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Hi guys,
I just want to ask if it is possible to flash any 4.2.2 Rom over a 4.3 one without changing the Bootloader or Modem (as far as I know kernel there are no other things updated in 4.3 except some features in stock Rom and kernel). I'm sorry if there is a thread like this one out there but I couldn't find it on my phone app
Thanks in advance for your time and help
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Now why would you do that? It's like installing windows ME over Windows 7
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It's because I like to have all the possibilities to personalise nz phone, and Roms like MIUI won't get 4.3 support in the next time it's just my opinion
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4.3's stock kernel sucks hard. I've experienced "unexpectedly closed" errors with certain apps and the device sometimes reboots itself without apparent reason. Had to flash the latest franco's nightly kernel in order to get this faulty release somewhat stable.
Nice GoinGoogle.
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It is possible with custom recovery, not possible with fastboot without updating the bootloader. You may use any modem. You need 4.3 kernel.
EDIT: my bad, it was other way around. Yes, it is possible.
4.3 stinks like hot garbage. I'm not upgrading, and I'm going to downgrade my new N7 to 4.2.2 if possible. 4.3 is like windows ME.
I still have 4.2.2 on my N4 and have only tried 4.3 on my Kindle Fire. From my experience I have little interest in upgrading my N4 for the time being, since 4.3.x will likely fix all the JSS and JWR issues.
Fatherboard said:
4.3's stock kernel sucks hard. I've experienced "unexpectedly closed" errors with certain apps and the device sometimes reboots itself without apparent reason. Had to flash the latest franco's nightly kernel in order to get this faulty release somewhat stable.
Nice GoinGoogle.
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I think your problem is caused by your usage pattern / apps which are not updated for 4.3, combined with unstable root. Don't blame Google unless you experience the same behaviour on unrooted stock.
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Wrong.
I experienced those crashes while on stock, even with google applications. that's a faulty release, not faulty device nor usage. for god sake, even "settings" menu has "unexpectedly closed" on me once.
Misledz said:
Now why would you do that? It's like installing windows ME over Windows 7
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I think it'd be more like going back to Windows 7 Sp1 from Windows 8
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I have had totally different experience with 4.2.2. To be honest I didn't like it at all. I didn't find it as "rock solid" as many other users here. (I came from Galaxy Nexus. Android 4.2 compared to really rock solid jzo54k 4.1.2 was imo buggy as hell. It didn't bring any performance boost but rather did the opposite: BT, WIFI issues, mem leak etc.) Plus I found this low touch sensitivity extremaly irritating. I use rooted stock 4.3 and so far I haven't noticed any bigger issues. Even if I do I really don't see a point to go back to still buggy 4.2.2. I think my device performs much better on 4.3. Maybe it's just a placebo effect, but it feels snappier and smoother. Just my subjective opinion.
Of course I do understand people that miss their favorite custom roms, whose 4.3-versions are still unavailable.
4.2.2 had and has clearly wifi/bt issues (major data stalls, difficulties in re-enabling bt after 20-30 hours of uptime).
These issues were solved. however, I'd expect 4.3 to be as stable as it can be, especially when it took more than 5 months for its release. Unfortunately, that's not the case. not even close, which is rather embarrassing.
I really was expecting for iOS-like smoothness and stability by now.
Fatherboard said:
4.2.2 had and has clearly wifi/bt issues (major data stalls, difficulties in re-enabling bt after 20-30 hours of uptime).
These issues were solved. however, I'd expect 4.3 to be as stable as it can be, especially when it took more than 5 months for its release. Unfortunately, that's not the case. not even close, which is rather embarrassing.
I really was expecting for iOS-like smoothness and stability by now.
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Maybe that's been your experience but my experience has been the exact opposite. It's made my N4 even more of a pleasure to use. It's smoother, snappier, and battery life is amazing. Mind you, I've never really had any problems with 4.2.2 except maybe GPS locking problems, which 4.3 solved. The only real problem with 4.3 is this whole JWR/JSS nonsense.
Fatherboard said:
4.2.2 had and has clearly wifi/bt issues (major data stalls, difficulties in re-enabling bt after 20-30 hours of uptime).
