Ok, there should be enough people here who either know the technical specs or, from some insane drive to know how everything works, have taken their Kaiser/Tilts apart and can answer this.
I'm using a new EMail program (SEVEN) that maintains an always-on data connection. I'm trying to find out if I should be worried about the radiation/signals my phone is putting out.
For those of you who wonder: Yes, I've done my research here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428065&highlight=radiation), and, while I do appreciate humor, I'd love something more than flip answers. ;-) Call me a worrier.
I've surmised (and been told) that an always-on data connection is not the same as if you were constantly talking on the phone...only to have that thought countered with the fact that the radio of the phone still has to be broadcasting, even with a "mostly-silent-yet-always-on" data connection...which means radiation nonetheless. And the circle of logic/worry continues.
Does anyone who knows enough about constant data connections and the Tilt's radio shed some light on this? I'd REALLY appreciate it! Thanks!
Superion said:
Ok, there should be enough people here who either know the technical specs or, from some insane drive to know how everything works, have taken their Kaiser/Tilts apart and can answer this.
I'm using a new EMail program (SEVEN) that maintains an always-on data connection. I'm trying to find out if I should be worried about the radiation/signals my phone is putting out.
For those of you who wonder: Yes, I've done my research here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428065&highlight=radiation), and, while I do appreciate humor, I'd love something more than flip answers. ;-) Call me a worrier.
I've surmised (and been told) that an always-on data connection is not the same as if you were constantly talking on the phone...only to have that thought countered with the fact that the radio of the phone still has to be broadcasting, even with a "mostly-silent-yet-always-on" data connection...which means radiation nonetheless. And the circle of logic/worry continues.
Does anyone who knows enough about constant data connections and the Tilt's radio shed some light on this? I'd REALLY appreciate it! Thanks!
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Well, you could always hold your gieger counter up to the phone and measure the mSv, but it would be so miniscule as to not be of any significant concern. The average background radiation level is 2.405 mSv, (0.02405 REM), while the HTC Kaiser has an average radiation output of 0.159 mSv, (0.00159 REM). Taking into account background radiation, and a Kaiser in your pocket, you are exposed to approximatly 2.564 mSv, (0.002564 REM). You are well below the safe radiation level for even radiation workers in the United States, which has been established at 50 mSv. In order to be in any danger from radiation, you would need to exceed 51 REM, (5100 mSv). before even temporary sterility may result. For a potentially lethal dose, you would need to come into contact with radiation levels exceeding 101 REM, (10100 mSv). It is highly improbable one will be exposed to a harmful level of radiation from a cellular telephone.
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If you place silver foil on your head, it'll bounce the radiation away...
Typical no worry scenario gama phones don't exist and there are so many carsonegenics in the world that where would we stop.
My point is no worries.
"don't believe the hype"
While it will not effect you,holding it up to your ear, whatever you do, do not keep your phone in your pocket, while connected.
Otherwise within a year, " Big Jim and the Twins " will shrivel up to nothing. Be fore warned ....................................oh wait, or is that steroids ?
I forget, anyway, better safe than sorry
ChumleyEX:
Classic
I wonder if they sell them in different colours?
denco7: No longer will my pocket cohabit my phone
For the baseball fan.
I would sumerize that leaving the data connection on gave this man his power (and I was told too)
You guys are hilarious. ;-P
Thanks to those of you who were took the time to answer. To give some additional background: I'm not putting it in my pocket; I'm wearing it in a belt-clip holster/carrier, so it would be my kidneys I'd be worried about.
Also, keep in mind that I'm concerned about cancer effects over time. I saw the radiation measurements k-semler provided...those small doses are OK intermittently...are they OK every day for a few years?
I use a bluetooth earpiece, so I'm OK with my head (the earpiece is designed to power down after several minutes of inactivity).
I would think a Dr or someone would know about that. Just make sure you keep it near the kidney that isn't near your liver.
I normally keep my phone in a cargo pocket.. The knees love radiation.
