We’re happy to announce that the MOTOROLA ATRIX™ HD will be available in a Developer Edition and also be a supported device in the Bootloader Unlock program. It has the same features and specs as the regular MOTOROLA ATRIX HD, but allows the infinite customization possibilities offered by an unlockable bootloader. Unlocking a bootloader isn’t for everyone, but for some, it’s a must-have.
http://www.motorola.com/blog/2012/11/06/announcing-the-motorola-atrix-hd-developer-edition/
Now that's some bull****.
I don't understand why they won't do it like HTC and let anyone opt in to unlocking their bootloader. I doubt there's any real changes. Just certain IMEIs or serial numbers are able to use the unlock.
When Moto shafted the Atrix users and reneged on updating the Atrix I should've stayed away. I don't understand how they sit down in a room and come up with these ideas and think the customer will not mind.
Moto makes good phones, but they are morons
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Based on this announcement, can we ever expect an unlocked bootloader for our already purchased atrixes?
If not I might have to ditch the phone, which is really a shame.
It's still there. I tried to comment similarly though and it wouldn't let me.
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This is the deciding factor that's pushing me to pick up a Nexus 4. :|
Are you effing kidding me???
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Moto makes good phones, but they are morons
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AT&T refuses to allow the AT&T branded ATRIX HD to be in the unlock program... Motorola is now releasing an unlockable version and going past AT&T. And somehow Motorola are the morons?
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This is the deciding factor that's pushing me to pick up a Nexus 4. :|
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+100,000,000
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Yea but they could do a lot of things to help us out. Such as leak a jb that unlock bootloader, have "something go wrong" where the bootloader tool now works for us
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Yup, we've all been screwed, now we need to find a way to unlock the bootloader without moto's help. also, the only difference between that and the bell edition is that stupid at&t logo at the bottom of it... this is complete crap and such a waste for a phone with so much potential that is now just going to fade away to oblivion.
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Yea but they could do a lot of things to help us out. Such as leak a jb that unlock bootloader, have "something go wrong" where the bootloader tool now works for us
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They are respecting AT&T's wishes. They told everyone beforehand the ATRIX HD would not be unlockable.... expecting otherwise is lunacy.
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They are respecting AT&T's wishes. They told everyone beforehand the ATRIX HD would not be unlockable.... expecting otherwise is lunacy.
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I dont expect an unlocked bootloader. I just don't like having the option for an unlocked bootloader coming out a month and a half after I got the phone. Also I spoke with moto and asked about the retail version being unlocked and they said "I can not answer that question, as I do not have permission discussing that" so I have never heard motorola say that the Atrix hd will NEVER be unlocked. They may have but I have not heard it. Either way I like this phone, but they should have said MUCH earlier that they plan a dev edition so everyone that wanted the dev edition could wait. Not get stuck with the retail version.
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They are respecting AT&T's wishes. They told everyone beforehand the ATRIX HD would not be unlockable.... expecting otherwise is lunacy.
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That isn't what they said. They said it is locked, but "our goal is still to provide a way to unlock the bootloaders on our devices to those who wish to do so, more details to come."
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That isn't what they said. They said it is locked, but "our goal is still to provide a way to unlock the bootloaders on our devices to those who wish to do so, more details to come."
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I remember reading that several places. It's a shame the Moto can't do right by their customers and support us, rather than bowing to ATT. I understand they need ATT to carry their phones, but there needs to be an option for us. That is what is suppose to be what is great about android, the unlimited possibilities. A dev edition phone is helpful to those that don't already have the phone. I for one will not sell this phone then spend 250-350 more for the dev edition, I'll buy a sammy phone. I believe that since we are the customers that spend OUR money on their product, we should get more support. I for one will not buy another moto device if I don't see a huge improvement in the way the support their customers.
They need to "leak" an update on one of those servers that unlocks the BL.
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They need to "leak" an update on one of those servers that unlocks the BL.
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My original idea...Easy to do and nothing ATT can do about it
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My original idea...Easy to do and nothing ATT can do about it
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Isn't that what happened with the OG atrix?
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Isn't that what happened with the OG atrix?
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Correct.
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Im a first time andriod phone buyer and am starting to wonder if I bought the wrong one....
Is it just me or is this forum dead compared to the Skyrocket. Will there be an unlock for the boot loader?
Needless to say, I like the phone just wish we had more support...or will that come with time?
