Does anyone have a template (for making an adapter) for connecting to the USB pins while the watch is being worn? I'm imagining a "shim" only 1-2mm or so thick that clips onto the back.
The particular use case I'm looking at is a wearable EKG for fitness use. The EKG would have its own battery (and actually charges the watch) and possibly integrate other functions like a more accurate pedometer, respiratory rate, GPS, maybe even energy harvesting. It would implement ADK or ADB (the way boards like Kelly Wu and IOIO do) to send the data.
NiHaoMike said:
Does anyone have a template (for making an adapter) for connecting to the USB pins while the watch is being worn? I'm imagining a "shim" only 1-2mm or so thick that clips onto the back.
The particular use case I'm looking at is a wearable EKG for fitness use. The EKG would have its own battery (and actually charges the watch) and possibly integrate other functions like a more accurate pedometer, respiratory rate, GPS, maybe even energy harvesting. It would implement ADK or ADB (the way boards like Kelly Wu and IOIO do) to send the data.
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I don't know the set up for the pins myself, but I do remember seeing something about it it here somewhere...
However, wouldn't it be easier to have your monitor connect to the USB from the phone? Or to a Bluetooth module that could sync with the gear/phone?
Found a charger that looks wearable
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I don't know the set up for the pins myself, but I do remember seeing something about it it here somewhere...
However, wouldn't it be easier to have your monitor connect to the USB from the phone? Or to a Bluetooth module that could sync with the gear/phone?
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I had done a search recently on Amazon for a charger for the gear.. There are a few that look like they are low profile enough to wear them.
I cannot post any links yet so my key words in amazon were " Samsung+Gear+ Charger "
WHY DON't they release this?
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this looks pretty sick!
Why?
Becuase it's a clunky Security device for a store display. those people dont talk to marketed product designers usually. So, their ingenuity in making it work in the store doesn't get passed down to consumers.
looks like something Steamfunky!
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DrNicket
~ Take my 2 cents and PM me in the morning.
Tho you do recognize it's compactness right? Of course you understand we're referring ONLY to the metal covering with the cable that charges the watch, NOT the huge ass plastic box beneath it....just to be clear....
You have to admit it's a hell of a lot more sleek than those plastic cradles available on eBay.
VS
Do you like it?
Great suggestion for a Samsung Gear "FIT" accessory.
"The particular use case I'm looking at is a wearable EKG for fitness use. The EKG would have its own battery (and actually charges the watch) and possibly integrate other functions like a more accurate pedometer, respiratory rate, GPS, maybe even energy harvesting. It would implement ADK or ADB (the way boards like Kelly Wu and IOIO do) to send the data."
That is a great business idea:
1. Active and Continuous EKG (not the type that is touch activated)
2. Pedometer
3. Sleep Pattern
4. Calorie Counter (possibly derived from EKG, pedometer and Sleep Data)
5. Respiratory Rate
I would think the GPS is redundant since you are not going to part with your phone anyways. And it will be a battery drainer.
If anybody has seen anything close to this, please let me know.
Thanks
Gopi
i like where this is going. hopefully mine is on its way here today, this is something i was hoping to play with. it would be cool to use the watch as your interface for extras. even possibly setting it up with these things to use on its own (i think its a cheap dev tool/starting place at under $200 now)
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Tho you do recognize it's compactness right? Of course you understand we're referring ONLY to the metal covering with the cable that charges the watch, NOT the huge ass plastic box beneath it....just to be clear....
You have to admit it's a hell of a lot more sleek than those plastic cradles available on eBay.
VS
Do you like it?
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I like all. Here all are looking nice.. Thanks for posting..:good:
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Ok, there should be enough people here who either know the technical specs or, from some insane drive to know how everything works, have taken their Kaiser/Tilts apart and can answer this.
I'm using a new EMail program (SEVEN) that maintains an always-on data connection. I'm trying to find out if I should be worried about the radiation/signals my phone is putting out.
For those of you who wonder: Yes, I've done my research here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428065&highlight=radiation), and, while I do appreciate humor, I'd love something more than flip answers. ;-) Call me a worrier.
I've surmised (and been told) that an always-on data connection is not the same as if you were constantly talking on the phone...only to have that thought countered with the fact that the radio of the phone still has to be broadcasting, even with a "mostly-silent-yet-always-on" data connection...which means radiation nonetheless. And the circle of logic/worry continues.
Does anyone who knows enough about constant data connections and the Tilt's radio shed some light on this? I'd REALLY appreciate it! Thanks!
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Ok, there should be enough people here who either know the technical specs or, from some insane drive to know how everything works, have taken their Kaiser/Tilts apart and can answer this.
I'm using a new EMail program (SEVEN) that maintains an always-on data connection. I'm trying to find out if I should be worried about the radiation/signals my phone is putting out.