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is it just me, or is the phone main selling point the ruggedized case? because the ads don't mention the fact at all that it's running on an 800mhz proc, 2.2 froyo.
i don't own the phone, just feel like the ads make it out like a....they focus mainly on the ruggedized of it. not that it's bad, it's just a different advertising campaign for a phone, and verizon probably isn't funding the ads. (because it's a mid-range device)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XejMy7DYacc
anyway, just a random blurb from me.
aside from that, didn't think casio could pull off a phone, don't they mainly make wrist watches?
Can't say I even know them for that,
I only know them for calculators :/
Anyway, this phone of thiers doesn't look particularly interesting.
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I used to have their calculator wrist watch. I was so cutting edge back then.
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I used to have their calculator wrist watch. I was so cutting edge back then.
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no, there's another one where they strapped it to the back axel of a rally car and went around with it, came back at the end of the ad, thing was covered in mud, miracoiusly it still worked, yeah, who would want to do that to a phone?
i know it's meant for working in a tough field, but, the ad campaign is a little over the top, no?
and ias i said mid-range, highest it captures in video is crappy 360p
and as far as ruggedness, buy a freaking otterbox case, because that's pretty much what this phone's shell is.
Casio Commando is fun.
I was watching a Ken Block, insane Gymkhana video, under water with my Casio Commando, in a creek at Brevard College, in Brevard North Carolina. The water temperature was ice cold on July 4th, 2011. You have to make sure all doors on the phone are closed so you will not damage the phone. The screen is very sensitive to the temperature of the water. The water will actually control the phone because the phone thinks the water is your fingers. So is takes practice to enter the phone into the water without stopping the video.
Check out my video on YouTube at Casio Commando Underwater.
To record videos underwater with the Casio Commando, you have to
1) call someone and stay on the call
2) start the camcorder recording
3) tap the power button to turn off the screen. The phone thinks the water is your fingers and
the water will control your phone to do weird things such as stop recording. The sound of the speakers on the phone gets clogged with water so it does not sound good until the water drains out of the speakers. I blow on the different doors and holes on the phone to clear the water so I can hear the speakers. I wait on the phone to dry
completely before charging again or opening the doors for any reason.
I would like for someone to create a new rom for the Casio Commando.
No.
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I would like for someone to create a new rom for the Casio Commando.
I would like for someone to create a new rom for the Casio Commando.
dirty hands
Just think, how dirty is money?
What is the thing that is nearly as dirty as money?
A cellphone or smartphone.
If you have a waterproof or waterresistant phone, just wash it.
I had one of these once:
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I can't wait to see what Casio could do in the Android Market...!
I do own a Droid X activated, a BlackBerry activated, and a Casio Commando on Verizon/Vodafone. Need I say more. I am 48 years old.
It's late here, so sorry if this has been asked or talked about before. The phone I had for a length of time before this was a Nexus One. I switched to the G2X and hated it with a passion.
Our phones can darned near do anything I can possibly imagine today... especially when you consider that color screens were "hot" just a few years back.
I'm not a gamer by any means. I played Cut the Rope and Angry Birds, but have beaten em both with perfect scores... so gaming graphics aren't really "my" niche. However, what would you like to see a phone capable of next?
I just remember when I had my G1 and the Android platform has advanced so quickly, that I am at a loss of what I would like to see next. The only thing I could say would be a game-changer, would be some type of "real-time" translator. How amazing would that be?
So, my contribution is a translator that could do so in real-time (or at least close). What's yours?
Another random idea....
My 97 year old grandfather was blown away that I could order a book on my phone (through Amazon) and have it arrive the next day. He started talking about how he would love many of the things I do on it, such as checking the weather and news.
While we're all somewhat "techy" on here... it'd be neat to see something idiot proof. That is, something that isn't for the tech savvy like himself, to be able to use it. Voice search has come a long way, but still takes a fair amount of skill.
The trouble with translation of human speech is the literally unlimited variables. Not only the hundreds of languages, but the dialects, the accents, the mis-pronounciations and the combinations of all the above.
The technology will get there, it's just nowhere near just yet. (IBM are flouting their latest super computer is as clever as a cat, but it has 147,000+ CPUs! Not to mention the fact my cat isn't a gleaming example of intelligence).
