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Is this a genuine site?

www . fastgsm . com/en/motorola/motorola/xt860-4g/unlock-subsidy (remove the spaces...sorry new here but lurking for sometime.)
I don't know haven't seen any unlocked sets being sold or released anywhere...I've been waiting impatiently for XT860...
I'm from Pakistan..
anyhow aside from this I'd love it if people share what else I have to worry about this cell..I've been hearing a lot of things about it like it rebooting randomly, the blue tinted camera snaps..and in particular one case I read on an other forum over heating..which seriously freaks me out cause whatever I buy if faulty is gonna be real hard for me..

While I cannot comment on that specific site, but yes, Droid 3 can be sim unlocked.

Can anyone tell which is the best site that can ship internationally and is legitmate for XT860...

There are a few reputable sellers on ebay selling unlock codes for about $24-ish.

You can get it unlocked at mobileincanada for less ($20). You still need to secure a device from somewhere though, which turns to be a tough thing if you want it now, especially if you are not in Canada...

eXecuter.bin said:
While I cannot comment on that specific site, but yes, Droid 3 can be sim unlocked.
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He is talking about the XT860 (Canada/Bell), and not the XT862 (Droid 3) (USA/Verizon).
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There are a few reputable sellers on ebay selling unlock codes for about $24-ish.
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Link? I don't see any for the XT860 on eBay.
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_from=R...3&_nkw=xt860+unlock&_sacat=See-All-Categories
leobg said:
You can get it unlocked at mobileincanada for less ($20). You still need to secure a device from somewhere though, which turns to be a tough thing if you want it now, especially if you are not in Canada...
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I wonder whether they can really unlock it. The site said they can unlock the XT860, even before the XT860 was released. They probably assume that because the Droid 3 is unlockable, the XT860 also is.
redfeeniks said:
http://www.fastgsm.com/en/motorola/motorola/xt860-4g/unlock-subsidy [...]
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Looks okay.

deoxy said:
I wonder whether they can really unlock it. The site said they can unlock the XT860, even before the XT860 was released. They probably assume that because the Droid 3 is unlockable, the XT860 also is.
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I was able to unlock my Milestone 1 on release day with them. I am willing to believe them they do. (Plus you can buy unlock code from Bell but for $75 if I remember right).
There is a word Bongo in Markham (if you are in GTA) will carry them soon and they usually sell phones unlocked. Actually they have an online store and even ship internationally.

Atrix HD Developer Edition Coming soon

We’re happy to announce that the MOTOROLA ATRIX™ HD will be available in a Developer Edition and also be a supported device in the Bootloader Unlock program. It has the same features and specs as the regular MOTOROLA ATRIX HD, but allows the infinite customization possibilities offered by an unlockable bootloader. Unlocking a bootloader isn’t for everyone, but for some, it’s a must-have.
http://www.motorola.com/blog/2012/11/06/announcing-the-motorola-atrix-hd-developer-edition/

Now that's some bull****.

I don't understand why they won't do it like HTC and let anyone opt in to unlocking their bootloader. I doubt there's any real changes. Just certain IMEIs or serial numbers are able to use the unlock.
When Moto shafted the Atrix users and reneged on updating the Atrix I should've stayed away. I don't understand how they sit down in a room and come up with these ideas and think the customer will not mind.

Moto makes good phones, but they are morons
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Based on this announcement, can we ever expect an unlocked bootloader for our already purchased atrixes?
If not I might have to ditch the phone, which is really a shame.

It's still there. I tried to comment similarly though and it wouldn't let me.
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This is the deciding factor that's pushing me to pick up a Nexus 4. :|

Are you effing kidding me???

SirHoover2010 said:
Moto makes good phones, but they are morons
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AT&T refuses to allow the AT&T branded ATRIX HD to be in the unlock program... Motorola is now releasing an unlockable version and going past AT&T. And somehow Motorola are the morons?

ripin150 said:
This is the deciding factor that's pushing me to pick up a Nexus 4. :|
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+100,000,000
Sent from my A H Delicious Maxxx!