For those of you who wonder: Yes, I've done my research here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428065&highlight=radiation), and, while I do appreciate humor, I'd love something more than flip answers. ;-) Call me a worrier.
I've surmised (and been told) that an always-on data connection is not the same as if you were constantly talking on the phone...only to have that thought countered with the fact that the radio of the phone still has to be broadcasting, even with a "mostly-silent-yet-always-on" data connection...which means radiation nonetheless. And the circle of logic/worry continues.
Does anyone who knows enough about constant data connections and the Tilt's radio shed some light on this? I'd REALLY appreciate it! Thanks!
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Well, you could always hold your gieger counter up to the phone and measure the mSv, but it would be so miniscule as to not be of any significant concern. The average background radiation level is 2.405 mSv, (0.02405 REM), while the HTC Kaiser has an average radiation output of 0.159 mSv, (0.00159 REM). Taking into account background radiation, and a Kaiser in your pocket, you are exposed to approximatly 2.564 mSv, (0.002564 REM). You are well below the safe radiation level for even radiation workers in the United States, which has been established at 50 mSv. In order to be in any danger from radiation, you would need to exceed 51 REM, (5100 mSv). before even temporary sterility may result. For a potentially lethal dose, you would need to come into contact with radiation levels exceeding 101 REM, (10100 mSv). It is highly improbable one will be exposed to a harmful level of radiation from a cellular telephone.
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If you place silver foil on your head, it'll bounce the radiation away...
Typical no worry scenario gama phones don't exist and there are so many carsonegenics in the world that where would we stop.
My point is no worries.
"don't believe the hype"
While it will not effect you,holding it up to your ear, whatever you do, do not keep your phone in your pocket, while connected.
Otherwise within a year, " Big Jim and the Twins " will shrivel up to nothing. Be fore warned ....................................oh wait, or is that steroids ?
I forget, anyway, better safe than sorry
ChumleyEX:
Classic
I wonder if they sell them in different colours?
denco7: No longer will my pocket cohabit my phone
For the baseball fan.
I would sumerize that leaving the data connection on gave this man his power (and I was told too)
You guys are hilarious. ;-P
Thanks to those of you who were took the time to answer. To give some additional background: I'm not putting it in my pocket; I'm wearing it in a belt-clip holster/carrier, so it would be my kidneys I'd be worried about.
Also, keep in mind that I'm concerned about cancer effects over time. I saw the radiation measurements k-semler provided...those small doses are OK intermittently...are they OK every day for a few years?
I use a bluetooth earpiece, so I'm OK with my head (the earpiece is designed to power down after several minutes of inactivity).
I would think a Dr or someone would know about that. Just make sure you keep it near the kidney that isn't near your liver.
I normally keep my phone in a cargo pocket.. The knees love radiation.
Not sure when or if Defy will get its own Deck Dock. But my wife got me these somewhat useless business card holders. However, as they're steel, I stuck a magnet to the back, put in my Defy and voila! Deck Dock!
http://www.officedepot.com/a/produc...t-Metro-Mesh-Business-Card/?cm_cat=2000000351
Can you post a pic of your phone in it please
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Can you post a pic of your phone in it please
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No... well, OK: lousy pictures but you get the picture. First shows magnet, second "docked" Defy. (Magnet came from Radio Shack).
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Wouldn't the BB Torch's charging dock suit?
Hi all,
Within weeks I'll receive my first Android phone, after 5 years using WM. Really hope to get adapted to this new platform. It's that I'm that lucky guy who has happened to win Clove's Motorola Defy giveaway competition .
Anyway, this is purely theoretical, but I have noticed that the Blackberry Torch 9800, closed, is slightly bigger than the Defy, in all 3 dimensions. Besides, its charging dock + home charger (you'll be able to find some of them on eBay, like e.g. this one) takes the Torch in landscape mode, and seems to have its male micro-USB port more to the right side, related to its center, which could match the Defy's. Don't know whether it bears a magnet or not, though. Or, if it is be placed in the same location as required by the Defy sensor. Despite all 'ifs', I wonder if the Defy would fit in.
Anyone here would be brave enough to try one of those and see if it fits?
Just my 2 cents...
Regards,
Carlos
Do you have a BB Torch to compare? The USB adpater would have to be in the same orientation as the Defy's, which is "upside down" (narrow edge up). You'd have to have room to move the USB cover aside on the Defy too.
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Do you have a BB Torch to compare? The USB adpater would have to be in the same orientation as the Defy's, which is "upside down" (narrow edge up). You'd have to have room to move the USB cover aside on the Defy too.
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Unfortunately, not. It was pure speculation. Maybe someone here can make a simple test...
According to Mobilefun.co.uk, this thing should fit the defy as well...
Anyone feel like taking one for the team and putting their claims to the test? Looks like a nice dock but I'm afraid that A) it won't fit snugly and B) the usb cover will get in the way.
