Droid 3 Bootloader unlock and subsidy lock bypass - Motorola Droid 3

Hi,
Now that there is a real possibility that motorola unlock the droid 3 bootloader, will it be possible to flash a modified radio that will bypass Verizon's subsidy lock? this would solve the simlock problem for all of us stuck with locked phones not responding to normal unlock codes available online.
If I'm correct this has already been done on the atrix?
What do you think? if it's possible we could gather up a task force to do the job.

A true bootloader unlock from Motorola? Where did you hear about this?
Sent from my HTC Raider

Its been all over the web. (although the only phone on the list is Sprint's Photon Q which was already announced as unlockable)
BUT
1. If you think Moto will unlock the bootloader so you can run ICS or JB on your D3 rather than buy a new phone......
or
2. If you think VZW would allow Moto to unlock the bootloader (if you're in the US) so you can run ICS or JB on your D3 rather than buy a new phone.....
you, my friend, are
sorry, but that's the cold hard truth.

vbhokiefan said:
Its been all over the web. (although the only phone on the list is Sprint's Photon Q which was already announced as unlockable)
BUT
1. If you think Moto will unlock the bootloader so you can run ICS or JB on your D3 rather than buy a new phone......
or
2. If you think VZW would allow Moto to unlock the bootloader (if you're in the US) so you can run ICS or JB on your D3 rather than buy a new phone.....
you, my friend, are
sorry, but that's the cold hard truth.
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Actually I'm a bit , nonetheless I'm really hoping that it will be possible to unlock my Droid3.
I live outside the US and none of the subsidy codes I bought over the web worked. *
running ICS/JB on this phone is only a matter of tie, whether the BL gets unlocked or not, thanks to Hashcode's et al. efforts.
What I hope will happen if/when the BL gets unlocked is the possibilty to run custom/patched radio that will bypass Verizon's *%$£d subsidy lock.

LaZiODROID said:
A true bootloader unlock from Motorola? Where did you hear about this?
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Yes motodev has released a bootloader unlock tool. The only devices supported are photon q, razr dev edition (which was always unlockable) and the xoom. We are likely to see more devices going forward but i doubt any older devices will get support. As mentioned by someone else, why open up more options for us, when they can get us to buy a new device.
Honestly I don't know why they bother. Seems in the end many devices get their bootloader bypassed or cracked. Kecex is going to support a number of devices. The verizon sgs3 got cracked in a couple weeks. All they do is drive innovation in hacking.
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First, the bootloader has to be unlockable which the Droid 3's is not. Motorola would have to release an updated bootloader which they will not do.
The site also states that August 2012 and future devices will be able to access this feature/function. Nothing for current devices.

droid 3 xt883 chıne rom unlocked ?

Never with Droid 3. As fas as I understand Droid 3 is the most replaced phone in the history of Verizon. They have lotsa problems with stock-flashed handsets and it's going to be total disaster if they officially allow custom ROMs.
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Theri0n said:
Never with Droid 3. As fas as I understand Droid 3 is the most replaced phone in the history of Verizon. They have lotsa problems with stock-flashed handsets and it's going to be total disaster if they officially allow custom ROMs.
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Why? Just make it so unlocking voids warranty - so you can't send it back

Even without an official bootloader unlock I am quite sure there will be a bypass shortly.
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xantanion said:
Even without an official bootloader unlock I am quite sure there will be a bypass shortly.
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There already is. Kernel is still alpha but it's usable.
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Endoroid said:
There already is. Kernel is still alpha but it's usable.
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We're talking about sim unlocking, not custom kernels, do you think once the kexec is done it will allow custom basebands ?
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kamazepine said:
We're talking about sim unlocking, not custom kernels, do you think once the kexec is done it will allow custom basebands ?
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me my self i think it wood work. but i think they need so me keys for the droid 3 to get that working but it will help a lot of others that can not unlock with a unlock code to bypass it to get there phones working on at&t