Yea but they could do a lot of things to help us out. Such as leak a jb that unlock bootloader, have "something go wrong" where the bootloader tool now works for us
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Yup, we've all been screwed, now we need to find a way to unlock the bootloader without moto's help. also, the only difference between that and the bell edition is that stupid at&t logo at the bottom of it... this is complete crap and such a waste for a phone with so much potential that is now just going to fade away to oblivion.

SirHoover2010 said:
Yea but they could do a lot of things to help us out. Such as leak a jb that unlock bootloader, have "something go wrong" where the bootloader tool now works for us
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They are respecting AT&T's wishes. They told everyone beforehand the ATRIX HD would not be unlockable.... expecting otherwise is lunacy.

mattlgroff said:
They are respecting AT&T's wishes. They told everyone beforehand the ATRIX HD would not be unlockable.... expecting otherwise is lunacy.
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I dont expect an unlocked bootloader. I just don't like having the option for an unlocked bootloader coming out a month and a half after I got the phone. Also I spoke with moto and asked about the retail version being unlocked and they said "I can not answer that question, as I do not have permission discussing that" so I have never heard motorola say that the Atrix hd will NEVER be unlocked. They may have but I have not heard it. Either way I like this phone, but they should have said MUCH earlier that they plan a dev edition so everyone that wanted the dev edition could wait. Not get stuck with the retail version.

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They are respecting AT&T's wishes. They told everyone beforehand the ATRIX HD would not be unlockable.... expecting otherwise is lunacy.
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That isn't what they said. They said it is locked, but "our goal is still to provide a way to unlock the bootloaders on our devices to those who wish to do so, more details to come."

mandrsn1 said:
That isn't what they said. They said it is locked, but "our goal is still to provide a way to unlock the bootloaders on our devices to those who wish to do so, more details to come."
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I remember reading that several places. It's a shame the Moto can't do right by their customers and support us, rather than bowing to ATT. I understand they need ATT to carry their phones, but there needs to be an option for us. That is what is suppose to be what is great about android, the unlimited possibilities. A dev edition phone is helpful to those that don't already have the phone. I for one will not sell this phone then spend 250-350 more for the dev edition, I'll buy a sammy phone. I believe that since we are the customers that spend OUR money on their product, we should get more support. I for one will not buy another moto device if I don't see a huge improvement in the way the support their customers.

They need to "leak" an update on one of those servers that unlocks the BL.

rquinn19 said:
They need to "leak" an update on one of those servers that unlocks the BL.
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My original idea...Easy to do and nothing ATT can do about it

SirHoover2010 said:
My original idea...Easy to do and nothing ATT can do about it
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Isn't that what happened with the OG atrix?

mandrsn1 said:
Isn't that what happened with the OG atrix?
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Correct.

(Q) AT&T to Verizon

When I searched for this I saw many posts from last year, and so I'm not sure if anything has changed. This is likely a stupid question, but I can't seem to find a straight answer.
I have an HTC One M7, and the screen is literally falling out of it. I want to pull the trigger on a nexus 6, and looking on Ebay I see that the AT&T version is the cheapest. I've read that these are locked, but that (at least a year ago) AT&T were letting people unlock them. Is this true? Should I buy one of these phones can I go to an AT&T store and get it unlocked to use a different carrier? I'm on Verizon and since the status of my unlimited data is always in limbo, the less I have to talk to them the better. I'm aware there is a site that will unlock phones, but if I can do it for free, that seems preferable.
Also, aside from doing it myself is there any place I can get my sim card cut? Someone said that bestbuy used to do it, but the nearest one is a long drive for me, and I'd hate to make the trip for nothing.

in order to unlock an att n6 thats sim locked, the phone has to be 100% paid off(to att). if the person is selling it, it might be, or might not. thats the very first thing that i would ask the seller. if it isnt, id avoid buying it, as it could be stolen. if it was stolen, att will never unlock it for you.

