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[Q] if you can unlock bootloader on motorola.com, why aren't people doing it?

How come people aren't talking about this? Would I be able to root if the bootloader is unlocked?

BaconDrips said:
How come people aren't talking about this? Would I be able to root if the bootloader is unlocked?
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The popular carriers like AT&T and VZW don't allow it - so that prevents a large group from doing it.

Cause most carrier phones don't have their option to unlock the boot loader. But yes if you do unluck the boot loader you can root. But you can also root without unlocking thanks to jcase's pwnmymoto root method.

BaconDrips said:
How come people aren't talking about this? Would I be able to root if the bootloader is unlocked?
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Most people aren't talking about it because I guess they figure you know whether or not you bought a phone that could be unlocked. If you are bootloader unlocked then yes - you just flash su.zip in cwm or twrp and you are good to go.
So if you are on Sprint or T-mobile, US Cellular or international go for it.

Unlocking the bootloader voids warranties as well...doing it through the website makes that void permanent whereas if you did it without the website you can still have your phone go through the warranty process as long as you unroot and relock the bootloader. that's what i love about the nexus devices

Ugh!!!
Glad I ran into this. I was going through the process to unlock my XT1080M on the site...looks like I'm waiting for the non-Chinese path.

Radio2006 said:
Glad I ran into this. I was going through the process to unlock my XT1080M on the site...looks like I'm waiting for the non-Chinese path.
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There's no 'non Chinese' path for Verizon phones. Unless you have a developer edition
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Droyyd said:
Unlocking the bootloader voids warranties as well...doing it through the website makes that void permanent whereas if you did it without the website you can still have your phone go through the warranty process as long as you unroot and relock the bootloader. that's what i love about the nexus devices
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While this may be true for Nexus devices, it doesn't apply to the Moto X.
The Moto X bootloader has 3 states:
Locked, Unlocked, and Re-Locked
Once you have unlocked, if you subsequently re-lock, the status changes to "Re-Locked". You can NEVER get it back to "Locked". So regardless of whether you get your code from the official Moto Unlock site or the Middleman, they still know that you had unlocked previously. There is no way around this...

rocketsaucev2 said:
There's no 'non Chinese' path for Verizon phones. Unless you have a developer edition
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Hence the reason I am waiting.

Radio2006 said:
Hence the reason I am waiting.
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Waiting for what?
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Radio2006 said:
Hence the reason I am waiting.
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rocketsaucev2 said:
Waiting for what?
Sent from my XT1060
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Exactly! I'm not sure what he is waiting for. An BL unlock exploit to come along? Dan Rosenburg (author of the Razr M Bootloader exploit) has said himself that it is extremely unlikely that a new Moto BL unlock exploit will EVER come along.
@Radio2006 : The "china" method could end tomorrow. It is 99.999% sure to be the ONLY way you will ever get unlocked. If being unlocked is important you, I would urge you not to wait.

Its China method quick, before it ends again....maybe for good....
Or it won't happen. The bootloader won't be "cracked". If it could be, it would be by now.
I'd get in on the China method, or accept a life of no proper root for your device. And no developer made updates after the X stops getting official updates.

samwathegreat said:
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Exactly! I'm not sure what he is waiting for. An BL unlock exploit to come along? Dan Rosenburg (author of the Razr M Bootloader exploit) has said himself that it is extremely unlikely that a new Moto BL unlock exploit will EVER come along.
@Radio2006 : The "china" method could end tomorrow. It is 99.999% sure to be the ONLY way you will ever get unlocked. If being unlocked is important you, I would urge you not to wait.
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Hey, gee thanks guys. I didn't know that. The China method has already shut down according to an XDA post that I read earlier. So I was hoping that something would occur later.

Radio2006 said:
Hey, gee thanks guys. I didn't know that. The China method has already shut down according to an XDA post that I read earlier. So I was hoping that something would occur later.
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It closed earlier this year, then reopened a couple months later. It is still available now. Find the thread titled "China Middleman Back?" Thread.
Good luck!

