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I am kind if disappointed in the speed and responsiveness of the unit.
My Wizard seems to be as fast or slightly faster than the Tytn II.
I did my usual and loaded up the Tytn II when I got it, Resco Explorer, Registry, FTP, Sling Player, TomTom 6, MS Voice Command and a couple small games.
The Tytn II seems to be very slow responding and very sluggish.
There isnt much in the startup folder either.
I really expected something with twice the clock speed to be much more responsive.
Also, the battery life is horrible, this thing sucks the battery down in no time with just GSM and BlueTooth on, I cant even use WiFi for 30 min without
draining the battery 25%, not to be an iPhone fan boy,but they have it straight with their WiFi implementation, I can leave WiFi, BT and GSM on all the time and
I get close to 12+ hours of varied use, surfing the web with WiFi, EDGE and talking on the phone for hours with no issues, I still have 50% or more battery.
I also notice that I have issues with a BT headset, sometimes when I try to answer a call, the audio seems to get routed nowhere, I cant get it on the phone or the headset and I have to soft reset to get it back.
Just wanted to see what others experiences were with regular usage.
I have also hard reset(clear storage) and the unit is still pretty sluggish.
Would a cooked ROM be any better? is that even an option for the Tytn II yet?
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I noticed something similar coming from Prophet (OMAP 200 overclocked @260) but...
The TI OMAP 850 processor has been on the market for at least 2 years (i might be wrong, but i got my Prophet 1.5 years ago) and compilers are optimized for it, drivers are optimized for it, etc.
This is the first WM6 on the QUALCOMM (i could be wrong here too, but i'm close)
I'm sure the next AKU will bring blazing speed (at least i hope so... pls... pls)
I actually think my kaiser is very fast. Opening of apps is not a good indicator - though it should be slightly faster. What I look at is how fast I can list a big directory. Benchmarks on video playback. An app can only open so fast
Bratag said:
I actually think my kaiser is very fast. Opening of apps is not a good indicator - though it should be slightly faster. What I look at is how fast I can list a big directory. Benchmarks on video playback. An app can only open so fast
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opening apps and listing directories is a measure of card i/o speed (card and the hardware that reads it)
benchmark on video files shows little improvement, see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332417
RPG0 said:
opening apps and listing directories is a measure of card i/o speed (card and the hardware that reads it)
benchmark on video files shows little improvement, see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332417
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I dont know what you are benchmarking with - but trust me - using Rawframebuffer on cordecodec - the performance of my kaiser FAR exceeds my wizard. On my wizard I couldnt play an move encoded with AVC at 250 KBPS now I have no problem with ones at 450+.
Oh and IO speed is a measure of the CPU as well. If you dont believe me do searches here or better still overclock your wizard and use SKTOOLS to benchmark with normal and OCed cpu.
dunno if this sheds any light on anything
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1551082&postcount=11
My smug friend just got his N900 up to 800mhz. And i want to get into the competition, is there any way to overclock the X1?
Sorry, the MSM720X chipset is really bad at overclocking, there's the app "nueDynamicClock" which CAN overclock but with huge issues, and small advantage...
noONExda said:
Sorry, the MSM720X chipset is really bad at overclocking, there's the app "nueDynamicClock" which CAN overclock but with huge issues, and small advantage...
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It's actually called NueOverclockTest, but you are right, it's terribly unstable and will freeze your phone 95% of the time. When it works, however, it's very nice.
No2Chem, the only developer who seems to know how to overclock the Xperia processor, dropped off the face of the earth in September 2009. My theory is that Qualcomm kidnapped him and is forcing him to use an underclocked Palm M505 as torture.
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see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725290
Xperia X1 "overclock"
Ive been investigating the same situation because i would love it if my X1 ran faster to keep up with more modern smartphones out on the mark these days. So heres what ive found out thus far;
- With stock settings, the Xperia X1 cpu (im using MSM7201A 528mhz cpu) is actually underclocked to 384mhz when the battery is being used, and then further underclocked to ~225mhz when the phone idle's for 5000ms.
- However when you apply external power to the phone, the cpu core runs at its full 528mhz speed. I found these power saving techinques employed by HTC or SE or QUALCOMM to be useless, because ive been running my phone at full speed, highest voltage, and the battery life difference is un-noticable.