Hi
I recently dropped my Droid 3 that had been unlocked by my ex boyfriend in water and was unable to save it. I do not believe I can do the process myself. I am wondering if there is any one close to the Springfield, IL area that can like meet me and help me or do it for me and I can pay them. I really loved that phone. I don't think I would be happy with a different one. Thanks

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Unlock verizon droid 3 by flashing to use sim

i BEEN TRYING TO UNLOCK MY DROID 3 BY CODE AND IT HAS BEEN IMPOSSIBLE. I AM OUTSIDE THE USE AND EVEN WHEN I INPUT THE CODE THAT VERIZON GAVE ME I HAVE NO SUCCESS. THEY TOLD ME THAT THE PHONE HAS TO BE ACTIVATED ON VERIZON FOR IT TO UNLOCK. IS IT TRUE. IS THERE ANOTHER WAY TO UNLOCK IT.
I HAVE RDS LITE I FLASH MY PHONE TO THE ORIGINAL VERIZON AGAIN BUT IT DID NOT WORK. HELP PLEASE
1) Drop the caps. It's against the rules and is downright annoying.
2) Maybe can you call Verizon and see if they can manually program it, even if it is a dead number? Or have you even tried calling tech support?
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Maybe U have wrong code. I have Droid 3 from Verizon. I live in Poland and I don't have a problem to unlock and using in 3G with my polish simcard. And I didn't have to activate phone in verizon...
Verizon tends to alter unlock codes on their global phones lately - not all but some I guess as some people unlock fine, others have issues. Same was with Droid 2 Global last year. All phones from 'first wave' weren't issue to unlock, but afterwards it got hit or miss..
There is no 'hardware unlock' available so far AFAIK. And might not show unless boot loader gets unlocked (since then we can thinker with baseband).
leobg said:
Verizon tends to alter unlock codes on their global phones lately - not all but some I guess as some people unlock fine, others have issues. Same was with Droid 2 Global last year. All phones from 'first wave' weren't issue to unlock, but afterwards it got hit or miss..
There is no 'hardware unlock' available so far AFAIK. And might not show unless boot loader gets unlocked (since then we can thinker with baseband).
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WHAT YOU MEAN, WHY U NO TELL ME WHAT I WANT RIGHT NOW PLEAZE!
What he is saying is the unlock code will only work while connected to an account in the US.
Droid 1 Rooted (ChevyNo1 0.9MV Kernel, LGB2.6)
Droid 3 Rooted (Stock Kernel, Custom lite De-bloat)
I was able to unlock my D3 without activating it with Verizon, and I was geographically in Canada when I entered the code.
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I live in Germany and had no problem unlocking the Droid 3 with the Code bought from swiftunlock.
I think it is a question of "how new" the phone was. From what I learned by reading all those threads on many forums (and I think it is correct, since mine was unlocked easily as well):
- if you buy a phone that was never ever connected to verizon, the unlock works and you don't need to activate it with VZW (the activation request just disappears and you can use it like any non VZW model, except for the USSD restrictions and so on).
- if you get a phone that somebody already activated for you, you will most likely be busted. VZW does change the unlock keys OTA.
The best idea seems to be: make sure to get your phone from somebody who assures you that it's never been activated or connected to VZW via 2G/3G.
Mine was never activated and i am in Colombia even called Verizon and a rep gave me an unlock code but it did not work. it has been almost one month.
I unlocked fine and I flashed mine to cricket....
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how did you unlocked your. maybe someone with a Verizon account willing to help me. I will pay 40 bucks by Paypal.
Rotkaeqpchen said:
I live in Germany and had no problem unlocking the Droid 3 with the Code bought from swiftunlock.
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l tryed unlock code your bought site swiftunlock but not trusted site is very easy l dont know but l sent money with paypal and waiting code for droid 3verizon
how mand day inside take code ?
any resolution?
Hi I live in mexico, and I wonder if this method helps me to use it on my cell company, which is telcel.

Forum is Dead?

