Hi
i can downgrade my note to kitkat from lollipop without any problems?
I made root in lollipop...
Thanks
Yes, just have to find your phones kk firmware and flash through Odin.
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Ok
what the best stock version of kitkat to get the best battery life?
I install the israeli version and i get same battery life like lollipop
thanks
I would highly recommending installing the stock version of KitKat that is released for your country.
Yes, i've just done this myself. I got the phone last week, and in amongst all the other 9 million pop-ups that Samsung provide, I accidently pressed yes to upgrade to lollipop.
I ran it for a day and the lag was terrible, so I have now gone back to KitKat. As above, I just went for stock for my country. It seems a lot better now. Once they release another lollipop patch i'll update. It's a shame, as I still think my htc one m8 is slightly faster. It feels more responsive. Anyway, thats off topic.
As above, just use Odin. I'm new to modding Samsung devices really, but managed it easy enough following the various guides around.
Did you guys have to factory reset your device after the downgrade?
If so, does the Kies application backup function safe the application data (logged in accounts, safegames, application settings etc.) too?
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I have tried my best to search the forums for this so if I missed it being mentioned somewhere I do apologize. I'm trying to be extra careful because the only reason I even have a Bionic is because my friend gave me her used one after my Rezound died and I don't want to lose another phone. Basically, when she had it she updated it to ICS using a leaked ota because of data connection issues. It fixed the issues, but now the phone can't be updated using the official JB OTA. My question is can the ota be flashed somehow. I don't need the phone to be rooted (my Rezound was so if I absolutely have to I can do it), I would prefer just to be on stock 4.1.2. I'm including a screen shot so everyone can see what version I am running. I've only had the phone a day so I appreciate the info. I'm not a develeoper, but I can certainly flash ROM's no problem.
Thanks in advance everyone!
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Hi guys,
I just want to ask if it is possible to flash any 4.2.2 Rom over a 4.3 one without changing the Bootloader or Modem (as far as I know kernel there are no other things updated in 4.3 except some features in stock Rom and kernel). I'm sorry if there is a thread like this one out there but I couldn't find it on my phone app
Thanks in advance for your time and help
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Now why would you do that? It's like installing windows ME over Windows 7
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It's because I like to have all the possibilities to personalise nz phone, and Roms like MIUI won't get 4.3 support in the next time it's just my opinion
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4.3's stock kernel sucks hard. I've experienced "unexpectedly closed" errors with certain apps and the device sometimes reboots itself without apparent reason. Had to flash the latest franco's nightly kernel in order to get this faulty release somewhat stable.
Nice GoinGoogle.
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It is possible with custom recovery, not possible with fastboot without updating the bootloader. You may use any modem. You need 4.3 kernel.
EDIT: my bad, it was other way around. Yes, it is possible.
4.3 stinks like hot garbage. I'm not upgrading, and I'm going to downgrade my new N7 to 4.2.2 if possible. 4.3 is like windows ME.
I still have 4.2.2 on my N4 and have only tried 4.3 on my Kindle Fire. From my experience I have little interest in upgrading my N4 for the time being, since 4.3.x will likely fix all the JSS and JWR issues.
Fatherboard said:
4.3's stock kernel sucks hard. I've experienced "unexpectedly closed" errors with certain apps and the device sometimes reboots itself without apparent reason. Had to flash the latest franco's nightly kernel in order to get this faulty release somewhat stable.
Nice GoinGoogle.
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I think your problem is caused by your usage pattern / apps which are not updated for 4.3, combined with unstable root. Don't blame Google unless you experience the same behaviour on unrooted stock.
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Wrong.
I experienced those crashes while on stock, even with google applications. that's a faulty release, not faulty device nor usage. for god sake, even "settings" menu has "unexpectedly closed" on me once.