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Snip.
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Interesting, a lot of the sellers are re-sellers of used phones, how could you actually check to see if it's paid off or not?

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Interesting, a lot of the sellers are re-sellers of used phones, how could you actually check to see if it's paid off or not?
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there are a few places online that you enter the imei number and itll say if its been reported stolen or not, or if its been placed on the list. if it has been placed on the list, then every US carrier will not let you use the phone on their networks. but the only way to tell 100% is ro buy it and try it(but i dont recommend this way).

Well, the seller (of the phone I'm looking at) claims it's a clean IMEI, literally in the title, but that doesn't alleviate the problem of finding out if it's been fully paid off, right?

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Well, the seller (of the phone I'm looking at) claims it's a clean IMEI, literally in the title, but that doesn't alleviate the problem of finding out if it's been fully paid off, right?
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nope. ask them, the most direct way to get an answer. and ask them if they got it unlocked, if it is paid for.

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nope. ask them, the most direct way to get an answer. and ask them if they got it unlocked, if it is paid for.
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Well, the answer they gave me is that AT&T phones cannot be unlocked. So either they never tried, or they just don't know it's possible.

squat251 said:
Well, the answer they gave me is that AT&T phones cannot be unlocked. So either they never tried, or they just don't know it's possible.
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lol, ive never heard that one before, of all the ridiculous things that ive heard said before. funny that att would put up a "fake" website for requesting unlock codes then https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/?#/
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btw..
General Requirements for All Unlock Requests
The device must be designed for use on, and locked to, the AT&T wireless network. (For help see Device Unlock Support )
It must not be reported lost or stolen.
It’s not associated with fraudulent activity.
All the device’s service commitments and installment plans are completed, and all early termination fees are paid in full.
The device is not currently active on a different AT&T customer’s account.
If you performed an early upgrade, you must wait the 14-day buyer’s remorse period before you can request to unlock your previous device.
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lol, ive never heard that one before, of all the ridiculous things that ive heard said before. funny that att would put up a "fake" website for requesting unlock codes then https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/?#/
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THe at&t only phones can't be unlocked, please keep an eye i may update the listing with unlocked devices, waiting to see if they can be unlocked or not.
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His response after telling him I needed to know if it had been paid off (and why).
Perhaps that means he's tried and they cannot be unlocked, I'm not sure he wasn't all that clear.

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His response after telling him I needed to know if it had been paid off (and why).
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well, if he gets it unlocked, then id say go for it

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well, if he gets it unlocked, then id say go for it
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I'd say if he manages to unlock it, he's going to price it the same as everyone else with unlocked phones the goal was to avoid that lol.

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I'd say if he manages to unlock it, he's going to price it the same as everyone else with unlocked phones the goal was to avoid that lol.
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oh, hope not! btw, what was he offering before?

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oh, hope not! btw, what was he offering before?
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265 for an A+ condition used phone. unlocked phones are going in the 300+ range, I can get one brand new for 300 and change from http://www.expansys-usa.com/google-nexus-6-smartphone-xt1103-unlocked-32gb-cloud-white-284542/

I recommend you avoid buying from Expansys, check around at least first.
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verizon Motorola Droid turbo unlock bootloader

Hello, i have a Motorola Droid turbo stock, with ultimate release android 5.1.. I noto can unlock bootloader whit sunshine apk.. I try can forum officiale Motorola whit code bootloader and not found compatibility.. Please help me to unlock bootloader, i can flash cm13