Im a first time andriod phone buyer and am starting to wonder if I bought the wrong one....
Is it just me or is this forum dead compared to the Skyrocket. Will there be an unlock for the boot loader?
Needless to say, I like the phone just wish we had more support...or will that come with time?
With a locked bootloader we are in habit of a jam however HTC had stated they will release the unlock, hopfuly Revolutionary and the likes are looking into exploits to get soff and boot
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drewdatrip said:
With a locked bootloader we are in habit of a jam however HTC had stated they will release the unlock, hopfuly Revolutionary and the likes are looking into exploits to get soff and boot
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Can you post a link to where HTC has said they will release an unlock?
just google around the fourm, Except AT&T all HTC Vivid variations are already supporting unlocked bootloader (Through htcdev.com)
If you are AT&T , bootloader is locked at the request of AT&T and I know you can call AT&T and complain because in USA google pushed for a law that would make all device unlocked on the new 700Mhz spectrum.
akcooper9 said:
Can you post a link to where HTC has said they will release an unlock?
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zombie.raised said:
just google around the fourm, Except AT&T all HTC Vivid variations are already supporting unlocked bootloader (Through htcdev.com)
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-announced-new-bootloader-policy
"There has been overwhelmingly [sic] customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience."
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If you are AT&T , bootloader is locked at the request of AT&T and I know you can call AT&T and complain because in USA google pushed for a law that would make all device unlocked on the new 700Mhz spectrum.
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HTC internal tech told me that ATT has not requested a lock nor do they have the authority to enfoce it. Then again their site says bootloader locks vary on devices based on their partners, not really sure there other then shiofting blame maybe
Drew
The only reason I can think of that an Internal Tech would say AT&T did not request the Lock is to cover their asses from a stupid lawsuit from AT&T considering how much money they have and how many different manufacturers exist. Other than that everything is pointing to it actually being AT&T who wants the phone locked considering the Rogers variation is unlocked. Also if you look at what phones are on that website that say can be unlocked None of the AT&T phones are on there even though they can be unlocked.
malickie said:
The only reason I can think of that an Internal Tech would say AT&T did not request the Lock is to cover their asses from a stupid lawsuit from AT&T considering how much money they have and how many different manufacturers exist. Other than that everything is pointing to it actually being AT&T who wants the phone locked considering the Rogers variation is unlocked. Also if you look at what phones are on that website that say can be unlocked None of the AT&T phones are on there even though they can be unlocked.
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Its very confusing beacuse both ATT and HTC have stated that neither of them have requested a bootloader lock and that it would be released "later"
I could see ATT requesting lockes however everyother device that is currently available LG, Samsung and ZTE all have unlocked bootloaders. So its very confusing that they would request locks on only 1 of their 10 Android devices.
TBH i have no idea, both both companies are saying the bootloader will be unlocked "later"
Drew
Something inside of me thinks that everyone will come out of the woodwork when perma root is achieved. Is that wishful think or...?
slapshot30 said:
Something inside of me thinks that everyone will come out of the woodwork when perma root is achieved. Is that wishful think or...?
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Permanent root will likely come from boot loader unlock.
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I think the forum is slow for a couple of reasons:
1. Like others have stated, there is only so much you can do without permanent root.
2. The phone just WORKS! I purchased $50 worth of apps on my old Atrix just to get it to do what Sense and HTC's implementation of Gingerbread does.
... Also, the phone is new and few accessories.
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willgill said:
I think the forum is slow for a couple of reasons:
1. Like others have stated, there is only so much you can do without permanent root.
2. The phone just WORKS! I purchased $50 worth of apps on my old Atrix just to get it to do what Sense and HTC's implementation of Gingerbread does.
... Also, the phone is new and few accessories.
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I totally agree, I unlocked the bootloader and got the temp root but now I don't know why I would need either of that. The only thing I did was removed some bloatware from system (not that I needed to do it). Everything till now seems to be perfect just works flawlessly or is broken that rooting won't fix.
I don't think there is is any ROM with sense 3.5 and 2.3.5 which can ported etc....I would rather wait for ICS and I don't think any one would work on porting it for this device yet any ways ,,,
the only things I am looking to get out of root (other than some custom ROMs) are getting mobile hotspot working and to a lesser extent TiBu.
argolfermd said:
the only things I am looking to get out of root (other than some custom ROMs) are getting mobile hotspot working and to a lesser extent TiBu.
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+1
At the end of the day, I blame ATT and HTC haha!
argolfermd said:
the only things I am looking to get out of root (other than some custom ROMs) are getting mobile hotspot working and to a lesser extent TiBu.
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Mobile hot spot works great if you have the proper plan, just fyi.
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drewdatrip said:
mobile hot spot works great if you have the proper plan, just fyi.
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lol lol lol