As for what to expect in handsets, quite frankly, battery tech needs a good boot up the backside into reality, plus the efficiency tech to match.
'toy tech'-wise, I'd like things like an accurate body monitor, that'd be ideal for handicapped or the elderly (or the fitness savvy for that matter) which could automatically alert in case of problems.
Otherwise, there isn't much I can think of that this thing doesn't do (other than make the obligatory cup of coffee). Tech is getting to a place where gadgets can seriously be considered as possible devices to advance the human race rather than just assist it's user.
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The trouble with translation of human speech is the literally unlimited variables. Not only the hundreds of languages, but the dialects, the accents, the mis-pronounciations and the combinations of all the above.
The technology will get there, it's just nowhere near just yet. (IBM are flouting their latest super computer is as clever as a cat, but it has 147,000+ CPUs! Not to mention the fact my cat isn't a gleaming example of intelligence).
As for what to expect in handsets, quite frankly, battery tech needs a good boot up the backside into reality, plus the efficiency tech to match.
'toy tech'-wise, I'd like things like an accurate body monitor, that'd be ideal for handicapped or the elderly (or the fitness savvy for that matter) which could automatically alert in case of problems.
Otherwise, there isn't much I can think of that this thing doesn't do (other than make the obligatory cup of coffee). Tech is getting to a place where gadgets can seriously be considered as possible devices to advance the human race rather than just assist it's user.
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Technically, our phones CAN make a cup of coffee now! Google arduino twitter coffee pot (or something similar). You can use twitter to send a command to a microcontroller that is hooked up to a coffee pot to make coffee when you tell it too from wherever you are.
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, what would you like to see a phone capable of next?
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hologram calls instead of apps like FaceTime.
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We're getting there, probably when we're 97 and we get blown away when our grandson/daughters shows us we can hologram call in SuperHD mode as if the person is just next to you
What does this have to do with Sensation?
I would like a phone with "LASER" attached to its back
¤Violets are red,
Roses are blue,
Wait, what?
I have no idea what I'm saying,
But you lost the game¤
hello00 said:
What does this have to do with Sensation?
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there are some sensational ideas floating around....
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there are some sensational ideas floating around....
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that makes sense!
Maybe require them to take an annual driver-certification test of some kind after a certain age?
See http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lan...hits-9-children-while-backing-up-his-car.html
Yes, definitely. Here (in norway) people that are 70+ years old must have a "medical certificate" from their doctor, and they have to see their doctor once a year. If their doctor says that they're not fit to drive then that'll be it. Doesn't eliminate the dangers, but it's a start.
Look up driving and accident statistics anywhere in the state of Florida and you'll have a definitive answer. There is something truly frightening about seeing a 90 year old person behind the wheel of a Suburban or Excursion. Especially when they are so hunched over from arthritis that their only line of sight is looking under the steering wheel and over the dash. We called them Q-Tip drivers, since the only thing you could see was a puff of white hair. If you've seen Ferris Bueller you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.
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I think drivers should have to retake the entire driving test every time or two they renew their license. That way it doesn't discriminate any group of people, and will eliminate everyone who doesn't know how to drive, not just the older people.
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How about a mandatory retake of drivers ed courses for people who get in more than two accidents in five years?
It sounds good in principle, but I have literally seen DMV employees guiding elderly people through the vision test. I think people here regard driving as a right, not as a privilege and responsibility.
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I think drivers should have to retake the entire driving test every time or two they renew their license. That way it doesn't discriminate any group of people, and will eliminate everyone who doesn't know how to drive, not just the older people.
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Cost a lot of money, and the lines will be astronomical. To take the drivers road test here in Nevada, I had to schedule it 7 weeks in advance.
well any age that can drive while holding a can of beer in the other seems good to me,
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I think people here regard driving as a right, not as a privilege and responsibility.
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+1. Then, there are the cases of old people driving their cars through buildings (they mistake the accelerator for the brake, in a parking lot, when they start their car). I guess when people get old, everything looks the same.