With a locked bootloader we are in habit of a jam however HTC had stated they will release the unlock, hopfuly Revolutionary and the likes are looking into exploits to get soff and boot
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With a locked bootloader we are in habit of a jam however HTC had stated they will release the unlock, hopfuly Revolutionary and the likes are looking into exploits to get soff and boot
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Can you post a link to where HTC has said they will release an unlock?
just google around the fourm, Except AT&T all HTC Vivid variations are already supporting unlocked bootloader (Through htcdev.com)
If you are AT&T , bootloader is locked at the request of AT&T and I know you can call AT&T and complain because in USA google pushed for a law that would make all device unlocked on the new 700Mhz spectrum.
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Can you post a link to where HTC has said they will release an unlock?
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zombie.raised said:
just google around the fourm, Except AT&T all HTC Vivid variations are already supporting unlocked bootloader (Through htcdev.com)
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-announced-new-bootloader-policy
"There has been overwhelmingly [sic] customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience."
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If you are AT&T , bootloader is locked at the request of AT&T and I know you can call AT&T and complain because in USA google pushed for a law that would make all device unlocked on the new 700Mhz spectrum.
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HTC internal tech told me that ATT has not requested a lock nor do they have the authority to enfoce it. Then again their site says bootloader locks vary on devices based on their partners, not really sure there other then shiofting blame maybe
Drew
The only reason I can think of that an Internal Tech would say AT&T did not request the Lock is to cover their asses from a stupid lawsuit from AT&T considering how much money they have and how many different manufacturers exist. Other than that everything is pointing to it actually being AT&T who wants the phone locked considering the Rogers variation is unlocked. Also if you look at what phones are on that website that say can be unlocked None of the AT&T phones are on there even though they can be unlocked.
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The only reason I can think of that an Internal Tech would say AT&T did not request the Lock is to cover their asses from a stupid lawsuit from AT&T considering how much money they have and how many different manufacturers exist. Other than that everything is pointing to it actually being AT&T who wants the phone locked considering the Rogers variation is unlocked. Also if you look at what phones are on that website that say can be unlocked None of the AT&T phones are on there even though they can be unlocked.
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Its very confusing beacuse both ATT and HTC have stated that neither of them have requested a bootloader lock and that it would be released "later"
I could see ATT requesting lockes however everyother device that is currently available LG, Samsung and ZTE all have unlocked bootloaders. So its very confusing that they would request locks on only 1 of their 10 Android devices.
TBH i have no idea, both both companies are saying the bootloader will be unlocked "later"
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Something inside of me thinks that everyone will come out of the woodwork when perma root is achieved. Is that wishful think or...?
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Something inside of me thinks that everyone will come out of the woodwork when perma root is achieved. Is that wishful think or...?
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Permanent root will likely come from boot loader unlock.
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I think the forum is slow for a couple of reasons:
1. Like others have stated, there is only so much you can do without permanent root.
2. The phone just WORKS! I purchased $50 worth of apps on my old Atrix just to get it to do what Sense and HTC's implementation of Gingerbread does.
... Also, the phone is new and few accessories.
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I think the forum is slow for a couple of reasons:
1. Like others have stated, there is only so much you can do without permanent root.
2. The phone just WORKS! I purchased $50 worth of apps on my old Atrix just to get it to do what Sense and HTC's implementation of Gingerbread does.
... Also, the phone is new and few accessories.
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I totally agree, I unlocked the bootloader and got the temp root but now I don't know why I would need either of that. The only thing I did was removed some bloatware from system (not that I needed to do it). Everything till now seems to be perfect just works flawlessly or is broken that rooting won't fix.
I don't think there is is any ROM with sense 3.5 and 2.3.5 which can ported etc....I would rather wait for ICS and I don't think any one would work on porting it for this device yet any ways ,,,
the only things I am looking to get out of root (other than some custom ROMs) are getting mobile hotspot working and to a lesser extent TiBu.
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the only things I am looking to get out of root (other than some custom ROMs) are getting mobile hotspot working and to a lesser extent TiBu.
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+1
At the end of the day, I blame ATT and HTC haha!
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the only things I am looking to get out of root (other than some custom ROMs) are getting mobile hotspot working and to a lesser extent TiBu.
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Mobile hot spot works great if you have the proper plan, just fyi.
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mobile hot spot works great if you have the proper plan, just fyi.