unlocking bootloaders

should we start to again try to pressure verizon/motorola to unlock the bootloaders of their phones aka this phone and really only the motorola phones on verizon.
sr20s13 said:
should we start to again try to pressure verizon/motorola to unlock the bootloaders of their phones aka this phone and really only the motorola phones on verizon.
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There are only so many petitions we can sign before it just becomes a repetitive idle threat. I doubt that enough consumers would outright boycott Motorola to get them to change either. They've already promised they would do this by the end of the year (2 days) and still nothing. At this point I'm just hoping that Google's "open software" approach will rub off.
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HTC could S-OFF ......
sr20s13 said:
should we start to again try to pressure verizon/motorola to unlock the bootloaders of their phones aka this phone and really only the motorola phones on verizon.
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On one hand. Verizon will not allow it.
The 2nd hand google is buying Motorola so why should Motorola unlock the bootloaders for google.
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If we can get an unlocked bootloader for one Droid 3 (say xt862), will it work for any version? Milestone 3, Milestone 3 4G, etc...
---------- Post added at 12:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:38 PM ----------
In case someone wants to support this: forums.motorola(dot)com/posts/dc9579a9c0
Sorry for the link, but I'm not allowed to write it in another way (new user).
oostah said:
On one hand. Verizon will not allow it.
The 2nd hand google is buying Motorola so why should Motorola unlock the bootloaders for google.
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That just isn't true! If this was really Verizon not allowing it, then why can you unlock HTC phones? The Samsung Galaxy Nexus is also unlockable. My point is that Verizon may not allow the phone to be sold/activated while unlocked, but they can't stop unlock solutions from being available. This is entirely on Motorola.
Google is clearly an advocate of open/unlocked software. The Android platform and every Nexus phone is testament to this. Motorola being bought by Google does make it a significant probability that they too will have to adopt this same approach to open/unlocked software. With Google as the owner of Motorola, they would certainly have fingers pointing at them should Motorola continue with locked down phones.
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Well, it is 2012.
*tries to flash a custom boot image*
Hmmph...still locked.
Lol damn Adam.h.ogle and I thought we were so close, maybe the trick is to all flash at the same time.
Last time I read about the Google take over it was currently postponed and TBA.
-smc
I've bought Droid 3 from Ebay and it was engineering sample, in boot I have "AP Fastboot Flash Mode 0A.12", can it be helpful for developers?
from my point of view
the locking bootloaders is a marketing issue. (only)
carriers do not want to allow easy roaming of tham clients to other carriers, that is the all story
mishkapp said:
I've bought Droid 3 from Ebay and it was engineering sample, in boot I have "AP Fastboot Flash Mode 0A.12", can it be helpful for developers?
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Send a PM to Hashcode and ask him.
mikedyk43 said:
Send a PM to Hashcode and ask him.
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i have been looking around and see this guy XDA member the2dcour with his hands in pudding AKA bootloader unlock for the atrix, photon, Bionic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255265
I have been looking into how to get a hold of the2dcour to see if he can help. or what we need to do to help him unlock the bootloader.
mishkapp said:
I've bought Droid 3 from Ebay and it was engineering sample, in boot I have "AP Fastboot Flash Mode 0A.12", can it be helpful for developers?
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Have you sent a PM to Hashcode? I'm really curious about this.