These issues were solved. however, I'd expect 4.3 to be as stable as it can be, especially when it took more than 5 months for its release. Unfortunately, that's not the case. not even close, which is rather embarrassing.
I really was expecting for iOS-like smoothness and stability by now.
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Not sure what's going on your end but my phone has been rock solid with no FCs at all since upgrading to 4.3 using the factory image (I never go the OTA route)
In case you're both running a stock 4.3 (unrooted), you're more than welcomed to run "angry gran run - running game" by ace viral and watch it boldly & proudly crash. If not on beginning, after few minutes. Just only one example out of many.
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Not sure if this is the right place but here goes.
I am on AOKP milestone 1 might update to milestone 2 soon. But what do I have to keep in mind when making the jump to 4.3? Will I be able to downgrade later without problems? I dont understand the modems and bootloader stuff. Plus if I flash 4.3 I will lose root, so how do I flash 4.3 without loosing root? do I root the phone again after flashing? or is there a shortcut?
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Not sure if this is the right place but here goes.
I am on AOKP milestone 1 might update to milestone 2 soon. But what do I have to keep in mind when making the jump to 4.3? Will I be able to downgrade later without problems? I dont understand the modems and bootloader stuff. Plus if I flash 4.3 I will lose root, so how do I flash 4.3 without loosing root? do I root the phone again after flashing? or is there a shortcut?
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You can flash a 4.3 rom in recovery, but its recommended to flash radio and bootloader in recovery.
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DeepPurple15X said:
Not sure if this is the right place but here goes.
I am on AOKP milestone 1 might update to milestone 2 soon. But what do I have to keep in mind when making the jump to 4.3? Will I be able to downgrade later without problems? I dont understand the modems and bootloader stuff. Plus if I flash 4.3 I will lose root, so how do I flash 4.3 without loosing root? do I root the phone again after flashing? or is there a shortcut?
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Android 4.3 ROMs require radio version .84 (or a hybrid 27/84 or 33/84 radio) and bootloader version makoz20i. As Thibaultvw points out radio version .84 and bootloader version makoz20i are both available as flashable zip files and should both be installed before installing a 4.3 based ROM. In addition, Android 4.3 requires SuperSU version 1.51 for working root privileges.
After upgrading the radio and bootloader for Android 4.3, you can restore or install an Android 4.2.2 ROM without changing the bootloader or radio.
frajobs said:
Hi guys,
I just want to ask if it is possible to flash any 4.2.2 Rom over a 4.3 one without changing the Bootloader or Modem (as far as I know kernel there are no other things updated in 4.3 except some features in stock Rom and kernel). I'm sorry if there is a thread like this one out there but I couldn't find it on my phone app
Thanks in advance for your time and help
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Give it a hard go bud lemme know how it works!
hi when i upgraded my phone too 12.1.A.0266 90% of RAM is in use!!! and seems the phone in critical situation!!! some times i touch and 10 sec delay to respond!!!!
some friend told me downgrade too 4.1.2
some told me root and use tools to custom wipe the ram!!
so best suggestion for me??
reza1011 said:
hi when i upgraded my phone too 12.1.A.0266 90% of RAM is in use!!! and seems the phone in critical situation!!! some times i touch and 10 sec delay to respond!!!!
some friend told me downgrade too 4.1.2
some told me root and use tools to custom wipe the ram!!
so best suggestion for me??
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The latest (12.1.A.1.201) is a little better on ram but still not that good
There is no real way to root except by downgrading to 4.1 then upgrading via CWM
Wiping apps from rom is never a good Idea, tho if u have root u can play around with low memory killers and OOM'S but i suggest u stay away from em if ur a newbie
If you are looking for performance i suggest go back to 4.1
But if u are okay with a little lag, and optimizing the phone, then root and stay on 4.3 (also if u want the UI of 4.3). There are some guides to speed up ur phone on 4.3 i believe
For me i am unrooted on 4.3, but i have disabled heavy ram eating apps like google play services, google play store, maps and etc, still it is no way near what i can get from root
I have told u i believe all ways, it is your choice for what u want now
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Sahaab said:
The latest (12.1.A.1.201) is a little better on ram but still not that good
There is no real way to root except by downgrading to 4.1 then upgrading via CWM
Wiping apps from rom is never a good Idea, tho if u have root u can play around with low memory killers and OOM'S but i suggest u stay away from em if ur a newbie
If you are looking for performance i suggest go back to 4.1
But if u are okay with a little lag, and optimizing the phone, then root and stay on 4.3 (also if u want the UI of 4.3). There are some guides to speed up ur phone on 4.3 i believe
For me i am unrooted on 4.3, but i have disabled heavy ram eating apps like google play services, google play store, maps and etc, still it is no way near what i can get from root
I have told u i believe all ways, it is your choice for what u want now
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so I'm confused but i want to try root it first and then try too fix RAM
this build suggestion method for root is CWM???