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Now why would you do that? It's like installing windows ME over Windows 7
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I think it'd be more like going back to Windows 7 Sp1 from Windows 8
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I have had totally different experience with 4.2.2. To be honest I didn't like it at all. I didn't find it as "rock solid" as many other users here. (I came from Galaxy Nexus. Android 4.2 compared to really rock solid jzo54k 4.1.2 was imo buggy as hell. It didn't bring any performance boost but rather did the opposite: BT, WIFI issues, mem leak etc.) Plus I found this low touch sensitivity extremaly irritating. I use rooted stock 4.3 and so far I haven't noticed any bigger issues. Even if I do I really don't see a point to go back to still buggy 4.2.2. I think my device performs much better on 4.3. Maybe it's just a placebo effect, but it feels snappier and smoother. Just my subjective opinion.
Of course I do understand people that miss their favorite custom roms, whose 4.3-versions are still unavailable.
4.2.2 had and has clearly wifi/bt issues (major data stalls, difficulties in re-enabling bt after 20-30 hours of uptime).
These issues were solved. however, I'd expect 4.3 to be as stable as it can be, especially when it took more than 5 months for its release. Unfortunately, that's not the case. not even close, which is rather embarrassing.
I really was expecting for iOS-like smoothness and stability by now.
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4.2.2 had and has clearly wifi/bt issues (major data stalls, difficulties in re-enabling bt after 20-30 hours of uptime).
These issues were solved. however, I'd expect 4.3 to be as stable as it can be, especially when it took more than 5 months for its release. Unfortunately, that's not the case. not even close, which is rather embarrassing.
I really was expecting for iOS-like smoothness and stability by now.
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Maybe that's been your experience but my experience has been the exact opposite. It's made my N4 even more of a pleasure to use. It's smoother, snappier, and battery life is amazing. Mind you, I've never really had any problems with 4.2.2 except maybe GPS locking problems, which 4.3 solved. The only real problem with 4.3 is this whole JWR/JSS nonsense.
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4.2.2 had and has clearly wifi/bt issues (major data stalls, difficulties in re-enabling bt after 20-30 hours of uptime).
These issues were solved. however, I'd expect 4.3 to be as stable as it can be, especially when it took more than 5 months for its release. Unfortunately, that's not the case. not even close, which is rather embarrassing.
I really was expecting for iOS-like smoothness and stability by now.
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Not sure what's going on your end but my phone has been rock solid with no FCs at all since upgrading to 4.3 using the factory image (I never go the OTA route)
In case you're both running a stock 4.3 (unrooted), you're more than welcomed to run "angry gran run - running game" by ace viral and watch it boldly & proudly crash. If not on beginning, after few minutes. Just only one example out of many.
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I am on AOKP milestone 1 might update to milestone 2 soon. But what do I have to keep in mind when making the jump to 4.3? Will I be able to downgrade later without problems? I dont understand the modems and bootloader stuff. Plus if I flash 4.3 I will lose root, so how do I flash 4.3 without loosing root? do I root the phone again after flashing? or is there a shortcut?
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Not sure if this is the right place but here goes.
I am on AOKP milestone 1 might update to milestone 2 soon. But what do I have to keep in mind when making the jump to 4.3? Will I be able to downgrade later without problems? I dont understand the modems and bootloader stuff. Plus if I flash 4.3 I will lose root, so how do I flash 4.3 without loosing root? do I root the phone again after flashing? or is there a shortcut?
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You can flash a 4.3 rom in recovery, but its recommended to flash radio and bootloader in recovery.
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DeepPurple15X said:
Not sure if this is the right place but here goes.
I am on AOKP milestone 1 might update to milestone 2 soon. But what do I have to keep in mind when making the jump to 4.3? Will I be able to downgrade later without problems? I dont understand the modems and bootloader stuff. Plus if I flash 4.3 I will lose root, so how do I flash 4.3 without loosing root? do I root the phone again after flashing? or is there a shortcut?