Atrix HD Developer Edition Coming soon

We’re happy to announce that the MOTOROLA ATRIX™ HD will be available in a Developer Edition and also be a supported device in the Bootloader Unlock program. It has the same features and specs as the regular MOTOROLA ATRIX HD, but allows the infinite customization possibilities offered by an unlockable bootloader. Unlocking a bootloader isn’t for everyone, but for some, it’s a must-have.
http://www.motorola.com/blog/2012/11/06/announcing-the-motorola-atrix-hd-developer-edition/
Now that's some bull****.
I don't understand why they won't do it like HTC and let anyone opt in to unlocking their bootloader. I doubt there's any real changes. Just certain IMEIs or serial numbers are able to use the unlock.
When Moto shafted the Atrix users and reneged on updating the Atrix I should've stayed away. I don't understand how they sit down in a room and come up with these ideas and think the customer will not mind.
Moto makes good phones, but they are morons
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Based on this announcement, can we ever expect an unlocked bootloader for our already purchased atrixes?
If not I might have to ditch the phone, which is really a shame.
It's still there. I tried to comment similarly though and it wouldn't let me.
Sent from my Atrix HD MAXX 4.1
This is the deciding factor that's pushing me to pick up a Nexus 4. :|
Are you effing kidding me???
SirHoover2010 said:
Moto makes good phones, but they are morons
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AT&T refuses to allow the AT&T branded ATRIX HD to be in the unlock program... Motorola is now releasing an unlockable version and going past AT&T. And somehow Motorola are the morons?
ripin150 said:
This is the deciding factor that's pushing me to pick up a Nexus 4. :|
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+100,000,000
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Yea but they could do a lot of things to help us out. Such as leak a jb that unlock bootloader, have "something go wrong" where the bootloader tool now works for us
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Yup, we've all been screwed, now we need to find a way to unlock the bootloader without moto's help. also, the only difference between that and the bell edition is that stupid at&t logo at the bottom of it... this is complete crap and such a waste for a phone with so much potential that is now just going to fade away to oblivion.
SirHoover2010 said:
Yea but they could do a lot of things to help us out. Such as leak a jb that unlock bootloader, have "something go wrong" where the bootloader tool now works for us
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They are respecting AT&T's wishes. They told everyone beforehand the ATRIX HD would not be unlockable.... expecting otherwise is lunacy.
mattlgroff said:
They are respecting AT&T's wishes. They told everyone beforehand the ATRIX HD would not be unlockable.... expecting otherwise is lunacy.
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I dont expect an unlocked bootloader. I just don't like having the option for an unlocked bootloader coming out a month and a half after I got the phone. Also I spoke with moto and asked about the retail version being unlocked and they said "I can not answer that question, as I do not have permission discussing that" so I have never heard motorola say that the Atrix hd will NEVER be unlocked. They may have but I have not heard it. Either way I like this phone, but they should have said MUCH earlier that they plan a dev edition so everyone that wanted the dev edition could wait. Not get stuck with the retail version.
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They are respecting AT&T's wishes. They told everyone beforehand the ATRIX HD would not be unlockable.... expecting otherwise is lunacy.
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That isn't what they said. They said it is locked, but "our goal is still to provide a way to unlock the bootloaders on our devices to those who wish to do so, more details to come."
mandrsn1 said:
That isn't what they said. They said it is locked, but "our goal is still to provide a way to unlock the bootloaders on our devices to those who wish to do so, more details to come."
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I remember reading that several places. It's a shame the Moto can't do right by their customers and support us, rather than bowing to ATT. I understand they need ATT to carry their phones, but there needs to be an option for us. That is what is suppose to be what is great about android, the unlimited possibilities. A dev edition phone is helpful to those that don't already have the phone. I for one will not sell this phone then spend 250-350 more for the dev edition, I'll buy a sammy phone. I believe that since we are the customers that spend OUR money on their product, we should get more support. I for one will not buy another moto device if I don't see a huge improvement in the way the support their customers.
They need to "leak" an update on one of those servers that unlocks the BL.
rquinn19 said:
They need to "leak" an update on one of those servers that unlocks the BL.
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My original idea...Easy to do and nothing ATT can do about it
SirHoover2010 said:
My original idea...Easy to do and nothing ATT can do about it
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Isn't that what happened with the OG atrix?
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Isn't that what happened with the OG atrix?
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Correct.