You rock bro...just sent the payment. Thanks again.

BaconDrips said:
How come people aren't talking about this? Would I be able to root if the bootloader is unlocked?
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I think only developer phones can be unlocked.

dhru1405 said:
I think only developer phones can be unlocked.
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Nope. Lots of moto x variations can be unlocked. And they all can do anything a dev edition can do, except keep their warranty.

Possible to revert from 4.4.2 to 4.2.2

I want to root again but am on 4.4.2 and can't do it.
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That's been talked about very often. One of the hottest Moto x topics.
You can search xda or Google for a lot of info. A lot!
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en-C...rade+4.4.2+to+4.2.2+locked+bootloader&spell=1
I'll tell you this. If you don't do it exactly right, or take an ota anytime after, you may brick your phone. So make sure you know what what you are doing before you do it.
Sent from my cell phone telephone....

If possible just unlock your boot loader and fastboot flash what you need to root. I read on here earlier some Chinese dude had unlock codes. Not sure how legit it is but unlocking your bootloader is the safest way to root I'm my opinion
Moto X developer edition

SymbioticGenius said:
If possible just unlock your boot loader and fastboot flash what you need. I read on here earlier some Chinese dude had unlock codes. Not sure how legit it is but unlocking your bootloader is the safest way I'm my opinion
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So far, it's been 100% legit as far as the codes working to unlock devices. The codes could stop anytime since no one knows where they are actually getting them from.

SymbioticGenius said:
If possible just unlock your boot loader and fastboot flash what you need. I read on here earlier some Chinese dude had unlock codes. Not sure how legit it is but unlocking your bootloader is the safest way I'm my opinion
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Even with an unlocked boot loader, you can not downgrade the boot loader from 4.4.2. No matter what version of the X you own, once you are on 4.4.2, you are stuck on 4.4.2.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Even with an unlocked boot loader, you can not downgrade the boot loader from 4.4.2. No matter what version of the X you own, once you are on 4.4.2, you are stuck on 4.4.2.
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Who needs to downgrade when all he was asking for was root? An unlocked bootloader will allow for you to flash a custom recovery and flash root or ROMs. If the the OPs only intention is downgrading the unlock codes are probably his best bet.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Even with an unlocked boot loader, you can not downgrade the boot loader from 4.4.2. No matter what version of the X you own, once you are on 4.4.2, you are stuck on 4.4.2.
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Yeah, but if you read the op you'd see the only reason he wants to go back is root. Thus I gave him a realistic way to achieve his goal.
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meber said:
Who needs to downgrade when all he was asking for was root? An unlocked bootloader will allow for you to flash a custom recovery and flash root or ROMs. If the the OPs only intention is downgrading the unlock codes are probably his best bet.
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For one I was responding to another poster who incorrectly told him he could just downgrade if he unlocked his boot loader. I wasn't replying to the OP, as evidenced by the fact I quoted the poster above me.
Secondly, with a locked boot loader, the only way to root was to downgrade to 4.2.2, use an exploit to root, then upgrade to 4.4. There is currently no way to root 4.4.2 without unlocking the boot loader.
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Yeah, but if you read the op you'd see the only reason he wants to go back is root. Thus I gave him a realistic way to achieve his goal.
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That is the reason but his specific request was to downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.2.2. When you said unlock and fast boot flash what you need, in the context of the thread it came across as you were saying he could downgrade with an unlocked boot loader. If the OP is new to Android, rooting, or the Moto X, then he could easily misinterpret what you were saying and end up bricking his device. You have to be clear when talking about rooting and unlocking.
If I misinterpreted your post, others easily have as well. However, the OP should have taken about ten seconds and searched for his answer before starting another thread that just muddies an already confusing issue.
Nothing I post is intended to hurt your feelings or call into question your knowledge. I just don't want people to break the devices they spend hard earned money on.

