should we start to again try to pressure verizon/motorola to unlock the bootloaders of their phones aka this phone and really only the motorola phones on verizon.
sr20s13 said:
should we start to again try to pressure verizon/motorola to unlock the bootloaders of their phones aka this phone and really only the motorola phones on verizon.
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There are only so many petitions we can sign before it just becomes a repetitive idle threat. I doubt that enough consumers would outright boycott Motorola to get them to change either. They've already promised they would do this by the end of the year (2 days) and still nothing. At this point I'm just hoping that Google's "open software" approach will rub off.
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HTC could S-OFF ......
sr20s13 said:
should we start to again try to pressure verizon/motorola to unlock the bootloaders of their phones aka this phone and really only the motorola phones on verizon.
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On one hand. Verizon will not allow it.
The 2nd hand google is buying Motorola so why should Motorola unlock the bootloaders for google.
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If we can get an unlocked bootloader for one Droid 3 (say xt862), will it work for any version? Milestone 3, Milestone 3 4G, etc...
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In case someone wants to support this: forums.motorola(dot)com/posts/dc9579a9c0
Sorry for the link, but I'm not allowed to write it in another way (new user).
oostah said:
On one hand. Verizon will not allow it.
The 2nd hand google is buying Motorola so why should Motorola unlock the bootloaders for google.
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That just isn't true! If this was really Verizon not allowing it, then why can you unlock HTC phones? The Samsung Galaxy Nexus is also unlockable. My point is that Verizon may not allow the phone to be sold/activated while unlocked, but they can't stop unlock solutions from being available. This is entirely on Motorola.
Google is clearly an advocate of open/unlocked software. The Android platform and every Nexus phone is testament to this. Motorola being bought by Google does make it a significant probability that they too will have to adopt this same approach to open/unlocked software. With Google as the owner of Motorola, they would certainly have fingers pointing at them should Motorola continue with locked down phones.
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Well, it is 2012.
*tries to flash a custom boot image*
Hmmph...still locked.
Lol damn Adam.h.ogle and I thought we were so close, maybe the trick is to all flash at the same time.
Last time I read about the Google take over it was currently postponed and TBA.
-smc
I've bought Droid 3 from Ebay and it was engineering sample, in boot I have "AP Fastboot Flash Mode 0A.12", can it be helpful for developers?
from my point of view
the locking bootloaders is a marketing issue. (only)
carriers do not want to allow easy roaming of tham clients to other carriers, that is the all story
mishkapp said:
I've bought Droid 3 from Ebay and it was engineering sample, in boot I have "AP Fastboot Flash Mode 0A.12", can it be helpful for developers?
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Send a PM to Hashcode and ask him.
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Send a PM to Hashcode and ask him.
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i have been looking around and see this guy XDA member the2dcour with his hands in pudding AKA bootloader unlock for the atrix, photon, Bionic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255265
I have been looking into how to get a hold of the2dcour to see if he can help. or what we need to do to help him unlock the bootloader.
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I've bought Droid 3 from Ebay and it was engineering sample, in boot I have "AP Fastboot Flash Mode 0A.12", can it be helpful for developers?
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Have you sent a PM to Hashcode? I'm really curious about this.
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Hi,
Now that there is a real possibility that motorola unlock the droid 3 bootloader, will it be possible to flash a modified radio that will bypass Verizon's subsidy lock? this would solve the simlock problem for all of us stuck with locked phones not responding to normal unlock codes available online.
If I'm correct this has already been done on the atrix?
What do you think? if it's possible we could gather up a task force to do the job.
A true bootloader unlock from Motorola? Where did you hear about this?
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Its been all over the web. (although the only phone on the list is Sprint's Photon Q which was already announced as unlockable)
BUT
1. If you think Moto will unlock the bootloader so you can run ICS or JB on your D3 rather than buy a new phone......
or
2. If you think VZW would allow Moto to unlock the bootloader (if you're in the US) so you can run ICS or JB on your D3 rather than buy a new phone.....
you, my friend, are
sorry, but that's the cold hard truth.
vbhokiefan said:
Its been all over the web. (although the only phone on the list is Sprint's Photon Q which was already announced as unlockable)
BUT
1. If you think Moto will unlock the bootloader so you can run ICS or JB on your D3 rather than buy a new phone......
or
2. If you think VZW would allow Moto to unlock the bootloader (if you're in the US) so you can run ICS or JB on your D3 rather than buy a new phone.....
you, my friend, are
sorry, but that's the cold hard truth.