SylarScareCrow said:
Hello, i have a Motorola Droid turbo stock, with ultimate release android 5.1.. I
noto can unlock bootloader whit sunshine apk..
I try can forum officiale Motorola whit code bootloader and not found compatibility..
Please help me to unlock bootloader, i can flash cm13
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What is "ultimate release 5.1"?
Which factory image version? If you took the 5.1-SU4TL-49 update you are out of luck.
Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=66869729
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Just a PSA, after the new SU4TL-49 5.1 update SunShine will be unable to unlock the bootloader.
If you are already unlocked, you are fine (dont relock it!).
If you take the 5.1-SU4TL-49 or 6.0 beta update prior to unlocking, then you are so out of luck.
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People stop taking the OTA update! It's only to prevent you from unlocking your bootloader! Verizon is evil, don't you understand?
Of all the Quarks, only the Verizon one (Droid Turbo XT1254) cannot be unlocked from the Motorola website. Because Verizon demands Motorola keep the bootloader locked down.
All the other Quarks (U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250, International Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx XT1225) can easily be unlocked with a code from Motorola.
So, when an exploit is found (Sunshine) to forcibly unlock the bootloader, of course any Verizon update AFTER that will be to prevent that exploit from working. Duh. Because Verizon is evil.

Yes have a su4tl-49 ((
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What is "ultimate release 5.1"?
Which factory image version? If you took the 5.1-SU4TL-49 update you are out of luck.
Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=66869729
People stop taking the OTA update! It's only to prevent you from unlocking your bootloader! Verizon is evil, don't you understand?
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SylarScareCrow said:
Yes have a su4tl-49 ((
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Very sorry. Nothing you can do. Thank Verizon.

Is impossibile a sunshine.apk update for this problemi in future?
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Very sorry. Nothing you can do. Thank Verizon.
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SylarScareCrow said:
Is impossibile a sunshine.apk update for this problemi in future?
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@jcase, whom I quoted above is the Sunshine guru. He says no. (Edit: See below. He says maybe. But the last one took a year to find.)
The Sunshine exploit worked on SU4TL-44 Stock. If you go past that, you are out of luck. The recent OTA update closes that loophole and you cannot revert firmware.
It took a year to even find the first exploit and it was unique to Snapdragon 805. The Verizon Droid Turbo is a late 2014 phone. Even if there was another exploit, it takes time and money to find them, bricking phones in the process. This is why the first exploit was packaged into $25 fee, to compensate the devs and fund their research.
This phone isn't even being made anymore, so investing any more time and money to find another exploit for people who take OTA updates without investigating is probably not going to happen, for a phone that will soon be 2 years old. There are many other newer phones that can get the attention.
People on Verizon who REALLY want a "Droid Turbo" with a bootloader that can easily be unlocked will buy the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250. Same device as the Droid Turbo, same bands, same hardware, same FCC ID. And bootloader can be unlocked via Motorola website.
IF you don't have Verizon and don't need CDMA bands (or LTE band 13), then the XT1225 is even better. More HSPA bands, more LTE bands. LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17. And bootloader can be unlocked via Motorola website.
They are all Quarks with the same hardware. The XT1254/XT1250 even share the same radio bands, same FCC ID. The XT1225 has different radio bands.

SylarScareCrow said:
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Answer is maybe. We wont be investing in another round of research for the Droid Turbo itself, if we have some research on another device that crosses over with the Turbo then maybe. A small maybe.

You're all just front runners of a arrogant and pointless waste of time... Let's investigate this and fund this for $25 so the dev can get rich on something he stole from someone else and takes the money and credit. But he'll yea, let's keep cheating people out of money and point the finger at noobs and other individuals that don't spend pointless and limitless time on browsing lines of code, just to say I know how to flash this and exploit that. Listen,......who gives a **** buddy. Another thing, don't belittle someone that doesn't have the same knowledge and asks the "annoying" questions..... We people of the society have other things we are doing, besides having a phone in one ear and a keyboard typing in commands in abd fastboot crammed up our ass.... Thanks..."Fin"