@ Orange, I didn't mean to offend you if it came off that way, and you didn't offend me either.
Nonetheless I don't really see how my post could be misunderstood. The original post clearly says he wants root. I gave him a straightforward way to achieve that. Unless someone only read the title skipped everything else and read my post, which would be just silly
I did however add two words (to root) to my first post. Just in case
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SymbioticGenius said:
@ Orange, I didn't mean to offend you if it came off that way, and you didn't offend me either.
Nonetheless I don't really see how my post could be misunderstood. The original post clearly says he wants root. I gave him a straightforward way to achieve that. Unless someone only read the title skipped everything else and read my post, which would be just silly
I did however add two words (to root) to my first post. Just in case
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No offense taken.

No bootloader unlock yet?

besides the chinese connection which may or may not be working , I dont need the spam nor do I need links having access to PP accounts . I guess my Moto X will continue to be a paperweight , My Note OG will continue to be my DD , since it has never failed me . Too bad Android is going the way of the proprietory scams (apple,windows ) and I dont blame the Devs like some people in here , , ya gotta figure if Microsoft, Google, Apple or HP ,Oracle see's what these guys are doing and says "I want that kid " , "yore hred kid , but you cant release anymore code to the public, trust me you'll be compensated well" , why wouldnt they take that offer ?
Just wish there was something else we could do ?

Get the Dev Edition
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It's AT&T that refuses to allow Motorola to unlock their model ...

I've seen nothing but happy customers from the Chinese code seller...the phones he could unlock anyway.
So a bit of spam, or an unlocked bootloader..... Seems most go for the unlock.
As said, dev edition is your only other choice. Sell the one you have and you'll be most of the way to the DE cost.

I don't know of anyone on here who has gotten any spam using the PayPal method with the Chinese guy. If you don't have an unlockable version or a dev version, it will likely be the only possibility ever. Motorola have locked these things down tight.

Vintage144 said:
I guess my Moto X will continue to be a paperweight
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Just wish there was something else we could do ?
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Well, you could start by buying phones that actually suit your needs. Some versions of the X were bootloader-locked. This was known from the outset. So whose fault is it that you own a "paperweight"? It's not the developers, or Google, or Microsoft, or anyone else.
You could have bought a dev edition. You could have bought from a carrier who allowed unlocking. You could have skipped the X altogether... so, why?
I'd like it if Big Red offered more unlockable phones, but I go into any phone purchase with eyes wide open. I decided the Moto X suited my needs even bootloader-locked. So you won't hear any complaints from me: it's my own fault if I don't like it. I don't hear a lot of Ford F350 owners complaining about their gas mileage, and there aren't a lot of Prius drivers that think their car is a paperweight because it can't haul a boat.

Vintage144 said:
I dont need the spam nor do I need links having access to PP accounts
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I used the Chinese PayPal method and haven't received any spam what so ever, only a single email with my code. Would highly recommend that option to anyone.

wasnt referring to spam from the chinese guy and that would be the option Id take , as for the paperweight , should have stayed with stuff I know like Samsung and HTC anyway , theyve never let me down , there isnt some are some arent!

No disrespect intended.....but you didn't like the X three months ago even, why haven't you just sold it????
Just curious.

I used the chinese MM method. Sent the payment via paypal as instructed and received the code less than 24 hrs later.
Unlocked BL, rooted phone, and installed GravityBox today. Noticed literally no extra lag so far and the increase in functionality, customization, and my satisfaction of the phone has increased exponentially.
If you're worried about spam, can't you just make a temporary email account?

jamesino said:
I used the chinese MM method. Sent the payment via paypal as instructed and received the code less than 24 hrs later.
Unlocked BL, rooted phone, and installed GravityBox today. Noticed literally no extra lag so far and the increase in functionality, customization, and my satisfaction of the phone has increased exponentially.
If you're worried about spam, can't you just make a temporary email account?
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Where can I find that Chinese mm method?

androiddoglover6969 said:
Where can I find that Chinese mm method?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177
Only generally works with phone made in 2014 though. Check the lower right corner of the sticker on your box for the manufacture date.