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Actually I'm a bit , nonetheless I'm really hoping that it will be possible to unlock my Droid3.
I live outside the US and none of the subsidy codes I bought over the web worked. *
running ICS/JB on this phone is only a matter of tie, whether the BL gets unlocked or not, thanks to Hashcode's et al. efforts.
What I hope will happen if/when the BL gets unlocked is the possibilty to run custom/patched radio that will bypass Verizon's *%$£d subsidy lock.
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A true bootloader unlock from Motorola? Where did you hear about this?
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Yes motodev has released a bootloader unlock tool. The only devices supported are photon q, razr dev edition (which was always unlockable) and the xoom. We are likely to see more devices going forward but i doubt any older devices will get support. As mentioned by someone else, why open up more options for us, when they can get us to buy a new device.
Honestly I don't know why they bother. Seems in the end many devices get their bootloader bypassed or cracked. Kecex is going to support a number of devices. The verizon sgs3 got cracked in a couple weeks. All they do is drive innovation in hacking.
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First, the bootloader has to be unlockable which the Droid 3's is not. Motorola would have to release an updated bootloader which they will not do.
The site also states that August 2012 and future devices will be able to access this feature/function. Nothing for current devices.
droid 3 xt883 chıne rom unlocked ?
Never with Droid 3. As fas as I understand Droid 3 is the most replaced phone in the history of Verizon. They have lotsa problems with stock-flashed handsets and it's going to be total disaster if they officially allow custom ROMs.
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Never with Droid 3. As fas as I understand Droid 3 is the most replaced phone in the history of Verizon. They have lotsa problems with stock-flashed handsets and it's going to be total disaster if they officially allow custom ROMs.
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Why? Just make it so unlocking voids warranty - so you can't send it back
Even without an official bootloader unlock I am quite sure there will be a bypass shortly.
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xantanion said:
Even without an official bootloader unlock I am quite sure there will be a bypass shortly.
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There already is. Kernel is still alpha but it's usable.
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Endoroid said:
There already is. Kernel is still alpha but it's usable.
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We're talking about sim unlocking, not custom kernels, do you think once the kexec is done it will allow custom basebands ?
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We're talking about sim unlocking, not custom kernels, do you think once the kexec is done it will allow custom basebands ?
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me my self i think it wood work. but i think they need so me keys for the droid 3 to get that working but it will help a lot of others that can not unlock with a unlock code to bypass it to get there phones working on at&t
Hi
I recently dropped my Droid 3 that had been unlocked by my ex boyfriend in water and was unable to save it. I do not believe I can do the process myself. I am wondering if there is any one close to the Springfield, IL area that can like meet me and help me or do it for me and I can pay them. I really loved that phone. I don't think I would be happy with a different one. Thanks
We’re happy to announce that the MOTOROLA ATRIX™ HD will be available in a Developer Edition and also be a supported device in the Bootloader Unlock program. It has the same features and specs as the regular MOTOROLA ATRIX HD, but allows the infinite customization possibilities offered by an unlockable bootloader. Unlocking a bootloader isn’t for everyone, but for some, it’s a must-have.
http://www.motorola.com/blog/2012/11/06/announcing-the-motorola-atrix-hd-developer-edition/
Now that's some bull****.
I don't understand why they won't do it like HTC and let anyone opt in to unlocking their bootloader. I doubt there's any real changes. Just certain IMEIs or serial numbers are able to use the unlock.
When Moto shafted the Atrix users and reneged on updating the Atrix I should've stayed away. I don't understand how they sit down in a room and come up with these ideas and think the customer will not mind.
Moto makes good phones, but they are morons
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Based on this announcement, can we ever expect an unlocked bootloader for our already purchased atrixes?
If not I might have to ditch the phone, which is really a shame.
It's still there. I tried to comment similarly though and it wouldn't let me.
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This is the deciding factor that's pushing me to pick up a Nexus 4. :|
Are you effing kidding me???
SirHoover2010 said:
Moto makes good phones, but they are morons
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AT&T refuses to allow the AT&T branded ATRIX HD to be in the unlock program... Motorola is now releasing an unlockable version and going past AT&T. And somehow Motorola are the morons?