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Yes I live in Florida as well. I lost my driver side mirror because some old ass guy decided he didn't like the lane he was in. To bad I was right next to him and he just starts moving over. Luckily I quick enough to act and he only took out my mirror. I see waaay to many old fools that should not be driving.
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This is what I thought of when I saw this thread.
I dont think there should be no questions asked cut off age, not everybody ages equally. But for sure tests should be administered after a certain age, if you cant pass the test you shouldn't drive..
I think having to get a doctor's release to drive after a certain age makes the most sense. It's not about age, really, but the mental and physical competency that degrades with age.
Maybe not a max age but they def need to get better at screening with age. I mean, WTF, they are so mean there to everyone at the DMV so why are they being " nice" and letting our old folks get renewed when they shouldn't lol
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Definitely should be or least re-test after a certain age
Every summer, Southern California sees a temporary influx of old retirees from Arizona. They drive at very slow speeds on the fast lane of our freeways. We just love them for that :^)
Some Californians call this phenomenon "The invasion of the Zonies".
i just had to bring this up
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Oh god yes. Please. Senior drives are as dangerous as, if not more so than, junior drivers.
Going 50 and overtaking!!! on the bloody Autobahn, are you f*cking kidding me... Or just randomly slamming on the breaks in the middle of a corner. Or crossing the intersection without even so much as noticing all the oncoming traffic!
67. (pension-age) After that, every 5 years a re-exam. If you fail, get used to taking a cab.
I think so...
Seen this discussion on a lot of car forums.
I'm a bit neutral as far as opinion.
Some drivers are inherently incapable all thru their driving years then some are careful responsible till the end.
Now that I'm closing in on 60 I'm way more intolerant of others.
In the past I was a very angry aggressive driver...I never got anywhere faster than anybody else.
Haven't really slowed down, I just do my best to be safe and sane with constant self checks when driving.
Okay there's two types of phones (phone lines, with different categories of course)
Theres the Mobile and the Landline, those will be our two starts, then there's the stages of knowledge in those that I'm going to point out (just bored) here they are
Landline
-User, someone who knows it plugs in and calls
-Operator, knows a bit more about the phone system, ANI, etc.
-Technician/Linesman, runs the wire, knows how to plug it in, testing to see if it works properly, phone switch specifics, etc.
-Phreak, knows ins and outs of exploring the phone system and how to abuse it (most novices abuse knowledge like that.) Know how to operate switches without owning them, mainly from knowledge passed down, relatively small amounts of Phreaks now adays.
-Engineer, Knows absolutely everything about the phone system, if not, more.
Mobile
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-User, knows how to operate their phone
-Adv. User - knows what devs tell them and how to fix their stuff when stuff goes bad. (not always)
-Unnamed, the people who activate your cell, provide cheap customer service about medium basic things on your phone, from APN to IMEI.
-Developer, knows how to, well, develope, knowledge of the Operating System, Firmware, etc etc. Most people reading this fit in here or in User.
-Phreak, covered in landline
-Engineers, covered in landline.
Whatever category you're in, you can share it, or you can discuss, or not share, or not discuss - pointless thread nonetheless, but, oh well.
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Remember kids, Phreaks play on the fone.
i'm a network specialist- handles all connections from DSLAM to Network Center including limited data and manipulation of network inputs, OTA's, and account syncing
Rootz had a great thread on this.
As for me:
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Okay there's two types of phones (phone lines, with different categories of course)
Theres the Mobile and the Landline, those will be our two starts, then there's the stages of knowledge in those that I'm going to point out (just bored) here they are
Landline
-User, someone who knows it plugs in and calls
-Operator, knows a bit more about the phone system, ANI, etc.
-Technician/Linesman, runs the wire, knows how to plug it in, testing to see if it works properly, phone switch specifics, etc.
-Phreak, knows ins and outs of exploring the phone system and how to abuse it (most novices abuse knowledge like that.) Know how to operate switches without owning them, mainly from knowledge passed down, relatively small amounts of Phreaks now adays.
-Engineer, Knows absolutely everything about the phone system, if not, more.