- Here what you should do to at least make sure your X1 is running at 528mhz (which made WM actually significantly faster) to give yourself a psuedo-overclock;
1. Download "nueDynamicClock-122-v1.3-pack.zip" which i have attached to this post. Extract, copy the contents over to your X1 and run the SETUP file from your PHONE
1b. If you get a security error, you have to install the "EnableRapi.cab" file which i have also attached
2. Once installed, the cpu frequency settings can found it you click on Starty >> Settings >> System. There is a new "processor" icon, and all the settings can be found in there.
The program is very flexible on how you and when you want your processor to run so experiment to find your best needs. I keep my processor set at a constant 528MHZ @ 1.325V and i get the best performance out of that.
Anyways hopes this helps, give some feedback if possible. CHEERS :
I have just try it and it's look to be really faster on battery !!!
I will see for power consumption and stability in some days but the first thing is impressive !
Thanks
have you noticed anything with battery consumption yet? the only changes ive noticed are the obvious, such as running/watching near 720p quality videos on battery power and multitasking the **** out of the phone. overall general performance has definately increased from my experience, and i am glad i found this tool. Couple it with the right rom and you now have one of the fastest windows mobile phones (besides HD2) on the market. YAYAYAY! xperia x1 is still useful!!!
Yes I can confirm now that the battery consumption is not different than before !!! and for the moment, no bug at all!
And the speed of the phone is definitivly better !!!
Very great !
I'm surprise to don't see more reply on this topic, this soft is a must to have !!!! My Xperia will have some nice day more
I'm gonna install it and try it as soon as I wake up tomorrow
I will try this one and see the difference.. thank you for the tip..
Thank you for your tips!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ive been investigating the same situation because i would love it if my X1 ran faster to keep up with more modern smartphones out on the mark these days. So heres what ive found out thus far;
- With stock settings, the Xperia X1 cpu (im using MSM7201A 528mhz cpu) is actually underclocked to 384mhz when the battery is being used, and then further underclocked to ~225mhz when the phone idle's for 5000ms.
- However when you apply external power to the phone, the cpu core runs at its full 528mhz speed. I found these power saving techinques employed by HTC or SE or QUALCOMM to be useless, because ive been running my phone at full speed, highest voltage, and the battery life difference is un-noticable.
- Here what you should do to at least make sure your X1 is running at 528mhz (which made WM actually significantly faster) to give yourself a psuedo-overclock;
1. Download "nueDynamicClock-122-v1.3-pack.zip" which i have attached to this post. Extract, copy the contents over to your X1 and run the SETUP file from your PHONE
1b. If you get a security error, you have to install the "EnableRapi.cab" file which i have also attached
2. Once installed, the cpu frequency settings can found it you click on Starty >> Settings >> System. There is a new "processor" icon, and all the settings can be found in there.
The program is very flexible on how you and when you want your processor to run so experiment to find your best needs. I keep my processor set at a constant 528MHZ @ 1.325V and i get the best performance out of that.
Anyways hopes this helps, give some feedback if possible. CHEERS :
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cheers mate works like a charm even when changing panels. everything loads faster even the coreplayer. I have X1i with the R3A rom 528MHZ @ 1.325V
everythings stable also thanks alot!
I'm quite skeptical. I'm pretty sure that the X1 is NOT underclocked when on battery power. If someone shows me before/ after benchmarks, I'll be a believer, but I think this is the placebo effect.
If overclocking works, it will also speed up the boot time, won't it?
I've tried independently on counting startup time. But I don't see different between Max Performance and Default.
Anyway, is it safe if I try it on X2?
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If overclocking works, it will also speed up the boot time, won't it?
I've tried independently on counting startup time. But I don't see different between Max Performance and Default.
Anyway, is it safe if I try it on X2?
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there is an option in the app which is for starting the app after the boot sequence...that should be the reason why there is no difference in boot time
to all you haters
ok first of all;
1. everyone HAS TO REMEMBER that i first ran this application on a STOCK R3A ROGERS CANADA ROM. what i reported is what i noticed, and the difference between the OS running at 384mhz and 528mhz on battery certainly isnt a "placebo" effect. You might be using a different rom, where the cook changed the cpu frequency settings himself but i certainly dont know. If you dont believe me that is underclocking issue is actually an issue, i suggest you google search the topic and check out how many hits you get.
2. The Xperia X2 is running the exact same MSM7201A 528 mhz cpu soo X2 owners should definately check to see if their cpu's are underclocked.
3. Finally i was just trying to help, i love my X1 and i want people to love their X1's too.
ENJOY EVERYONE lets keep this phone ALIVE
installing it right now...
