting I am missing?
Somebody else mentioned Manually adding T-Mobile APN is this something you did?
On My Moto,x when using the Vz SIM there is an APN labeled Verizon that appears on its own, On the TM SIM it was blank
Also, while on the TM SIM under About Phone / Status My phone number doesn't show, On the Vz SIM it is there and the Dialer works fine. But I still get the Dialer Bug, which is, When I click the Keypad icon the bottom area goes blank and I have to hit the back button and repeat it. This only happens if I swipe the dialer out of running apps list, Force close it or haven't used it for several hours.
Any Ideas?
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These are the steps I used to turn off LTE and enable HSPA:
1) Download/install the app LTE OnOff
2) Change Mobile Network type in Settings to LTE / GSM / UMTS
3) On LTE OnOff, hit the Three-Dot menu in the top right, and select "Select radio band"
4) Select USA Band
5) Hit the Turn Off Radio button
6) Select GSM auto (PRL) under Preferred Network Type
7) Turn On Radio
The phone should show no data for a second, then 3G, then eventually an H for HSPA will be displayed.
You can also try GSM only or WCDMA preferred if GSM auto doesn't work.
Still trying to figure out how to get LTE to play nice with it.
There is a known LTE bug that causes this issue in 4.4. Check aracanexvi's thread in the Droid Ultra section. Basically we will need to leave LTE off of you want to make calls reliably.
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Would be easier if I just shared the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2591954
4.4 and Non-VZW carriers
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Which one are people having better luck with, at or T-Mobile?
can you put a T-Mobile ROM for it to work as well?
Using Verizon Moto X (locked Verizon retail) on ATT should be as good as using it on Tmobile, assuming I don't need LTE ?
Thanks.
I had the original Moto X and just got the new Moto X 2014 on Tuesday. When i'm in the middle of a phone call i get a message saying data is unavailable. During the time of the call I'm on LTE and i never had this issue with the original Moto X. Why is it different with the new Moto X. does anyone know if there is a fix?
eugene8025 said:
I had the original Moto X and just got the new Moto X 2014 on Tuesday. When i'm in the middle of a phone call i get a message saying data is unavailable. During the time of the call I'm on LTE and i never had this issue with the original Moto X. Why is it different with the new Moto X. does anyone know if there is a fix?
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Data + Voice will not be available until Verizon releases Advanced Calling 1.0 apk. Will have to use VoLTE. See article here > http://phandroid.com/2014/09/20/verizon-moto-x-launch-without-simultaneous-voice-data/
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Data + Voice will not be available until Verizon releases Advanced Calling 1.0 apk. Will have to use VoLTE. See article here > http://phandroid.com/2014/09/20/verizon-moto-x-launch-without-simultaneous-voice-data/
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ahh i see.. thanks for the info! much appreciated!
How will this technology work if one is driving (i.e. calling being routed through the VoIP LTE) and then geographically falls outside of an LTE zone?
I can see how this technology causes frustration. I work in Sales and am constantly holding calls via Bluetooth while driving.
Comp625 said:
How will this technology work if one is driving (i.e. calling being routed through the VoIP LTE) and then geographically falls outside of an LTE zone?
I can see how this technology causes frustration. I work in Sales and am constantly holding calls via Bluetooth while driving.
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My understanding is that your call will only be via VOLTE if you are doing voice+data. Under this circumstance, your voice call will be dropped when you are no longer within range of LTE.
cam30era said:
My understanding is that your call will only be via VOLTE if you are doing voice+data. Under this circumstance, your voice call will be dropped when you are no longer within range of LTE. On the other hand, if it is voice only (without data), it will hand off to 3G.
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Incorrect.
Straight out if verizons faq. If you enable volte (advanced calling 1.0) and place any call from a 4g area it will *always* drop if the phone moves to a 3g area.
A call placed in a 3g area will continue on 3g if you move into a LTE area (not drop).
The only way to avoid drop calls is not enable volte. in which case your new moto x will never have voice and data simultaneously.
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Incorrect.
Straight out if verizons faq. If you enable volte (advanced calling 1.0) and place a call from a 4g area it will *always* drop if the phone moves to a 3g area.
A call placed in a 3g area will continue on 3g if you move into a LTE area (not drop).
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Thanks for setting the record straight.