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Android 4.3 ROMs require radio version .84 (or a hybrid 27/84 or 33/84 radio) and bootloader version makoz20i. As Thibaultvw points out radio version .84 and bootloader version makoz20i are both available as flashable zip files and should both be installed before installing a 4.3 based ROM. In addition, Android 4.3 requires SuperSU version 1.51 for working root privileges.
After upgrading the radio and bootloader for Android 4.3, you can restore or install an Android 4.2.2 ROM without changing the bootloader or radio.
frajobs said:
Hi guys,
I just want to ask if it is possible to flash any 4.2.2 Rom over a 4.3 one without changing the Bootloader or Modem (as far as I know kernel there are no other things updated in 4.3 except some features in stock Rom and kernel). I'm sorry if there is a thread like this one out there but I couldn't find it on my phone app
Thanks in advance for your time and help
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Give it a hard go bud lemme know how it works!
Hi, after updated my Note 3 to 4.4.2, my Gear Manager is unstable, it hangs when I'm trying to enter settings or contacts, screen goes black and then i get a FC.
I have searched (like always) but haven't found any solution.
I have tried everything (clear data app, uninstalled GM, wipe my both Gears, nothing changed)
I have made a clean flash of KK on my Note 3.
I have also downgraded GM to 1.5 from 1.6...
I have no more idea of what I can do now.
Fortunately, both Gears works as they should but this GM issues drive me crazy.
Gears are running last ML1 (stock, unroot)
Any help/advice is welcome.
Cheers, Ros
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I have the same problem. I remember reading somewhere that you need to have 1.6 for it to work with Kitkat, but it constantly crashes when entering settings. However i'm not sure if 1.6 has been officially released yet? I'm pretty sure it wasn't when i installed it 2 days ago, so hopefully it will have been fixed when it's hopefully very soon officially released, can't imagine Samsung officially releasing obviously broken software.
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I have the same problem. I remember reading somewhere that you need to have 1.6 for it to work with Kitkat, but it constantly crashes when entering settings. However i'm not sure if 1.6 has been officially released yet? I'm pretty sure it wasn't when i installed it 2 days ago, so hopefully it will have been fixed when it's hopefully very soon officially released, can't imagine Samsung officially releasing obviously broken software.
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i cannot view exchange mails anymore on the device since upgrade to kit kat and new GM
Sounds like it is best to either use old versions, or wait for official. 1.6 and ml1 are leaks
I have the same problem..what I do uninstall gm 1.6..download gm 1.5 at samsung store..reset the gear n not restoring the gear bakup..I have to reset it twice n reboot the phone then it all ok now..im using official poland KK with null 19 (ml1) on gear..
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Stick to official 1.5 version, it is still solid stable, just a bit slow when connecting, wait Samsung release official 1.6, I believe they is some issue on it, that why still not yet get release. Current appear 1.6 is leak version.
By the way I am under MK7 official release for my GEAR ROM, not the leak ML21 as well.
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Stick to official 1.5 version, it is still solid stable, just a bit slow when connecting, wait Samsung release official 1.6, I believe they is some issue on it, that why still not yet get release. Current appear 1.6 is leak version.
By the way I am under MK7 official release for my GEAR ROM, not the leak ML21 as well.
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Having seen the problems that KK has brought with it, there is no way I'm letting that software anywhere near my phone or gear. I realise there are those of you that simply MUST HAVE the latest updates, even before they are tested properly, but this update IS NOT READY yet. The differences between JB4.3 and KK 4.4 are so minimal, its just not worth the risk or download at this time. As the old saying goes...."if it ain't Broke........"!!!
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Having seen the problems that KK has brought with it, there is no way I'm letting that software anywhere near my phone or gear. I realise there are those of you that simply MUST HAVE the latest updates, even before they are tested properly, but this update IS NOT READY yet. The differences between JB4.3 and KK 4.4 are so minimal, its just not worth the risk or download at this time. As the old saying goes...."if it ain't Broke........"!!!