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You're all just front runners of a arrogant and pointless waste of time... Let's investigate this and fund this for $25 so the dev can get rich on something he stole from someone else and takes the money and credit. But he'll yea, let's keep cheating people out of money and point the finger at noobs and other individuals that don't spend pointless and limitless time on browsing lines of code, just to say I know how to flash this and exploit that. Listen,......who gives a **** buddy. Another thing, don't belittle someone that doesn't have the same knowledge and asks the "annoying" questions..... We people of the society have other things we are doing, besides having a phone in one ear and a keyboard typing in commands in abd fastboot crammed up our ass.... Thanks..."Fin"
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Actually the blame all rests on Verizon for demanding Motorola lock the bootloader. Other Quarks -- even one IDENTICAL to the Droid Turbo sold under another model name -- are not locked down. Verizon is the villain.
Credit goes to any devs who create a workaround. But it's not always possible. The exploit found took a year of research, bricked phones, etc to find. Nobody "stole" anything. The exploit was published publicly. You can write an installer yourself if you have the skill, and give it away for FREE. The fact that no one else has done so means there must not be that much demand.
But if you took the recent Verizon SU4TL-49 OTA update, you are out of luck. Simple as that. Verizon is to blame -- but so are the users who blindly take an update from an evil carrier who locks down bootloaders. The dev even created an XDA thread specifically warning people NOT to take the update! Don't know what else could be done except for owners to take some responsibility and exercise common sense?
If you are on a carrier locked down bootloader phone, and you are wanting to escape from that prison, you should know not to take any carrier OTA updates until you investigate WHY the update was published -- in this case to specifically shut down that exploit.
Of course anyone who buys this phone KNOWS it's locked down and shouldn't expect a bootloader unlock in the first place. Anyone who buys it, KNOWS it's crippled. They need to buy another Quark, like the XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx -- which is the exact same device as the Droid Turbo XT1254 with Verizon bands and everything. Droid Turbo owners were just very lucky a dev created an exploit that could unlock the bootloader for one version of firmware.
Wonder why you created this new user name to post this one response? Already an XDA member and don't want to burn your regular user name? Or just a lurker who took the OTA update, huh? Blame Verizon and yourself, not the messengers. You bought the phone, knowing it was locked down. It's Verizon. That's what they do.
So, there was a brief window of escape, starting last November on firmware SU4TL-44 . The Sunshine devs gave you that window of freedom and somehow you are mad at them?
The locked down Droid Turbo anyone bought is STILL the locked down Droid Turbo they bought. It still functions just like it was bought. No one has harmed their phone. The only difference is if you take the SU4TL-49 OTA update it will remain locked down -- whereas before that OTA thanks to Sunshine you could unlock it, install custom recovery, root, custom ROMs. If that's important to you, then yeah, you do some research first here on XDA or even just using Google. (I never buy a phone I can't unlock the bootloader and root.)
But if you don't do research first, then obviously unlocking the bootloader is not that important to you? And the phone functions just like when you bought it.

Well folks I hate to say it but all I did was call Motorola, told them I have a droid turbo and in the developer settings there is a key to unlock OEM bootloader but does nothing. They asked for my email and sent me the complete link as to unlock the bootloader. BAM! I'M UNLOCKED!!!

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Well folks I hate to say it but all I did was call Motorola, told them I have a droid turbo and in the developer settings there is a key to unlock OEM bootloader but does nothing. They asked for my email and sent me the complete link as to unlock the bootloader. BAM! I'M UNLOCKED!!!
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Wait , what? Can you share little more info on this?? Which phone exactly you have?
EDIT: Tried this right away, of course it didn't work . They told me that it's not part of unlockable bootloader program, but to check often because they very often add new phones to the program.
Also , on the link they gave me, I don't see Moto Maxx either https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215

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Well folks I hate to say it but all I did was call Motorola, told them I have a droid turbo and in the developer settings there is a key to unlock OEM bootloader but does nothing. They asked for my email and sent me the complete link as to unlock the bootloader. BAM! I'M UNLOCKED!!!
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how to set phone in developer setting? maybe not all the phone can get the unlock code.