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lol lol lol
If you're looking for something to ask motorola that will make our phones better, is possible for them to do and is almost somewhat expected (I keep thinking about how they say they're striving to work with the rom development community ...) feel free to post your thoughts for motorola here. An unlocked bootloader would allow us to run a custom kernel on our phones, I imagine CM9 would be up within days of motorola offering a bootloader unlock solution!!
Excellent point! I think begging for an early upgrade is silly, but asking for an unlocked bootloader would make our phones that much better. I would rather have a D3 with lots of Dev support, than a locked down D4. I came from a droid Incredible and the Dev support was great, and it breathed life into a phone that was somewhat dated.
Dear Moto, please unlock the bootloader.
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I imagine CM9 would be up within days of motorola offering a bootloader unlock solution!!
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Running CM9 now... only real issues are Camera, B key not working on keyboard, and the data being somewhat flaky for people, although it works fine once you get it going. Just be patient, we have great devs and don't really need an unlock. It would be nice though.
Motorola is okay with unlocking the bootloader from what I've heard but Verizon doesn't want it. From locked bootloaders to forced bloatware to removing Google Wallet from the Nexus, its clear that Verizon just loves to screw with Android. When are they going to learn the most people only want to use your network, we could care less about anything you have to offer.
I would sign that petition
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I'd be happy with an unlocked bootloader. This phone has the power to run ICS. Even if they never give us ICS, make it easy to make on our own...cause we sure as hell will.
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Motorola is okay with unlocking the bootloader from what I've heard but Verizon doesn't want it. From locked bootloaders to forced bloatware to removing Google Wallet from the Nexus, its clear that Verizon just loves to screw with Android. When are they going to learn the most people only want to use your network, we could care less about anything you have to offer.
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idk y Verizon would let samsung unlock bootloaders and not motorola. Nexus is unlockable. Google Wallet is blocked becasue Verizon (+partners) spent $100Million (or something ridic) in a very similar banking product.
I was referencing a story where Verizon removed the option to unlock the bootloader on the Razr.
http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/24/mo...oader-tool-for-droid-razr-verizon-removes-it/
maybe we should start a petition to verizon to get a unlockable to all of there phones because its more and more on verizon then the companys, HTC listen, Moto said they would be nothing from Verizon
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idk y Verizon would let samsung unlock bootloaders and not motorola. Nexus is unlockable.
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Since it is a development phone for the new OS, I think that the Nexus *must* be unlockable. It's the same reason why the Xoom is unlockable - it was the reference device for Honeycomb. So, if the next Nexus phone is Motorola, and it's on Verizon, it should also be unlockable.
Google Wallet is blocked becasue Verizon (+partners) spent $100Million (or something ridic) in a very similar banking product.
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Maybe, or perhaps it was because of this?: Google Wallet stores too much unencrypted data in a rooted device--report
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Maybe, or perhaps it was because of this?: Google Wallet stores too much unencrypted data in a rooted device--report
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I wonder if they would consider that when they disallow rooting in the first place. More likely a play to insure that phone's stay locked to their network with their software. I can also see it from a support perspective but with custom roms available you change your first support step to "restore the original software, does it work now" and continue like normal from there.
Hi,
Now that there is a real possibility that motorola unlock the droid 3 bootloader, will it be possible to flash a modified radio that will bypass Verizon's subsidy lock? this would solve the simlock problem for all of us stuck with locked phones not responding to normal unlock codes available online.
If I'm correct this has already been done on the atrix?
What do you think? if it's possible we could gather up a task force to do the job.
A true bootloader unlock from Motorola? Where did you hear about this?
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Its been all over the web. (although the only phone on the list is Sprint's Photon Q which was already announced as unlockable)
BUT
1. If you think Moto will unlock the bootloader so you can run ICS or JB on your D3 rather than buy a new phone......
or
2. If you think VZW would allow Moto to unlock the bootloader (if you're in the US) so you can run ICS or JB on your D3 rather than buy a new phone.....
you, my friend, are
sorry, but that's the cold hard truth.
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Its been all over the web. (although the only phone on the list is Sprint's Photon Q which was already announced as unlockable)
BUT
1. If you think Moto will unlock the bootloader so you can run ICS or JB on your D3 rather than buy a new phone......
or
2. If you think VZW would allow Moto to unlock the bootloader (if you're in the US) so you can run ICS or JB on your D3 rather than buy a new phone.....
you, my friend, are
sorry, but that's the cold hard truth.