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I never regret updates to KitKat and it is official, it is the best ROM so far I use in Note 3. The smoothness is no way any 4.3 ROM can compare. Also this KitKat ROM is solid stable. I don't have GEAR connection or FC issue, if you look against all facing problem is cause of using leak ML1 GEAR ROM + Leak Gear Manager 1.6
The only issue at KitKat is SD card writable issue which can be simply fix and that actually not really Samsung problem but instead KitKat change the requirement, any apps that had that issue just need the dev updates it to fulfill KitKat requirement.
The counterfeit S View cover not working is not a bugs but obvious Samsung did to stop the counterfeit.
Hello Xda
Recently i have got Xperia z1 and it's really amzing and fast for me but there are some few question and problems i cant find solution.
1. My current android version is 4.3 i was thinking for lolipop and after searching i have found that Lolipop is a pathetic release for Z1, so i want to know that should i stay on 4.3 or downgrade to 4.2.2 or can i upgrade to kitkat ?? is it stable or worth upgrading.
2. When i turn on or off O2 logo came on my screen and some o2 apps installed. Well in my country if there is any kind of logo in mobile firmware its value decrease peoples think its a fake so is there any chance or way to remove this ? I'm familiar with rooting and have done a lot of on Nexus, Xperia P, S, Galaxy 1-2 etc etc.
Thanks in advance.
bump! still no reply
for the z1 there is both kitkat and lollipop update. I'd say update it, i like the update. If you're not really sure then first find the ftf file of the 4.3 version in case you'll want to downgrade back
is lolipop stable ??? as i visited a lot of thread and peoples are complaining about battery drain heatup issue and some features not working like xLoud xReality etc etc
Ranker said:
is lolipop stable ??? as i visited a lot of thread and peoples are complaining about battery drain heatup issue and some features not working like xLoud xReality etc etc
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If you want better battery life and dont care about the new Lollipop I suggest you update to 4.4.4 and stick with it until some "major updates" solve the heating issue and battery drain and slow charging of the lollipop version cause its really annoying, at least for me because i'm using my phone almost 7,8 hours a day using 3G,wifi,music player,and calling and Lollipop simply doesnt work for me because I have to constantly put my phone on charge, I mean its ridiculous when my phone discharge faster than its charge!
But on kitkat its almost on peak of the performance (considering the battery life)
You may update to 5 if youre not heavily using the phone but otherwise at present,the best choice is 4.4.4 (btw I'm using iHackers 6.2 with trinity kernel)
For second part you may flash any unbranded ftf rom so there is no more carrier logo
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If you want better battery life and dont care about the new Lollipop I suggest you update to 4.4.4 and stick with it until some "major updates" solve the heating issue and battery drain and slow charging of the lollipop version cause its really annoying, at least for me because i'm using my phone almost 7,8 hours a day using 3G,wifi,music player,and calling and Lollipop simply doesnt work for me because I have to constantly put my phone on charge, I mean its ridiculous when my phone discharge faster than its charge!
But on kitkat its almost on peak of the performance (considering the battery life)
You may update to 5 if youre not heavily using the phone but otherwise at present,the best choice is 4.4.4 (btw I'm using iHackers 6.2 with trinity kernel)
For second part you may flash any unbranded ftf rom so there is no more carrier logo
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did you have those problems on stock unrooted lollipop from your country? cause i had battery drain only on prerooted while on stock "update with pc companion" the battery life was as kitkat for me
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did you have those problems on stock unrooted lollipop from your country? cause i had battery drain only on prerooted while on stock "update with pc companion" the battery life was as kitkat for me
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No I didn't try any prerooted rom just flashed stock ftf
Some guya suggest using phone for 2,3 days will improve battery life
I use it for 1 week even without root (pure stock) and no improve so far! So tail between legs I came back to KK!!