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This is the deciding factor that's pushing me to pick up a Nexus 4. :|
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+100,000,000
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Yea but they could do a lot of things to help us out. Such as leak a jb that unlock bootloader, have "something go wrong" where the bootloader tool now works for us
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Yup, we've all been screwed, now we need to find a way to unlock the bootloader without moto's help. also, the only difference between that and the bell edition is that stupid at&t logo at the bottom of it... this is complete crap and such a waste for a phone with so much potential that is now just going to fade away to oblivion.
SirHoover2010 said:
Yea but they could do a lot of things to help us out. Such as leak a jb that unlock bootloader, have "something go wrong" where the bootloader tool now works for us
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They are respecting AT&T's wishes. They told everyone beforehand the ATRIX HD would not be unlockable.... expecting otherwise is lunacy.
mattlgroff said:
They are respecting AT&T's wishes. They told everyone beforehand the ATRIX HD would not be unlockable.... expecting otherwise is lunacy.
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I dont expect an unlocked bootloader. I just don't like having the option for an unlocked bootloader coming out a month and a half after I got the phone. Also I spoke with moto and asked about the retail version being unlocked and they said "I can not answer that question, as I do not have permission discussing that" so I have never heard motorola say that the Atrix hd will NEVER be unlocked. They may have but I have not heard it. Either way I like this phone, but they should have said MUCH earlier that they plan a dev edition so everyone that wanted the dev edition could wait. Not get stuck with the retail version.
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They are respecting AT&T's wishes. They told everyone beforehand the ATRIX HD would not be unlockable.... expecting otherwise is lunacy.
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That isn't what they said. They said it is locked, but "our goal is still to provide a way to unlock the bootloaders on our devices to those who wish to do so, more details to come."
mandrsn1 said:
That isn't what they said. They said it is locked, but "our goal is still to provide a way to unlock the bootloaders on our devices to those who wish to do so, more details to come."
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I remember reading that several places. It's a shame the Moto can't do right by their customers and support us, rather than bowing to ATT. I understand they need ATT to carry their phones, but there needs to be an option for us. That is what is suppose to be what is great about android, the unlimited possibilities. A dev edition phone is helpful to those that don't already have the phone. I for one will not sell this phone then spend 250-350 more for the dev edition, I'll buy a sammy phone. I believe that since we are the customers that spend OUR money on their product, we should get more support. I for one will not buy another moto device if I don't see a huge improvement in the way the support their customers.
They need to "leak" an update on one of those servers that unlocks the BL.
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They need to "leak" an update on one of those servers that unlocks the BL.
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My original idea...Easy to do and nothing ATT can do about it
SirHoover2010 said:
My original idea...Easy to do and nothing ATT can do about it
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Isn't that what happened with the OG atrix?
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Isn't that what happened with the OG atrix?
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Correct.
Will we ever be able to unlock the bootloader for the non-dev edition on Verizon? I realize this question has likely been asked before, but was unable to find a thread. Please no hate.
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Will we ever be able to unlock the bootloader for the non-dev edition on Verizon? I realize this question has likely been asked before, but was unable to find a thread. Please no hate.
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Doubtful since the Dev Eds are so readily available, there isn't much incentive for people to try.
And Motorola is notorious for having hard to crack bootloaders.
The answer is no.
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Will we ever be able to unlock the bootloader for the non-dev edition on Verizon? I realize this question has likely been asked before, but was unable to find a thread. Please no hate.
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No reason to believe so. They have the Dev editions and to be frank, all of the companies are getting better with locking it up, or at least Motorola and Samsung are. Too much developer jargon to use but be unfortunately assured that unless someone wants to leak important code and risk their current job and all future employment in cell phone development, we won't see it.
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No reason to believe so. They have the Dev editions and to be frank, all of the companies are getting better with locking it up, or at least Motorola and Samsung are. Too much developer jargon to use but be unfortunately assured that unless someone wants to leak important code and risk their current job and all future employment in cell phone development, we won't see it.
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That's very sad to hear, thanks.
Very Sad because that will be the death of XDA as well!
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Very Sad because that will be the death of XDA as well!
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Lol
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Maybe you can buy a code to unlock ur bootloader. I know somebody is selling this code.