Its amazing.
successfully overclocked x1
hi,i was able to oc my x1 to 672 mhz using the guide in the htc hd forum.try it out.the phone fell faster than ever.
great work. my phone is deffinately running faster
Please read this first, I'm pretty sure the problem is linked to this accident:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056606
For a short time my phone is lacking performance when it isn't connected to something (slow menu animations, snatchy performance in games etc.). Quadrant Benchmark proofs that circumstance too. Without connection my device achieves 'bout 500 points, when it is connected it gets ca. 1000 points. With "CPU Master Free" I've clocked the SGS once to 1Ghz and once to 1,2GHz. In both cases the performance gets better, but still is not as good as when the phone would be charged. Only then it really runs smooth.
I hardly expect you guys can give me another solution than sending the SGS to the repair service, 'coz imho the GPU has suffered certain damage...
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Please read this first, I'm pretty sure the problem is linked to this accident:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056606
For a short time my phone is lacking performance when it isn't connected to something (slow menu animations, snatchy performance in games etc.). Quadrant Benchmark proofs that circumstance too. Without connection my device achieves 'bout 500 points, when it is connected it gets ca. 1000 points. With "CPU Master Free" I've clocked the SGS once to 1Ghz and once to 1,2GHz. In both cases the performance gets better, but still is not as good as when the phone would be charged. Only then it really runs smooth.
I hardly expect you guys can give me another solution than sending the SGS to the repair service, 'coz imho the GPU has suffered certain damage...
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hmm, no idea about any of this so I might as well give you a bump
If I remember there was programs like SetCpu that would set different behavior on charge and no charge. But was a loong time ago. Since I have no idea what rom or kernel you use. Are you sure there is not program/setting/rom setting active that underclocks your SGS whilst not on charge?
Sorry, forgot to mention: I'm using Goatrip's ROM 1.9 with CF Kernel.
I just have a few apps installed, none of them would under- or overclock the system. And as I sad, i don't know how but for me it seems that the problem is linked to the accident. At least it's somehow related to the battery.
Has anyone underclocked their O2X? I personally think that overclock is a bit of a placebo effect so I just want to know if anyone has underclocked their phone and if they can kindly share the performance of the phone as well as some benchmarks. I've seen people underclock their Galaxy S2 right down to 500mhz and performance is very smooth! Is O2X similar?
I didn't do any benchmarks (speaking of placebo effect ) but I use setcpu with vorkkernel so that my top frequency gets more and more limited with the battery level and overnight. This way I manage to only loose 1-2% during the night and the phone alive for a couple of hours when under 15%.
I noticed a certain UI lag when under 500mhz but not so much in the graphics department, I guess the gpu has it's own clock.
I have underclock/undervolt to 800Mhz/900mV and works very smoothly
just got setcpu... those profiles are awesome
Lg home is a memory hog and seems to be quite cpu intensive compared to most other home apps but if using a dif homescreen then maybe it will still perform smoothly otherwise i doubt it will perform good.
Hi... I have installed cynogenmod 7.1 Stable. In Performance > CPU Settings, it shows 216/1000MHz as the only available frequency. I installed SetCPU, it closes saying some error.
Can you please tell me what I have to do, basically I want to underclock it for battery issues.
Thanks
Just undervolted all default values by 100mV, stress test running perfect. CPU at 52C on a 18ish ambient day.
I have 3 setcpu profiles on stock.
In call : 312/216
Screen off : 216/216
Battery <100% : 760/216
Getting amazing stand by time, 2h 30m since I unplugged the charger and only 1% battery spent.
Getting decent results during use as well, or atleast thats what I call it. Earlier today I went through 400+ google reader articles over wifi and watch accompanying youtube videos and also checked some external links. After about 30 mins I lost 7-10% battery. I think thats good enough, unless someone here is about to blow my mind with their results
3h and 30m now still at 99%.
5 minutes of evernote and battery at 95% now. Sooo unsatisfying.
benchmark @800Mhz
what rom you using and what setting for oc
Kickasskev said:
what rom you using and what setting for oc
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Topogigi v20 SP3.
Andrev OC 800MHz wake.
[email protected]
pretty smooth for daily use.
if play heavy games, I restore it back to 1GHz.
what kernel
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Neoblaze, from SP2.
I need as stable ROM as possible, but fast.
all stock from Topogigi's built.
Do you have google video calling via front cam ? That's all I care about and I cant find the answer anywhere.