I can confirm that battery leak is only in "screen on"
Funny part is that stock LP use same battery as CM12 and for me there is no reason to choose stock over CM so I just got back to my previous combination!! using iHackers 6.2 alongside CM12 (Multirom)
Btw thanks fo reply bro
I've been running a towelrooted NC2 note 3 for what seems like forever now. I'm currently seeing that OC2 has a stagefright patch and seems like a solid reason to finally update.
What would be your arguments for or against upgrading to OC2?
Right now my phone runs great and I've got it working to where I'm getting fantastic battery life. (GPS working, No wifi issues over AC, etc.)
1. Is safestrapping to OC2 standard procedure to keep root?
2. I've heard there are issues with Xposed? Can anyone confirm or offer some information regarding this?
The only root apps I use anymore are:
Titanium Backup Pro
Amplify
AdAway
YouTube AdAway
BootManager
Complete Action Plus
Xposed Additions
Xprivacy
I believe all but Titanium Backup Pro are based on Xposed Framework, so this is obviously a concern.
Your opinions are appreciated.
If you're looking to upgrade, might as well upgrade to a s6 (5.0.2) port in the dev section.
I have used all of the same apps/modules, minus xPrivacy, in the past on LP/KK. You can certainly install xposed on 5.0+, but there are several issues that arise with it. Mainly, the xposed framework itself requires a few workarounds/compromises with Samsung's ART, which impact performance/endurance.
With the s6 port, you get a basic privacy/permission app (think built-in App Ops), full theme support, ART, etc.. I've had no need for Amplify/Greenify/etc. since updating.
All in all, LP is quite a bit faster than KK, way more secure, & far more functional of a ROM, imo. Make a backup in TWRP, flash LP, and see which you like. :good:
EDIT: You'll be giving up xposed (most likely) by moving to LP. Which may be a good thing, in the long run.
Thanks for the input. I will give your s6 ROM a shot and see how I like it. I've read about, but not in detail, that xposed caused some security issues of its own before. I still wonder just how severe a threat those are in relation to others.
Are there debloat scripts available or needed for the s6 ROMs? I've always done them one by one myself, but I'd like to see if they might save me a lot of time.
(Arguments about hurting website revenue aside) is there a non xposed based ad blocking for 5.02? Personally, I just can't stand ads on my mobile device at all. I've never heard a lot about malicious ad code hitting android users much, but better safe than sorry.
What about firewall capabilities in 5?
Still it's too bad their isn't a ROM that would be a distribution focused on reliability and security.
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(Arguments about hurting website revenue aside) is there a non xposed based ad blocking for 5.02? Personally, I just can't stand ads on my mobile device at all. I've never heard a lot about malicious ad code hitting android users much, but better safe than sorry.
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AdAway Version 3.1 https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.adaway I just download and install the apk. It needs root permission to run.
PatrickF22 said:
I've been running a towelrooted NC2 note 3 for what seems like forever now. I'm currently seeing that OC2 has a stagefright patch and seems like a solid reason to finally update.
What would be your arguments for or against upgrading to OC2?
Right now my phone runs great and I've got it working to where I'm getting fantastic battery life. (GPS working, No wifi issues over AC, etc.)
1. Is safestrapping to OC2 standard procedure to keep root?
2. I've heard there are issues with Xposed? Can anyone confirm or offer some information regarding this?
The only root apps I use anymore are:
Titanium Backup Pro
Amplify
AdAway
YouTube AdAway
BootManager
Complete Action Plus
Xposed Additions
Xprivacy
I believe all but Titanium Backup Pro are based on Xposed Framework, so this is obviously a concern.
Your opinions are appreciated.
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Same boat, rooted stock nc2 with xposed and moto tether working just fine. Everything works, screen mirror, occasional GPS hiccup but not sure it's because of the magnetic mount. After two days and reading 100+ pages, I decided to stay on NC2. Too many FCs and fixes and patches.
Did you update? Is it stable? Does everything work? Tether, screen mirror, GPS?
COMPLETELY agree!!!