Mobile
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-User, knows how to operate their phone
-Adv. User - knows what devs tell them and how to fix their stuff when stuff goes bad. (not always)
-Unnamed, the people who activate your cell, provide cheap customer service about medium basic things on your phone, from APN to IMEI.
-Developer, knows how to, well, develope, knowledge of the Operating System, Firmware, etc etc. Most people reading this fit in here or in User.
-Phreak, covered in landline
-Engineers, covered in landline.
Whatever category you're in, you can share it, or you can discuss, or not share, or not discuss - pointless thread nonetheless, but, oh well.
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Then some devs evolve to the Legendary stage.
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Don't forget noobs
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Then some devs evolve to the Legendary stage.
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Correct. But there are multiple levels of "being" when they reach that state. When a Legendary Developer reaches a state of complete knowledge of a system, they transcend into beings of pure light. These beings, having memories of what it was like starting out in their journey, will do their best to guide others down this path of enlightenment as well.
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Mobile phone battery is as far as every literate phone user is concerned the best thing that can make a user happy using his/her phone. Using a mobile phone whose battery is non-functional or weak is a horrible experience which every phone user hates very much, which in this case I have been a victim.
I consistently thought that licking the contact point of a phone battery is a very healthy way of knowing if your battery is still alive and kicking and also to test for the charge in it. This understanding is what I knew almost every phone technician thinks its good for phone batteries but on the contrary, I was amazed to find out just today as I bought a new phone, specifically AllCall Rio and I proceeded to read the guide inscribed into the phone so as to make a better user.
I was suprised to find out that the actions we take everyday (licking the point of contact) thinking its designated to detect the battery life was actually wrong. Licking the battery contact point causes short circuit, rusts battery and reduces the battery efficiency.
Ya... that's probably not the best idea.
Might as well lick your outlet as well to make sure it's working, and while you're doing that, lick the stove too while it's on to make sure the fire's up and running, you know, to make sure it's still working and such...
But seriously, I know licking the contact point won't kill you or something, but I still don't want to lick the contact point. And there has to be better ways to do this than use your tongue to lick a damn piece of metal connected to a battery.
Did someone mention licking ?
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In all honesty, I seriously wonder who actually came up with the idea that licking the contact point would be a surefire way to tell whether a phone or something is alive and kicking. There has to be better ways to do something like this; I know that using your finger to touch the contact point doesn't give enough feedback in most cases, but some kind of life hack must exist somewhere for this sort of situation.
The fact that people consistently lick their contact points makes me fearful about what would happen if they did it with something which took more juice - for example, a few years ago I accidentally touched one of the prongs a partly-inserted power supply for my desktop and already got quite a shock from it, which numbed my whole body. The consequences for licking something like that must be far worse than just numbness and tingling...
In the end, though, I never heard anything about licking contact points where I live. Maybe it's because the people I associate with are more literate with computers than most, or maybe because the people in the US have already unearthed the truths and the dangers of licking contact points...either way, I know that's something I won't do, probably ever.
EDIT: Also realized that licking the contact point in most cases would mean turning off the phone (if my assumption that you take out the battery to lick it would be correct). If not, then the fact that people lick there phones would never allow me to get a secondhand phone...though I wouldn't have anyways, seeing as how you can already hide water damage on a phone with just a bit of bleach on the indicator.
These days, I just assume that any secondhand phone is due to water damage. Just to be safe.
Hi, I also just aquired the allcall rio.
Can you help me out with a few things,
1. does the back come off in order to reach the battery?
2. on a normal phone pressing the middle button normally gains you access into the app menu, for some reason i can only access the home screen with the apps being accessed by sliding the home screen to multi home screens, is this normal?
3. have you rooted your phone and if so can you leadme to where you done this?
I like the phone, just wondering whether what iv stated are normal features or a fault with mine
Thanks in advance for any help / info
Cheers
Thanks for sharing with these recommendations! The phone battery can really sometimes be a problem, however in my case it isn't an annoying thing because except mobile connection I use my smartphone only for reading and lurking through net