Follow my guide about using flashtool. Can be found in General Section or via link below in my signature!
Also this is a question (about downgrading) that has been asked a lot.. Next time search a bit
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so I'm confused but i want to try root it first and then try too fix RAM
this build suggestion method for root is CWM???
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i suggest u too look away from Sony stock.. if u are unlocked try custom rom ... got around like 500mb free ram.. after install apss got like 400+ free... even if yr phone are locked u also try slimROMForLocked but to get those CWM running in locked phone if would be tedious
Hello Danielhariri.. I am also facing ram problem..
Which ROM u are using..
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On existenze ROM ?
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got installation aborted msg while flasing camera fix kernal with latest philz recovery can any one help me with this? I got that file of 6 mb
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got installation aborted msg while flasing
camera fix kernal with latest philz recovery
can any one help me with this.....I got that
file of 6 mb
Try to change the default laucher:
Go to settings/default applications and change home to Touchwiz home.
After change thats easy mode..my still got easy mode..why??
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Touchwiz home.apk is 0 bytes??
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Yes it must habe about 2.2 mb
Why??
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s5 rom to s3
Hy. Y flashed the rom on my i9305 and y had to reflash and then only I made the camera work flashing boefla.ok. but. Screen mirroring doesn't work apps to sd card the same and neither samsung link wont work. Are you trying to fix these? The rom is good. I have no complaints other that sometimes its eating the battery in5 hours. Thank's
S5 Elite for S3 (i9305) problem.
Greetings,
Today I was charging my S3 (i9305) and turned off the power. I later discovered that my phone was still on even though I had turned it off. I found out that when charging my phone with the power off it rebooted my phone. I don't know if it's a problem with the Rom or phone. Help would be appreciated. (I have attached a picture of what my phone gets stuck on before it reboots). Thanks.
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Greetings,
Today I was charging my S3 (i9305) and turned off the power. I later discovered that my phone was still on even though I had turned it off. I found out that when charging my phone with the power off it rebooted my phone. I don't know if it's a problem with the Rom or phone. Help would be appreciated. (I have attached a picture of what my phone gets stuck on before it reboots). Thanks.
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Hi,
Im not sure but maybe this is the old bootloader issue..are you on new or old bootloader? and have you installed agni kernel that comes by default with the rom? cause i thought that the reboot issue only was present in the boeffla kernels for this rom, which i have removed from the rom thread some time ago, because they were not stable.
It is definately not a rom problem, cause im using this rom every day (btw im on new 4.4.4 bootloader) and i didnt had any reboots from the 1st day till this time also not with the 4.3 bootloader, using Agni kernel 4.9 everything works fine, even offline charging works, but from this we already knew that offline charging was working well on new bootloader.
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MaHo_66 said:
Hi,
Im not sure but maybe this is the old bootloader issue..are you on new or old bootloader? and have you installed agni kernel that comes by default with the rom? cause i thought that the reboot issue only was present in the boeffla kernels for this rom, which i have removed from the rom thread some time ago, because they were not stable.
It is definately not a rom problem, cause im using this rom every day (btw im on new 4.4.4 bootloader) and i didnt had any reboots from the 1st day till this time also not with the 4.3 bootloader, using Agni kernel 4.9 everything works fine, even offline charging works, but from this we already knew that offline charging was working well on new bootloader.
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It must be the Bootloader then, since I have already installed Agni v4.9. Would you be able to send me the link to the right Bootloader for the i9305. Thanks Maho.
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It must be the Bootloader then, since I have already installed Agni v4.9. Would you be able to send me the link to the right Bootloader for the i9305. Thanks Maho.
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Well the case is that the bootloader is not something you can find separately and flash it for example like a flashable zip, the only way to update the bootloader is by flashing 4.3 or 4.4.4 official firmware from sammobile.com or any other site where you can download samsung official firmwares, and it has the KNOX feature included which really sucks, therefore these bootloaders are also called KNOX bootloader. You can check what bootloader you have at the moment by booting into downloadmode and in left upper corner of the downloadmode screen if there is a line saying ´´KNOX WARRANTY VOID´´ means you already have the new knox bootloader and since the new Android 4.4.4 now there is also a line in blue color saying ´´SECURE DOWNLOAD : ENABLED'' which is the case with me.
If you like to update the bootloader you can do that, in my signature there is a link to ODIN guide, also there is a link in the guide for if you want to learn more about knox bootloader before you do anything, cause when you flash 4.3 or 4.4.4 official firmware the knox bootloader will remain forever with the device, its not something you can delete like an .apk file, the bootloader is part of the device structure.
This knox bootloader seems to cause problems with installing custom roms or applying root etc. (not for everyone though) but im now KNOXED for some time and never had actually any kind of problem installing custom roms or rooting etc. besides that i think that our i9305 is now getting old and 4.4.4 is probably the last official update to come from Samsung, so it doesnt really matter to be knoxed or not knoxed at this time IMHO and most of the people dont care anymore about warranty being void, but if you like to avoid such small issues like device rebooting by itself or any other issue caused by the old bootloader with 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 custom roms, i recommend everyone to update the bootloader if you plan to run 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 custom roms as daily driver.
If you are still not sure about this or you dont understand something, you can always look for more info in the general Q&A thread or just do some research on the internet.
Cheers
Thank you
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Well the case is that the bootloader is not something you can find separately and flash it for example like a flashable zip, the only way to update the bootloader is by flashing 4.3 or 4.4.4 official firmware from sammobile.com or any other site where you can download samsung official firmwares, and it has the KNOX feature included which really sucks, therefore these bootloaders are also called KNOX bootloader. You can check what bootloader you have at the moment by booting into downloadmode and in left upper corner of the downloadmode screen if there is a line saying ´´KNOX WARRANTY VOID´´ means you already have the new knox bootloader and since the new Android 4.4.4 now there is also a line in blue color saying ´´SECURE DOWNLOAD : ENABLED'' which is the case with me.
If you like to update the bootloader you can do that, in my signature there is a link to ODIN guide, also there is a link in the guide for if you want to learn more about knox bootloader before you do anything, cause when you flash 4.3 or 4.4.4 official firmware the knox bootloader will remain forever with the device, its not something you can delete like an .apk file, the bootloader is part of the device structure.
This knox bootloader seems to cause problems with installing custom roms or applying root etc. (not for everyone though) but im now KNOXED for some time and never had actually any kind of problem installing custom roms or rooting etc. besides that i think that our i9305 is now getting old and 4.4.4 is probably the last official update to come from Samsung, so it doesnt really matter to be knoxed or not knoxed at this time IMHO and most of the people dont care anymore about warranty being void, but if you like to avoid such small issues like device rebooting by itself or any other issue caused by the old bootloader with 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 custom roms, i recommend everyone to update the bootloader if you plan to run 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 custom roms as daily driver.
If you are still not sure about this or you dont understand something, you can always look for more info in the general Q&A thread or just do some research on the internet.
Cheers
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Thanks heaps for the long reply and help Maho. I used Odin to get bootloader 4.4.4 from Sammobile and now my phone stays off while charging. Loving your work and this rom! (Sorry for the late reply).
wow I Need it, thanks you !
Audio Skipping....
Hi Maho_66
I've flashed your rom 2 days ago and everything working fine. you did brilliant work to bring some life to our i9305. keep it up.
i am facing 2 problems. 1st is wifi direct is not working. it searches the other device and that's it. nothing else.
2nd problem is audio skipping while playing music.
Any Solution Please.