jamesino said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177
Only generally works with phone made in 2014 though. Check the lower right corner of the sticker on your box for the manufacture date.
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Semi off topic:
If I rooted my phone to 4.4.2. and I have a bootloader locked, doing a factory reset will entitle me to keep my root? Or will I lose it?
And what if I do a factory reset on my rooted moto x on 4.4.2 when my bootloader is unlocked. Will I be able to keep my root when doing factory reset? I am trying to get rid of this "com.motorola.process.system" because I've tried wiping cache and dalvik and safemode and date and time method doesn't work.

androiddoglover6969 said:
Semi off topic:
If I rooted my phone to 4.4.2. and I have a bootloader locked, doing a factory reset will entitle me to keep my root? Or will I lose it?
And what if I do a factory reset on my rooted moto x on 4.4.2 when my bootloader is unlocked. Will I be able to keep my root when doing factory reset? I am trying to get rid of this "com.motorola.process.system" because I've tried wiping cache and dalvik and safemode and date and time method doesn't work.
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See my reply to this same question you asked in another thread. You're out-of-luck.
Please follow my instructions in the other thread. You'll have to re-flash the stock 4.4.2 rom, and you will NOT be getting root back without BL unlock.
Sorry...its posted all over this forum that you cannot take the 4.4.2 OTA - it patches the BL exploits we used.

samwathegreat said:
See my reply to this same question you asked in another thread. You're out-of-luck.
Please follow my instructions in the other thread. You'll have to re-flash the stock 4.4.2 rom, and you will NOT be getting root back without BL unlock.
Sorry...its posted all over this forum that you cannot take the 4.4.2 OTA - it patches the BL exploits we used.
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I didn't take the 4.4.2 OTA...
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samwathegreat said:
See my reply to this same question you asked in another thread. You're out-of-luck.
Please follow my instructions in the other thread. You'll have to re-flash the stock 4.4.2 rom, and you will NOT be getting root back without BL unlock.
Sorry...its posted all over this forum that you cannot take the 4.4.2 OTA - it patches the BL exploits we used.
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Alright. Just bought the unlock bootloader service.

If you want a bootloader unlock for AT&T Moto X, you could just get the Rogers Moto X.
They are both XT1058 and the Rogers one is bootloader unlockable on the Motorola website. I unlocked 3 there myself.

scorpion667 said:
If you want a bootloader unlock for AT&T Moto X, you could just get the Rogers Moto X.
They are both XT1058 and the Rogers one is bootloader unlockable on the Motorola website. I unlocked 3 there myself.
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Good call, but hopefully that'll be useful for those with that 1058 model. I am on XT1049.

scorpion667 said:
If you want a bootloader unlock for AT&T Moto X, you could just get the Rogers Moto X.
They are both XT1058 and the Rogers one is bootloader unlockable on the Motorola website. I unlocked 3 there myself.
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That's what I have. Unlocked on moto site.

New Moto X owner, have some starter questions.

Hello everybody, I just got my Moto X and I have to say it is a lovely device better than I expected in terms of how it feels in the hand. Really compact device.
I have some questions:
1. My phone has 4.4.2 but OTA fails to update it to 4.4.3. Is there any software that I can use to update the phone?
2. Is there a flashtool software where I can flash different .ftf fies?
3. Root option for 4.4.3 available?