EjđiSixo said:
Also , on the link they gave me, I don't see Moto Maxx either https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215
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Doesn't show up for Moto Maxx, but it works anyway. It did show up in previous version of website. And owners recently are still getting their XT1225/XT1250 unlocked, as evidenced by questions in my Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo guide in the other forum. So, it still works for those phones.
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Well folks I hate to say it but all I did was call Motorola, told them I have a droid turbo and in the developer settings there is a key to unlock OEM bootloader but does nothing. They asked for my email and sent me the complete link as to unlock the bootloader. BAM! I'M UNLOCKED!!!
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Pictures or it didn't happen.
Show us bootloader status picture.
That will prove everything you just said, that you actually have a Droid Turbo and the bootloader is indeed unlocked. Extra credit if you post the communication from Motorola.

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Doesn't show up for Moto Maxx, but it works anyway. It did show up in previous version of website. And owners recently are still getting their XT1225/XT1250 unlocked, as evidenced by questions in my guide in the other forum. So, it still works for those phones.
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Pictures or it didn't happen.
Show us bootloader status picture.
That will prove everything you just said, that you actually have a Droid Turbo and the bootloader is indeed unlocked. Extra credit if you post the communication.
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Probably had moto maxx or noob assistent gave code without knowing they can although I don't think they can do that, system would probably block it.

butler911 said:
Well folks I hate to say it but all I did was call Motorola, told them I have a droid turbo and in the developer settings there is a key to unlock OEM bootloader but does nothing. They asked for my email and sent me the complete link as to unlock the bootloader. BAM! I'M UNLOCKED!!!
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Probably had moto maxx or noob assistent gave code without knowing they can although I don't think they can do that, system would probably block it.
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I'm very skeptical of someone with just two posts. Trolls do abound, you know. I prefer more proof than someone just typing a few taunting words into a forum. I would be curious if he was already on Marshmallow when this alleged bootloader unlock code was given.
About a year ago, someone posted how he had "flashed a Nexus 6 ROM" over his Droid Turbo and it "worked perfectly" and encouraged everyone else to do the same. 2014 Shamu and Quark were both released by Motorola at the same time, share a lot of the same specs -- and well known Motorola had a 5.2" Shamu variant in testing as late as mid-August 2014. But Google chose the 6" WHALE to be the only gen6 Nexus phone. Quark in many ways is the sibling to Shamu (perhaps the 5.2" was even re-purposed for Quark?), very similar to how the 2013 LG Nexus 5 and LG G2 were developed at the same time on parallel path by LG. BUT, you can't flash Nexus 6 (Shamu) ROMs over Quark, so matter how much you might envy Nexus development.
The only way you can do that is to disable some safety measures, and yes if you are silly enough you can brick your phone. Basically he had bricked his phone and was mad -- and misery loves company. The thread was quickly locked and everyone was told NOT to even try it.
My point is you can't believe everything someone types unless they offer some kind of proof.

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I'm very skeptical of someone with just two posts. Trolls do abound, you know. I prefer more proof than someone just typing a few taunting words into a forum. I would be curious if he was already on Marshmallow when this alleged bootloader unlock code was given.
About a year ago, someone posted how he had "flashed a Nexus 6 ROM" over his Droid Turbo and it "worked perfectly" and encouraged everyone else to do the same. 2014 Shamu and Quark were both released by Motorola at the same time, share a lot of the same specs -- and well known Motorola had a 5.2" Shamu variant in testing as late as mid-August 2014. But Google chose the 6" WHALE to be the only gen6 Nexus phone. Quark in many ways is the sibling to Shamu (perhaps the 5.2" was even re-purposed for Quark?), very similar to how the 2013 LG Nexus 5 and LG G2 were developed at the same time on parallel path by LG. BUT, you can't flash Nexus 6 (Shamu) ROMs over Quark, so matter how much you might envy Nexus development.
The only way you can do that is to disable some safety measures, and yes if you are silly enough you can brick your phone. Basically he had bricked his phone and was mad -- and misery loves company. The thread was quickly locked and everyone was told NOT to even try it.
My point is you can't believe everything someone types unless they offer some kind of proof.
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Your very correct and I do want to say that this is an excellent site with very true and capable designers! Trust me I'm absolutely no troll, I hate them, I was just simply putting my experience out there for others to try. I meant no disrespect or meant to step on anyone's toes. My apologies