[Q] Please I need urgent help Droid phone GSM

hello every body
first thanks for your great efforts , I am seeking your help again plzzzzz.....
I had droid 3 and stolen from 2 days ago I live in Egypt with GSM network , My Droid 3 unlocked was working perfect here) , now i will get a new mobile , I guess it will be Droid 4 as extend for my beloved stolen phone
When I was looking for it on eBay and Amazon I became so confused , as I found
1-Version Droid 4 locked
2-Unlocked Droid 4
3-Unlocked Droid 4 international use
Now my question is which one will work with my local GSM ? please note that a big price diffident between unlocked and locked one , the locked one is more more cheaper , if I buy the locked can I locked it and works perfect with GSM or have I buy unlocked one ?
Thanks in advance
AFAIK they are all the same. If it has ICS it is unlocked for international use. If it still has Gingerbread, I think you can still upgrade to ICS using WiFi.
StevePritchard said:
AFAIK they are all the same. If it has ICS it is unlocked for international use. If it still has Gingerbread, I think you can still upgrade to ICS using WiFi.
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So no need to buy unlocked high price one ? i will buy Version Droid 4 and update it into ICS
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorola-Dr...1004039173?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item27d0a29005
is that what you meant ?
sorry for being annoying but i have to be sure before buy it
ivanol84 said:
So no need to buy unlocked high price one ? i will buy Version Droid 4 and update it into ICS
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorola-Dr...1004039173?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item27d0a29005
is that what you meant ?
sorry for being annoying but i have to be sure before buy it
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Thanks again.
StevePritchard said:
AFAIK they are all the same. If it has ICS it is unlocked for international use. If it still has Gingerbread, I think you can still upgrade to ICS using WiFi.
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So no need to buy unlocked high price one ? i will buy Version Droid 4 and update it into ICS
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorola-Dr...1004039173?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item27d0a29005
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNLOCKED-NE...0884590003?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item35c1cb41b3
So, the first one i have to get right ?
sorry for being annoying but i have to be sure before buy it
ivanol84 said:
So no need to buy unlocked high price one ? i will buy Version Droid 4 and update it into ICS
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorola-Dr...1004039173?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item27d0a29005
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNLOCKED-NE...0884590003?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item35c1cb41b3
So, the first one i have to get right ?
sorry for being annoying but i have to be sure before buy it
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Well for one. If u haven't noticed the first one is only bid. On used! The second one is new and buy it now. And they are both the same as stated befor ics is unlocked
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thanks agian for your replay , for the first link its not used one its new , i know its in bid but here is another one buy now
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-V...0991335425?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item257bd4d401
so why its about 150$ price differant with this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNLOCKED-NE...0884590003?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item35c1cb41b3
ivanol84 said:
thanks agian for your replay , for the first link its not used one its new , i know its in bid but here is another one buy now
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-V...0991335425?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item257bd4d401
so why its about 150$ price differant with this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNLOCKED-NE...0884590003?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item35c1cb41b3
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There's no international shipping on your first option. If I were buying one today, I'd probably go for one of these:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOTOROLA-...0878227538?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item43b9b18452
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorola-...0887620684?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item4d0a70684c
Cheers,
Steve.
dont worry about international shipping as a friend of mine in USA and will come to Egypt after 1 week , so my question is still here why this big differenced in price between my 2 prevoius llinks
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNLOCKED-NE...0884590003?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item35c1cb41b3
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-V...0991335425?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item257bd4d401
The only lock on the Droid 4 is that you cannot use it on American GSM carriers, i.e. T-Mobile USA and AT&T. This lock is irrelevant to you as you are in Egypt, unless you intend to travel to the USA and use this phone.