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Thanks for setting the record straight.
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Sure thing. Verizon is not advertising that fact very well. Its frustrating because they don't have 100% LTE coverage. I will drop calls pulling into my driveway once volte is turned on...
Restola said:
Sure thing. Verizon is not advertising that fact very well. Its frustrating because they don't have 100% LTE coverage. I will drop calls pulling into my driveway once volte is turned on...
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They can stick volte, right up their a$$, its complete garbage, only works between 2 volte phones, drops calls. Yet the went ahead and gimped this device in some kind of thoughtless preparation for the half baked volte plan. Thanks Verizon for ruining data during calls. Idiots!
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They can stick volte, right up their a$$, its complete garbage, only works between 2 volte phones, drops calls. Yet the went ahead and gimped this device in some kind of thoughtless preparation for the half baked volte plan. Thanks Verizon for ruining data during calls. Idiots!
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HD voice and instant video calls will only work between two volte devices. However all calls will be transmitted as data once you enable volte in your account and on your phone.
Another reason to never activate the steaming heap. Head to the country side, and data goes in and out swapping towers and landing in 1x at times. Yet in those areas regular voice services work fine. So it would be a huge downgrade for me and most people I know. Verizon is plain stupid for pulling the trigger on this. Thanks for the info, I know even better to steer clear now.
And they complained
during the switch from AMPS to CDMA, too.
So this is a very serious issue about the x2 Vzw phone?
Is this a deal breaker?
aviwdoowks said:
So this is a very serious issue about the x2 Vzw phone?
Is this a deal breaker?
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I've read that all new vzw phones will work like this. Curious to know if the note 4 has the two radios or will also rely on volte like the iPhone 6 and new Moto x do.
I've seen the news that simultaneous voice and data doesn't work on the N6 on Verizon out of the box. Curious what people think the chances are that it will work at some point without the need to root and unlock?
They have gone to using just one antenna as is the same for the Droid Turbo. VOLTE should be coming to the N6 in the near future.
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I've seen the news that simultaneous voice and data doesn't work on the N6 on Verizon out of the box. Curious what people think the chances are that it will work at some point without the need to root and unlock?
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Rooting/unlocking will have no impact on this. It, like all new Verizon devices, requires "Advance Calling 1.0" which Verizon hasn't pushed to any new devices at this point. Assuming Verizon supports the device then it will get the update at some point.
Assuming the phone is made available from Verizon directly I can see simultaneous voice and data being available. I should have been more clear about my question applying to phones bought from Google or Motorola directly.
akellar said:
Rooting/unlocking will have no impact on this. It, like all new Verizon devices, requires "Advance Calling 1.0" which Verizon hasn't pushed to any new devices at this point. Assuming Verizon supports the device then it will get the update at some point.
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Iphone 6 and 6 Plus has it. I just switched to Verizon from Tmo and got 3 devices, 2x iPhone 6+ and Droid Turbo. Now, Turbo I had to get as that line is for business, but it will be sold for a Nexus 6. Tmobile definitely had better voice quality and I was always iffy about going to a CDMA carrier as I used to work and knew a lot about CDMA for Sprint. However, fact that they pretty much have their entire network covered with LTE made me decide to try.
Point is, with Advanced Calling 1.0 you can definitely tell the voice quality difference and using LTE while being on the phone is nice, same way it was on T-Mobile... The fact that Droid Turbo doesn't have this and is one of the premier Verizon Devices saddens me...
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Point is, with Advanced Calling 1.0 you can definitely tell the voice quality difference and using LTE while being on the phone is nice, same way it was on T-Mobile... The fact that Droid Turbo doesn't have this and is one of the premier Verizon Devices saddens me...
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do you happen to know if turning off the advanced calling 1.0 on the phone will disable the simultaneous voice/data?
i was reading some wiggy things (in verizon's faq, no less) about needing to turn off the adv calling if you're going to be bouncing between LTE & 3G or its going to to drop calls. but my partner makes a ton of calls during her (SF to sacramento) commute when she needs to have data to look at.
if its just the VoLTE you can turn off, that would be great; but if it's the whole package... well, that's going to be a problem.
I am very curious about how this will work in practice as well, to the point where I may not upgrade until volte has been live for a few weeks. I have grown used to just knowing voice and data works...I am worried volte isn't going to work very well.