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Your very correct and I do want to say that this is an excellent site with very true and capable designers! Trust me I'm absolutely no troll, I hate them, I was just simply putting my experience out there for others to try. I meant no disrespect or meant to step on anyone's toes. My apologies
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You're not stepping on anyone's toes. If true, then somehow you gamed the system in a way no one has been able to do. Congratulations on your good fortune!
Just asking for a couple of screenshots for proof, maybe the Motorola communication? Maybe someone else can do the same?
Were you on stock Lollipop or Marshmallow?

Should I return the ATT version?

I am junior here at XDA and am aware of the protocols for posting (search, search, search before asking), My query doesn't match anything I looked for because it is a combo of different things. Hence, this new thread
a) I've bought an ATT G020J on Ebay that will work with Cricket (that's what the listing said) and I am on Tmob. It is without contract, so I am assuming it is unlockable. Has anyone here tried crossflashing IMG files previously between these two exact carriers; is that even poss?
b) In cue, anyone care to share experience with ATT folks unlocking P4XL specifically, for other carriers?
b) Did October update/patch ruin face unlock for most or only few?
I will return or keep the item based on your generous/helpful replies.
Once again, I apologize before hand if I missed any existing thread that might have alluded to these three issues.

sdg1980 said:
I am junior here at XDA and am aware of the protocols for posting (search, search, search before asking), My query doesn't match anything I looked for because it is a combo of different things. Hence, this new thread
a) I've bought an ATT G020J on Ebay that will work with Cricket (that's what the listing said) and I am on Tmob. It is without contract, so I am assuming it is unlockable. Has anyone here tried crossflashing IMG files previously between these two exact carriers; is that even poss?
b) In cue, anyone care to share experience with ATT folks unlocking P4XL specifically, for other carriers?
b) Did October update/patch ruin face unlock for most or only few?
I will return or keep the item based on your generous/helpful replies.
Once again, I apologize before hand if I missed any existing thread that might have alluded to these three issues.
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Can I ask why you didn't just buy the correct carrier specific Pixel? Also, buying an unlocked version avoids all of this experimentation. Prices are down right now and you can get an unlocked Pixel for not much more than a carrier locked version.
As far as your question, It's not going to work by your logic. Your not going to be able to flash anything that will carrier unlock or switch the phone, otherwise everyone would do it and every Pixel would be unlockable (which they aren't)
My suggestion is return the phone and buy an unlocked Pixel.
October patch didn't harm my face unlock in any way. I haven't Heard any widespread issues regarding have unlock and the October patch.

sdg1980 said:
I am junior here at XDA and am aware of the protocols for posting (search, search, search before asking), My query doesn't match anything I looked for because it is a combo of different things. Hence, this new thread...
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The phone will likely come both carrier locked and bootloader locked. There are quite a few threads on XDA about carrier locked phones. Hopefully you can return and get your money back. Best of luck.

1dopewrx05 said:
Can I ask why you didn't just buy the correct carrier specific Pixel? Also, buying an unlocked version avoids all of this experimentation. Prices are down right now and you can get an unlocked Pixel for not much more than a carrier locked version.
As far as your question, It's not going to work by your logic. Your not going to be able to flash anything that will carrier unlock or switch the phone, otherwise everyone would do it and every Pixel would be unlockable (which they aren't)
My suggestion is return the phone and buy an unlocked Pixel.
October patch didn't harm my face unlock in any way. I haven't Heard any widespread issues regarding have unlock and the October patch.
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Why?-- Bands are exactly the same across ALL variants here in the US, other than carrier-locked OEM pickle. So, once it is out of contract, the question was meant to see if anyone has had experience requesting and getting unlock code from the orange carrier.
---Magenta versions are more expensive, based solely on condition of the phone
--- dependable and reputable seller I have bought multiple times in the past had a 9.9+/10 condition with original packaging for $379. Could not pass that up.
(You are right, in that I could have bought the unlocked version. Not sure about you but I pay outright but for previous years' flagships, but only when they are in the $400 range, which is the most I can afford to cough out at once. I don't like doing installments unless they be for a car or house because that's just me)
Sammy's galaxies, albeit Exynos not SD, are often flashed across each other, despite the company's stranglehold on their version of Android. Google being the 'truer' open sourced company, my idea was if, again, anyone had done boot image flashing across different models but once out of contract and unlocked
Thank you for the last bit as well. There was a Reddit thread complaining how the security patch had ruined the face unlock/sensor. But your statement is assuring.