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According to Mobilefun.co.uk, this thing should fit the defy as well...
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It might be worth asking them if they can provide photos to back up their claim.
It's in their best interest after all as I'm sure a few of us are interested in finding a decent desktop dock for their Defy.
What? Milestone (Droid)'s dock?
I don't see how the Milestone's dock would suit the Defy, since the former's micro-USB port is to the left, whilst the latter's is to the right.
I might me heavily wrong though (as usual)...
Regards,
Carlos
Anyone had any luck finding a dock for this thing? I am interested as well.
Some guy's come up with a DIY Dock, credits to uploader
Sorry can't paste links so go to youtube and type in "Motorola Defy media dock"
Looks neat
It's made of cardboard - cereal box style. Good effort tho.
Could be a market for aftermarket stands if someone wants to make them... worked for a guy on maemo.org for the N900. He made them out of laser cut wood and sold them via an online shop he set up. Was very popular.
Considering one of these docks
There are lots of docks for the droids and milestones but none designed for the defy yet. But I did come across a couple candidates that I am considering and wondered if anyone had tried either of them yet.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003DM4KLW/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=A2LD2YC4L2Z2RO
http://www.clingo.com/home-and-office/universal-podium/
I am leaning towards the first one listed from amazon but the second also looks pretty nice. Neither has a build in charger that will line up with the defy but they have plenty of open space to allow for a usb to plug in.
I use a Clingo which is simple. It doesn't have the magnet required to automatically activate dock mode, of course.
I ordered a cheap desk stand from eBay, for the galaxy SII and the 4x HD fits perfectly!
I also customised a dock for my car, got fed up with trying to squeeze the phone into a rubbish looking universal mount, then connecting a trailing cable. So I hid the cables hard-wired behind the dash, and dremel'd the dock to shape, bent it with a hot air-gun, clamping it in a vice. Getting the connector to stay in place took a hot glue gun. (leaving a cavity underneath means I can still reach my headlight switch, not that i use it, I leave it set to on 100% of the time on the Volvo, as it makes no difference - the daytime running lights are set up to be the main dipped headlights anyway!)
I think now I've got a working prototype I'll buy another and redo it a bit neater. (The dock is only about £4 from china!) as the plastic has reacted a bit to the heat!
The dock is simply squeezed into the gap in the dash trim, it holds fine.
The phone jiggles a bit and it isn't angled towards the driver quite right, but it's fine, and certainly easier than having to fiddle the phone and charger in every time I get in the car!
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look great !!! cool man ^^
I Should add, people have commented on two things - firstly in a crash it's going to fly out very easy and be dangerous (Though surely any cheap phone mount will also! Only something like a Brodit will hold it very securely)
Secondly (and quite worryingly!) Perhaps the charging socket will wear out from sitting wobbling around?
Nice but isn't mobile blocking your air-conditioning channel?
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Yeah, but sitting in the flow of air wasn't a big deal for me. Most universal mounts mount onto a vent!
I since removed this! Firstly, the phone wobbles quite a lot - I was worried that the charging socket could get worn out.
Also, in the event of a crash it would fly around quite easily!
I now use a Clingo, but I modified it by screwing the tip of the ball-joint onto a Brodit base, so it's held next to my stereo
Hi, can you please give the url for the dock you bought ?
Thanks.
elepreta found
Wow!! what a creative idea, charging and cooling at the same time. Good job.
@Ben-B can you post the ebay link? looks like a really good idea for us 4x drivers. I assume ANY S2 docks will do right?
Life'sGood said:
@Ben-B can you post the ebay link? looks like a really good idea for us 4x drivers. I assume ANY S2 docks will do right?
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I have one like this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sync-Charge-Cradle-Dock-Station-Charger-For-Samsung-Galaxy-S2-S3-S4-i9300-i9500-/231021608377?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&var=&hash=item35c9f5fdb9
Though I've now added a shim of card (taped on the back part with black electrical tape) to hold it at just the right angle.
Just to clarify, I'm just talking about desk stands here, the car cradle idea was just me bodging a desk stand, but I don't use that any more.
I doubt a real G S2 car cradle will hold the 4x, the width would have to be the same and I'm sure it's not!
So it has already started, people are loosing and damaging their cradles already. This is going to create a need for a new cradle or another way to charge and sync the unit.
Ever since I first opened the box to my gear I wondered WTF Samsung was thinking with this cradle. There has to be a better way, and hopefully I have found one.
On the back of the watch are 2 small screws. My goal is to use 2 tiny magnets to hold a cable to the back side of the watch via these screws. This will make the cable MUCH smaller and no longer require a massive case to be carried around.
Current status:
Contacted a few companies and have a few different connectors coming in to see what will connect best.