I'm wondering what is going to work with an unlocked Nexus 6 on Verizon. 3G? XLTE? visual voice mail? my Verizon? Asurion insurance?
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bigyak22 said:
I'm wondering what is going to work with an unlocked Nexus 6 on Verizon. 3G? XLTE? visual voice mail? my Verizon? Asurion insurance?
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Nexu6 has an XLTE chip?
williamentropy said:
do you happen to know if turning off the advanced calling 1.0 on the phone will disable the simultaneous voice/data?
i was reading some wiggy things (in verizon's faq, no less) about needing to turn off the adv calling if you're going to be bouncing between LTE & 3G or its going to to drop calls. but my partner makes a ton of calls during her (SF to sacramento) commute when she needs to have data to look at.
if its just the VoLTE you can turn off, that would be great; but if it's the whole package... well, that's going to be a problem.
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Hi, sorry for late reply. But yes, it will. I got an email from Verizon as well as text telling me how to enable it. And I do see a difference in voice quality when Data+Voice is enabled. It is done via Settings - Cellular and then switch it away from Data only. I drove out while on the phone last night and I managed to lose LTE signal, my call didn't disconnect. However, I did notice odd things with it still. One time my phone went to 1x while in my pocket in a good LTE coverage area. When I took it out and saw 1x I immediately got a Voice Mail notification... I never got a call though.
the only thing making me want to return my Nexus 6 is that I can't simultaneously use data and voice on Verizon.
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Hi, sorry for late reply. But yes, it will. I got an email from Verizon as well as text telling me how to enable it. And I do see a difference in voice quality when Data+Voice is enabled. It is done via Settings - Cellular and then switch it away from Data only. I drove out while on the phone last night and I managed to lose LTE signal, my call didn't disconnect. However, I did notice odd things with it still. One time my phone went to 1x while in my pocket in a good LTE coverage area. When I took it out and saw 1x I immediately got a Voice Mail notification... I never got a call though.
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I'm on Verizon also but don't see that option. Can you please provide more details
roadratx said:
I'm on Verizon also but don't see that option. Can you please provide more details
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He has an iPhone 6 or 6+ which already supports Advanced Calling 1.0. The Nexus 6 doesn't. Yet at least.
Just for some clarity, Advanced Calling 1.0 and XLTE are Verizon marketing buzzwords for VoLTE and AWS respectively.
You can't do simultaneous voice and data on this device, or some other recent devices because there is only one antenna for both CDMA and LTE, while many previous devices had one for each.
Once you get Advanced Calling 1.0 on your account and device, the CDMA chip is not used and both voice and data go over LTE. Since VoLTE is just another type of transmitted data over LTE, it can do both.
Advanced Calling 1.0 on Verizon WILL drop if you leave LTE coverage as Verizon does not have any way to hand down from LTE to CDMA gracefully. This is different from TMobile and AT&T who can hand down to their HSPA networks. If you had a call going and it didn't drop when you lost LTE, it wasn't a VoLTE call in the first place. It's possible either the call started on 3G, the option wasn't enabled on your phone, or the option wasn't enabled on your account. I'm sorry if I sound patronizing, but Verizon's VoLTE is completely incapable of keeping a call going if you drop from LTE.
Finally, XLTE is just Verizon's term for the extra 10x10 or 20x20MHz of high frequency AWS spectrum they acquired. It's not a new type of LTE, but might as well be because the real world speeds are so much better than the normal low frequency 700MHz band of their original LTE, mostly due to fewer users, more bandwidth, and cleaner RF at the high frequency.
There's no XLTE "chip" as much as looking in the LTE band support and checking for band 4. 700MHz Verizon LTE is band 13, and they will soon start deploying more LTE on band 2. It's a matter of antenna tuning and modem support mostly.
JesusFreak316 said:
He has an iPhone 6 or 6+ which already supports Advanced Calling 1.0. The Nexus 6 doesn't. Yet at least.
Just for some clarity, Advanced Calling 1.0 and XLTE are Verizon marketing buzzwords for VoLTE and AWS respectively.
You can't do simultaneous voice and data on this device, or some other recent devices because there is only one antenna for both CDMA and LTE, while many previous devices had one for each.
Once you get Advanced Calling 1.0 on your account and device, the CDMA chip is not used and both voice and data go over LTE. Since VoLTE is just another type of transmitted data over LTE, it can do both.
Advanced Calling 1.0 on Verizon WILL drop if you leave LTE coverage as Verizon does not have any way to hand down from LTE to CDMA gracefully. This is different from TMobile and AT&T who can hand down to their HSPA networks. If you had a call going and it didn't drop when you lost LTE, it wasn't a VoLTE call in the first place. It's possible either the call started on 3G, the option wasn't enabled on your phone, or the option wasn't enabled on your account. I'm sorry if I sound patronizing, but Verizon's VoLTE is completely incapable of keeping a call going if you drop from LTE.
Finally, XLTE is just Verizon's term for the extra 10x10 or 20x20MHz of high frequency AWS spectrum they acquired. It's not a new type of LTE, but might as well be because the real world speeds are so much better than the normal low frequency 700MHz band of their original LTE, mostly due to fewer users, more bandwidth, and cleaner RF at the high frequency.
There's no XLTE "chip" as much as looking in the LTE band support and checking for band 4. 700MHz Verizon LTE is band 13, and they will soon start deploying more LTE on band 2. It's a matter of antenna tuning and modem support mostly.
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Exactly what he said. And trust me, it isn't as good as what T-Mobile uses.
Let me ask you this, do you think T-Mobile is overall a better network in Metro areas? I loved my service on T-Mobile... From fast data speeds to very clear voice, amazing! Switching to verizon was a nightmare. Even on VOLTE it isn't very clear, calls do drop and I am getting low speeds or regular 3g in places T-Mobile had LTE in Atlanta. I do know that rural coverage and indoor is better on Verizon, but my experience has been bad.
Any updates? Royally pisseddd I can't do voice n data like I can on my lg g3. Fill like I stepped back in time and att tmo mocking vzw all over again for no voice n data
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moosc said:
Any updates? Royally pisseddd I can't do voice n data like I can on my lg g3. Fill like I stepped back in time and att tmo mocking vzw all over again for no voice n data
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We have had voice and data almost 2 weeks now. Update to version 5. 1. D, enable it on your phone and on Verizon. enjoy
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How to get Simultaneous Voice and Data to work on Nexus 6
After updating your Nexus 6 to Android 5.1, you will find a setting hidden inside a Phone Settings menu that allows you to enable VoLTE and then an “Enhanced 4G LTE Mode.” With both of these options toggled on, you can then make calls and “surf the web.” Glory!
In order to enable the setting on your phone, head into the dialer and type in *#*#4636#*#*. When you hit that last *, your phone will jump into the hidden settings menu. Choose “Phone info” and then scroll down until you see an option for “TURN ON VOLTE PROVISIONED FLAG.” Tap that and then reboot your phone (I had to reboot twice for some reason to get it to work). Once booted, head into your phone’s regular settings menu, tap on “More” under “Wireless & networks,” then “Cellular networks.” You should now see an option for “Enhanced 4G LTE Mode” and it should be toggled on.
Note: There is a chance that you may need HD Voice added to your Verizon account. To do that, you will need to sign-in to your Verizon account and add the feature, which is free.
Go ahead and place a call with WiFi off and see if you can access a web page or an app that uses data. All good? In order to keep this functionality, you will need to leave Enhanced 4G LTE Mode turned on.
Hi.... noticed this thread hasn't been active for awhile. Just wanted to confirm that I did this today with my Nexus 6, and everything worked fine. Had to have HD Voice put on my line for free, and had to reboot. But definitely have simultaneous voice/data now.
I just did this on my Nexus 6. Works great so far. Was able to make a call and browse several web pages at the same time. Awesome info thank you!
yotehtr1 said:
I just did this on my Nexus 6. Works great so far. Was able to make a call and browse several web pages at the same time. Awesome info thank you!
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have you upgraded to MARSHMALLOW?
has anyone with a pure edition on at&t been able to get volte to work?
no
AT&T doesn't really offer volte. If they do, is very market specific.
Yea I live in southeastern Virginia and we have volte here. Just trying to figure out what has to be done to the phone to make it work.
Certain SOC codes need to be added to your AT&T account to enable VoLTE. However, the Moto X is not compatible with the service. (Yet.)