v12xke said:
The phone will likely come both carrier locked and bootloader locked. There are quite a few threads on XDA about carrier locked phones. Hopefully you can return and get your money back. Best of luck.
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okay, thank youI shall look into it. I have a thirty day return window, so if nothing, I can return it within few days of researching to get it unlocked. The unit is assuredly out of contract for sure even if it is meant for AT&T network.

sdg1980 said:
okay, thank youI shall look into it. I have a thirty day return window, so if nothing, I can return it within few days of researching to get it unlocked. The unit is assuredly out of contract for sure even if it is meant for AT&T network.
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"Out of contract" doesn't mean anything. The market is flooded with locked phones for sale cheap. Could be stolen, could be broken contract, could be blacklisted, etc. Because it is carrier locked you *will have to* go through AT&T to get it unlocked. If the seller was legit, in good standing with AT&T and had simply upgraded to a new phone they could have easily had AT&T unlock it for free OTA and it would have been more valuable/marketable. There are also several threads here on XDA that will give you some insight on trying to get an AT&T phone carrier unlocked. I wish you the best of luck, but you are in for an uphill battle.

v12xke said:
"Out of contract" doesn't mean anything. The market is flooded with locked phones for sale cheap. Could be stolen, could be broken contract, could be blacklisted, etc. Because it is carrier locked you *will have to* go through AT&T to get it unlocked. If the seller was legit, in good standing with AT&T and had simply upgraded to a new phone they could have easily had AT&T unlock it for free OTA and it would have been more valuable/marketable. There are also several threads here on XDA that will give you some insight on trying to get an AT&T phone carrier unlocked. I wish you the best of luck, but you are in for an uphill battle.
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Thank you for the reminder. Yes, interestingly, seller should have been able to unlock it if it were out of contract and then sell. Let's see where I end up. I shall update the information here once I go through the grind.
I am currently searching for relevant threads of ATT unlocking Pixel 4XL...

sdg1980 said:
Thank you for the reminder. Yes, interestingly, seller should have been able to unlock it if it were out of contract and then sell. Let's see where I end up. I shall update the information here once I go through the grind.
I am currently searching for relevant threads of ATT unlocking Pixel 4XL...
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Have you find one of those threads?

movilserver said:
Have you find one of those threads?
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THIS THREAD does a pretty good job of explaining it. If you are able to get AT&T to carrier unlock your phone, you can then unlock the bootloader too, if you wish. Only AT&T can whitelist the IMEI on the AT&T variant. @sdg1980

v12xke said:
THIS THREAD does a pretty good job of explaining it. If you are able to get AT&T to carrier unlock your phone, you can then unlock the bootloader too, if you wish. Only AT&T can whitelist the IMEI on the AT&T variant. @sdg1980
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Thank you so much for that! I found that as well prior to posting this original thread. Seemed to be a mixed bag for commenting members. Persistence paid off for some, even within the contract period. I am chalking that up to luck and probably ill-informed techs who screwed their own employer. Ironically, @jac0b was unsuccessful in requesting unlock from AT&T. I have posed him a question about whether his device was paid off or not when he requested or had any particular hurdle unique to his case. Third party or ATT...,,,neither will unlock at any cost until the device is paid off, bad ESN, prepaid device within two month window, and some more stipulations I can't remember. They are listed on the vendors' websites.

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