No such code exists for the VZW and ATT retail versions.
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Will we ever be able to unlock the bootloader for the non-dev edition on Verizon? I realize this question has likely been asked before, but was unable to find a thread. Please no hate.
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It was said by some that the eFuse on the non-developer Verizon X is blown, thus prevent its bootloader from being unlocked. I'm not sure how true this is.
One thing is certain, as has been said.. the Retail and Moto Maker X for Verizon can not have their bootloader unlocked. Like past moto phones, the bootloader has proved to be secure enough that no one has figured a way how.
If you want to be able to unlock the boot loader on your X, and you are a Verizon customer, your only choice is to by a Developer Edition from Moto's web site.
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iscott said:
Maybe you can buy a code to unlock ur bootloader. I know somebody is selling this code.
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I've seen SIM Unlock codes being sold, but not bootloader unlock codes. If you know of someone selling them, post a link, or information. i'm sure there are plenty of VZW users who would pay, especially since 1. there was a bounty thread, and 2. the current root and write protect disable methods for locked bootloader users don't work on 4.4.2, so they are stuck.
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I've seen SIM Unlock codes being sold, but not bootloader unlock codes. If you know of someone selling them, post a link, or information. i'm sure there are plenty of VZW users who would pay, especially since 1. there was a bounty thread, and 2. the current root and write protect disable methods for locked bootloader users don't work on 4.4.2, so they are stuck.
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The seller is in China. The selling page is in Chinese. I don't know where he got the unlock codes. If you are interested, you can contact him. You will get the unlock code two days later after you provided him your IMEI. I don't recommend you do this because that will void your device's warranty.
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The seller is in China. The selling page is in Chinese. I don't know where he got the unlock codes. If you are interested, you can contact him. You will get the unlock code two days later after you provided him your IMEI. I don't recommend you do this because that will void your device's warranty.
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I don't need it. I have a developer edition. So I unlocked without voiding my warranty.
I was asking because there are many who got a moto maker one instead, and for Verizon they can't unlock them even via Moto's web site. Have you used that site before? $40 doesn't sound too unreasonable for those who might need/want it.
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The seller is in China. The selling page is in Chinese. I don't know where he got the unlock codes. If you are interested, you can contact him. You will get the unlock code two days later after you provided him your IMEI. I don't recommend you do this because that will void your device's warranty.
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This reminds me of this:
https://plus.google.com/108504253507350757415/posts/2aJKKwoNZwK
https://plus.google.com/108504253507350757415/posts/BAu58ukTsQU
I wonder if it's the same person or if any of it is true...
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I don't need it. I have a developer edition. So I unlocked without voiding my warranty.
I was asking because there are many who got a moto maker one instead, and for Verizon they can't unlock them even via Moto's web site. Have you used that site before? $40 doesn't sound too unreasonable for those who might need/want it.
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This reminds me of this:
https://plus.google.com/108504253507350757415/posts/2aJKKwoNZwK
https://plus.google.com/108504253507350757415/posts/BAu58ukTsQU
I wonder if it's the same person or if any of it is true...
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That Chinese site picture is a EU bootloader (which is unlockable), so I wouldn't trust it, but that is for someone else to decide. As far as Brenden Gonzalez posts on G+ go, the bootloader was 4.4 so it might not work on 4.4.2 bootloader, and his post has never come true either.
Code:
Brenden GonzalezFeb 9, 2014
No this is real i gave it to a Moto x dev youll see it soon hes making a easy to use tolls out of it
I was curious if anyone tried the Chinese bootloader unlock since I would defiantly get rid of my warranty in exchange for getting my bootloader unlocked.
Cant those of us with a locked bootloader simply Safestrap 4.4.2 the same way we safestrap 4.4 right now? I am running 4.2.2 bootloader, with 4.4 safestrap atm. I believe that all we are waiting for is the firmware to drop so we can extract the 4.4.2 kernels and baseband, which can be flashed manually because they are digitally signed.
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Have you used that site before? $40 doesn't sound too unreasonable for those who might need/want it.
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It is true. Many people have unlocked their devices using the codes bought from that site.
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That Chinese site picture is a EU bootloader (which is unlockable), so I wouldn't trust it, but that is for someone else to decide. As far as Brenden Gonzalez posts on G+ go, the bootloader was 4.4 so it might not work on 4.4.2 bootloader, and his post has never come true either.