PCB design will all depend on the connector we go with
V1 case design is already started for the housing. I will be printing a few samples out with a makerbot in a week or so and will post up
I hope to have an entire v1 test unit done within the next week or 2. I would have this done earlier but I have a massive fluid mechanics midterm tomorrow then will be heading out of town for the rest of the week for work. I should be back in town on Saturday and will be sitting in front of the makerbot and a soldering iron all day. Please stay tuned for updates.
Also all criticism is welcome, tell me what you think, the only thing I ask is to make it constructive. If you think this is a stupid idea because it will not work for some reason, let me know and why. I am a mechanical engineer with a concentration in structural analysis. I know only what I have taught myself about electronics so I admit I dont know as much as many others.
***UPDATES***
10/31/2013
Currently working on getting sync capabilities working. I have a feeling Samsug did 1 of 2 things
1. Chip requirement like apples cables to allow sync
2. Power on data line
Either way this weekend I should be able to get the sync feature working or at least have parts on order to do so. First run on the spring loaded contact pins were pretty good, but I am going to need something longer. Once the case goes over the PCB board they will no longer be able to connect with the back of the watch. Here is what I am working with at the moment.
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How'd ya like that for a ghetto macguyver job. LOLZ
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How'd ya like that for a ghetto macguyver job. LOLZ
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Points for effort !
Got the 1st set of spring pins connectors in. They work but will not be long enough once a case is designed for the unit. Back to ordering more $0.08 1/16" pins!
Try to check the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2493181&page=5
Pins which You found seems to be very nice and will work well, but regarding the magnetic mounting - check if the screws are magnetic - if they are stainless steel (which they almost for sure are) they will not be magnetic... so this will not hold... the other issue is if the watch has sensors inside they may not like the strong magnetic field...
Can't wait to be able to buy one lol
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Can't wait to be able to buy one lol
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I think my charger just also died... Darn!!..
Better go to samsung tomorrow...
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if they are stainless steel (which they almost for sure are) they will not be magnetic
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Depends, not all stainless steel is the same. Depends on the blend. Some are quite magnetic.
I do a lot of homework comparing specs when shopping for devices, but always forget to consider accessories.
I guess I am also cheap, but spending 75$ + on smartphone holder seems silly.So, like with my GNex it's time to build docks and stands again.
More will come, this time with turbo charging and Qi instead of pogo pins.
This stand was a quickie until I get a chance to do more serious tinkering.
The section base is from an old broken and undersized universal stand
The main bracket is from some IKEA cabinet I cant find link to.
The magnets are neodymium similar to BAC6 BAC6
The rest is random screws & bolts from the junk box.
I still need to cut/drill the bracket to allow for connection of car charger, pics to follow when I get access to tools next week. It holds good on kevlar back especially with the slight support from bracket lip underneath. Finding a good suction surface in the car is another story...
I open the floor to questions.
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Interesting, but looks a little "home made". But if that doesn't bother you, that's fine
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Interesting, but looks a little "home made". But if that doesn't bother you, that's fine
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Thus the home-made in the title.
There are a little bit less than ZERO accesories for sale here in Norway,, and I enjoy tinkering.
If you check out the Galaxy Nexus forum there were many people creating their own cool docks and chargers.
I don't use the phone as a status symbol, so it doesn't bother me.
I won't switch to an iPhone just for the accessories so I gotta make my own.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/accessories/diy-workshop-mods-homemade-docks-t1700672
subvertz said:
Thus the home-made in the title.
There are a little bit less than ZERO accesories for sale here in Norway,, and I enjoy tinkering.
If you check out the Galaxy Nexus forum there were many people creating their own cool docks and chargers.
I don't use the phone as a status symbol, so it doesn't bother me.
I won't switch to an iPhone just for the accessories so I gotta make my own.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/accessories/diy-workshop-mods-homemade-docks-t1700672
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I respect your stance about status symbols, and I applaud you for taking the time to invent your own car mount. I don't think I would have the patience or capability.
It would be pretty neat if you integrate a QI charger into that
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It would be pretty neat if you integrate a QI charger into that
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You are right, that would be cool. I wish they would make a screen protector that wraps around the back of the phone and connects into the battery-- the screen protector could be a mini solar panel, and any light the screen sees would be converted in to energy. How about that for an idea?
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You are right, that would be cool. I wish they would make a screen protector that wraps around the back of the phone and connects into the battery-- the screen protector could be a mini solar panel, and any light the screen sees would be converted in to energy. How about that for an idea?
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that's an interesting thought. But the issue with be the solar panel but the circuitry to regulate and control the power. A phone case would be thick enough though. Intergrate seven Qi wireless solar power charging. Boom!
Edit: I used speak to text to write that. You have failed me Google. But I'm not fixing it, figure it out
Nice bit of handy work. How comes you didn't just go for one of those universal type holders? There's plenty available on the market with most shipping to Norway?
Either way, good work on the one you made :good: