Tomorrow I'm going to buy a Verizon Moto X, non-Developer Edition and I know that you can root without unlocking the bootloader. I just want to have wifi tethering, TiB, Greenify, etc. and don't care so much about custom ROMs for the Moto X.
My questions:
1. What is the definitive method for achieving root from a brand new stock non-DE Verizon Moto X? I believe it will be 4.2.2 when I get it, if that helps.
2. Can I accept OTA updates/camera updates from the Play Store after achieving root? If not, is there a way to stay rooted through updates (maybe just denying OTA updates if they are known to break root and wait for another fix?)
Thanks guys! Excited to start using my new Moto X!
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Tomorrow I'm going to buy a Verizon Moto X, non-Developer Edition and I know that you can root without unlocking the bootloader. I just want to have wifi tethering, TiB, Greenify, etc. and don't care so much about custom ROMs for the Moto X.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2449534
This for tethering after SlapMyMoto.
I need help and that's an understatement. It comes down to this... I'm super confused as what I need to do to flashing a custom recovery and ROM. I'm on a Sprint Moto X running 4.4.
Someone just tell me what to do if you can. This downgrading and what not is confusing me when I see people saying not to worry about it.
Thanks in advance.
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Since the downgrading and what not is confusing you, I'm not sure what you know and what you don't so let me start at the beginning...
When you purchase the Sprint, T-Mobile, AT&T, Verizon and other carrier editions, they come with their bootloaders locked. You can only flash/install roms and parts of ROMs which are signed by Motorola. This means you have to use some tricks and exploits to root your phone and disable the phone's Write Protection. This is why you see the SlapMyMoto, and MotoWPNoMo, and the like. These processes involve downgrading the rom on your phone so you can take advantage of "flaws" which are present in the older rom and exploited to gain root and disable write protection.
With ROM updates, Motorola can/will close the holes and flaws, meaning new exploits are needed to gain root and such. With 4.4.2, Moto closed the loop hole that allowed downgrading the ROM version on your phone, so you can't use the older tricks to gain root and disable write protection. So if you have 4.4.2 on your X, you are stuck.
If you purchased a developer edition, you can unlock your bootloader, and do so without voiding your phone's warranty. This allows you to flash things/roms/parts that are not signed by Motorola. You can flash a custom recovery for example. Unlocking the bootloader also disables the Write Protection. So you can easily root by flashing a custom recovery, booting to it, and installing SuperSU to root. And you can even flash a custom rom if you want, and if there is one available for your X. This works no matter what ROM version you flash. (this still works for 4.4.2)
Thankfully, some carriers allow you to unlock your Non-Developer Edition X's bootloader. Sprint and T-Mobile allow this. However some, like Verizon and ATT do not. Motorola has a web site setup where you can request the unlock code for your phone. However if your carrier allows this, and you have a Non-Developer edition phone, your warranty is voided when you Accept the terms and REQUEST the code. BUT this does give you the exact same flexibilty to root and disable write protection as a Developer Edition does, just with a voided warranty.
So when you read these threads, there will be info for LOCKED Bootloader and UNLOCKED bootloader.
Ok, that being said.. Since you have a Sprint X, if you are ok voiding your warranty, the best thing to do is get the unlock code from Moto's web site, unlock your bootloader, and use the Root Process for developer edition Moto X. (there is a thread for it) If you already have 4.4.2 on your phone, this is the only way to root and disable write protection.
If you do not want to void your warranty & unlock your bootloader, then you have no choice but to follow the SlapMyMoto thread to root. it does involve downgrading your rom,etc. BUT do not even think about taking the 4.4.2 update if you want to keep root and write protection disabled. And this doesn't work if you already have 4.4.2 on your phone.
Jon.StatiK said:
I need help and that's an understatement. It comes down to this... I'm super confused as what I need to do to flashing a custom recovery and ROM. I'm on a Sprint Moto X running 4.4.
Someone just tell me what to do if you can. This downgrading and what not is confusing me when I see people saying not to worry about it.
Thanks in advance.
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The Sprint model has an unlockable bootloader so you wont need to follow the SpapMyMoto steps. That's only for those with a locked bootloader (although you could do it if you really wanted to).
I unlocked my US Cellular Moto X which is pretty much the exact same thing but without the same model number. So this is what I did:
Unlock the boatloader through the Motorola unlock program. This voids your warranty though.
Flash twrp
Flash supersu
And now your rooted!
Now that you've flashed a custom recovery, the only thing left to do on your list is flash the rom you want.
NOTE: This will only work of you have an unlockable boatloader in which case - you do. If you are able to request an unlock code through the program then just follow those steps and you'll be sweet. Just make sure you copy the code into a word document then remove the spaces first. I made the error of leaving the spaces in there and wondered why I couldn't request a code. Also the request button is at the very bottom of the page so just scroll to the bottom to find it once you input the code. A message will pop up if you forgot to remove the spaces.
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If I unlock the bootloader and go that route I'm open to flash any ROM I want right?
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Right. Thanks for the help!
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KidJoe said:
Since the downgrading and what not is confusing you, I'm not sure what you know and what you don't so let me start at the beginning...
When you purchase the Sprint, T-Mobile, AT&T, Verizon and other carrier editions, they come with their bootloaders locked. You can only flash/install roms and parts of ROMs which are signed by Motorola. This means you have to use some tricks and exploits to root your phone and disable the phone's Write Protection. This is why you see the SlapMyMoto, and MotoWPNoMo, and the like. These processes involve downgrading the rom on your phone so you can take advantage of "flaws" which are present in the older rom and exploited to gain root and disable write protection.