1. There are a few threads discussing the 4.4.3 OTA, and what condition your phone must be in to receive/install the OTA. For example -> [XT1053] 4.4.3 OTA Update Zip and Android™ 4.4.3, KitKat® Rolls Out to Moto Devices I'm sure if you READ it, you'll find information that will solve your issue. Or if you post details of your phone, carrier, any tweaks you've made to it, etc...
2. I do not believe so.
3. If you have an unlocked bootloader, you *can* Root 4.4.3. If you have a LOCKED bootloader, you *can not* root 4.4.3.

asilviug said:
Hello everybody, I just got my Moto X and I have to say it is a lovely device better than I expected in terms of how it feels in the hand. Really compact device.
I have some questions:
1. My phone has 4.4.2 but OTA fails to update it to 4.4.3. Is there any software that I can use to update the phone?
2. Is there a flashtool software where I can flash different .ftf fies?
3. Root option for 4.4.3 available?
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Locked or unlocked bootloader? What carrier?
I have an unlocked Dev Ed Moto X running TMobile, and it accepted the 4.4.3 OTA update. I first had to revert entirely to stock 4.4.2, though.

varxx said:
Locked or unlocked bootloader? What carrier?
I have an unlocked Dev Ed Moto X running TMobile, and it accepted the 4.4.3 OTA update. I first had to revert entirely to stock 4.4.2, though.
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My phone is branded with an AT&T logo on the back. Model number is xt1058 and I'm running stock 4.4.2
I don't know about the bootloader though, how can I verify that?
I would really like to update this to 4.4.3 and root it, although it's not that easy I see.
Any help would be highly appreciated. I'm even considering throwing in a bounty

asilviug said:
My phone is branded with an AT&T logo on the back. Model number is xt1058 and I'm running stock 4.4.2
I don't know about the bootloader though, how can I verify that?
I would really like to update this to 4.4.3 and root it, although it's not that easy I see.
Any help would be highly appreciated. I'm even considering throwing in a bounty
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Ok... here we go...
4.4.3 is not out for the ATT XT1058 yet, so you can't update to it. You need to wait for ATT to start making it available.
ATT XT1058 has a locked bootloader, and Moto doesn't give out the bootloader unlock codes. Your only option to unlock the bootloader is *IF* (or maybe when) the Chinese WebSite/MiddelMan comes back to selling bootloader unlock codes. See -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177
There is no option to root 4.4.3 when you have a locked bootloader.
If you want usable root on the X you need two parts 1. Root Exploit, and 2. An Exploit that allows for disabling Write Protection. There is now a Root Exploit for 4.4.2 with a locked bootloader, but there is not an exploit to disable write protection. This means if you'd root, then anytime you power your phone off/on, the changes, root, etc is lost. And Root style apps that need to write to /system and the like, CANT.
there is no root option for 4.4.3 with a locked bootloader
For more details see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Locked.html

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4.4.3 is not out for the ATT XT1058 yet, so you can't update to it. You need to wait for ATT to start making it available.
ATT XT1058 has a locked bootloader, and Moto doesn't give out the bootloader unlock codes. Your only option to unlock the bootloader is *IF* (or maybe when) the Chinese WebSite/MiddelMan comes back to selling bootloader unlock codes. See -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177
There is no option to root 4.4.3 when you have a locked bootloader.
If you want usable root on the X you need two parts 1. Root Exploit, and 2. An Exploit that allows for disabling Write Protection. There is now a Root Exploit for 4.4.2 with a locked bootloader, but there is not an exploit to disable write protection. This means if you'd root, then anytime you power your phone off/on, the changes, root, etc is lost. And Root style apps that need to write to /system and the like, CANT.
there is no root option for 4.4.3 with a locked bootloader
For more details see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Locked.html
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Thanks for the info fist of all. Not very good news but it is what it is.
I took a look at that link and apparently the newer models of Moto X are most likely to get an unlock code. My phone is from 2013 most probably but I don't know how to find out exactly. Can you advise on this matter as getting a code from that asian dude seems the next step for me.

asilviug said:
Thanks for the info fist of all. Not very good news but it is what it is.
I took a look at that link and apparently the newer models of Moto X are most likely to get an unlock code. My phone is from 2013 most probably but I don't know how to find out exactly. Can you advise on this matter as getting a code from that asian dude seems the next step for me.
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There are several ways to find out your date code.. The easiest is to boot the phone in bootloader/fastboot mode, and select the option for Bar Codes. The date displayed there is the build date.

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There are several ways to find out your date code.. The easiest is to boot the phone in bootloader/fastboot mode, and select the option for Bar Codes. The date displayed there is the build date.
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Thanks, it appears that my phone is from August 2013. I will try to get a code. Before I do that just want to double check it with you.
Once I get the unlock code, I can root 4.4.2 that I'm currently running and also future updates released by AT&T/Motorola in the near future including the 4.4.3?

asilviug said:
Thanks, it appears that my phone is from August 2013. I will try to get a code. Before I do that just want to double check it with you.
Once I get the unlock code, I can root 4.4.2 that I'm currently running and also future updates released by AT&T/Motorola in the near future including the 4.4.3?
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Correct. Once you unlock your bootloader (which is DESTRUCTIVE, so BACKUP EVERYTHING To Your PC, or Cloud, before you do the process), you will be able to root any android version by flashing a 3rd party recovery (like TWRP), booting to the 3rd party recovery and installing SuperSU.
For more info, see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Unlock1.htm

KidJoe said:
Correct. Once you unlock your bootloader (which is DESTRUCTIVE, so BACKUP EVERYTHING To Your PC, or Cloud, before you do the process), you will be able to root any android version by flashing a 3rd party recovery (like TWRP), booting to the 3rd party recovery and installing SuperSU.
For more info, see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Unlock1.htm
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Unfortunately the Chinese middle man couldn't help me with the unlock code. What about contacting AT&T regarding the unlock code? Do you think it's possible asking them politely?

asilviug said:
Unfortunately the Chinese middle man couldn't help me with the unlock code. What about contacting AT&T regarding the unlock code? Do you think it's possible to ask them politely?
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Zero chance. Sorry.
I mean...it's certainly possible to ask them politely, but they still won't give it to you....guaranteed.
I'm guessing you have a 2013 variant since the middleman couldn't help you?

samwathegreat said:
Zero chance. Sorry.
I mean...it's certainly possible to ask them politely, but they still won't give it to you....guaranteed.
I'm guessing you have a 2013 variant since the middleman couldn't help you?
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Yes, a late 2013 model. He said that the database could become available again in the future...
If I want to contact AT&T, what would be the best way? Phone/email? I'm not an US citizen nor living in US.

asilviug said:
Yes, a late 2013 model. He said that the database could become available again in the future...
If I want to contact AT&T, what would be the best way? Phone/email? I'm not an US citizen nor living in US.
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I'm not an AT&T customer, so I can't advise on contact info, but I can tell you that you will be wasting your time if you even try. The chance that they will give you the code is exactly 0% no matter how nicely you ask them.
You might consider selling your AT&T XT1058 and buying one that can be unlocked, such as the XT1053, or the XT1058 Roger's variant if unlocking the BL is that important to you.
Good Luck

asilviug said:
Unfortunately the Chinese middle man couldn't help me with the unlock code. What about contacting AT&T regarding the unlock code? Do you think it's possible asking them politely?
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asilviug said:
Yes, a late 2013 model. He said that the database could become available again in the future...
If I want to contact AT&T, what would be the best way? Phone/email? I'm not an US citizen nor living in US.
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You have zero chance getting a boot loader unlock code from Att or Moto.
And If you are not living in the USA, then you are likely not an ATT customer, so they won't even talk to you.

Unlock bootloader Moto X Verizon

I have Moto X 2013 Verizon. Lasetest firmware 4.4.4. Can anyone help me unlock bootloader my phone? And after unlock bootloder can my phone recieve OTA update ?

Do you have the developers edition? If not you can't unlock.

lowvolt1 said:
Do you have the developers edition? If not you can't unlock.
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my phone is not dev edition. But i wonder why only Verizon not allow unlock bootloader, all another carrier Moto X can unlock bootloader easy:crying:

Verizon and AT&T. If you search the forum for China middle man. You may find a way to unlock. Just a hint.