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I've asked the seller. He said he got these codes from his friend, who works in Moto. Is it legal?
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It is true. Many people have unlocked their devices using the codes bought from that site.
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So far, no one is giving info on this except you. No offence, but as far as I'm concerned, you might be the seller (or someone affiliated to him) trying to lure users to steal their money...
I might be wrong, but just saying... I mean you're saying "Many people...", where are they? Why hasn't anyone posted that they successfully bought a code and unlocked yet?
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So far, no one is giving info on this except you. No offence, but as far as I'm concerned, you might be the seller (or someone affiliated to him) trying to lure users to steal their money...
I might be wrong, but just saying... I mean you're saying "Many people...", where are they? Why hasn't anyone posted that they successfully bought a code and unlocked yet?
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You're totally wrong. I'm not the seller and I'm not affiliated to the seller. I'm just giving info that there is an illegal way to unlock VZW bootloader.
You hasn't seen related threads because you don't visit Chinese forum. Here is a thread.
I DON'T recommend you do this because it will void your device's warranty and it is illegal.
iscott said:
You're totally wrong. I'm not the seller and I'm not affiliated to the seller. I'm just giving info that there is an illegal way to unlock VZW bootloader.
You hasn't seen related threads because you don't visit Chinese forum. Here is a thread.
I DON'T recommend you do this because it will void your device's warranty and it is illegal.
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I said I might be wrong, all I'm saying is that until trusted people start confirming that this is legit after trying it themselves, I wouldn't believe that it is legit...
Hello, i have a Motorola Droid turbo stock, with ultimate release android 5.1.. I noto can unlock bootloader whit sunshine apk.. I try can forum officiale Motorola whit code bootloader and not found compatibility.. Please help me to unlock bootloader, i can flash cm13
SylarScareCrow said:
Hello, i have a Motorola Droid turbo stock, with ultimate release android 5.1.. I
noto can unlock bootloader whit sunshine apk..
I try can forum officiale Motorola whit code bootloader and not found compatibility..
Please help me to unlock bootloader, i can flash cm13
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What is "ultimate release 5.1"?
Which factory image version? If you took the 5.1-SU4TL-49 update you are out of luck.
Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=66869729
jcase said:
Just a PSA, after the new SU4TL-49 5.1 update SunShine will be unable to unlock the bootloader.
If you are already unlocked, you are fine (dont relock it!).
If you take the 5.1-SU4TL-49 or 6.0 beta update prior to unlocking, then you are so out of luck.
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People stop taking the OTA update! It's only to prevent you from unlocking your bootloader! Verizon is evil, don't you understand?
Of all the Quarks, only the Verizon one (Droid Turbo XT1254) cannot be unlocked from the Motorola website. Because Verizon demands Motorola keep the bootloader locked down.
All the other Quarks (U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250, International Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx XT1225) can easily be unlocked with a code from Motorola.
So, when an exploit is found (Sunshine) to forcibly unlock the bootloader, of course any Verizon update AFTER that will be to prevent that exploit from working. Duh. Because Verizon is evil.
Yes have a su4tl-49 ((
ChazzMatt said:
What is "ultimate release 5.1"?
Which factory image version? If you took the 5.1-SU4TL-49 update you are out of luck.
Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=66869729
People stop taking the OTA update! It's only to prevent you from unlocking your bootloader! Verizon is evil, don't you understand?
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Yes have a su4tl-49 ((
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Very sorry. Nothing you can do. Thank Verizon.
Is impossibile a sunshine.apk update for this problemi in future?
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Very sorry. Nothing you can do. Thank Verizon.
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Is impossibile a sunshine.apk update for this problemi in future?
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@jcase, whom I quoted above is the Sunshine guru. He says no. (Edit: See below. He says maybe. But the last one took a year to find.)
The Sunshine exploit worked on SU4TL-44 Stock. If you go past that, you are out of luck. The recent OTA update closes that loophole and you cannot revert firmware.
It took a year to even find the first exploit and it was unique to Snapdragon 805. The Verizon Droid Turbo is a late 2014 phone. Even if there was another exploit, it takes time and money to find them, bricking phones in the process. This is why the first exploit was packaged into $25 fee, to compensate the devs and fund their research.