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Actually I'm a bit , nonetheless I'm really hoping that it will be possible to unlock my Droid3.
I live outside the US and none of the subsidy codes I bought over the web worked. *
running ICS/JB on this phone is only a matter of tie, whether the BL gets unlocked or not, thanks to Hashcode's et al. efforts.
What I hope will happen if/when the BL gets unlocked is the possibilty to run custom/patched radio that will bypass Verizon's *%$£d subsidy lock.
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A true bootloader unlock from Motorola? Where did you hear about this?
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Yes motodev has released a bootloader unlock tool. The only devices supported are photon q, razr dev edition (which was always unlockable) and the xoom. We are likely to see more devices going forward but i doubt any older devices will get support. As mentioned by someone else, why open up more options for us, when they can get us to buy a new device.
Honestly I don't know why they bother. Seems in the end many devices get their bootloader bypassed or cracked. Kecex is going to support a number of devices. The verizon sgs3 got cracked in a couple weeks. All they do is drive innovation in hacking.
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First, the bootloader has to be unlockable which the Droid 3's is not. Motorola would have to release an updated bootloader which they will not do.
The site also states that August 2012 and future devices will be able to access this feature/function. Nothing for current devices.
droid 3 xt883 chıne rom unlocked ?
Never with Droid 3. As fas as I understand Droid 3 is the most replaced phone in the history of Verizon. They have lotsa problems with stock-flashed handsets and it's going to be total disaster if they officially allow custom ROMs.
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Never with Droid 3. As fas as I understand Droid 3 is the most replaced phone in the history of Verizon. They have lotsa problems with stock-flashed handsets and it's going to be total disaster if they officially allow custom ROMs.
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Why? Just make it so unlocking voids warranty - so you can't send it back
Even without an official bootloader unlock I am quite sure there will be a bypass shortly.
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Even without an official bootloader unlock I am quite sure there will be a bypass shortly.
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There already is. Kernel is still alpha but it's usable.
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There already is. Kernel is still alpha but it's usable.
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We're talking about sim unlocking, not custom kernels, do you think once the kexec is done it will allow custom basebands ?
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We're talking about sim unlocking, not custom kernels, do you think once the kexec is done it will allow custom basebands ?
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me my self i think it wood work. but i think they need so me keys for the droid 3 to get that working but it will help a lot of others that can not unlock with a unlock code to bypass it to get there phones working on at&t
Hi
I recently dropped my Droid 3 that had been unlocked by my ex boyfriend in water and was unable to save it. I do not believe I can do the process myself. I am wondering if there is any one close to the Springfield, IL area that can like meet me and help me or do it for me and I can pay them. I really loved that phone. I don't think I would be happy with a different one. Thanks
Also, wth would the difference be at this point if they would both retain moto x features lol. I believe that is what I'm doing especially at&t and they're bootloader locking stuff. Just not sure which version and which one comes out first.
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Also, wth would the difference be at this point if they would both retain moto x features lol. I believe that is what I'm doing especially at&t and they're bootloader locking stuff. Just not sure which version and which one comes out first.
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i might be waiting. I'll be considering the phone but am going to have to pay full price off contract. So if I'm going to do that, I might as well get the developer edition. However, I would really like to order the phone on opening day, so I'm hoping the Developer edition comes out same day.
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i might be waiting. I'll be considering the phone but am going to have to pay full price off contract. So if I'm going to do that, I might as well get the developer edition. However, I would really like to order the phone on opening day, so I'm hoping the Developer edition comes out same day.
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I hear you, same with me. I'd have to buy off contract either way and dont feel at&t needs more of my money. But you say developer edition which would most likely be on the Motorola website? What about the Google edition version that is rumored to come out? Aren't these the same companies, why make it so confusing lol.
It would be nice to have some idea of how long we have to wait......
I defently waiting. Want my unlocked bootloader...I dont want to wait to see if someone can unlock the regular bootloader. I am on Verizon...so I also need to pay full price to keep my unlimited data
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Price is what will decide it for me.
I am considering the purchase of a Developer Edition phone only because of the price of it. I am thinking it would be cheaper to purchase it from Google than it would be to buy it off contract from the carrier. But if it is the same price then I will just get it from my carrier. The colour designing of it isnt important to me.
News should come out in a few days about dev edition availability. I'm not getting the at&t one I don't think. I'm already hearing all the complaints about their annoying phone book software, and their locked BL.