I know what u feel, I have this great phone but I Can't unlock bootloader either
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md07 said:
my phone is not dev edition. But i wonder why only Verizon not allow unlock bootloader, all another carrier Moto X can unlock bootloader easy:crying:
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Verizon (non-Dev Edition), ATT and Republic Wireless can not unlock their bootloader. It has been this way since the 2013 X went on sale.
Its likely due to contracts between Moto and those carriers.

It is possible!!
I just did it earlier today, google "sunshine moto x" I had trouble initially but went on the site talked to the dec and he fixed the app for me, I am now unlocked deciding which 5.0 rom I want to go with. (sucks no moto apps until they relase the official )

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I just did it earlier today, google "sunshine moto x" I had trouble initially but went on the site talked to the dec and he fixed the app for me, I am now unlocked deciding which 5.0 rom I want to go with. (sucks no moto apps until they relase the official )
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I tried sunshine 3.0.3 on a VZW 4.4.4 non-dev phone and it couldn't achieve temp root. You are saying that it worked for you on a VZW locked non-dev 4.4.4 phone?
Edited: Just tried it on 3.0.4 as well. No joy.

Fadelight said:
I tried sunshine 3.0.3 on a VZW 4.4.4 non-dev phone and it couldn't achieve temp root. You are saying that it worked for you on a VZW locked non-dev 4.4.4 phone?
Edited: Just tried it on 3.0.4 as well. No joy.
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I think it depends on how you got to 4.4.4. If you took the official OTA, like I did, you're out of luck.

mh0520 said:
I think it depends on how you got to 4.4.4. If you took the official OTA, like I did, you're out of luck.
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Yeah, that is what I suspect. I am pretty sure if JCase had added support for the moto x in sunshine, he would've announced it by now. Lots of money to be had.

gchase23 said:
I just did it earlier today, google "sunshine moto x" I had trouble initially but went on the site talked to the dec and he fixed the app for me, I am now unlocked deciding which 5.0 rom I want to go with. (sucks no moto apps until they relase the official )
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Fadelight said:
I tried sunshine 3.0.3 on a VZW 4.4.4 non-dev phone and it couldn't achieve temp root. You are saying that it worked for you on a VZW locked non-dev 4.4.4 phone?
Edited: Just tried it on 3.0.4 as well. No joy.
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Sunshine relies on your phone being rooted, or the tool being able to obtain temp root.
4.4.4 on the 2013 Verizon Moto X, or most/all 2013 Moto X on locked bootloader, hasn't been rooted, and the tool can't temp root the phone.
So if you have 4.4.4 on the 2013 Moto X, do not expect Sunshine to work.
If you have never updated the 2013 Moto X to 4.4.4, then Sunshine will likely work just fine.

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I think it depends on how you got to 4.4.4. If you took the official OTA, like I did, you're out of luck.
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I took the soak test leak and pushed it to my phone and I can't unlock my boot loader either I don't think it has anything to do with that :/

BADDINOROX99 said:
I took the soak test leak and pushed it to my phone and I can't unlock my boot loader either I don't think it has anything to do with that :/
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Did you update everything or did you individually update components? I think it came down to whether or not people updated the bootloader when they updated to 4.4.4. There was a way to update without updating the bootloader and I think it's those phones that sunshine works for. I'm far from an expert though; I could definitely be wrong.

KidJoe said:
Sunshine relies on your phone being rooted, or the tool being able to obtain temp root.
4.4.4 on the 2013 Verizon Moto X, or most/all 2013 Moto X on locked bootloader, hasn't been rooted, and the tool can't temp root the phone.
So if you have 4.4.4 on the 2013 Moto X, do not expect Sunshine to work.
If you have never updated the 2013 Moto X to 4.4.4, then Sunshine will likely work just fine.
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I'm well aware of this. But he claimed it worked for him.