This phone isn't even being made anymore, so investing any more time and money to find another exploit for people who take OTA updates without investigating is probably not going to happen, for a phone that will soon be 2 years old. There are many other newer phones that can get the attention.
People on Verizon who REALLY want a "Droid Turbo" with a bootloader that can easily be unlocked will buy the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250. Same device as the Droid Turbo, same bands, same hardware, same FCC ID. And bootloader can be unlocked via Motorola website.
IF you don't have Verizon and don't need CDMA bands (or LTE band 13), then the XT1225 is even better. More HSPA bands, more LTE bands. LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17. And bootloader can be unlocked via Motorola website.
They are all Quarks with the same hardware. The XT1254/XT1250 even share the same radio bands, same FCC ID. The XT1225 has different radio bands.
SylarScareCrow said:
Is impossibile a sunshine.apk update for this problemi in future?
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Answer is maybe. We wont be investing in another round of research for the Droid Turbo itself, if we have some research on another device that crosses over with the Turbo then maybe. A small maybe.
You're all just front runners of a arrogant and pointless waste of time... Let's investigate this and fund this for $25 so the dev can get rich on something he stole from someone else and takes the money and credit. But he'll yea, let's keep cheating people out of money and point the finger at noobs and other individuals that don't spend pointless and limitless time on browsing lines of code, just to say I know how to flash this and exploit that. Listen,......who gives a **** buddy. Another thing, don't belittle someone that doesn't have the same knowledge and asks the "annoying" questions..... We people of the society have other things we are doing, besides having a phone in one ear and a keyboard typing in commands in abd fastboot crammed up our ass.... Thanks..."Fin"
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You're all just front runners of a arrogant and pointless waste of time... Let's investigate this and fund this for $25 so the dev can get rich on something he stole from someone else and takes the money and credit. But he'll yea, let's keep cheating people out of money and point the finger at noobs and other individuals that don't spend pointless and limitless time on browsing lines of code, just to say I know how to flash this and exploit that. Listen,......who gives a **** buddy. Another thing, don't belittle someone that doesn't have the same knowledge and asks the "annoying" questions..... We people of the society have other things we are doing, besides having a phone in one ear and a keyboard typing in commands in abd fastboot crammed up our ass.... Thanks..."Fin"
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Actually the blame all rests on Verizon for demanding Motorola lock the bootloader. Other Quarks -- even one IDENTICAL to the Droid Turbo sold under another model name -- are not locked down. Verizon is the villain.
Credit goes to any devs who create a workaround. But it's not always possible. The exploit found took a year of research, bricked phones, etc to find. Nobody "stole" anything. The exploit was published publicly. You can write an installer yourself if you have the skill, and give it away for FREE. The fact that no one else has done so means there must not be that much demand.
But if you took the recent Verizon SU4TL-49 OTA update, you are out of luck. Simple as that. Verizon is to blame -- but so are the users who blindly take an update from an evil carrier who locks down bootloaders. The dev even created an XDA thread specifically warning people NOT to take the update! Don't know what else could be done except for owners to take some responsibility and exercise common sense?
If you are on a carrier locked down bootloader phone, and you are wanting to escape from that prison, you should know not to take any carrier OTA updates until you investigate WHY the update was published -- in this case to specifically shut down that exploit.
Of course anyone who buys this phone KNOWS it's locked down and shouldn't expect a bootloader unlock in the first place. Anyone who buys it, KNOWS it's crippled. They need to buy another Quark, like the XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx -- which is the exact same device as the Droid Turbo XT1254 with Verizon bands and everything. Droid Turbo owners were just very lucky a dev created an exploit that could unlock the bootloader for one version of firmware.
Wonder why you created this new user name to post this one response? Already an XDA member and don't want to burn your regular user name? Or just a lurker who took the OTA update, huh? Blame Verizon and yourself, not the messengers. You bought the phone, knowing it was locked down. It's Verizon. That's what they do.
So, there was a brief window of escape, starting last November on firmware SU4TL-44 . The Sunshine devs gave you that window of freedom and somehow you are mad at them?