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News should come out in a few days about dev edition availability. I'm not getting the at&t one I don't think. I'm already hearing all the complaints about their annoying phone book software, and their locked BL.
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The address book software doesn't get in the way. Usually it pops up on phones like the One, but on the X, I haven't seen it yet.
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I'm definitely waiting for a developer unlocked edition. Don't want carrier bloat and waiting for bootloader unlock and random issues.
I'll likely return mine that I bought at AT&T when a dev edition is out or news of one. I forget how much I HATE the carrier having more control over my device than me.
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Developer Edition
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Motorolas-own-website-outs-the-32GB-Motorola-Moto-X-Developer-Edition_id46737
I hope that White back is only a rumour and there will be an option of black back
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I hope that White back is only a rumour and there will be an option of black back
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Yeah...if not I'm just gonna go with the Motomaker version and unlock the bootloader another way which probably has been done already.
So what's the chance of Verizon getting an unlocked developers edition?
What was the last phone Verizon allowed unlocked out of the box on their network?
compatibility with theoretical future unlocked stock?
Question: Let's say in the future some brilliant dev-type finds a root & bootloader unlock exploit for the non-dev edition of the VZW Moto X. Would ROMs developed for that phone (the rooted/unlocked VZW stock Moto X) be compatible with the Dev Edition? Does anyone know how this has worked with previous Dev Editions?
I'm just wondering in the situation described above, whether the people who shelled out for Dev Edition early on could find themselves with a much smaller mod/dev community to draw upon than people who wait around for a potential (but maybe never coming) future unlock of the device. Would the two VZW versions of the Moto X (Dev and stock) be essentially the same device aside from bootloader, and therefore have compatibility?
I know this is all conjecture until we see an actual Dev Edition on VZW (which might not happen) but I'd be interested in thoughts.
Roms would work on both developer and regular version. One plus would be 32 GB . im hoping Verizon will get developer with the extra storage.
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Well with current rumors pegging it at around $500+, I sense this phone failing commercially.
It's just too much money.
I get Moto wants this to be their "iPhone" but if you wanted to massively pull the rug out from under their feet, you would stick this thing's non contract price around the rumors for the 5C price, which is $300-$400.
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So my phone recently upgraded itself to .49 without me telling it to. I'd here any way to downgrade it to .44? I was planning to unlock it but hadn't gotten around to it. Thanks!
No.
NO.the .49 already update the bootloader
FrostedWaffle said:
So my phone recently upgraded itself to .49 without me telling it to. I'd here any way to downgrade it to .44? I was planning to unlock it but hadn't gotten around to it. Thanks!
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Unfortunately friend I'm on the same boat. I've looked everywhere and everyone says its not possible as of right now. I'm sure there will be a solution in the future We just gotta wait it out.
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blackra1n said:
Unfortunately friend I'm on the same boat. I've looked everywhere and everyone says its not possible as of right now. I'm sure there will be a solution in the future We just gotta wait it out.
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Hate to be pessimistic, but don't be so sure. Took a year to find the first exploit when Sunshine devs were actively looking. Best bet is to sell it on Swappa and buy another that does not have the "49" OTA trojan horse Verizon update.
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Hate to be pessimistic, but don't be so sure. Took a year to find the first exploit when Sunshine devs were actively looking. Best bet is to sell it on Swappa and buy another that does not have the "49" OTA trojan horse Verizon update.
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Oh well, I guess I'll just wait on MM from Motorola then. Gonna go with a Nexus next time lol. Thanks for helping me to learn not to trust you Verizon!
FrostedWaffle said:
Oh well, I guess I'll just wait on MM from Motorola then. Gonna go with a Nexus next time lol. Thanks for helping me to learn not to trust you Verizon!
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Right. Verizon could easily allow Motorola to unlock the bootloaders. Verizon is the one who demands Motorola lock it down and keep it locked down.
The identical Quark to the Droid Turbo, the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250, same FCC ID, same Verizon bands, etc. runs just fine on Verizon with an activated Verizon SIM card and has an easily unlockable bootloader via the Motorola website. It's sort of the "dev" version of the Droid Turbo XT1254, but only comes in 32GB. No 64GB available.
But it's identical in every way. People have even flashed Droid Turbo stock ROM over it.
Point is, Verizon is to blame. They want to own and control your phone, no matter what.