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I'm well aware of this. But he claimed it worked for him.
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But gchase23 did NOT say what rom was on his phone BEFORE using Sunshine.. only that he was now unlocked and trying to decide on which 5.0 rom to run.
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Did you update everything or did you individually update components? I think it came down to whether or not people updated the bootloader when they updated to 4.4.4. There was a way to update without updating the bootloader and I think it's those phones that sunshine works for. I'm far from an expert though; I could definitely be wrong.
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People were being "cute" and manual flashing SBF's but skipping GPT.BIN and Motoboot.img (two parts that can't be downgraded).
However, as I understand it, this doesn't change the fact that 4.4.4 can't be rooted or temp rooted by Sunshine, which prevents it from working. It does mean that if done this way, they could likely downgrade to their previous SBF which matches the GPT.Bin/Motoboot (probably 4.4.2), and still use sunshine.

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But gchase23 did NOT say what rom was on his phone BEFORE using Sunshine.. only that he was now unlocked and trying to decide on which 5.0 rom to run.
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People were being "cute" and manual flashing SBF's but skipping GPT.BIN and Motoboot.img (two parts that can't be downgraded).
However, as I understand it, this doesn't change the fact that 4.4.4 can't be rooted or temp rooted by Sunshine, which prevents it from working. It does mean that if done this way, they could likely downgrade to their previous SBF which matches the GPT.Bin/Motoboot (probably 4.4.2), and still use sunshine.
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Dude, did you read what I quoted? He said sunshine unlocked his moto x. The OP specifies 4.4.4 and he said "I just did it", implying he was on 444.
I think you are skipping over a bit and replying only to parts of what I asked. I am well aware that sunshine won't work on 444. He stated he unlocked his with sunshine... Using only the words " I did it". I asked if he was on 444.

Fadelight said:
Dude, did you read what I quoted? He said sunshine unlocked his moto x. The OP specifies 4.4.4 and he said "I just did it", implying he was on 444.
I think you are skipping over a bit and replying only to parts of what I asked. I am well aware that sunshine won't work on 444. He stated he unlocked his with sunshine... Using only the words " I did it". I asked if he was on 444.
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Its implied, but I've been on these boards enough to question when its not explicitly stated.
I was hoping he'd come back and provide confirmation that he was on 4.4.4, and what bootloader was on his phone

KidJoe said:
Its implied, but I've been on these boards enough to question when its not explicitly stated.
I was hoping he'd come back and provide confirmation that he was on 4.4.4, and what bootloader was on his phone
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And that is exactly what I was getting at.
When asked about the future of sunshine for the 2013 moto x, JCase said "not anytime soon."

Fadelight said:
And that is exactly what I was getting at.
When asked about the future of sunshine for the 2013 moto x, JCase said "not anytime soon."
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Ugh... Take a look at this post by gchase23 from a few nights ago -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...6gb-bootloader-unlocked-t3057964/post59532395
Notice he says "XT1060 4.4.3 VZW - Rooted" Um, XT1060 never had 4.4.3, only 4.4.2 and 4.4.4. So I'm not sure we'll get a straight answer, because I replied asking for clarification, and didn't get a response.

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Ugh... Take a look at this post by gchase23 from a few nights ago -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...6gb-bootloader-unlocked-t3057964/post59532395
Notice he says "XT1060 4.4.3 VZW - Rooted" Um, XT1060 never had 4.4.3, only 4.4.2 and 4.4.4. So I'm not sure we'll get a straight answer, because I replied asking for clarification, and didn't get a response.
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Oh wow. Yeah, something is a bit off there.
JCase said something a while ago about a bunch of exploits he would be releasing. I was/am really hoping there would be something that we could use to gain root on the 2013 Moto X, but with his last comment on twitter, I'm not so sure that is going to happen.
If I were in any other situation, I would be looking for a new phone, but two things are preventing it. First, I love the Moto X and haven't found another phone I like better. Second, MY moto x is already unlocked (I held on to 4.4 until Sunshine came out). Its my wifes and my fathers that are not. Somehow they ended up on 4.4.4 without knowing it. They claim it just happened while they were sleeping. I more quickly suspect they tapped on it thinking it was an app update from the app store. But in any event, their phones are still locked.