With ROM updates, Motorola can/will close the holes and flaws, meaning new exploits are needed to gain root and such. With 4.4.2, Moto closed the loop hole that allowed downgrading the ROM version on your phone, so you can't use the older tricks to gain root and disable write protection. So if you have 4.4.2 on your X, you are stuck.
If you purchased a developer edition, you can unlock your bootloader, and do so without voiding your phone's warranty. This allows you to flash things/roms/parts that are not signed by Motorola. You can flash a custom recovery for example. Unlocking the bootloader also disables the Write Protection. So you can easily root by flashing a custom recovery, booting to it, and installing SuperSU to root. And you can even flash a custom rom if you want, and if there is one available for your X. This works no matter what ROM version you flash. (this still works for 4.4.2)
Thankfully, some carriers allow you to unlock your Non-Developer Edition X's bootloader. Sprint and T-Mobile allow this. However some, like Verizon and ATT do not. Motorola has a web site setup where you can request the unlock code for your phone. However if your carrier allows this, and you have a Non-Developer edition phone, your warranty is voided when you Accept the terms and REQUEST the code. BUT this does give you the exact same flexibilty to root and disable write protection as a Developer Edition does, just with a voided warranty.
So when you read these threads, there will be info for LOCKED Bootloader and UNLOCKED bootloader.
Ok, that being said.. Since you have a Sprint X, if you are ok voiding your warranty, the best thing to do is get the unlock code from Moto's web site, unlock your bootloader, and use the Root Process for developer edition Moto X. (there is a thread for it) If you already have 4.4.2 on your phone, this is the only way to root and disable write protection.
If you do not want to void your warranty & unlock your bootloader, then you have no choice but to follow the SlapMyMoto thread to root. it does involve downgrading your rom,etc. BUT do not even think about taking the 4.4.2 update if you want to keep root and write protection disabled. And this doesn't work if you already have 4.4.2 on your phone.
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I gotta say @kid Joe this is an awesome explanation. I'm on the fence about voiding my warranty never have I seen such a detailed explanation without any animosity or being rude. I love Xda.
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r_diaz13 said:
I gotta say @kid Joe this is an awesome explanation. I'm on the fence about voiding my warranty never have I seen such a detailed explanation without any animosity or being rude. I love Xda.
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Agree completely. I was about to comment the same. Great response.
Could someone please help me to Root my Moto X?
It is XT 1052 and bought in Germany
Thanks and regards
Sanjay
Can you unlock your bootloader, or not? And what android version is on your phone?
Check Moto's web site -> https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth to see if your phone is eligible to request a bootloader unlock code from them. It would be free if your phone is eligible. Keep in mind that once the request for an unlock code is fulfilled, if your phone is not a developer edition, your warranty is voided.
That being said, since this popped up -> China Middleman Back?? you might have a 3rd party option available to get bootloader unlock codes if your device isn't eligible to get one from Moto. You will have to pay for this. And this likely also voids the warranty.
Once your bootloader is unlocked, you can root via -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/instructions-unlocking-rooting-dev-ed-t2649738
If you can't or won't unlock your bootloader, then you can't root and disable write protection once 4.4.2 is on your phone.
If you have 4.4 or lower on your phone, you can use the SlapMyMoto/MotoWpNoMo processes to root and disable write protection.
yekollu said:
Could someone please help me to Root my Moto X?
It is XT 1052 and bought in Germany
Thanks and regards
Sanjay
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Yea it can be rooted just follow this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/instructions-unlocking-rooting-dev-ed-t2649738
Good luck:good:
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Мне нужно, рутировать мой motorola Moto X!
Just got this phone from my job, had a nexus 5 before. I'm used to wug's nexus root toolkit, something like that would be great. I just need root and a custom recovery. Thanks.
If you have a non-Dev edition, you can't do either. I'm guessing you're on 4.4.2, so you're stuck.
And if you need a toolkit to root a Nexus phone, you should just buy an iPhone.
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imnuts said:
If you have a non-Dev edition, you can't do either. I'm guessing you're on 4.4.2, so you're stuck.
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you are correct.. KX120.16-1.25.2 is definitely 4.4.2 on Verizon.
@patass imnuts is correct. Unless you have the Dev Edition, once 4.4.2 is on your phone, your stuck. (components that get upgraded in 4.4.2 prevent downgrading, and/or cause issues resulting in bricking or future bricking of the phone.) The 4.4.2 upgrade patches the exploits used by the rooting and write protection disable processes.
There is the Chinese Website/Middle man option, but it voids your warranty.
Tell your job to get you a developer edition. Tell them that it's safer and you want to ensure their data is protected. Then unlock and root that bad boy...
It's what I'd do.
patass said:
Just got this phone from my job, ...... I just need root and a custom recovery. Thanks.
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So your job lets you run with a rooted phone?
Most companies I've supported BLOCK rooted devices.
Is there any way to root the Moto X 2014 pure edition without unlocking the bootloader? I really want to keep my warranty on my device
jrdnkasparek said:
Is there any way to root the Moto X 2014 pure edition without unlocking the bootloader? I really want to keep my warranty on my device
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Not sure if that is possible. But just as important of a question is: Will my warranty be voided on a Pure Edition if I unlock the bootloader?
I have seen posts of people who had no warranty issues with a PE and unlocked bootloader, but nothing official.