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Hi Maho_66
I've flashed your rom 2 days ago and everything working fine. you did brilliant work to bring some life to our i9305. keep it up.
i am facing 2 problems. 1st is wifi direct is not working. it searches the other device and that's it. nothing else.
2nd problem is audio skipping while playing music.
Any Solution Please.
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Hey man sorry for late reply.
I think wifi direct isnt working then, for the audio skipping i think its related to your kernel settings, try other governors for example. I dont have this issue, music playing fine with me.
Air Navigation does not work. Sry bad english
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Hey man sorry for late reply.
I think wifi direct isnt working then, for the audio skipping i think its related to your kernel settings, try other governors for example. I dont have this issue, music playing fine with me.
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Thank you for your reply,,,,, Yes you are right, Audio issue is related with kernel and i've just Flash Agni kernel and everything is fine now.
Hands-free mode is muted! Fix?
Hello!
In hands-free mode is muted, MIC does not work! Some correction?
Tested with two kernels with the same problem:
PSN_AGNi_pureSTOCK-v4.6_Ported-4.4.2__InsecureADB_Fixed-djb77.zip
PSN_AGNi_pureSTOCK-v4.9_Ported-4.4.2_I9305_AROMA.zip
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Thanks !!! Work Perfect!!!!!!!!
Superb Work
Stock Wallpaper Location_)@!!>? PLz
Hi
i can downgrade my note to kitkat from lollipop without any problems?
I made root in lollipop...
Thanks
Yes, just have to find your phones kk firmware and flash through Odin.
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Ok
what the best stock version of kitkat to get the best battery life?
I install the israeli version and i get same battery life like lollipop
thanks
I would highly recommending installing the stock version of KitKat that is released for your country.
Yes, i've just done this myself. I got the phone last week, and in amongst all the other 9 million pop-ups that Samsung provide, I accidently pressed yes to upgrade to lollipop.
I ran it for a day and the lag was terrible, so I have now gone back to KitKat. As above, I just went for stock for my country. It seems a lot better now. Once they release another lollipop patch i'll update. It's a shame, as I still think my htc one m8 is slightly faster. It feels more responsive. Anyway, thats off topic.
As above, just use Odin. I'm new to modding Samsung devices really, but managed it easy enough following the various guides around.
Did you guys have to factory reset your device after the downgrade?
If so, does the Kies application backup function safe the application data (logged in accounts, safegames, application settings etc.) too?
So i have an LG L90 which i updated via phone OTA update to android 5.0.2 official lollipop,but i encountered an unusual issue.
The phone worked fine for 2-3 days than all apps in the apss>ram usage were restarting,so that caused the phone to lag,to load UI over and over again,programs also...this only was solved with restart,and that would give it again 2-3 lag-free days
So i downgraded it back to kitkat,and it is fine.
After that i rooted it using root scirpt for G3,but it is working for L90 also.
Now i am considering to try to update it once more to LP but this time via pc,maybe that will solve the problem ?
Now the question is
1. Will i be able to update it via pc,because of root...i don't want to brick it
2. Does someone know what was the problem first time with lollipop,and will the pc update method solve that
Thanks in advance
(sorry for typo mistakes if there are any)
Anyone knows the problem,or has something to suggest
btw phone model is D405N
Stock lollipop on this phone is known to have that problems.
I wouldn't recommend the upgrade to lollipop at all.. You could try to install CM custom roms, they work better than stock.
What I've done trying to minimize this:
1. Make UI faster speeding up animations
2. Avoid apps that run in the background all the time (background services that stay open always) like whatsapp and facebook
3. Modified Low Memory Kill limits a bit.
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jesuita said:
Stock lollipop on this phone is known to have that problems.
I wouldn't recommend the upgrade to lollipop at all.. You could try to install CM custom roms, they work better than stock.
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i was thinking about it,but i don't really understand how to unlock bootloader,i've read the guide but i'm still a bit scared,i dont want to hard brick it
if there is another way to unlock it,some kind of tool or something,that would be great
lfom said:
What I've done trying to minimize this:
1. Make UI faster speeding up animations
2. Avoid apps that run in the background all the time (background services that stay open always) like whatsapp and facebook
3. Modified Low Memory Kill limits a bit.
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Thank you for the help,if i decide to update it i will do this too