My lg might be getting decent battery life but the entire operation/daily use experience is very bad. Last night I used subsonic to stream my home library to my phone and while I listened to it I read stuff on google reader and then everything started to lag. Just setting the max and min isn't working well for me. I ran antutu last night and got 4500ish numbers with setcpu and juicedefender off and You are getting 6500+
quabrant 1580marks on 600mhz
after 3 hrs on 600mhz I'm impressed with the battary live!
3hrs wifi browsing, 2times quadtant test. battary dropped 12%
oleg1981 said:
quabrant 1580marks on 600mhz
after 3 hrs on 600mhz I'm impressed with the battary live!
3hrs wifi browsing, 2times quadtant test. battary dropped 12%
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Post more info, what rom, kernel etc. I set my max to 600 and I get good battery but it takes all the fun out of using it, everything lags. You can still do things sure but I dont like lag.
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miina_tokiha said:
Topogigi v20 SP3.
Andrev OC 800MHz wake.
[email protected]
pretty smooth for daily use.
if play heavy games, I restore it back to 1GHz.
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How is the battery life ? Also the 800mhz wake and undervolt are those part of sp3 or extra steps you did ?
retareq said:
Post more info, what rom, kernel etc. I set my max to 600 and I get good battery but it takes all the fun out of using it, everything lags. You can still do things sure but I dont like lag.
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100% stock rom + over it.
the version is 2.2.2 v20b
nothing lags. the only diference i see is thet lock screen sart to respond about 1second after power button is pressed. before it was instant.
Thanks for the info. I'm on v21b rooted with setcpu max set to 600ish and there is noticeable lag everywhere. Feels like how the phone was when I first got it and had to replace the lg launcher to get rid of the lag.
retareq said:
Do you have google video calling via front cam ? That's all I care about and I cant find the answer anywhere.
My lg might be getting decent battery life but the entire operation/daily use experience is very bad. Last night I used subsonic to stream my home library to my phone and while I listened to it I read stuff on google reader and then everything started to lag. Just setting the max and min isn't working well for me. I ran antutu last night and got 4500ish numbers with setcpu and juicedefender off and You are getting 6500+
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6500+ is when I overclock to 1,4GHz.
it's only for benchmark, and not for daily use.
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How is the battery life ? Also the 800mhz wake and undervolt are those part of sp3 or extra steps you did ?
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battery life is about 24h of normal use.
I always connected to wifi.
oh, and I replace LG Home Launcher with Xperia Launcer.
it's lighter, no lag even use lower clock speed.
Hello all!
When I use my Z3C and doing nothing, I mean... just having the phone in my hand, slide between homescreen pages juste for... you know... when you have this sexy lady in your hand... just for looking
But even if I do almost nothing with it, I feel the back hot and my battery apps tell me that the battery is more than 40 degrees. Just for better results I downloaded the app "CPU temp" or "CPU-Z" and it tells me that the CPU is at 45 degrees.
And when I play games the back is more hot!
I just want to know if it's normal? If your Z3C is hot too. I know if I play it's hot but if 40 degrees just for using it with normal apps (Twitter etc...) it's normal?
Can you make some quick test, download CPU-Z and check the "thermal" tab for example or what you want?
For more simplicity in the thread, if you want and if you can, download the app CPU-Z and post the result of "thermal" tab here (just the first line temp), thanks!
And I even see videos of AnTuTu benchmarks on YouTube and the Z3C is at 47xxx... but my Z3C is always between 43xxx - 44xxx ... I don't know if it's the same problem. What scores have you in AnTuTu?
thank you all!
(My phone is STOCK and completly clean, just hard reset before test temp)
my phone is always on 50+ celsius but i think it's normal. it happen on LG G3 too
After about 15 minutes of gaming, my sensor says 40.0 c., but I also have my CPU downclocked by a lot to extend battery life by huge margins. Stock setting puts the CPU frequency at 2.5ghz, and I have mine downclocked to 1.0ghz since I didn't see direct impact on performance with the games I'm playing (mostly emulators or GPU-dependent games).
tsens_tz_sensor0 is the highest at 40.0 c
msm_therm is the lowest at 32.0 c
At stock settings though, my phone runs at 50.0c on average, and it heats up about as much as my Galaxy Note 3 when they're playing the same games. For awhile, I thought the Z3c just heated up more than other phones, but after playing with both phones at relatively the same time, I realize that's pretty much just in my head.
Oh, forgot to mention. Also running on stock 5.1.1 that's rooted, debloated, xposed with greenify and amplify, and a custom Luxx profile to manage adaptive brightness.