The locked down Droid Turbo anyone bought is STILL the locked down Droid Turbo they bought. It still functions just like it was bought. No one has harmed their phone. The only difference is if you take the SU4TL-49 OTA update it will remain locked down -- whereas before that OTA thanks to Sunshine you could unlock it, install custom recovery, root, custom ROMs. If that's important to you, then yeah, you do some research first here on XDA or even just using Google. (I never buy a phone I can't unlock the bootloader and root.)
But if you don't do research first, then obviously unlocking the bootloader is not that important to you? And the phone functions just like when you bought it.
Well folks I hate to say it but all I did was call Motorola, told them I have a droid turbo and in the developer settings there is a key to unlock OEM bootloader but does nothing. They asked for my email and sent me the complete link as to unlock the bootloader. BAM! I'M UNLOCKED!!!
butler911 said:
Well folks I hate to say it but all I did was call Motorola, told them I have a droid turbo and in the developer settings there is a key to unlock OEM bootloader but does nothing. They asked for my email and sent me the complete link as to unlock the bootloader. BAM! I'M UNLOCKED!!!
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Wait , what? Can you share little more info on this?? Which phone exactly you have?
EDIT: Tried this right away, of course it didn't work . They told me that it's not part of unlockable bootloader program, but to check often because they very often add new phones to the program.
Also , on the link they gave me, I don't see Moto Maxx either https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215
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Well folks I hate to say it but all I did was call Motorola, told them I have a droid turbo and in the developer settings there is a key to unlock OEM bootloader but does nothing. They asked for my email and sent me the complete link as to unlock the bootloader. BAM! I'M UNLOCKED!!!
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how to set phone in developer setting? maybe not all the phone can get the unlock code.
EjđiSixo said:
Also , on the link they gave me, I don't see Moto Maxx either https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215
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Doesn't show up for Moto Maxx, but it works anyway. It did show up in previous version of website. And owners recently are still getting their XT1225/XT1250 unlocked, as evidenced by questions in my Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo guide in the other forum. So, it still works for those phones.
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Well folks I hate to say it but all I did was call Motorola, told them I have a droid turbo and in the developer settings there is a key to unlock OEM bootloader but does nothing. They asked for my email and sent me the complete link as to unlock the bootloader. BAM! I'M UNLOCKED!!!
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Pictures or it didn't happen.
Show us bootloader status picture.
That will prove everything you just said, that you actually have a Droid Turbo and the bootloader is indeed unlocked. Extra credit if you post the communication from Motorola.
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Doesn't show up for Moto Maxx, but it works anyway. It did show up in previous version of website. And owners recently are still getting their XT1225/XT1250 unlocked, as evidenced by questions in my guide in the other forum. So, it still works for those phones.
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Pictures or it didn't happen.
Show us bootloader status picture.
That will prove everything you just said, that you actually have a Droid Turbo and the bootloader is indeed unlocked. Extra credit if you post the communication.
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Probably had moto maxx or noob assistent gave code without knowing they can although I don't think they can do that, system would probably block it.
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Well folks I hate to say it but all I did was call Motorola, told them I have a droid turbo and in the developer settings there is a key to unlock OEM bootloader but does nothing. They asked for my email and sent me the complete link as to unlock the bootloader. BAM! I'M UNLOCKED!!!
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Probably had moto maxx or noob assistent gave code without knowing they can although I don't think they can do that, system would probably block it.
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I'm very skeptical of someone with just two posts. Trolls do abound, you know. I prefer more proof than someone just typing a few taunting words into a forum. I would be curious if he was already on Marshmallow when this alleged bootloader unlock code was given.
About a year ago, someone posted how he had "flashed a Nexus 6 ROM" over his Droid Turbo and it "worked perfectly" and encouraged everyone else to do the same. 2014 Shamu and Quark were both released by Motorola at the same time, share a lot of the same specs -- and well known Motorola had a 5.2" Shamu variant in testing as late as mid-August 2014. But Google chose the 6" WHALE to be the only gen6 Nexus phone. Quark in many ways is the sibling to Shamu (perhaps the 5.2" was even re-purposed for Quark?), very similar to how the 2013 LG Nexus 5 and LG G2 were developed at the same time on parallel path by LG. BUT, you can't flash Nexus 6 (Shamu) ROMs over Quark, so matter how much you might envy Nexus development.
The only way you can do that is to disable some safety measures, and yes if you are silly enough you can brick your phone. Basically he had bricked his phone and was mad -- and misery loves company. The thread was quickly locked and everyone was told NOT to even try it.
My point is you can't believe everything someone types unless they offer some kind of proof.
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I'm very skeptical of someone with just two posts. Trolls do abound, you know. I prefer more proof than someone just typing a few taunting words into a forum. I would be curious if he was already on Marshmallow when this alleged bootloader unlock code was given.
About a year ago, someone posted how he had "flashed a Nexus 6 ROM" over his Droid Turbo and it "worked perfectly" and encouraged everyone else to do the same. 2014 Shamu and Quark were both released by Motorola at the same time, share a lot of the same specs -- and well known Motorola had a 5.2" Shamu variant in testing as late as mid-August 2014. But Google chose the 6" WHALE to be the only gen6 Nexus phone. Quark in many ways is the sibling to Shamu (perhaps the 5.2" was even re-purposed for Quark?), very similar to how the 2013 LG Nexus 5 and LG G2 were developed at the same time on parallel path by LG. BUT, you can't flash Nexus 6 (Shamu) ROMs over Quark, so matter how much you might envy Nexus development.
The only way you can do that is to disable some safety measures, and yes if you are silly enough you can brick your phone. Basically he had bricked his phone and was mad -- and misery loves company. The thread was quickly locked and everyone was told NOT to even try it.
My point is you can't believe everything someone types unless they offer some kind of proof.
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Your very correct and I do want to say that this is an excellent site with very true and capable designers! Trust me I'm absolutely no troll, I hate them, I was just simply putting my experience out there for others to try. I meant no disrespect or meant to step on anyone's toes. My apologies
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Your very correct and I do want to say that this is an excellent site with very true and capable designers! Trust me I'm absolutely no troll, I hate them, I was just simply putting my experience out there for others to try. I meant no disrespect or meant to step on anyone's toes. My apologies
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You're not stepping on anyone's toes. If true, then somehow you gamed the system in a way no one has been able to do. Congratulations on your good fortune!
Just asking for a couple of screenshots for proof, maybe the Motorola communication? Maybe someone else can do the same?
Were you on stock Lollipop or Marshmallow?
So my phone recently upgraded itself to .49 without me telling it to. I'd here any way to downgrade it to .44? I was planning to unlock it but hadn't gotten around to it. Thanks!
No.
NO.the .49 already update the bootloader
FrostedWaffle said:
So my phone recently upgraded itself to .49 without me telling it to. I'd here any way to downgrade it to .44? I was planning to unlock it but hadn't gotten around to it. Thanks!
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Unfortunately friend I'm on the same boat. I've looked everywhere and everyone says its not possible as of right now. I'm sure there will be a solution in the future We just gotta wait it out.
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Unfortunately friend I'm on the same boat. I've looked everywhere and everyone says its not possible as of right now. I'm sure there will be a solution in the future We just gotta wait it out.
Sent from my XT1254 using XDA-Developers mobile app
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Hate to be pessimistic, but don't be so sure. Took a year to find the first exploit when Sunshine devs were actively looking. Best bet is to sell it on Swappa and buy another that does not have the "49" OTA trojan horse Verizon update.
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Hate to be pessimistic, but don't be so sure. Took a year to find the first exploit when Sunshine devs were actively looking. Best bet is to sell it on Swappa and buy another that does not have the "49" OTA trojan horse Verizon update.
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Oh well, I guess I'll just wait on MM from Motorola then. Gonna go with a Nexus next time lol. Thanks for helping me to learn not to trust you Verizon!
FrostedWaffle said:
Oh well, I guess I'll just wait on MM from Motorola then. Gonna go with a Nexus next time lol. Thanks for helping me to learn not to trust you Verizon!
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Right. Verizon could easily allow Motorola to unlock the bootloaders. Verizon is the one who demands Motorola lock it down and keep it locked down.
The identical Quark to the Droid Turbo, the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250, same FCC ID, same Verizon bands, etc. runs just fine on Verizon with an activated Verizon SIM card and has an easily unlockable bootloader via the Motorola website. It's sort of the "dev" version of the Droid Turbo XT1254, but only comes in 32GB. No 64GB available.
But it's identical in every way. People have even flashed Droid Turbo stock ROM over it.
Point is, Verizon is to blame. They want to own and control your phone, no matter what.