The unlocked one is being sold by Devices Now. It is possible that they have found somewhat to unlock it for US GSM, though if they have they aren't sharing it with these forums. They are a pretty good seller as they were one of the first to offer this phone pre-flashed to ICS for people wanting to use it on GSM.
That said, if you are happy enough with flashing the phone to ICS yourself, and don't intend to use it in the USA, go ahead and get the cheaper one.
thanks a lot Lum_Uk , but is the flashing is just updating the phone to ICS ? I mean when i bought the cheaper one just i need to update it via wire wireless or i have to do something else ?
ivanol84 said:
thanks a lot Lum_Uk , but is the flashing is just updating the phone to ICS ? I mean when i bought the cheaper one just i need to update it via wire wireless or i have to do something else ?
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To flash ICS all u need is the phone and a wire to connect it to your computer (and possibly a sd card).
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Yes just updating it to ICS, though many people have found that the OTA update doesn't always work, so have to flash it the hard way
Full instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766479
Just a little update for everybody here. Just because a Droid 4 has Ice Cream Sandwich or Jellybean doesn't mean it's already unlocked for GSM or international use. Having an Ice Cream Sandwich or Jellybean ROM means that the phone is ABLE to be unlocked from the carrier. The phone DOES NOT come unlocked with each ROM. You have to call Verizon to get an unlock code or pay for an unlock code through one of the measly online websites. I have much experience with this as I was in the Army for a while and took my US Android phone to Iraq and Kuwait with me. You have to put an unlock code into the device for it to be unlocked. Therefore...I would purchase a Droid 4 that has been unlocked previously. You can tell when you put a different SIM card into the phone,it will ask you for the unlock code or tell you the device is unlocked. Just wanted to clarify that for everybody.
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Just a little update for everybody here. Just because a Droid 4 has Ice Cream Sandwich or Jellybean doesn't mean it's already unlocked for GSM or international use. Having an Ice Cream Sandwich or Jellybean ROM means that the phone is ABLE to be unlocked from the carrier. The phone DOES NOT come unlocked with each ROM. You have to call Verizon to get an unlock code or pay for an unlock code through one of the measly online websites
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Sorry but this is complete rubbish. It may be true for other phones, but the Verizon Droid 4, once flashed to ICS or JB, will work internationally without any codes, custom ROMs or hacking.
My Droid 4 has never even seen the Verizon network, and I don't have an account with Verizon and no way to contact them to get a code. It just works.
Plenty of others in the same situation on this forum, loads of us are using it on GSM without having to get Verizon's permission.
^^ Truth! There is no SIM lock on any VZW Motorola LTE capable device.
The last Verizon Motorola global device to have a SIM lock was the Droid3, which was a CDMA/EVDO/GSM/UMTS global device.
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Just a little update for everybody here. Just because a Droid 4 has Ice Cream Sandwich or Jellybean doesn't mean it's already unlocked for GSM or international use. Having an Ice Cream Sandwich or Jellybean ROM means that the phone is ABLE to be unlocked from the carrier. The phone DOES NOT come unlocked with each ROM. You have to call Verizon to get an unlock code or pay for an unlock code through one of the measly online websites. I have much experience with this as I was in the Army for a while and took my US Android phone to Iraq and Kuwait with me. You have to put an unlock code into the device for it to be unlocked. Therefore...I would purchase a Droid 4 that has been unlocked previously. You can tell when you put a different SIM card into the phone,it will ask you for the unlock code or tell you the device is unlocked. Just wanted to clarify that for everybody.
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Lum_UK said:
Sorry but this is complete rubbish. It may be true for other phones, but the Verizon Droid 4, once flashed to ICS or JB, will work internationally without any codes, custom ROMs or hacking.
My Droid 4 has never even seen the Verizon network, and I don't have an account with Verizon and no way to contact them to get a code. It just works.
Plenty of others in the same situation on this forum, loads of us are using it on GSM without having to get Verizon's permission.
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Hahaha schooled! Not trying to be mean but its generally smart to know what your talking about before u spew bullish out of your mouth and look like an idiot. As lum stated droid 4 isn't locked to Verizon or any carrier. Through build prop tweaks it does work very nicely at that.
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Should probably add, since they are in Ohio, that GSM is locked out for US carriers. This isn't locked out with an unlock code but at the firmware level. So far nobody has broken that and unlock codes don't exist. There's a big sticky at the top of the forum with the current progress in dealing with this problem.

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