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Same boat, rooted stock nc2 with xposed and moto tether working just fine. Everything works, screen mirror, occasional GPS hiccup but not sure it's because of the magnetic mount. After two days and reading 100+ pages, I decided to stay on NC2. Too many FCs and fixes and patches.
Did you update? Is it stable? Does everything work? Tether, screen mirror, GPS?
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I've gone back to OC2, numerous times...and go right back to NC2. Hiccups, lag, straight up freezing...and just an overall terrible experience versus JellyBean or KitKat. App history management is subpar, uses way too much memory...too much white which leads to more battery drain. OC2 is a fail, in my book. Just my two cents.
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I've gone back to OC2, numerous times...and go right back to NC2. Hiccups, lag, straight up freezing...and just an overall terrible experience versus JellyBean or KitKat. App history management is subpar, uses way too much memory...too much white which leads to more battery drain. OC2 is a fail, in my book. Just my two cents.
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Thanks for the feedback. Been switching between the S5 on 5.1 and the Note 3 on 4.4.2. S5 is surprising smooth on 5.1. Great battery life most of the time. Note 3 is stable except for the latest Google maps update which crashes occasionally.
PatrickF22 said:
I've been running a towelrooted NC2 note 3 for what seems like forever now. I'm currently seeing that OC2 has a stagefright patch and seems like a solid reason to finally update.
What would be your arguments for or against upgrading to OC2?
Right now my phone runs great and I've got it working to where I'm getting fantastic battery life. (GPS working, No wifi issues over AC, etc.)
1. Is safestrapping to OC2 standard procedure to keep root?
2. I've heard there are issues with Xposed? Can anyone confirm or offer some information regarding this?
The only root apps I use anymore are:
Titanium Backup Pro
Amplify
AdAway
YouTube AdAway
BootManager
Complete Action Plus
Xposed Additions
Xprivacy
I believe all but Titanium Backup Pro are based on Xposed Framework, so this is obviously a concern.
Your opinions are appreciated.
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As far as I understand OC2 ruins the ability to root or anything.. I upgraded to OC2 not knowing i can't do anything now.. can't root or anything all root ODIN's fail... Tried ODIN all in one NC2 now it's stuck on ATT logo never loads in so OC2 will ruin your day and I can't even use my phone right now.. I absolutely HATE SAMSUNG since I bought this Note 3.. I hate the stock OS.. I want cyanogenmod.. So I guess now I'll need to odin oc2 again and stick with it forever or until someone figures out how to root OC2... NC2 is a downgrade from OC2 .. so that's not possible to downgrade everything breaks with a downgrade.. I might need to do it all over again now of the CSC etc.. I did all in one to NC2
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As far as I understand OC2 ruins the ability to root or anything.. I upgraded to OC2 not knowing i can't do anything now.. can't root or anything all root ODIN's fail... Tried ODIN all in one NC2 now it's stuck on ATT logo never loads in so OC2 will ruin your day and I can't even use my phone right now.. I absolutely HATE SAMSUNG since I bought this Note 3.. I hate the stock OS.. I want cyanogenmod.. So I guess now I'll need to odin oc2 again and stick with it forever or until someone figures out how to root OC2... NC2 is a downgrade from OC2 .. so that's not possible to downgrade everything breaks with a downgrade.. I might need to do it all over again now of the CSC etc.. I did all in one to NC2
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There's a rooted OC2 Stock ROM available here though: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3185574
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There's a rooted OC2 Stock ROM available here though: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3185574
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Thanks, I'd actually prefer to stick with NC2 but I'm having a hard time finding Kat Xtreme v2.3 as the links are dead... It's an amazing 533MB rom .zip which is perfect but I just can't find it anywhere..
http://www.dynamicrom.com/
http://www.dynamicrom.com/index.php/downloads/category/9-dkxtreme
09/11/2014 Dynamic Kat Xtreme 2.3 : http://www.dynamicrom.com/index.php/downloads/send/9-dkxtreme/26-dynamic-kat-xtreme